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@BigTimeGamer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1013739#Comment_1013739
As far as I can see Devs have not taken an official stance on this, by “intentional” I’m referring to being able to do it at all.
Basicly what @Sairek said, it was called a "hook tech" and is indeed intended.
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@ClickyClicky said:
“try comforting babies who will quit your game with the next call of duty release anyway”
Why is everything being framed in this way? Why are people giving their 2 cents on balance always being referred to as babies and told to “git gud”.
Its getting pretty toxic. Everyone is entitled to give their opinions. The best thing you could do is give your arguments as to why whatever they’re complaining about is balanced, rather than trying to shoot down the argument and never give reasons why.
Because that is what BHVR did with the recent ruin nerf, comforting babies who are unable to hit great skillchecks.
You can explain alot about the game and try to make babies understand however, this baby will be replaced with the next one and you have to do it again. At some point people do not bother to explain anything anymore because babies you know, google is a thing.
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@CLAUDETTEINABUSH said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1012350#Comment_1012350
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1012361#Comment_1012361
Then how about my add-on? Do you like it?
No I do not like it, an addon should not remove skillcap from a killer. Don't feel offended but I think you should play billy in redranks, stop with the map offerings and understand what is the diffrence between a good billy and a bad one.
Your suggestion about "when billy misses the survivor after going there over the map" like do you even know how rare this is? How many gens are there in jungle gyms where you are simply unable to sprint into.
Billy is rewarding because a good billy will be able to curve certain loops, maybe all, i dont know. Your addon would make him a way better oni, why would anyone want to play oni with this addon? You know some people put alot of time into learning the killer and getting good with him. This is like well just equip this so everybody can be as good as you as billy.
Also it would be horrible for survivors who are unable to 360 to even attempt to play against that plus engravings.
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@CrowFoxy said:
Seriously, why is every good killer viewed as unfun and unfair. Because they can get kills? I'm not even a pure one side main, more 50/50 and basically exclusively surv lately.
I am so not shocked why killers do get nerfed in weird ways. The community asks for it!
The thing is this, ranking in this game sucks donkey balls. Potatoes get to the highest rank possible without much effort, they think they are good at the game. Now they meet some killer, get rekt, are unable to learn how to counter it and do not wanna put in the effort to learn. Thus you end up with crybabies on the forums about blablabla ghostface op, billy op, everything op, pls remove killer.
No idea why these babies even play a "horror" game seems to me they would have much more fun in hello kitty.
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@foxreinherz said:
It was already way too powerful before, but with the endgame collapse it can turn the game around in one minute. Survivors don't have enough time to look and cleanse it's totem, but they also can't risk it and try to open the gates before the killer comes, or else they risk an instant lose. It's near impossible for every survivor to escape when the killer has it equipped. I personally started taking the hit for others.
a) cleanse totems if you suck at the game
b) when you got gud, you can cleanse the totem after you see it was hit and didn't waste your time on dull totems
Literally one of the worst killer perks ever.
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@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
Are you new to BHVR? Watch the Q&A this week, the thread is chock full of important questions and they’ll be ignored for some stupid lore question or something they can use to twist the narrative.
Was the creation of oni difficult?
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@underlord99 said:
I think the biggest problem people have with billy is is extreme map pressure
Billy is the only killer that can zoom from one side of the map after hooking a survivor to the other sized to kick a gen and back to tunnel.
I expect this to be even stronger with the new ruin coming out.
(in no way am I calling for billy to be gutted I am just stating as to why I think some people have a problem with him so please dont storm my house with your torches and pick forks)
Didnt you make a thread about billy already? You too act as if all maps are not filled with obstacles inbetween, billy can not zip across the map the entire time. People who do struggle against billy are people who make lots of mistakes because that is what billy capitalizes on.
Stop spamming your issue and making 3-4 bad survivors into something survivors or people actually have a problem with.
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Why do people act like instasaw does exist? It is nowhere near instant lmao..
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@sorrowen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1005684#Comment_1005684
They won't get good data even with ruin gone because of survivor perks an toolboxes. That excuse from Peanits never made any sense either.
Not only due to that but because ranking is so dumb in this game. It has nothing to with whether you are actually good at the game and so all the stats in it will be useless for the most part.
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Get good at looping.
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@ClickyClicky said:
The “most balanced killer” was just something that got parroted around and spread enough times that people started to assume it was true. I’ve certainly never thought that.
Billy was generally number 2 on most tier lists before Spirit with a minority putting him at 1.
For quite a while he was still number 2 and it was only in 2019 when the Spirit fad started that people began putting her above Billy consistently in tier lists, but again people tend to follow the trends they see online. I personally would have always put Billy above Spirit.
To say its a recent thing is not true. The Billy controversy has raged for a long time now across the dbd fanverse. If anything it was the Spirit hate that came out of nowhere because nobody had an issue with her until last summer deapite the fact she had been that way for half a year. Again people tend to parrot what they hear online. Although to be fair what probably triggered a lot of that was that Spirit got VERY popular and seeing the same killer game after game would tilt anyone.
I have a different take on Billy. It was only when I truly got good at the game that I started to feel like Billy was cheap BS. He felt cheap as survivor being able to cross the map back and forth in seconds, and as killer changing from killers like Clown, Pig and Trapper to a guy who could instadown one survivor, sprint across the entire map in 5 seconds and then instadown another before they had even unhooked the first guy....it felt like I was playing with hacks. Or at least an unlockable boss character like in a fighting game. Thats why I’e never enjoyed Hillbilly because he never felt rewarding in my opinion.
lmao are you on pc in eu?
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@Hoodied said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1012318#Comment_1012318
Just trying to be positive :/
All good. Just pointing out that probably most people do not care what happens in other games as they do not play it.
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@NDwight88 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/121640/where-did-all-the-spirits-go
Well she used to be easy to 4K with since she was so op. Once people realized they’d have to put in time now to get good with her, they moved to other easy 4K killers like Fred and billy.
So since billy is so ez to 4k with... why didn't you accept the challenge and upload the videos that another forum user posted earlier?
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@CLAUDETTEINABUSH said:
So,since Billy will probably have his add-ons altered I had two great ideas in order to balance him. Please bear with me.
A nerf idea; put a cooldown on his chainsaw,pretty much like the nurse. In corn maps he can cross the entire map in a matter of seconds. So with the cooldown,he will use his chainsaw to get to a gen,and he will be forced to m1 if he misses the survivor. Not that big of a cooldown addition tho,like 5 seconds,maybe the longer you chainsaw Sprint, the more cooldown it has.
If you don't agree with the cooldown on his base kit,how about in a red add-on?
Hillbilly cannot be stunned by hitting in a wall while he chainsaws (like oni) but he has a cooldown each time he uses his chainsaw.
What do you think? Let me know down below.
Keep the conversation civil tho
No to everything.
Billy is fine as is, he can only zip on few maps around and you get alerted way before his arrival. Billy capitalizes only on survivor mistakes and each survivor can make at least 2 of those.
If you know how to loop, billy is not an issue. Maybe ask the devs so they make it that you just have to hold w in order to loop efficiently?
Furthermore your change would make him even more horrible on maps such as lerys or game. Billy has already a cd on his chainsaw, which is why there are cooldown reducing addons, the more you know.
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I love this logic, it is like do not worry about poison in your food when in other parts of the world people do starve.
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Wait for devs to fix her, she is currently bugged in so many ways that I do not think it is worth playing her. Not gonna happen in the next patch, oni map still an almost complete deadzone, blink bug still existing. For once bhvr could fix the mess they made but guess you can wait for the next dlc to drop.
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@Apple2o said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011903#Comment_1011903
I have people DC against me in maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of my matches, depending on what killer I am playing. I have already shown you enough proof. I am done wasting my time arguing with you.
I never cared whether you are a rank 1 or not, it was just about depip squad that interested me, nothing else.
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@Apple2o said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011894#Comment_1011894
Yeah, I just linked a rank 1 SWF absolutely raging at my gameplay style because it doesn't make people DC ever.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/378/3302UO9M09Z4.png
Here you go. For the record, I was the guy who originally tombstoned monto to make him make the "tombstoned" video in the first place. Back before anyone even realized how BS play with your food tombstone really even was.
You have a really hard time reading do you?
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@Apple2o said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011725#Comment_1011725
That was like 2 years ago, and it's not like I record my gameplay. I don't even think the marth88 depip squad exists anymore. I have posted plenty of screenshots on this forum to prove I am rank 1. Most of my clips are just me playing against streamers.
I am not reading your wall of text because I know at the end of the day, it was just a low key ruin nerf complaint. I don't even play with ruin most of the times, so I could care less if it gets nerfed.
Here's one of me dumpstering a rank 1 SWF. I still play against the ID SWF's and win most of the time, who is the main SWF squad that is worth anything at the moment.
Yeah so i doubt it did happen. Sorry pic or it didn't happen. You don't need to post me links to badies or a 30second clip idc for that, you stated you made depipsquad dc which i doubt.
I didn't even start the thread so it is not my wall of text. Maybe you should leave the forums when you are not willing to read, seems to me you do not know why a forum exists in the first place. Perhaps a blog suits you better?
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Her or Spirit
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@Apple2o said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1008740#Comment_1008740
Considering 90% of the threads are killers complaining about the ruin nerf, can you really blame me? I need a TL;DR for that wall of text.
Balancing around new players makes more money. The hardcore vets are a very small percentage of the player base. That's the reason for these changes.
Nobody is obligated to give you a TL;DR just because you can not be bothered to read a post, if you do not read it, stop commenting on it.
BTW where is your video where depip squads disconnects against you when you play tombstone myers? Still waiting 🤗
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@PapiQuentin_ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011358#Comment_1011358
DL gets up to 9 stacks.
Each stack gives survivors 3% penalty to Repair, Healing and Sabotage
3X9= 27%
But yeah "DL does nothing"
Okay. When you have 27% what do you affect with it?
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I like the "oh no not the screen recording" 😂
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Watch him being gutted soon.
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The purpose of the perk is that survivors can have complete info on the killer in swf. Also teabagging, always.
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@PapiQuentin_ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1010712#Comment_1010712
I play killer at red ranks and do just fine.
I main Freddy, Oni and Clown.
I use DL on em all and do well.
My build on em all atm is
DL
BBQ
Pop
Corrupt.
Oh and I have more fun playing killer than survivor thank you.
Killer isn't as stressful as you all may think
DL is literally garbage, even with full stacks it does so little. Keep bashing the noobs, no worries there are plenty coming since everybody can play in redranks these days.
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Did a couple of matches yesterday with friends took us round about 10min to find a match and half of the time it was against noobs (yellow rank). Yeah fun is something else, i think we quit after 4-5 matches.
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@MysterTal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011138#Comment_1011138
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011143#Comment_1011143
A better solution would be a larger sample size across all Ranks.
I don't think so just because people die because they have no clue what to do, doesn't mean there should be changes due to that. In red ranks the chance is higher to have people playing who actually know what they are doing.
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@konchok said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011138#Comment_1011138
Does balance only exist in the red ranks?
No but most skilled people reside there, the chances there to find skilled people are actually higher compared to other ranks. Who cares about a 4k when the survivors are braindead? Nobody.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011115#Comment_1011115
So you looped a rank 15 who you say had no idea how to use his chainsaw and was bad at mindgames?
Oh, well that proves Hillbilly is perfectly balanced then.
Yeah cause that one noob said he can have ez pz 4k, which is not true. If the survivors are braindead any game will result in a 4k. Has nothing to do with billy being unbalanced at all.
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You literally forgot to add, has to be red rank killer so not all matches go against complete potatoes and maybe there are some good survivors.
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@CLAUDETTEINABUSH said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011067#Comment_1011067
True,he sucks at the game at lerys and the lab,but still I would prefer a cooldown on his chainsaw since whenever I play Billy,I always ALWAYS put a rotten fields map offering of some kind. And tbh,even without the offerings,I rarely play and see billies on all those 3 maps.
Billy capitalizes on survivors mistakes. You are allowed to ######### up twice, each, given that, it is ok.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1011031#Comment_1011031
It really doesn't help your argument when everyone else is giving reasons as to what they think but so far everyone in defense of Billy have just said some variant of "you're bad" "you suck" "git gud". It's not a very compelling argument.
@NDwight88 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1010114#Comment_1010114
Plus you missed my point love. I said a rank 18 billy can get a 4K against rank 5-9 survivors easily, or did you miss that point before you began rapidly typing out your salty little reply? Read the whole thing next time so YOU don’t look stupid. Tootles
What points have been made? I don't see any all I see are baddies making up stuff because they are bad at the game. I looped at a rank 15 billy yesterday forever because he had no clue how to use his chainsaw and was bad at mindgames.
It is just madeup nonsense from baddies such as that guy.
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@CLAUDETTEINABUSH said:
He is simply the strongest killer. Every killer with loads of ms have to wait a cooldown to use it or just do a task first (Oni,Freddy,demi)
So I suggest just adding a cooldown to keep down his looping. Like "I just chainsawed across the entire map,tho I can't use it to loop now. Gotta m1)
Maybe you actually play billy, you act as if every map is rotten fields when in reality most maps are cluttered with obstacles that billy can not pass through.
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Imagine how bad you have to be to complain about billy.
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4% of owners have r1 survivor achievement
2,3% of owners have r1 killer achievement
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@csandman1977 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1008503#Comment_1008503
Actually only 45% of killers used it. The 80% was specifically red ranks.
I was talking about red ranks thus the 80%
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How can you fix matchmaking when even ranking is flawed? this game lul
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1009202#Comment_1009202
It's like the devs are TRYING to stop their game from being balanced.
No i just think it is quite shortsighted, i think it is a big problem that ranking is flawed. Do you know another game where everybody thinks they are at the top of skill because lots of people are in red ranks?
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1009190#Comment_1009190
Yes I realize this. What do you mean to relate this fact to?
Killers coming out on top ofc.
The balance discussion is so difficult because ranking is flawed. People are ranked higher than they belong and so on.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
Goodbye, see you next week.
Why do you think he will be back next week?
You should check out how many owners this game has, and why they do not stay in the game. Lots of people quit this game on steam alone.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1009128#Comment_1009128
That's still not enough for over 33%. I can't wait for the reaction when killers still come out on top after Ruin changes.
You do realize that many survivors are just boosted and red ranks dont mean skilled? The ranking system is flawed badly, this is the reason why people do not like to play solo.
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I love how people tend to generalize something and act as if T&C, TOA or whatever are above the law. Not even bother to ask where the person is from.
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@PapiQuentin_ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1008443#Comment_1008443
There are plenty of killers that don't use Ruin that win a lot in Red ranks.
You'll still get your good and bad games but please try before judging Ruin. I've switched from Ruin to Corrupt and I'm doing just fine
Define plenty please. 80% did use it. Somehow we only have people here that claim they played for ages without ruin and all but yeah.. must be those 20% here.
I am sure you can do an estimate of how many there are.
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@PapiQuentin_ said:
Because killers are being childish and not learning how to play without Ruin.
Shame
The irony is rich coming from somebody who refused to learn how to hit a great skillcheck.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Things in Onlinegames can change. You dont have any right to get a refund.
🤣
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Glad that you like legion.
I mean there are people in the world who pay other in order to lick their boots. Everybody enjoys diffrent stuff i guess.
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You know tunneling is frustrating when you are new to the game cause you do not know how to deal with it. You can however expect that when the next patch goes live that this is going to be default for every killer, make the weakest link go first in order to have pressure on the survivors.
Another point why this ruin change will not help new players in the slightest.
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I also have lots of people who +rep me when i play killer. I think it is about 50/50 for me.