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@XVigilanteX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1041826#Comment_1041826
I can't tell if I'm being trolled honestly would you mind posting your screenshots?
I wouldn't really worry about why she wants them particularly.
If Fibijean can find something in those screenshots to help the OP out than I don't see why it would hurt to ask. If you can provide said screenshots to this issue than that'd be great, if not than I wouldn't worry about it.
She's not trolling you either, she's indeed serious about helping this individual out in her own way.
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Can you clarify what a "PC Game Pass" is? Are you talking about the Xbox Game Pass but just with a different name?
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@upsidedownlex said:
Thank you so much for giving me some guidance quickly! Luckily I’m off work tomorrow and can get some screenshots in order and run through the bloodweb a few more times just to make sure.
Thank you as well for offering to help me out! So I’ve figured out when i got what bases on digging through my find. I typically screenshot the weekly shrine announcement on twitter so i remember to check it out when i get in game.
Platform player on: Xbox.
Unlocked Borrowed Time: Christmas Eve or Day, 2019.
Unlocked Unbreakable: October 8th or 9th, 2019.
I will note that i only have my Bill to maybe a level 8 or 9. I stopped bothering with him when i got his teachables in the shrine. I was maining Nea for awhile, so was for the moment content with things once she was equipped with them.
And oddly enough, i got Decisive Strike from the Shrine end of September and have had no problem with unlocking that on multiple survivors (Nancy, Nea, Meg, Claudette, etc). And i don’t own Laurie, so it for sure left me confused that all was well with a teachable from a character i don’t own versus issues with multiple perks from one i do.
I will for sure post screenshots soon! Thanks again, guys!! :)
It's good to know that you're on console with this issue, but the thing is you got these perks around the time Bill came out for console... so the problem I thought was happening isn't actually the case.
Allow me to elaborate more on this
In the past, some console users bought Bills perks on the Shrine of Secrets when Bill wasn't on console... after awhile he was released to console and these same players had to unlock his perks again to get them on any Survivors that didn't have said perks at max tier or had the perks at all.
As a result, some Survivors would have Bills perks at Tier lll before he was released but they couldn't get these perks for any other Survivors. So, they had to be re-taught to every Survivor via buying them again through the Shrine or learning them through leveling up Bill.
But since you literally said that you bought these perks because you didn't want to level up Bill... this issue isn't the case above and it's just a blood-web bug that's happening to your Nancy. This could be because of how the blood-web interacts with perks that weren't taught through the characters themselves and instead bought on the Shrine, but the actual issue is unknown.
here's what I recommend you do
In these links below i'll be providing you one to the Support Team and one to the Bug Report sub-forum, you can either submit a ticket to the support team so they can straighten this issue out, report it to the Bug Report sub-forum so the Devs can be aware of this issue if they're not already (optional if you submit a ticket), or you can do both if you'd like.
I don't have an exact fix for you since I don't personally know why you're not getting anymore perks in your Nancys blood-web when you clearly have some perks that need to be learned... but I can provide you with a link to the Support Team that'll be more than happy to help you out with your issue in a more... "intimate" way I suppose.
[Here's the Support Team link]:
https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us
[Here's the Bug Report sub-forum link]:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/categories/bug-reports
I do hope that your issue is resolved and that you can continue playing DBD. Also, if you don't want to make a bug report in the bug report sub-forum than that's fine, i'm sure the support team will catalog the issue for you if it's a new one, so reporting it to the Bug Report sub-forum is entirely optional when submitting a ticket to the Support Team.
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@Ramxenoc445 said:
I love it. I grind this game endlessly when i was playing it anyway so its no problem for me. Plus i like the exclusivity of things. Not everyone was meant to get everything.
That's a good point at the end actually, not everyone is supposed to 100% everything within the time-frame but they for sure can with the 70 days that're provided.
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@breakingbryce said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1041566#Comment_1041566
My title literally mentions they're bugs. I'm saying they're bugs. I imply they're bugs. Why is this even being brought up, it has nothing to do with my question.
I read through the post. I'm glad they're atleast trying to fix it.
The point wasn't to over-analyze what you said and correct it, I was just saying that you didn't outright say it was a bug and instead said it was an issue, which is why I even brought it up because it came off that way but clearly it wasn't from what you're telling me. In all seriousness, it doesn't matter...
Anyways, yes, it's good that the matchmaking will now be focused more on skill brackets as a whole, this is good for the future health of the game and in-general with how new players face Survivors and Killers alike.
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@breakingbryce said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1041456#Comment_1041456
What do you call it then? A glitch? You know what I meant my dude haha
Unless I can't read you didn't mention they were bugs, they were just mentioned as "gamebreaking issues."
Which in a sense they're in most cases (kinda), especially if the queue times get worse and worse, but they're indeed looking into the fix and have released an update on this in the link above.
And the "Rainbow Rank issue" is also something that hits a lot of new players, so it does deter them from playing if they're paired with Ranks that're far above their skill-set. So yeah, i'd considered these to be big issues, game breaking? No, but they're indeed issues that need addressing... which they're being addressed so that's good!
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@judge_fist said:
I switch between killer and survivor I would have to dedicate to one or the other if I wanted to get through each tome. I enjoy both sides too much to stick to one. I still don't think it's enough time. Can't always complete every challenge in a match or two. Either way I'll just keep taking the free BP for em if they want money from me for it something has got to change.
I'd argue that 70 days is enough time...
That's why it's set at 70 days, it so that players like yourself (I assume) or others above that don't play the game for more than 3 hours a day or maybe a bit more.
If it was set to 100 days or something than that would be unrealistic... 70 days is indeed enough, I'm sure they thought about an average players play-time when they were designing The Rift.
I can understand why it might come off as not do-able because of how many levels there are and how many challenges you get for each one with their own unique requirements... but you only get about what? 12+ or so challenges in each level if I had to guess for a minimum?
And each level gives you time in-between each release date, so it lets you have some breathing room to just play normally after UNTIL the next level.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1026419#Comment_1026419
Many fog whisperers bought tier 70 instantly tbf
Well of course they did, they're streamers...
I don't doubt that they do the challenges LIVE on stream but it could come off as boring to some players that're watching them.
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@WordyWithBirdy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036975#Comment_1036975
Its hard i completely agree with you. To me if i cant grind one month im forced to play killer to get them levels in. There is a reason for the rift to be set out the way it is so ur not forced to play both. So if u dont wanna play both u are forced to grind to get you moneys worth. People that have that luxury to sit and play games all day just to hit level 70. Ii agree with u the time spent to reach level 70 to recolors of skins it stupid now if there was new things in the rift and alot of new thing instead of recolors of thinks that maybe worth it to do. Im on level 10 6 days in with ust doing survivor thats at playing 5 hours a day for the last 4 days. Theres no way i will get that finished. It wont be long where i think people are going to get sick of doing the same quests over and over again just to get skins in a different color
The recolored skins are just a bi-product of what The Rift is trying to offer you as the main reward. The main rewards consist of unique charms and skins. Think of it as a sort of "filler" to what you're actually trying to get in The Rift, the filler could be good or bad depending on if you like the skins recolor or not, I personally love the recolor to The Wraiths Candle Wax head, it looks good, but that's what a recolor is... it's supposed to appeal to Survivors/Killers that want an alternate look for their favorite skins.
With 70 days to complete the Rift i'd argue anyone could finish it with that amount of time, that's literally 2 standard months with 10+ days thrown on it. Also, you could have more time to do said challenges or less depending on what's happening in your life, that's why we have 70 days to complete every new Rift that comes out with each new Tome.
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They're actually, they just made a post about what they're trying to work on with matchmaking. I'll link it below so you can see the status update on the matchmaking changes.
[Here's the link to the status update on matchmaking]:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/124795/status-update-matchmaking-changes#latest
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It just sounds like a standard bug with how the blood-web is reacting to the perks being bought off the Shrine rather than being unlocked in-game through the character themselves.
But I would like to ask something, what version are you playing on? PC? PS4? Xbox? And when did you buy these perks off the Shrine if you can remember. You mentioned you did this in the past few months so... a few could mean 2 to 3 or even 4 months from now.
After this gets cleared up with what version you're on and when you bought these perks on the Shrine than I can recommend you to go to the Support Team about this, since it just seems like a standard bug... but it could be something else that has happened to recent players in the past on Console with Bills perks.
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@Avilgus said:
Like when he came out...
Some people like the challenge, it mainly just has to do with who you're facing as The Doctor and vice versa when playing as a Survivor with a team.
Some Survivors hate him no matter what... some like him as a Survivor and Killer, either way, players will always dislike a Killer no matter who they're or what gets reworked... people still don't like Legion as an example, even after a lot of his changes.
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Well, for the most part you need to focus more on team work, cool-downs between Static Blasts and Shock Therapy attacks, and regular chase mechanics. Allow me to get a bit more elaborate with this down below.
team-work
For one, we'll talk about team-work and why this is important against The Doctor. Your team will naturally go do Generators and other such actions that requires rescuing, healing, etc while you get chased OR vice versa when someone else is being chased. Your team, and as an extension you, should go and work on other actions like repairing Generators and rescuing your teammates/healing them during these grace periods.
This is of course basic 101 team-work tips, but they're essential for a "good game" when facing any Killer like The Doctor.
the doctors powers and cool-downs
The Doctor specializes in spacial awareness with his Static Blast and hindering you during a chase around pallets and windows with his regular Shock Therapy attack. Each attack has a cool-down between uses and requires you to time look into how long his cool-downs are and how you can abuse this within a chase itself.
Like most M1 Killers you'll want to surround yourself with pallets and windows in the event that they begin to chase you specifically. The Doctor has the ability to alert him to any nearby Survivors that're in his Terror Radius, so while (in a scenario) say... he Static Blasts his Radius and sees your notification as the person he'll go and chase next, once he does so you'll want to go to any nearby pallets or windows that're nearby and prepare for the chase, if you have the ability to hide than i'd do it so he wastes a lot of time looking for you while your teammates sneak by.
In the event you're in a chase, than you'll want to use what you know about how long his cool-downs are between his Shock Therapy attacks and Survive the chase as long as you can. Outside of his Shock Therapy Blasts he's just a regular M1 Killer, so if you can dodge the blasts and know how to loop a regular M1 Killer than you'll waste a lot of his time while your teammates (this is where team-work comes in) go and work on any Generators that they find.
For more information on The Doctor and his cool-downs for basekit than you'll want to go to this link below and study up on this.
[Here's the link to The Doctors section on the DBD Wiki]:
https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Herman_Carter
regular chase mechanics
For one you'll want to know the basics and as an extension the basic tiles of this game for when you face any Killer in a chase. While this video i'm about to link is outdated with out the Lery's map is, it's still solid with knowing every basic tile in most of the maps in DBD.
[Here's the video i'm talking about on basic tiles/loops]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6QYjInzLeM&t=58sThe video, like I said, is fairly dated with Lery's as an example and other such maps that weren't added until later on in the games life, but it still talks about these basic tiles that're used through out most of the DBD maps and I suggest looking into this video to learn more about such tiles, or as most people call them loops.
tips for basic chases
In a basic scenario you'll want to be familiar with some "mind-games" that a Killer will throw at you. Since we're talking about The Doctor in particular, you'll focus on his power and what he might do in a basic chase.
For one, most Doctors in a chase will naturally try to shock you with their Shock Therapy attack at a loop to prevent you from pulling to down in the chase, this is because when you're shocked by The Doctor you can't drop pallets, vault, heal, etc for a few seconds.
Start to get familiar with how The Doctor goes about shocking the loop, experiment and attempt to dodge these shocks with unpredictable routing and in-general basic dodging. If you have a decent amount of distance between you and The Doctor in a loop than I wouldn't worry about being shocked, since you can just keep looping him around said loop until you decide to drop the pallet. In some cases you might not be able to dodge the shock with an alternative route to go or just because there is no room in-general to do so, so in the event that he attempts to shock you with enough room for him to get around the loop and hit you... i'd just drop the pallet in that scenario.
Now, in some loops this is a bad idea because the loop might be unsafe or unpredictable, but if the loop is a decent size and length than you can just drop the pallet and take and alternate route around the other side of said loop to avoid a double back and getting hit. Although in some cases you can just drop the pallet and be fine until he breaks it, just because the loop might be too big to attempt anything else on it without breaking the pallet.
Anything else you'd need to know is learning about moonwalking and other such things that Killers might do around loops with high walls, they do this to hide their "Red Stain" or more commonly referred to as their Red Light, which they do so by moonwalking around the corner of a loop to make you think they're going to the other side or they might try something advanced and face that corner while moonwalking to the other side and hitting you around the long way of the loop in a sense.
The video above should cover these things, so that's all I wanted to put in here before posting this comment.
conclusion
Hope this might help in some way or give some insight in what to do against The Doctor or any basic M1 Killer for the most part.
Stay safe out there,
see you in the fog.
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1040813#Comment_1040813
Damn it I never check the in game news section! D:
It's ok, you're still my favorite dweet.
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@FSB75 said:
TY...this is the information I was looking for. Greatly appreciate it....careful in the fog.
No problem, glad I could help.
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@fisching7 said:
Thanks guys!
No problem, glad we could help you out!
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
There are not confirmed dates for the next levels of Tome II. At least, none that I've seen.
Here you go mate.
- Level l: January 22nd 11AM ET
- Level ll: February 4th
- Level lll: February 18th
- Level lV: March 10th
Every new Tome always has a news post in the main menu for the upcoming levels, they're of course subject to change if something comes up, but these are the scheduled times if everything goes according to plan.
Use this image next time someone asks for the levels, it's in the news section in the main menu for every new Tome that comes out, so there you go Mr. D W E E T ! ❤️
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@MongolPSR said:
@FireHazard ok.
Yeah like that!
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@Hydrant said:
Thanks for tips, I don't tend to struggle with adepts, only ones which did gave me trouble was Adept Plague for obvious reasons, but Otz's video helped me, and then the Oni, I managed to do Adept Hillbilly on frickin' Lery's.
Also I started to manage the flick yesterday, so yeah, that will help.
Glad to hear you're doing alright now for the most part!
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@[Deleted User] said:
Yes it is currently bugged and there should be a fix soon.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/122269/reported-issues-3-5-0#latest
We were in-sync with that edit lmao.
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It's a known issue at the moment, the Devs know and they're going to fix it.
[Here's the link to the known issues post for version 3.5.0]:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/122269/reported-issues-3-5-0#latest
[Here's a quote from said post]:
"We are looking into scenarios where Decisive Strike does not stun the killer in spite of succeeding the skill check. If you create a bug report, please be sure to let us know which killer you were playing against when this happened."
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The issue with this story is that it doesn't mention if The Killer was not hitting anyone and just shocking the Generators and keeping them from being done the entire time for an unnecessary amount of it.
If he was, than it can be considered "holding the game hostage" since he's not doing anything to progress the game with Killing Survivors and he's preventing Survivors from finishing the Generators through hitting, downing, etc.
If he did all that, than he was holding the game hostage yeah, if he was playing normally but just "camping" that tight nit of Generators to keep them from being completed while also downing and hooking Survivors than... it's not holding the game hostage.
The reason for that is this, there's still progress being done on both sides, both sides are doing their objective, albeit slowly, and they're progressing the game forward through getting killed, downing Survivors and hooking them, or trying to work on said Generators to progress the game forward.
In the case for a 3 gen defense Doctor you should risk a lot to get one of those Generators done, since once 1 is done than the rest are pointless to protect since another Generator is like 10 miles away for example (exaggeration). But we don't know the full story so, it's hard to tell which is which here.
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@Kagari_Leha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036783#Comment_1036783
Well since it's a bug, according to @Fibijean, I think I wont suggest it for now xD
Right, i'd just forget about it since Rift rewards don't normally already have cosmetics you own...
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@bluberryjammin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1038023#Comment_1038023
thanks man its just a bit confusing as killer im a bit new to killer so im just trying to keep myself something to replace ruin in my usual whispers nurses bbq build so thanks for the suggustions
Replace Ruin with either Corrupt Intervention or Pop Goes the Weasel, either one is good on their own.
Thanatophobia is only good on certain Killers that can keep Survivors constantly damaged like Legion and Plague, if you use it on a normal M1 Killer than the best it can do is give you small percentage debuffs for Survivors repair, healing, and sabotage speeds. It's only really good on Killers like Plague and Legion that can keep the entire team Injured, which is what this perk mainly works off of.
BBQ & Chili is good on any Killer yeah, so i'd for sure use that for the BPs gain and the passive aura reading that a lot of Killers mainly use BBQ for.
Corrupt Intervention was and still is arguable better than Old Ruin, since Corrupt Intervention blocks the 3 farthest Generators from your spawn for 80/100/120 seconds depending its Tier. This allows you to catch any Survivors that're sneaking by to the Generators that're not blocked OR you can just monitor the handful of Generators that're not blocked at the moment, making it easier to do so and it also gives you a free minute in the Gatekeeper emblem if you keep the other 4 Generators from being completed.
Also, you can use Corrupt Intervention with Pop Goes the Weasel... which is pretty strong since Pop Goes the Weasel will still work long after Corrupts timer runs out.
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@MongolPSR said:
well I just dumped 300 k into legion so he was lvl 15
Well that's good, you're at least progressing with your grind!
Also, you can @ me by using the @ key and than typing my name out and clicking on the drop box for my name to notify me back to this post. You can also just click on the middle option below each comment that says "quote". This is located between the Vote Up and Flag option, so if you click on MY comment that I make than you can quote my post and than type below and post your comment, once posted you comment will also mention me back to this post (I.E. it'll notify me that you're still talking to me in a sense)
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Again, we have no announcements or mentions on this at the time of this post.
If we hear something about it than they'll let us know in an upcoming Dev Stream or announcement on the forums, otherwise, we have no information on this question and we won't really know for awhile since the next gen consoles are not scheduled for release until late 2020.
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It actually is a current issue at the moment with how the match-making currently works. BHVR has said in their recent Dev Stream that they're aware of this issue and know that it's causing a lot of issues for queue times and as well as this one which is better known as the "rainbow rank match-making."
For now, we'll have to wait until they get a fix out for this or work on it with the upcoming Rank Rework that's scheduled to happen around this time in the Road Map, but other than that you'll have to deal with it i'm afraid.
Sorry.
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@Febb3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1039627#Comment_1039627
I don't know that's why i asked
If you keep it on default settings and use headphones than you should be fine, my settings for audio are mostly on default and I get "3D Sound" the entire time.
It could just be your head-phones like these two have said above or it's your computer depending on where the sound comes from with surround sound.
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It's already been said but... players just hate Doctor or Killers that have unique powers that hinder them from their objective in some way, Survivors always have and always will hate Killers like this.
Some will enjoy it, but for some reason the majority hates this. The rework The Doctor got really did buff him while also cutting down on the core issues people hated in the first place, if players still can't enjoy facing him even with these changes that were centered around helping with that issue... than that's their loss, you can't always please everyone and you'll sometimes still get these players that'll DC to something no matter what.
It's unfortunate yeah, but when the DC penalty system comes around soon than players will have no choice but to get used to it, you can't always just DC from an issue you don't like and some players will eventually have to learn that soon.
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It's a known issue at the moment, BHVR is aware and they're looking into fixing it.
Your best option is to just contact support team and let them know, they'll either give you information on the issue or a possible fix.
[Here's the Support Team link]:
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@MongolPSR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037621#Comment_1037621
thought I would give an update currently running with David and his bonus points perk. I play both killer and survivor but my joy and love comes from playing killer. I think both legion and doc would work for me as I'm partial to speedy killers and weird killers so legion and doc are right up my alley. legion actually got me to rank 6 before I took a break and got reset to 20. only problem is my killer queues are long and my survivor queues are quick so im just grinding that.
Sounds good, hopefully you'll be able to catch when the sides flip in terms of queue times and go back to playing Killer for the time being.
But it's good you're making progress on the other side at least.
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@kurogane said:
i wrote to the team but i dont know if they work on the weekend, so ill wait a bit and see what happens
I couldn't tell you if they do or not.
If they do, they'll eventually get to your ticket when you reach the head of the line. Usually the oldest tickets naturally get tended too next and the new tickets will get taken care of after.
If they don't than it'll eventually get taken care of yes.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037611#Comment_1037611
During the daytime, my survivor queues are instant and my killer queues are long.
In the evening, my killer queues are instant and my survivor queues are long.
It seems very dependent on rank, region, and platform. The best thing to do while playing is just, if you find yourself waiting in the queue, switch to the other role. It's what I do.
Yeah, that's a better option.
Hopefully he plays both sides and doesn't mind switching between them, if he doesn't than it's something he'll have to try out until they work on the Match-making fix, which is also hitting queue times a lot recently.
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@TragicSolitude said:
Without BBQ from Leatherface, grinding will take twice as long as killer. You could use WGLF from David, but survivors in general earn fewer points than killer. You might just want to use whichever role has the faster queue, because wasting time in queue is probably what'll hurt your efficiency the most.
I use BBQ, Beast of Prey, Distressing, and a fourth perk (personally, for me, I use Whispers) to grind a crapton of BP with minimal effort. I usually use Spirit, because she gets BP for phase walking, which when paired with Distressing earns points very quickly, especially if you can get Grudge hits. Lately, however, I've been using Doc, because he earns Deviousness points like mad. By using Whispers and Distressing, I know when a survivor's in range to use Static Blast, so I pretty much always get points when I use it. I can get a lot of points without even killing anyone.
I think the best option the OP has for a quick queue at the moment is Survivor is i'm not mistaken?
It also depends on his rank too, personally I do fine with queues as a Killer in Red Rank.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037565#Comment_1037565
What I've been saying this entire time was that the perks themselves weren't changed in Patch 3.4.0, at least not officially. How they appeared on the Survivors' HUD was the only thing that was changed, and the Patch Notes themselves are directly reflective of that. "Debuff perks no longer appear on the Survivors in-game HUD until the debuff is applied."
I'm not sure how I can make that point any clearer, but I mentioned it mainly for the benefit of the OP anyway, so I guess I will just leave it here in the hope that my making that distinction is helpful to them.
We could debate back and forth for hours, you and I know that, but i'll leave it here since this isn't the place to do it anyways which I will agree with.
Whoever is "right" or not doesn't really matter for this question, the OP has their answer and that's all that matters. I can talk about this elsewhere but i'm not personally interested in continuing it here.
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I'd wait for something like BBQ & Chili personally, Rancor is ok for tracking the Obsession themselves, but BBQ & Chili is better for tracking the entire Survivor team in-general.
And on a Killer like GhostFace, it's a good perk when you can track each Survivor outside of 40 meters and see their auras. By doing this, you can just activate Nightshroud and go right to them for a sneak attack.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037489#Comment_1037489
I'm not saying you can't do well with Legion, just that there's a reason he's pretty much universally considered one of if not the weakest killer - because he's the most difficult to get kills with against good survivors. Doctor isn't top-tier or anything, but he's a few levels at least above Legion, because he's generally just a bit easier to rack up kills with. Again, not that you can't do well with Legion, just that he struggles more against good survivors than most killers do.
Depends where your skill is at as a Killer main and what scenario you're given.
Technically speaking i'd agree, but a tier list doesn't add the most important factor... which is the player themselves and how unpredictable they can be in-game.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037553#Comment_1037553
Sure. As I said, while that is theoretically possible, I don't think it would make very much sense from a programming point of view. My theory is just based on what is more likely to be technically the case. But of course there's no real way to know without examining the code for ourselves, or having someone who has explain it to us.
Right, and I get that, but again anything is possible when you think about how the perk previously worked and how it works now.
Since UP worked in-general for anything before 3.4.0, than it was changed to only work on actions pertaining to it... so it's an odd case for the perk itself.
But we'll see if anything comes of it in the future, probably not, but we'll see.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037522#Comment_1037522
I believe they would always be active in the background, yes. The fact that UP doesn't affect DS doesn't mean the perk isn't active at that time, it just means that there is something in the programming that tells DS skill checks to ignore UP. Only a dev can confirm this, but from my own experience with programming, I would imagine that the way it works is that the perks are consistently active, and the game checks for their presence when the survivor is performing the relevant action.
So to use OP as an example, whenever a survivor uses an item, the game asks itself, is Overwhelming Presence active? Are we in the killer's terror radius? And if the answer to both of those is yes, then the effects of the perk are applied. It's essentially like how a switched-on power socket is always active, electrically, but it doesn't have any effect until you plug something into it.
That'd make sense, but unless a Dev confirms that than it's unknown whether or not it's true or not.
Plus, you could also argue that the perk only activates for certain things like repairing, healing, etc, which means it only applies to those actions and in a sense isn't always active because the perk doesn't need to be, so in my scenario it wouldn't be active since DS used to be affected by UP UNTIL that change.
In your scenario, it ignores certain skill-checks and other such things that doesn't pertain to the perk itself.
But again, we'll never know unless a curious dev stops by to confirm either sides speculation, so in a sense, the conversation is at a moot point unfortunately.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1037477#Comment_1037477
That is essentially what you said, yes, I was just clarifying because the word "active" can imply that there is a technical difference between the active and inactive states. Programming-wise, I'm about as certain as one can be without actually seeing the code itself that Overwhelming Presence's effect is consistently "active" - that is, from a technical standpoint, there is never a point where the perk is "switched off" - which is why I felt the need to clarify that the change in the patch was purely a visual one, because your comment could have been taken to mean that there had been some changes to the actual functionality of the perk, which isn't the case.
Just a small quibble over semantics for the sake of complete clarity, that's all!
Right, and I get that, but i'd argue that Unnerving Presence is essentially the same as Overwhelming Presence is it not?
They both activate when you use and item and work on an action speed, and Unnerving Presence doesn't work on DS... which still wasn't proven to be a bug or not, but it's been like what? several patches now? If it was a bug than we'd hear something about it right?
If we did, I haven't seen anything about it recently...
So, i'd also argue that both these parts are not always active since they never do anything outside of these actions... sure they're "active" in the sense that they're on standby to debuff any actions that pertain to them inside the Killers Terror Radius, but are they really always active in the background?
That's just a theory though on if OP and UP are the same in this sense, but it would make sense if they're right? Since again, DS doesn't work when the Killer has UP and UP only activates when you work on an action that pertains to it... so, that would mean it isn't always active until you do something correct?
Again, a theory, it was never confirmed (as far as I know) that DS not working on UP is a bug or not, but again again, it's been several patches now... so if it was it would've been fixed or mentioned by now right?
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036348#Comment_1036348
The main reason I recommend Doctor over Legion is just because Legion is a much more difficult killer to perform well with, meaning that while they're comparable in Deviousness and Brutality, it's easier to get Sacrifice points with Doctor just because he's easier to play effectively. Plus, new Doctor is even more powerful and better at Deviousness farming than old Doctor was.
Also, as good as BBQ is, it's apparently out of the question, as OP mentioned that they didn't want to buy the Cannibal just for his perks 🤷
I could argue that Legion is actually a lot easier to perform with than Doctor, since it's just Feral Frenzy chain-stabbing with on-board visual notifications of any Survivors that're nearby during the chain-stab.
Also, i'd argue that you can down Survivors at a quicker pace with Legion with the right builds, since my build actually makes it better to not heal than it is too heal... which inevitable causes dead-zones around the map because Survivors are trying a lot harder to not get one-shot by Legion.
But it's not just builds tbh, in-general you can rack up a lot of points and downs with the right maps and scenarios. If it's against an optimal team than tbh neither Legion or Doctor could make that a walk in the park.
While that may not be the case for the start, it's indeed the case for the mid/end game. And the BBQ part was just a suggestion to actually go for it, whether or not he does is up to him.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036294#Comment_1036294
To clarify, the perk would still be "active" the whole time, from a mechanical standpoint - the only change that was made was to the survivors' UI, so the survivors are only given a visual cue that the perk is active when they are using an item within the terror radius, instead of just being inside the terror radius as was previously the case.
Isn't that essential what I said?
I mean, the perk was changed from being active inside the Terror Radius to being active in-general with the icon just not showing up until you use an item.
But we have an issue with that claim. Unnerving Presence also only activates when you do an action like repairing, healing, etc, which is similar to Overwhelming Presence when using an item, but the thing is it was never proven that it is still active outside of doing these actions, since Unnerving Presence doesn't work on DS anymore as of the change. But we still don't know if that was intentional or not, and if it was or wasn't than I haven't seen it being said at least.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/es/discussion/comment/1037352#Comment_1037352
Thank you for bringing it up, but yes I'm aware. As I said, I tend to flag the posts, which obviously only the mods can see, so just because I didn't visibly do anything to get it moved doesn't mean I didn't do anything 😊
Right...
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/es/discussion/comment/1036189#Comment_1036189
Usually I flag the post instead, since I've been informed in the past by Mandy that that's actually the more effective way of getting a mod's attention to move a post.
Either one works, posts like these do need to be moved to the right version of the forums that has this language is all.
It's best to @ a mod or flag the post to be moved, just so they're aware is all.
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@kurogane said:
i am taling about the "Reverent" challenge in tome 1 prologue
Than it indeed seems like a bug that could've been brought on by patch 3.5.0, but that's just speculation.
I'd just follow what Fibijean said and report it to the Bug Reports sub-forum and see if the Support Team can look into it for you so it gets completed.
[Here's the Support Team link]:
https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us
[Here's the Bug Report sub-forum link]:
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@judge_fist said:
I feel like the grind of the rift is not worth it at all for me. I can play 2 maybe 3 hours a day if I'm lucky. The work and time you must put in to complete all 4 tomes is just to much. The rewards are not worth the time spent. I do like the extra BP though that to me is all the reward I need. I just can't justify spending 10 bucks and still have to earn the rewards.
That's why the free track exists if you can't bring yourself to buy the Premium track.
And if you do buy the Premium track you make all your Auric Cells back when you complete every tier on The Rift, so you can re-use it endlessly if you can complete every Rift to Tier 70 each time.
With 70 days i'm sure even someone with 3 hours a day can complete it, for sure.
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@judge_fist said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036969#Comment_1036969
One word legend. Pulling items out of matches has been my jam lately on DBD. Thanks for the reminder lol
No problem!
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@judge_fist said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1035824#Comment_1035824
Time to stock up on firecrackers! Thanks for the info.
Make sure to get your item build out too, they should be an optional item you can grab when you search any chests in-game.
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@Kagari_Leha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1036742#Comment_1036742
well, that's the unfortunate answer i hoped the devs thought about what could happen if people already had that stuff in their inventory
whatever, it's only 1 skin so, i guess it's okay
The thing is if it did say you got extra BPs than it would tell you that in The Rift, but it doesn't.
Also, I own this cosmetic as well and it just says "owned" in The Rift, so unlocking it won't really do anything since the game already knows I own it...
Unfortunate? Yes. A big deal though? Not really. I wouldn't worry about it, perhaps you can suggest to BHVR that they should reward players who already own these skins with BPs or something.
[Here's the link to the suggestions sub-forum if you're interested]:
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Nothing special will happen.
You don't get extra blood-points in response, the cosmetic won't vanish from your inventory, it won't duplicate, it'll just be unlocked on The Rift and probably (the most likely scenario) just replace the old one you bought with the new one... but that's it.
By that I mean it'll take the spot of the already bought cosmetic, but since it's the same cosmetic it won't really change anything, it'll be as if you didn't unlock it again since it's just the same cosmetic being unlocked for the 2nd time.