Moonrise Lunar Event Issue

kazzymoyashi

Hello devs and fellow People of the Fog,

I am sure everyone is stoked for the new event, as am I, but I can already see a foreseeable issue: killer lobby times. As this new event requires Suvivors and Killers to become competitive for the coins, survivors are going to switch to killer as with the Hallowed Blight event. Since being killer is easier than survivor, unless you have a full swf team, you will suffer. As someone who often solo queues, this event is going to promote killers to camp and tunnel people, and bring in Moris to ensure survivors DO NOT get their coins. I can say right now, I'm switching to killer for this event because it's easier.

Honestly, just bring back something similar to the pustules and hooks. With this event, you are only promoting the toxicity of this community. It's the competitive nature that makes this community toxic and now you're going out of your way to make it worse, devs. Give it some thought before you make this game impossible to play as survivor. You want to reduce the chances of swf yet this event is promoting survivors to play swf otherwise they will definitely be left on hook to die ad people don't save one another anymore (based on xbox).

Hoodied

@kazzymoyashi said:
Hello devs and fellow People of the Fog,

I am sure everyone is stoked for the new event, as am I, but I can already see a foreseeable issue: killer lobby times. As this new event requires Suvivors and Killers to become competitive for the coins, survivors are going to switch to killer as with the Hallowed Blight event. Since being killer is easier than survivor, unless you have a full swf team, you will suffer. As someone who often solo queues, this event is going to promote killers to camp and tunnel people, and bring in Moris to ensure survivors DO NOT get their coins.

Honestly, just bring back something similar to the pustules and hooks. With this event, you are only promoting the toxicity of this community. It's the competitive nature that makes this community toxic and now you're going out of your way to make it worse, devs. Give it some thought before you make this game impossible to play as survivor.

Nooooooooo! Pustules and hooks (If you mean cankers and such) was a nightmare

kazzymoyashi

ToxicFengM1n said:

Nooooooooo! Pustules and hooks (If you mean cankers and such) was a nightmare

How was it a nightmare? What did you play as?

Shad03

It honestly looks like survivors will have it easier around this time. I was just BARELY getting my vials filled as a killer when I was up against the teams that had drained the plants quickly. I dunno, let's see how this event rolls out first before you scream that it's gonna end up bad.

Hoodied

@kazzymoyashi said:
ToxicFengM1n said:

Nooooooooo! Pustules and hooks (If you mean cankers and such) was a nightmare

How was it a nightmare? What did you play as?

okay, killer and survivor, survivors had a pain when there teammates abandoned them for the secondary objective, killer was boring as hell due to little or no generators getting done and having 3 sacrifices

kazzymoyashi

Shad03 said:

It honestly looks like survivors will have it easier around this time. I was just BARELY getting my vials filled as a killer when I was up against the teams that had drained the plants quickly. I dunno, let's see how this event rolls out first before you scream that it's gonna end up bad.

No, they won't. Killers are supposed to destroy the things that survivors need to survive and escape with. Franklin's is going to make this event impossible. Let's not forget, we had killer lobby issues last time and it was HARDER for killers to get their vials... imagine how it's going to be now in which 90% of survivors are going to switch over, at least on xbox. 

kazzymoyashi

ToxicFengM1n said:

@kazzymoyashi said:
ToxicFengM1n said:

Nooooooooo! Pustules and hooks (If you mean cankers and such) was a nightmare

How was it a nightmare? What did you play as?

okay, killer and survivor, survivors had a pain when there teammates abandoned them for the secondary objective, killer was boring as hell due to little or no generators getting done and having 3 sacrifices

 Okay, but how is this going to be different? People will search for the item, do 2 gens and then hide in lockers/urbanly evade everywhere, and wait till the killer murders the other 3. It's not going to change to 'boring' element nor the abandonment element. 

Hoodied

@kazzymoyashi said:
ToxicFengM1n said:

@kazzymoyashi said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

Nooooooooo! Pustules and hooks (If you mean cankers and such) was a nightmare

How was it a nightmare? What did you play as?

okay, killer and survivor, survivors had a pain when there teammates abandoned them for the secondary objective, killer was boring as hell due to little or no generators getting done and having 3 sacrifices

 Okay, but how is this going to be different? People will search for the item, do 2 gens and then hide in lockers/urbanly evade everywhere, and wait till the killer murders the other 3. It's not going to change to 'boring' element nor the abandonment element. 

Let me evaluate this, its gonna be different because they will choose going for the item over teammates and greed will occur

kazzymoyashi

ToxicFengM1n said:

Let me evaluate this, its gonna be different because they will choose going for the item over teammates and greed will occur

So how is it different? All it will do is promote people to do 2 gens and then hide until everyone else dies. It's going to be a bad set up. In fact, you're more likely to get survivors pointing and BMing more towards one another. It's honestly going to create a bigger issue when it comes to the toxicity in this community. 

DwightsLifeMatters

kazzymoyashi said:

Shad03 said:

It honestly looks like survivors will have it easier around this time. I was just BARELY getting my vials filled as a killer when I was up against the teams that had drained the plants quickly. I dunno, let's see how this event rolls out first before you scream that it's gonna end up bad.

No, they won't. Killers are supposed to destroy the things that survivors need to survive and escape with. Franklin's is going to make this event impossible. Let's not forget, we had killer lobby issues last time and it was HARDER for killers to get their vials... imagine how it's going to be now in which 90% of survivors are going to switch over, at least on xbox. 

How do you want to know that Franklins will affect this?

kazzymoyashi

DwightsLifeMatters said:

kazzymoyashi said:

No, they won't. Killers are supposed to destroy the things that survivors need to survive and escape with. Franklin's is going to make this event impossible. Let's not forget, we had killer lobby issues last time and it was HARDER for killers to get their vials... imagine how it's going to be now in which 90% of survivors are going to switch over, at least on xbox. 

How do you want to know that Franklins will affect this?

You're right, I don't for certain know that Franklin's will affect this. It's just a guess on my behalf - but it wouldn't be a surprising thing at this point.

starkiller1286

kazzymoyashi said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

Let me evaluate this, its gonna be different because they will choose going for the item over teammates and greed will occur

So how is it different? All it will do is promote people to do 2 gens and then hide until everyone else dies. It's going to be a bad set up. In fact, you're more likely to get survivors pointing and BMing more towards one another. It's honestly going to create a bigger issue when it comes to the toxicity in this community. 

Bit since the killer can delete the eventime item while someone is on the hook it would be in their best interestto search for vessels to smash and if a posters theory is right. Ie: the vessels are forcibly dropped due to corruption as someone was hooked. The survivors either have to rush gems and be sneaky to avoid the killer being able to break the vessels or hide theirs in a corner and come back for it when the hatch/gates are open. 

kazzymoyashi

starkiller1286 

Bit since the killer can delete the eventime item while someone is on the hook it would be in their best interestto search for vessels to smash and if a posters theory is right. Ie: the vessels are forcibly dropped due to corruption as someone was hooked. The survivors either have to rush gems and be sneaky to avoid the killer being able to break the vessels or hide theirs in a corner and come back for it when the hatch/gates are open. 

Exactly, so all that will happen now is killers will immediately go find the vessels and destroy them and then everyone will quit the matches as why should they continue if they don't get anything out of it? So once again, you're proving my point that killer lobby wait times are going to be ridiculously LONG. It was bad enough for the Hallowed Blight to the point they had to adjust and make the vials shareable between the two. We are going to inevitably run into the same issue again.

Shad03

@kazzymoyashi said:
starkiller1286 

Bit since the killer can delete the eventime item while someone is on the hook it would be in their best interestto search for vessels to smash and if a posters theory is right. Ie: the vessels are forcibly dropped due to corruption as someone was hooked. The survivors either have to rush gems and be sneaky to avoid the killer being able to break the vessels or hide theirs in a corner and come back for it when the hatch/gates are open. 

Exactly, so all that will happen now is killers will immediately go find the vessels and destroy them and then everyone will quit the matches as why should they continue if they don't get anything out of it? So once again, you're proving my point that killer lobby wait times are going to be ridiculously LONG. It was bad enough for the Hallowed Blight to the point they had to adjust and make the vials shareable between the two. We are going to inevitably run into the same issue again.

Nah fam, Live Stream went up yesterday, everyone would theoretically get the same points as each other for simply playing the game, but survivors get the best chance of making it out with way more points then anyone else should they escape with a Lunar Vessel. You get points for simply playing the game itself but again, survivors can do it better. Franklin's Demise also doesn't work with vessels.