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I'm serious. This is the only thing which is giving me huge laughs sometimes. We had the same gamemode for nearly 3 years, it's getting boring if you only play to play the game.rafajsp said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
For the rage quits and salty messages. Without these I would take huge breaks from it.lol
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Yep Exactly, but this will only work with swf. Solo's are mostly stupid greedy 4heads feeding the killer with the vessels and at the end noone will get progress but the killerBongbingbing said:Is it true you'll need 4,500 points to get all 3 outfits? If so as much as I hate to say but rush the gens and try go for a vessel if you can at the end...
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Knowing survivor spawns as Killer is part of beeing able to combat coordinated SWF groups. Time efficiency is important. Try to run next time. Never understood why people urban crouch in the first seconds after spawning...
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Its pretty stupid that you lose the vessel if the killer DC's, so something similar could happen if a survivor DCs while holding a vessel
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For the rage quits and salty messages. Without these I would take huge breaks from it.
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Copy pasting my previous post to that:powerbats said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
BACKSTABBER said:@Bug_Reporter said:
I confirmed by his achievements, i need a mod...
what should you do? dont u have empathy for an human (hacker) being?
I would not report, just let him have fun with hacks
My principal is like this: as long as it doesn't ruin my or others fun Idc
If they're legacy hacking they';re almost always hacking bp and items/addons as well so they're ruining yours and others fun then.
"Idk tbh, I verse moris and the strongest addons, insta heals, flashlights and keys so frequently at red ranks that it doesn't matter for me at least. But I see where you are coming from." -
This event is again anti solo Q. I would have liked it more if it doesn't matter you carried it out or your mate. So ultimately, if someone takes out the "event objective" to the exit every survivor (who escaped aswell) gets rewarded. Would be much better to play as a team in solo Q.
So either Killer, or SWF or beeing a selfish egoistic bastard in solo Q. Normal Solo Q seems to be impossible. -
Sigh, slowly the frustration is taking over the fun.Weederick said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Weederick said:This was a bug since release. I dont think they can fix it or it was never on their list.
Billy main?
You surely know how frustrating it is when you completely outplay a survivor on a strong structure like jungle gym but the chainsaw stops. It really triggers me, sometimes I'm on the edge to DC if it happens multiple times in the same match.Yes, it sucks hard. I wish they would fix it, but after 2,5y i would give it up.
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Billy main?Weederick said:This was a bug since release. I dont think they can fix it or it was never on their list.
You surely know how frustrating it is when you completely outplay a survivor on a strong structure like jungle gym but the chainsaw stops. It really triggers me, sometimes I'm on the edge to DC if it happens multiple times in the same match. -
How do you want to know that Franklins will affect this?kazzymoyashi said:
No, they won't. Killers are supposed to destroy the things that survivors need to survive and escape with. Franklin's is going to make this event impossible. Let's not forget, we had killer lobby issues last time and it was HARDER for killers to get their vials... imagine how it's going to be now in which 90% of survivors are going to switch over, at least on xbox.Shad03 said:It honestly looks like survivors will have it easier around this time. I was just BARELY getting my vials filled as a killer when I was up against the teams that had drained the plants quickly. I dunno, let's see how this event rolls out first before you scream that it's gonna end up bad.
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Why no statements about that @devs?
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If the shrine wouldn't exist we had a clear and obvious pay2win game. And hopefully you are aware that pay2win mechanics in games are for me and many others reason number 1 not to buy the game in the first place. With the shrine we have a less obvious pay2win mechanic aka "just wait till it appears" but in reality you can wait till you die so you give up and buy the DLC to get access to the perks you need.Orion said:@mimzy630 said:
@Orion said:
Your analysis doesn't take into account the fact that new perks are entered into the pool on a fairly regular basis, and that the perks from the base game, having been there the longest, will show a higher frequency.Huh? Did you read it? I go Period by Period, analyzing each one with the number of teachable perks in it and the chance for that specific amount of time to have teachable perks. I know perks that have been there longer will have a higher frequency. Duh. Please, go over the numbers again. I made very sure to keep all the percentages correct, and to account to change over time.
Regarding BBQ, Bubba is a pretty old killer. I can't compare his perks to other per-se, but I can at least show the anomaly that is BBQ. Thank you for commenting, but please, do read my numbers.
I will say, however, that this is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. If the devs wanted to force the players' hands by making DLC perks inaccessible, they could've just not made the Shrine of Secrets in the first place.
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You don't know if it's random or not. BHVR has the ultimate knowledge behind the shrine system. We are just assuming things and it's more than suspicious that especially the perk BBQ, the number 1 selling point for buying Leatherface doesn't appear.Orion said:@mimzy630 said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
I have absolutely the feeling aswell that the shrine is rigged, thanks for the statistics to make it even clear.To everyone who says "but it's RNG, you don't know what RNG is" at least have the balls then and admit that the shrine is busted and needs rework so locking meta perks like BBQ behind a paywall for over 1 year doesn't happen.
Err, I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd rather random "fair" than a fixed "fair" (i.e., force BBQ on Shrine yearly isn't random).
No, you wouldn't.
Random is what we have now, but because you don't understand probability (standard deviation, confidence interval, the difference between a set average and an expected value, the law of large numbers - just to name a few), you've falsely concluded it's rigged.
Were it pseudo-random, to compensate for the inherent, well, randomness of RNG, it'd artificially increase the probability of perks that have appeared less on the Shrine, in order to seem more fair, thus giving you the result that feels more natural and intuitive - the result that you want.
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That wasn't my questionweirdkid5 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
EntityDispleased said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
BACKSTABBER said:
@Bug_Reporter said: I confirmed by his achievements, i need a mod... what should you do? dont u have empathy for an human (hacker) being? I would not report, just let him have fun with hacks
My principal is like this: as long as it doesn't ruin my or others fun Idc
Achievement hackers aren't hurting anyone either, but they get VAC banned either way.
Really? That's such a waste of time to hunt achievement hackers lol, who cares about others achievements?
Cheating in a multiplayer video game of any kind should be punished.
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Idk tbh, I verse moris and the strongest addons, insta heals, flashlights and keys so frequently at red ranks that it doesn't matter for me at least. But I see where you are coming from.PiiFree said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Really? That's such a waste of time to hunt achievement hackers lol, who cares about others achievements?Achievement hacks and Legacy hacks are the result of hacked safefiles. It's safe to assume that those players also hacked the lesser obvious things like items and bloodpoints while they were at it, which has a big impact.
Unless you think an endless amount of items, add-ons and offerings have no impact?
And if we're honest, no one likes hackers, doesn't matter how far they went. Do it the legit way or get banned.
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Ugly.
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Really? That's such a waste of time to hunt achievement hackers lol, who cares about others achievements?EntityDispleased said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
BACKSTABBER said:@Bug_Reporter said:
I confirmed by his achievements, i need a mod...
what should you do? dont u have empathy for an human (hacker) being?
I would not report, just let him have fun with hacks
My principal is like this: as long as it doesn't ruin my or others fun Idc
Achievement hackers aren't hurting anyone either, but they get VAC banned either way.
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hmm it's a weird one because you actually don't make it easier because you don't have these informations as solo player in the first place, no matter what and how good you are.weirdkid5 said:Please no don't make this game any easier for me.
And since these changes will have 0 impact on how much stringer swf groups will be I see no harm in these to give solos a buff. Obviously after that we can do overall survivor nerfs without completely stomping solos (aka second objectives).
That's just my opinion, what do you think about my thoughts?
Defenetly, 100% either killer buffs or simply overall survivor nerfs for example with a second objective as we all know how fast gens get pumped.Tsulan said:I assume that after these important survivor buffs, killers get heavily buffed. -
I made the suggestion about the entity legs in the HUD a while ago. U can't imagine how mad people went. Kept using the argument "how can I know who the obsession DS is?“ while I made it very clear that the obsession DS will have a different colour for the entity legs in the HUD.
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My principal is like this: as long as it doesn't ruin my or others fun IdcBACKSTABBER said:@Bug_Reporter said:
I confirmed by his achievements, i need a mod...what should you do? dont u have empathy for an human (hacker) being?
I would not report, just let him have fun with hacks
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I have absolutely the feeling aswell that the shrine is rigged, thanks for the statistics to make it even clear.
To everyone who says "but it's RNG, you don't know what RNG is" at least have the balls then and admit that the shrine is busted and needs rework so locking meta perks like BBQ behind a paywall for over 1 year doesn't happen. -
guys this needs to be always the first reply if someone asks for nurse nerfs:
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I'm surprised that people care so much about others legacy skin. I mean, it's not like that they have used speedhack or similar and destroyed your match lol
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What exactly is ruin? Do you mean that useless perk that gets destroyed withing 20 seconds? Or that useless perk which survivors can counter by simply hitting the skillchecks??JoannaVO said:@Unnamed_Freak said:
It just surprises me that there's people who defend all gens being done under 4 minutes. Like, that's absolute bulllshit, it should never happen.Then use ruin, simple as that.
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Link?DarkWo1f997 said:
I’ve got 5 minutes of footage of the guy making a fool out of me. Looking back it I realize what I did wrong, but he was so on top of his predictions of my movement that he was so hard to catch. I did catch him twice though.Arroz said:@DarkWo1f997 said:
While I still pipped in both matches and got 30k BP each, this guy was looping me as legion in autohaven and cold wind farm. He never dropped pallets and instead just ran me around jungle gyms, my power couldn’t even last long enough to keep up with and reach him.I’ve been 4k almost every game and this was the first time I’d ever felt so hopeless as the killer in such a long time. People say there’s no counter play to legion, but this guy was insanely good. He’d just run me around the pallets and somehow managed to loop me in killer shack.
Never been wrecked this hard in dead by daylight since my early days. Makes me wonder how long until everyone else figures out his weakness.
I don’t know how the hell this guy was so damn good at distracting a legion, it really goes to show that some people really know what they are doing.
Uh, do you have proof, or you just are a legion main and dont want to frank's mixtape get nerfed? And if it's true Congrats to that survivor..
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What do you mean with cherrypicking? I don't record my own gameplay, obviously I will use others gameplay to show the issue of DbD. And since tru3 is well known in the community and the devs had special connection with him back then in 2016 his name probably the best choice to get attention to this.powerbats said:@PiiFree said:
@Vietfox said:
I've seen Umbra_bug, she's a beast with the huntress. She gets 3-4K in almost every match, 2K when survivors are good.
It's funny how people use Tru3's video as an example of poor balance, i guess we gotta balance the game around killers without perks and addons, what could go wrong when using perks and addons?
It's funny that you always pick the top killer streamers to justify balance.
Let's take a look at No0b3, who just managed to get 50 escapes in a row. Let's also not forget all the other Survivor streamers with escape rates of 80% and higher.
It's simple to look at streamers that made it their job to play Dead By Daylight and use them as a reference for balance when you watch them stomping casuals.
Have you ever watched streamers play against each other? Whenever I see that, they play like pussies because they don't want to destroy and embarass the other streamer.
It appears to me that most players in this community simply never played in a coordinated SWF. If they did, they would have realized how broken it is.
It's funny you'd use that argument since most of the killer mains on here cherry pick their top streamers like Tru's videos.
As if people would even bother to take a look if the title had the name "xXgenericNamexX got genrushed as Nurse.."
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Disgusting
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Yep, it's a pattern only fanboys don't want to see. Either it's a useful perk but everyone has access to it anyway or a trash perk everyone has access to or of a dlc. And they "spawn" every week in the shrine. The actual meta perks are just not poppingVortexas said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
DocOctober said:
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DocOctober said:How about you just buy the DLC and shut up with the incessant complaint?
Calm down bud. It's not about "just buying" the DLC, it's about the principal.
Also he owns Leatherface already, you r attacking a straw manWhat principal?
The Shrine is RNG, no matter how often tinhat Bubba's try to claim otherwise.
The principal of not to support such a bad system which is Indirectly forcing you to pay money for accessing perks, especially meta perks like BBQ. Pay2win in other words.
I'd like to point out how often We're Going to Live Forever has popped up in comparison.
Its pretty bad.
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Lmao do you really use rank to validate it's high level play? Sure bud, every high skill player runs into the open like that David in the video instead to pallets. Stop lying to yourself, you know it's bullshit.twistedmonkey said:
This is rank 3 play so high level in terms of the game, it's just as valid as tru being high level but keep your head in the sand and only see what you want as it suits your argument.DwightsLifeMatters said:Everyone can upload how they stomp potatoes. This doesn't proof anything. We are discussing high level play here.
That's the thing you fail to realise for every great team there are thousands which aren't just like killers, now if you posting your own video of a few hours of high lvl play where you constantly get gen rushed that would be something but I feel you wouldn't as it would show you just need to get better and stop trying to blame the game for all your mistakes.
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The principal of not to support such a bad system which is Indirectly forcing you to pay money for accessing perks, especially meta perks like BBQ. Pay2win in other words.DocOctober said:
What principal?DwightsLifeMatters said:
Calm down bud. It's not about "just buying" the DLC, it's about the principal.DocOctober said:How about you just buy the DLC and shut up with the incessant complaint?
Also he owns Leatherface already, you r attacking a straw man
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Everyone can upload how they stomp potatoes. This doesn't proof anything. We are discussing high level play here.twistedmonkey said:
https://youtu.be/ybIJQNAL7Q0
Easy 4k trapper rank 3, 3 dead in under 3 mins, trapper OP? There are more on YouTube just search easy 4k, spirit 4k in under 2 mins made me laugh.
These are all just as valid to as Tru's as none of these are the norm and that's the issue no one seems to realise when posting these, anyone can take a few video's out of thousands of games and scream unfair, there is a difference between what can happen and what does.
Some ways to try and sort out high ranks is to make it harder to pip (been tried and it made killer queues stupidly long), add more objectives the more you rank up which would mean no deranking as it would be too easy to not go there.but how many would just not go there is the issue.
Personally there should be more objectives imo but the way the devs have been wanting to shorten chases and adding all the aura perks I personally can't see this happening as chases would need to be longer, you also have to consider the length of a game as some already go 8-15 mins so how long would these then turn out to be?
It could make it do objective and get out which some find boring so could it affect numbers of players?
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Ofc he would, ochido and jen are not that good from what I have seen. Both derankers to bully the newbies btwScottJund said:
If Zubat used omegablink they would lose almost every single time, guaranteedPiiFree said:@Vietfox said:
Actually most of the people who said game should be balanced around good player are killer mains.As far as i know many survivor streamers are derankers, so i would say that doesn't count. And even if it did, it's just one survivor escaping, what about the other 3?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
If you match 5000 hours against casuals with <500 hours, we all know what's going to happen.
Now let for example Zubat play against JenDenise, Ochido, No0b3 and whatever they're all called and see what happens. That's "high skilled". And if you balance around high skilled, you gotta make sure that they're actually skilled and not just some boosted Rank 1 scrubs like the majority of this community.
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Yet prove thyself got buffed for faster gens. Yeah, I have hope they fix genrush lolGrim said:I fail to see the point in this entire thread. BHVR are fully aware of how quick gens can be done and are looking to implement fixes. Continuously reminding them doesn't solve anything.
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Your argument got refuted before, take a look into earlier postsSlayer said:He could keep pressure at the end when last gen left to fix and he would do fine and he took ds he didnt even try to counter it and he s not really good as nurse. Gen rush is intented. Some killers just simply cant pressure gens
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What is NASCAR feeling?Tsulan said:Incentives to play on rank 1:
- shorter matches
- NASCAR feeling
- free laser eye surgery
- hour long teabagging
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Scott confirmed himself he was nitpicking. Furthermore, even with the bad blinks tru3 downed them faster than anyone could do with another killer than Nurse, even if played perfectly. Activate your brain, you r missing the point.powerbats said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
You are missing one point: Marth88's depip squad was perkless and addonless aswell. The difference: they didn't call it challenge cuz it was still ez to stomp nearly every killer.
These two sides just confirm how unbalanced it is. Period.Oh good grief just stop all of you with the depip squad experiment as an example that was flawed and biased from the start and was over a year ago. The game has massively changed since then so just stop using that as an example of balance.
Also Tru screwed up plain and simple and @ScottJund pointed out all the mistakes all ready so all of you need to stop defending and or using hm as an example.
I'd rather use Monto, Zubat etc as examples and if you want 4k madness then go watch Umbra_bug destroy with ease every game.
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Perk description > balance decisions.TheMidnightRidr said:The perk quotes, "If you don't save them, you have blood on your hands. If you do, then her hunger grows" or something like that. Her "hunger" only grows if they're saved, so that's the way it should be.
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Lol yeah. And the cosmetics.Master said:Only DLCs generate money
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Something got messed up with quoting. I wasn't quoting you but someone else. Sorry for the confusion. I edited it so it should be correct now. Take a look so you know to what I was referringTsulan said:
Not missing anything. I know that it's easy to reach rank 1 survivor without perks.DwightsLifeMatters said:
You are missing one point: Marth88's depip squad was perkless and addonless aswell. The difference: they didn't call it challenge cuz it was still ez to stomp nearly every killer.JammyJewels said:Anyone else remembering that he suffered because he was willingly doing a challenge? Anyone else remember that he chose to do the challenge? If he was gen rushed by survivors who were using perks and items and all of the tools at their disposal then it is merely a case of Tru3 intentionally restricting himself. With perks Tru3 is incredibly consistent in being seen as a great killer main who doesn’t camp and use other tactics that are deemed as unsportsmanlike. But you can’t look at this and go ”Oh yeah, killers are underpowered with no add-ons/perks!”
Of course they’re underpowered without add-ons or perks! That’s why perks and add-ons exist. Not only to give variety but to power them up! Of course Tru3 was gen rushed as he didn’t power himself with perks. But again, this was a challenge he willingly handicapped himself to try and beat, like beating Dark Souls at Level 1. He couldn’t beat the challenge... and it’s fine. I know assuredly he’ll do excellent once he returns to normal gameplay. If he is still easily beaten when playing optimally in terms of build, gameplay or etc... then we can have a discussion thread where we can validly say the side he played was underpowered.Tsulan said:
He doubted about picking up the obsession. He probably thought about slugging. No big mistake there.DwightsLifeMatters said:
They balance around rank 1. But around the boosted rank 1's lol.Tsulan said:
Because they balance around rank 20.Thaznar said:Devs will never change genrush meta for survivors because they are:
a) clueless
b) lazy
So stupid. Whenever you show those crap people come with argument "but not everyone plays like this"
Yet they don't understand that it doesn't matter if 1% or 99% play like this. Balancing doesn't work around how players usually play.
What's your opinion about the match @Tsulan? Did you noticed any major mistakes made here or not like me?
He could have let claudette on the floor instead of killing her, trying to lure someone out. But that's risky without deerstalker or nurses calling. Especially since he didn't knew where the hatch was.
He chose the save 2k instead of risking getting only a 1k.
Nurse doesn't need addons or perks as much as other killers. So there wouldn't have been much of a difference anyway.
If survivors want to gen rush, there is no stopping them. No killer can chase 4 people at the same time.
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Calm down bud. It's not about "just buying" the DLC, it's about the principal.DocOctober said:How about you just buy the DLC and shut up with the incessant complaint?
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I think unless you play nurse to down survivors quick you will have a hard time doing the second objective as killer.Tsulan said:Is it just me or does this seem terribly favored towards survivors?
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Yep can stand behind this. Especially with the high risk of hex totems getting destroyed before u get even 1 single token lol
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You are missing one point: Marth88's depip squad was perkless and addonless aswell. The difference: they didn't call it challenge cuz it was still ez to stomp nearly every killer.JammyJewels said:Anyone else remembering that he suffered because he was willingly doing a challenge? Anyone else remember that he chose to do the challenge? If he was gen rushed by survivors who were using perks and items and all of the tools at their disposal then it is merely a case of Tru3 intentionally restricting himself. With perks Tru3 is incredibly consistent in being seen as a great killer main who doesn’t camp and use other tactics that are deemed as unsportsmanlike. But you can’t look at this and go ”Oh yeah, killers are underpowered with no add-ons/perks!”
Of course they’re underpowered without add-ons or perks! That’s why perks and add-ons exist. Not only to give variety but to power them up! Of course Tru3 was gen rushed as he didn’t power himself with perks. But again, this was a challenge he willingly handicapped himself to try and beat, like beating Dark Souls at Level 1. He couldn’t beat the challenge... and it’s fine. I know assuredly he’ll do excellent once he returns to normal gameplay. If he is still easily beaten when playing optimally in terms of build, gameplay or etc... then we can have a discussion thread where we can validly say the side he played was underpowered.
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Exactly. But people try to compare both perks with eachother but they don't get that it's not about comparing both, it's about removing unfun stuff. Whatever, 2019 and still nothing changed. I'm losing hope tbh.Funbag5 said:Noed and DS should just get removed -
Only this.Dspigroach said:If it ain't Dwight it ain't right -
Yep I completely took out selfcare of my usual survivor builds. I just keep Genrushing and adrenalin will fix it. And if I get chased/tunneled even better. Countless rage quits after adrenalin kicks in and they can't catch me.Vietfox said:
Thank you, that's what i do, even if they are not running sloppy ^^@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Sloppy: optimal survivors don't selfcare against sloppy, they keep pumping gens they had adrenalin aswell so no point.Jack11803 said:tt_ivi_99 said:
To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.
That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.
Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.
And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.
Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.
Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.
You’re just uninspired
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I cant argue against that cuz I don't watch his streams either so you can be right about that. But at least he shows some matches where he gets stomped.ScottJund said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
ScottJund said:Why do people keep posting tru3, specifically for these examples?
Cuz he verses those survivors and has no issue to upload that on YouTube. I don't watch your streams but I follow your YouTube channel. But all I see from your YouTube channel is how you stomp potatoe survivors. It's not about the person tru3, it's about the gameplay. If you or someone else had same content I would have linked that aswell here.
Also a response to your tru3 fanboy nonsense @powerbats
He also doesn't even upload half of his matches that make him look bad. I watched him two days ago hook one guy with Nurse on farm the entire game, all while calling the survivors "terrible." He was downright rude to people playing better than him.
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Bring actual examples. Otherwise you are just talkingSinner said:truetalent says the stupidest ######### ever, I watch him all the time when I need a laugh. He does have a deceitful way of talking to make you think what he is saying is actually tru3, but it isn't. Don't listen to him, think for yourselves.
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Did I claim that this was perfect nurse gameplay? Unless you don't bring up this argument against me you are attacking a straw man.ScottJund said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
ScottJund said:Why do people keep posting tru3, specifically for these examples?
Cuz he verses those survivors and has no issue to upload that on YouTube. I don't watch your streams but I follow your YouTube channel. But all I see from your YouTube channel is how you stomp potatoe survivors. It's not about the person tru3, it's about the gameplay. If you or someone else had same content I would have linked that aswell here.
Also a response to your tru3 fanboy nonsense @powerbats
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
ScottJund said:Sigh okay let's do this yet again.
0:28: bad blink, swung nowhere near the survivor.
0:34: bad blink, but survivor screws up
1:12: eats the decisive instead of slugging
1:40-2:00: wastes time checking absolutely no area of the map, instead blinking back and forth around the hooked guy
2:05: wastes time kicking a generator with less than 5% progress, while the person gets unhooked
2:25: bad blink
3:22: tries to tunnel the dude off the hook, giving him BT.
3:28: picks up the guy he just tunneled instead of going for the Claudette literally 10 meters away
4:00: bad blink
Then the gates get opened.
Looks like again, like he just made several mistakes and didn't pressure the map whatsoever. I don't know why people keep using tru3 as an example here. His Nurse isn't even that amazing. You throw a better Nurse at this scenario and I guarantee they do better. Would they 4k? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. The gens would have lasted way longer though.
I understand getting like Haddonfield or Lery's, or a giant map, but Ironworks is a great map for Nurse too. He could have done better.
He literally never even left like 25% of the map the entire game. He just stayed in one corner and then doesn't understand how the generators not in that corner of the map got finished???
0:28: bad blink, swung nowhere near the survivor.
- Wow, ONE bad blink. Equivalent like a pallet stun or loop I guess.
0:34: bad blink, but survivor screws up
- So it doesn't matter. Why you bring this up?
1:12: eats the decisive instead of slugging
- Slugging to go for who? Searching someone? Slugging without seeing anyone around can isn't always a good decision. Worst case: Survivors hide, DS guy gets picked up and he won nothing.
1:40-2:00: wastes time checking absolutely no area of the map, instead blinking back and forth around the hooked guy
- what do you mean wasting time checking no area? He checked 3 gens around the hook, he was trying to go for a solid 3 gen strat I assume. And even if he had blinked to a gen further away, didn't you see that another gen popped? Would have been for nothing.
2:05: wastes time kicking a generator with less than 5% progress, while the person gets unhooked
- what do you mean? Not kicking and starring at the hooked guy is the better solution? Don't Really get the complain combined with "while unhooked"
2:25: bad blink
- Wow, TWO bad blinks. Equivalent to 2 pallet stuns or window loop. Not worth to mention.
3:22: tries to tunnel the dude off the hook, giving him BT.
- He got downed quick, why you mention this as a mistake? It payed off
3:28: picks up the guy he just tunneled instead of going for the Claudette literally 10 meters away.
- I agree, but to be fair that claudette could be gone and hard to find against because of BT. WIthout BT it would be easy to slug and chase claudette. Also one gen left. The risk of adrenaline (and he had adrenalin if I remember correctly) would have nullified the slugging anyway.
4:00: bad blink
- So 3 bad blinks in total, right? How many pallets do you eat as a normal Kilker? How long does a chase usually take against good loppers? He was still downing them quick. Imagine this match with another killer than Nurse. It would be impossible -> gen speed unbalanced.
You are really nitpicking.
Yes, the entire point is nitpicking. The argument people are making is basically "This person played perfectly with the best killer in the game and still couldn't stop the gen rush!" when in reality he played nowhere near perfectly and would have held the generators off far longer if he played better. Thus, in this scenario, gen rushing is a symptom of playing bad and ignoring literally 75% of the map.
There are obvious exceptions when there is just nothing you can do. His Doctor game is a good example. Its pretty unlikely anybody would win in that situation, even though he made numerous mistakes.
You don't really have as much of an excuse with Nurse, on a great Nurse map to boot.
Also the only reason the guy with BT was "downed fast" is because he gave up because he was thinking "Oh good I'm being tunneled by a [BAD WORD] Nurse funnnnnn"
Furthermore, you know better than me that you have to read the survivor during a chase. You can't guess every movement and every juke perfectly in every single match.
Meanwhile if you go with your logic: The strongest killer in the game has to play absolutely perfectly to stand a chance to win against survivors who are just optimal with gens (aka holding M1) and do stupid mistakes?
So how would it be if the survivors don't do mistakes and you play nurse perfectly? A lose again or not. And keep in mind that any other killer is weaker than Nurse.