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@Raccoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3049925#Comment_3049925
I'm down for any new character so long as their lore is decent/design is nice.
More representation is never a bad thing so long as it is handled well/tastefully, imo.
oh absolutely, youre talking to me ofc i want good and well-made representation. its been like half of my comments for the past year and a half
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@JeanCharpentier said:
Anyway guys you are talking about the future of the game. I won't debate on the need to add different characters etc...
Let's talk seriously, do you really think DbD will survive the next update ? Have you seen the state of the game ? It is awfull, the fun was already hard to find nowadays but after the update it will be over for good.
Most of us won't play anymore. Personally, today i cannot play more than 3 or 4 games straight as the game design is trash, the net code is the worst in the video game history (by a large margin) and the community is even worst (tunnel, camp, taunting etc.. well you know it).
The toxicity will rise to another level with the next update...
well that's one way to drag the thread instantly back off topic again.
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3050081#Comment_3050081
Lesbian is a woman who likes other women. He/him are pronouns used for people who identify as man.
Not necessarily. Pronouns are just what you feel most comfortable with being referred to as, while gender identity can be separated from that. One of my friends identifies as a (cis) man but uses she/her pronouns.
Lesbian (according to one of my lesbian friends when asked about this) is a non-man loving another non-man. If someone identifies as a women but feels most comfortable using he/him then they're still a lesbian, as they're a non-man loving another non-man.
(I'm sorry Mandy, but this comment was written before your intervention and I feel like I need to get it out there. This'll be the last from me on this specific topic on this thread).
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@malloymk said:
I just want to see the dog's tail wag while it opens a chest.
You know those dogs would spend all game chewing on those totems.
Omg leaked 6.2.0 patch notes:
New perk type: Companions
Companion perks spawn an AI-controlled NPC into the trial, and are available for both survivors and killers. These NPCs will do different effects depending on which companion spawns in. Companions cannot be killed, however can be temporarily disabled by a variety of means, including stunning them with a pallet or trapping them inside a conveniently-spawning box summoned by The Entity. Their respective players can free their companions, or they will eventually break free in-time.
Each companion has a different movement speed and time it takes to break free, depending upon their effects, so be sure to read carefully to know which companions are best for you.
Along with being included within the next Chapter's character perks, we are adding in 2 new generic perks, one for each side, to ensure all players can use these new perks. These are:
companion: Dog
A Dog will spawn within the trial. They will navigate through the trial to find Dull Totems, Boon Totems, and Hex Totems. Once a Totem has been found, the Dog will run back to the owner and bark to get their attention, before running back to the Totem. This will repeat until the Totem is cleansed.
While within 24, of the Dog, gain a 10/15%/20% increase to Totem cleansing speeds.
Once all 5 Totems have been cleansed, the Dog will remain on the map to happily bark at you.
companion: bats
A swarm of Bats will spawn within the Trial. These bats will navigate through the Trial Grounds until they find a Survivor, at which point they will begin to "swarm" them. While being swarmed, a survivor is unable to complete any conspicuous action. Swarming Bats can be dismissed by either entering a locker or manually waving them away, while travelling bats can be dismissed by stunning or blinding them by any means.
Bats will re-enter the Trial Grounds after a total of 40/35/30 seconds has passed.
After swarming a survivor for at least 45 seconds, the aura of this survivor is revealed to the killer until the bats are dismissed.
[these were not actually leaked, i made them up]
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@malloymk said:
I'm okay with it, but I'd prefer an 80 pound golden doodle to be the next survivor. This game needs a dog.
Okay okay hear me out here
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@TheMadCat said:
I'll be glad for the next original Survivor to be non-binary. I mean, if it helps for representation, then yes, I'll be happy for the ones who wants to play with them because they have something in common.
I like to play characters who have something in common with me, like Kate has tattoos, Felix is introvert, Mikaela writes stories...
Some people don't care, and I think that if you don't care, you shouldn't be against. And if you're against... Don't talk to me. I'm no part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I'm for all kind of representation for people who want/need it.
We're all different, so that's good to have different Survivors. It's only a video game but for some, and I'm part of these some, it's important to create a bond with their virtual characters.
Some people don't care, and I think that if you don't care, you shouldn't be against
Literally this.
If you don't care about something then by definition you do not have an opinion either way about it. I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for many people to grasp; if you don't care but here's why you don't want it, actually, then at least just admitting to caring
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@Babadook83 said:
i dont like the woke idea of having every walk of life being represented in media, esp. in games. sexual orientation or gender shouldn't even be a thing in a horror game.
Omg so we're making everyone non-binary and aro/ace? That sound sick I completely agree !!
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Absolutely ######### it the next 3 years worth of characters are all LGBT+ in some regard. It would be glorious.
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I can just imagine you holding something that you drop upon hearing this news, turning to face the audience I absolute shock as a record scratch plays. The scene cuts to the outside of the Killer Shack as someone screeches "JUNE??" and the crows nesting on the top fly off like the crow bombs on Swamp maps
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Stranger Things and Sadako Rising were also cultural resets.
Left behind came to slay and slay it did.
(technological difficulties in finding a good tier list on very limited time)
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@Kelo said:
Thanks for putting so much effort into this and this is a flan for you :)
I appreciate it :)
Never had flan before tbh might try it one day
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I'd rather encourage skillshots more tbh. Decrease the TR nerf, give a 32m/40m lullaby (whatever BHVR decide) increase max range to 24m (his TR), make skillshots easier to do in some other capacity be it increase hitbox, fixing inconsistency, making it harder to break free, that one iridescent that exposes people spared from more than 15m away made basekit, etc. Make gameplay where you actually take the shot far more rewarding than gameplay where you just ADS spam and quick scope. Make it better to actually take your time and fire and hit and not just spam ADS up and down until they're hit.
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@Ruma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3046490#Comment_3046490
Theres still people who havent seen it, how about you just shut up with these stupid spoilers?
If you've wanted to watch Stranger Things for about 6 years and still haven't and then voluntarily click into a thread surrounding Season 4 of the show and then still expect to not have any spoilers then I think that's your own fault.
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@Mooks said:
luckily, this is spoiler free :) haven’t seen the final episodes yet
yeah, I just want Robin and Barb. Barb is an icon that got killed off way too quickly and Robin is such a great and relatable character - even if you ignore the fact she is lesbian she has many great traits and for me is so likeable.
Chrissy too would be nice because I want more Chrissy content.
Eddie legendaries too, because I want more Eddit content.
And Dmitri Antonov because I think he's hot.
@TheMadCat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3046368#Comment_3046368
There's a way to use a spoiler tag, so people who don't want to read spoilers can avoid them? (I'd like to say something but I don't want to spoil anyone.)
You have to be on PC to do this, I'm afraid, but yes there is a way.
This little button round the side
Hit the speech marks and then hit spoiler
It creates a little section like this so you can make a spoiler warning and people must voluntarily click it to see what's inside.
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I want to know so I can stop David getting them
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Colourblind settings already exist (though imo the ones you can get from a filter are better, the fact they're there is very welcome especially for console users).
But yes, accessibility is more than just repeated button presses, and I wish we had more. Moreover, I wish killers went through tests for this stuff so Sadako on PTB, or new Haddonfield, wouldn't be a major seizure risk, and Dredge wouldn't give the worst case of eye strain known to mankind.
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I'd genuinely kill for the option to avoid facing Dredge and make sure I can have a play session without prescription painkillers needing to be on-hand so I can function like a normal person after.
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045951#Comment_3045951
I don't see the problem with admitting being wrong on a video game forum, or even in real life.
Me neither but the community seems to avoid it like the plague
Not the killer, just to clarify.
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045926#Comment_3045926
This is all I want.
Gay/Lesbian/Bi people already have representation in a lot of media, but trans people I rarely see anything. There’s one trans man in the game Tell Me Why and one in the show Shameless but besides that I don’t know of anything else.
With the increase in representation it normalises people and also educates the ones who are unaware.
If you tell someone you’re gay, it is pretty clear what you mean by that.
I hope you day the same can be said about being trans. Just being another addictive to who you are without having to explain what it is/means.
Idk if you've heard of it but I'm almost certain that the main character in Celeste is confirmed to be trans
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045941#Comment_3045941
Honestly we should just fill the rest of the seats with animals.
People are exhausting so I vote we just bring cute wildlife :)
Save a space for my bf but outside of that I'm all for this idea
Noah's Ark but on a plane
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045940#Comment_3045940
Yes, I do admit I was wrong on this, I thought you wanted a country that was really tolerant, not a country where litteraly no oppression existed since it's near impossible.
I don't know why you felt the need to screenshot it, after all we're adult I guess, we can recognize when we're wrong.
You say that, but I've been on these Forums for like 4 years now, and I think I'm the longest-standing active non-BHVR member there is so you'll have to trust me that I've met so many people in this community who are completely incapable of admitting to being wrong it's actually surprising.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045936#Comment_3045936
omg that is the cutest image ever.
the cows boarding the plane:
They can have the seat behind Gay Little Birb !!
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045933#Comment_3045933
Yes, I do admit that no country have 0 oppression against the lgbt. Such is the same for jewish people, muslim, and much more.
Because, sadly, it's impossible to live in a country where everyone support each other.
Just so we're clear you're admitting you're wrong here? Because I've been through this song and dance too many times to not double check
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@dspaceman20 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045925#Comment_3045925
But the original terms wasn't a slur. It wasn't even used for trans people
It was a non derogatory term to describe cross dressers
You'll have to trust me that when a person who's been affected by a slur, or is part of a minority group who's been affected by a slur, says that something is a harmful slur, it's normally best to agree and move on. It may have started out as harmless but believe me, at least in the UK, that word has some abhorrent connotations.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045924#Comment_3045924
they better have cows.
if not we're bringing some on the flight lmfaooo
I completely agree, what a good plan
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045914#Comment_3045914
you're about to discover that you can't bring hate crimes on any community to 0 %, and as something get draw more attention, the risk of growing said crimes also rise.
In which case people there still experience oppression because the majority still cause irreparable damage to the minority community through harm and other criminal activities motivated by spite.
Rendering your comment than nobody in Canada experiences oppression for being LGBT wrong. Tell the people being killed for being trans that they aren't being oppressed.
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I'll bring my bf on a layer flight omg this is gonna be such a nice permanent holiday, maybe they'll even have cows
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045892#Comment_3045892
"same for trans, gay and overall queer people depanding of where they live, they're not always oppressed."
BESTIE WHERE???
I'm packing my bags rn and booking a flight.
Omg take me with you I'll bring Gay Little Bird !!
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045869#Comment_3045869
You're not a cis straight drag so you don't know how they feel and how they are discriminated for it.
No, I'm not, so I don't know what they face. What I do know is they aren't part of the LGBT+ community if they're cis and het. They may be allies, and they may be fighting their own serious battles against prejudice and discrimination that I would gladly help them fight, but they aren't under the LGBT+ acronym (under mine and many other's definition of "queer" anyway).
Do they face persecution? Most likely. Does this deserve to be diminished? Not at all. Given the current climate across the world I'd rather we amplify everyone's voices if we can because every marginalised person deserves to be heard and deserves to be seen. But they aren't part of the LGBT community, which is what the debate is all about.
Drag culture and cross-dressers have done immeasurable good things for the LGBT community and are probably a key part in why I can feel comfortably gay and not worry about constant persecution (or, used to notworry about constant persecution after my childhood anyway, but that seems to have gone out the window), but they were allies in that battle, not part of the community they fought for. They aren't affected by laws surrounding same-sex marriage, intercourse, or HRT, identity changes, etc. And that's, I think, the crux of the debate.
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@SuzuKR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045847#Comment_3045847
Nerdy introvert girl, check.
Is into witchcraft, check.
Looks adorable, check.
I agree.
Then as sworn by Oath upon the Gay Little Birb
I, GoodBoyKaru, declare Mikaela Reid a canonical trans lesbian.
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@SuzuKR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045838#Comment_3045838
I agree, we should get back to why every single character in DBD is LGBT+.
I wholeheartedly support this cause. And I'll start with explaining why Mikaela Reid is a trans lesbia-
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045801#Comment_3045801
Queer simply means not cisgender/straight.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sexual-orientation/what-does-queer-mean
So a crossdresser who is straight and cis is not queer.
That's definitely how I'd define it, and apparently a vast majority of LGBT websites and resources do too, but I know that some people will define it differently and thus their view on what is and isn't included under the acronym may be different.
If their definition is right or wrong, I don't really have the jurisdiction to say imo. I'd agree with "non-straight or non-cisgendered" but others may know it as something different, and since I'm a gay man and not someone who defines themself as queer I don't want to speak over those who define themselves that way and how they identify, if that makes sense?
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I always have to get that meme in somewhere because it's never not useful.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045344#Comment_3045344
Except, they're not. Allies are not part of the acronym (the A stands for Aromantic/Asexual). CisHet people can do drag, that's fine, and in doing so they have helped the LGBT+ community quite a bit, but they are not part of the community for they are not part of the acronym. They're allies, yes, but they are not discriminated upon because of their sexuality or gender identity.
Drag is optional. LGBT+ existence is not. And while I'm sure everyone appreciates their contribution, it's important to recognise that there is an overlap but they are not the same.
I'd like to make an addendum to this comment if that's okay, to better clarify what I mean.
I don't think that people who cross-dress face zero retaliation, discrimination, prejudice, etc. I'm almost certain, in fact, that most people who cross-dress will receive hatred for whatever reason.
However, to me, the LGBT community (I do mean the entire acronym here, however I write LGBT and have done for years because it's quicker and easier and my brain moves faster than I can type so being able to write anything shorter is always welcome) revolves around gender identity and sexuality. Not gender expression, but gender identity. So if you cross-dress, you're expressing your gender in whatever way makes you feel most comfortable, and you most likely don't want to stop because it helps you feel like you. You technically could but it wouldn't feel authentic, like I technically could date a woman but it wouldn't feel authentic and I wouldn't be happy.
But I don't think gender expression alone makes it into the LGBT acronym. I'm almost certain they're allies, and their support is invaluable considering the climate we currently exist in, but they aren't within that community imho unless they're also gay, bi, lesbian, trans, pan, etc.
However this then all depends on how you define "queer". To some, cross-dressing is classed as queer whilst to others it isn't.
The comment wasn't made to minimise the struggles that people who cross-dress face, so please don't interpret it that way.
I hope this can help clear up my viewpoint and get my opinion across better - I'm always open to a discussion, so long as it is a discussion, but like I mentioned prior I guess it all comes down to how you define "queer" in the context of LGBTQ+.
There's a lot of overlap between drag, cross-dressing, and LGBT identities. They aren't however completely interlinked, and you can do drag/cross-dress without being part of the LGBT community.
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@Cryptikk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045752#Comment_3045752
annnndddd you just proved their point
I'm almost certain we just hit bingo actually.
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@Sylhiri said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045639#Comment_3045639
So we'll just add one more gay man then.
Ah yes, because in the entire LGBTQIA+ community, focusing on exclusively the G is a wonderful idea.
No. Not at all.
There's a wide range of identities that BHVR could choose to represent. There isn't an end-point, and BHVR can add as many as they see fit. However as a community who play the game, we are entitled to ask for representation of our own identities or similar.
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@Sylhiri said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045614#Comment_3045614
Well, what would the appropriate amount of representation look like?
more than a singular gay man.
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@SuzuKR said:
Sure. You know what, I’ll go along with your thoughts. There’s too much representation - of cishet people. The absolute overwhelming majority of all media of any form whatsoever produced since the start of human civilization is cishet. The percent of LGBT+ characters in media is far smaller than the actual amount. Therefore, I think that should be corrected for. From now until some unspecified point in the future, no cishet characters will be created or portrayed. Every single character will be LGBT+, until the summation of all human media from the start of human civilization itself reaches the supposedly precious accurate "statistics" of representation people like you care so deeply about. Sound good?
Oh wait what’s that, you think that’s unfair? You want representation? Sure - but only if you can explain what makes you think you deserve representation. After all, cishets are currently over-represented in human media in its summed up existence. Can’t have that lazy representation now, can we? You don’t agree? Why are you so obsessed about representation? I think that’s kind of unhealthy to crave it so much.
over-representation in media is only fair when the majority get to be over-represented, don't you know? can't have minorities be represented with more than a single character each- hell, just shove them all into one and get it over and done with- because that would be far too upsetting! can't have the majority see more than a single minority on-screen at any one time, after all.
(obligatory /s)
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@GentlemanFridge said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045088#Comment_3045088
You really gonna make me tear up like that when im already emotionally unstable, huh?
yes <3
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@Sadako_Best_Girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045348#Comment_3045348
But they are diverting potential resources for the design team though. This is not a great argument.
the lore team will always write lore. the lore team will not suddenly begin programming. we can argue all we want about a misallocation of resources but lore will always be written, so we can always request representation in it.
therefore, the meme works.
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045346#Comment_3045346
I sincerely think you should stop doing what you’re doing if you don’t want to immediately ruin your reputation as a new forum member.
i think it's too late for that one
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@Hilidaris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045337#Comment_3045337
Well because they're part of the lgbt community, so they could at least get some attention too.
Except, they're not. Allies are not part of the acronym (the A stands for Aromantic/Asexual). CisHet people can do drag, that's fine, and in doing so they have helped the LGBT+ community quite a bit, but they are not part of the community for they are not part of the acronym. They're allies, yes, but they are not discriminated upon because of their sexuality or gender identity.
Drag is optional. LGBT+ existence is not. And while I'm sure everyone appreciates their contribution, it's important to recognise that there is an overlap but they are not the same.
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@Deme said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045331#Comment_3045331
the first amendment is a human right and its political
the first amendment codifies the right to free speech into law, making it political. wasn't before the fist amendment made it so, though; that's literally the point. overlap, not identical.
youre trying so hard and it just isnt working.
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@Tostapane said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045317#Comment_3045317
you mean that you consider the game balanced with all the bullshit stuff that we must endure both as killer and survivor? good for you then... this is my personal opinion and as i said before this is what i consider more important right now... the health of the game itself which actually isn't good at all... good try but if you want to start flaming me for my opinions about what's actually important you should find someone else (you can disagree with me, but this isn't a good reason to lack of respect to another member of the dbd community)...
anyway
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@Deme said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045309#Comment_3045309
google has my back
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/2WDMI09SP0S4/image.png
cant belive i had to google this
To quote Professor Laura Valentini, who has a PHD in Political Philosophy
"Philosophical discussion of human rights has long been monopolised by what might be called the ‘natural-law view’. On this view, human rights are fundamental moral rights which people enjoy solely by virtue of their humanity. In recent years, a number of theorists have started to question the validity of this outlook, advocating instead what they call a ‘political’ view."
I argue that it makes sense to think of human rights as political in relation to both their iudicandum and their justification but in a way that is not always adequately captured by proponents of the political view. Moreover, I also claim that, if we take the political view seriously, we still need to engage in the sort of abstract moral reasoning that characterises the natural-law approach and which proponents of the political view significantly downplay."
So, like I said; overlap, but they aren't inherently political, and only in recent years have they begun to be seen that way.
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@Cryptikk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045311#Comment_3045311
Its important to us lgbt, try and use a more original reason to downplay the representation next time.
also Karu is that another bingo point?
no i think we've already had "why does it matter" earlier in the thread and i wasn't anticipating a debate about drag showing up
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@Deme said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3045292#Comment_3045292
"Issues of protecting human rights" is political
Not quite, try again !!
Like I said, quite a bit of overlap but they're 2 distinct concepts and should be treated as such, you're so close though !!
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@Deme said:
please dont put politics in the game
Gay people existing isn't inherently political it's only political if you make it political.
And if you make it political then we know exactly who you are.
Issues of protecting human rights are not political. There may be an overlap but they are not political.
