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But it'll only be a bandaid fix which is not the way the game's balance should be handled. Maybe make it a passive ability or something. Just not a perk. Killers shouldn't have to take a perk to counter bad design on the dev's part.
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@MeowLux said:
Wouldn't do too much, but would be welcomed especially when the game is lacking mindgames. But I doubt they'll add it.Yeah I bet they'll add more pallets because ya know, 20+ per map ain't enough for the poor rank 20 survs
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@SadonicShadow said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
I DC when survs gen rush. They want the match to end so badly so why not just finish the job? They're mad about losing a pip? I'm mad about waiting 10+minutes to find a match only to have it end in less than 5. Excuse me for wanting to have fun in this game.Gen rush is a serious problem in this game. It is the defacto weakness every killer has and it cannot be stopped or countered. The devs really need to rework the objective in this game in a way that lengthens the game while making it fun for both sides.
I agree. I jut wonder how they're gonna do it. I bet they'll mess it up tho. I mean anything Killer friendly in any sense seems to spell disaster for the devs. I mean look at Wraith's cube that Killers waited for for over a year and a half. What a damn joke.
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I DC when survs gen rush. They want the match to end so badly so why not just finish the job? They're mad about losing a pip? I'm mad about waiting 10+minutes to find a match only to have it end in less than 5. Excuse me for wanting to have fun in this game.
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@Jack11803 said:
@CallMeRusty420
Did you glitch out or something?I think I did. I didn't even know I posted it 4 times >.> I just now saw it too >.>
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@Spiritbx said:
CallMeRusty420 said:@Spiritbx said:
No. - devs
To be fair hopefully the pallet changes will make looping an unviable tactic, but i doubt it.
Sadly the only option is to master the nurse, which is sad since thete are so many cool killers to work with that we have to ignore at higher rank due to looping.
Nope. Looping is still a stupidly viable tactic. I just get like 1 less loop SOMETIMES but no worries! There's about 30 more pallets to my left I can go to and keep on looping.
Oh good, i was worried for a second that the survivors would have to go on without safe zones in a horror survival game.
I know right? I mean what horror/survival game would make it's players struggle to survive? It's unfathomable. #sarcasm
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@robin said:
Def agree, killers need to actually be intimidating, you should actually be kind of scared when you're in the terror radius. Instead, you just sigh and run in a circle until every gen is done or he gives up, or he hooks you and you get saved right away and escape. Killers should be borderline OP imo, instead of survivors being definitely OP. Way too many pallets, way too many infinite loops, gens finish way too fast, bloodlust is way too slow, etc. It should actually be rewarding to escape a match, instead of an expectation. And to anyone that says "oh, if you're getting looped, just chase a different survivor", well every survivor past rank 15 can pallet loop a killer for long enough to get 2 gens done. You just chase a different survivor to get looped again.
And adding tons of cosmetics instead of fixing these things and making certain perks, that are just plain unusable, actually usable, is a joke.
just my opinionWelcome to the mindset of the people behind DbD :chuffed:
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@sumurtugu said:
Setsune said:@sumurtugu said:
But tbh, what else can survivors do to escape?
Not sure if they are supposed to "escape" for that long, the Killer is supposed to get you that is why its 4v1 and you don't die instantly on a hook.
The survivors have to escape. The killer has to kill. Whoever does it better wins. What do you mean the survivors are not supposed to escape?
What you said would be the case if the game didn't give survivors so many crutches that they can run with every limb broken. gg ezpz
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@Spiritbx said:
No. - devs
To be fair hopefully the pallet changes will make looping an unviable tactic, but i doubt it.
Sadly the only option is to master the nurse, which is sad since thete are so many cool killers to work with that we have to ignore at higher rank due to looping.Nope. Looping is still a stupidly viable tactic. I just get like 1 less loop SOMETIMES but no worries! There's about 30 more pallets to my left I can go to and keep on looping.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@sumurtugu said:
But tbh, what else can survivors do to escape?Looping isnt trying to escape. It's wasting the Killers time.
If people actually focused on trying to learn how to escape and less time running in circles maybe they'd figure it out. I never loop and I lose Killers all the time. The people that think Killers are impossible to lose or break the chase against are simply ill-experienced.
Breaking line of sight is always the number 1 rule to actually escaping a Killer. Breaking LoS and moving to a new location or double backing etc, doing some crazy mindgame during a pallet break or something rather than running in a straight line or just ducking into some nearby corner etc.
I can give you all the tips I want to escape a Killer. But until you attempt it yourself and learn how to do it yourself, you'll just continue to think looping is the only way.
This player here is a TRUE survivor. Not just a Nascar loving looper. +10000000000000000000
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@Fre_Shavacado0 said:
i play as survivor, and even i think survivors are jerks. the other day, someone got facecamped, and i tried to get them off but there was no way without me putting myself at risk, so i left them (as did the other 2 people) i guess they got salty and started messaging me during the duration of the match, including “what are you doing do a gen you’re just walking around” when ALL the gens were done and i was crouching towards an exit gate. some survivors shouldn’t play this game because they literally cannot handle not getting their way.Another good survivor. +1
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@SadonicShadow said:
I had a survivor yesterday that was clicky clicky flashlighting at me and tea bagging. Downed him within 15 seconds and massacred the rest of his team. Called me a bad killer despite the fact that i dumpstered them all and got a 4k lol. Some people just cant handle losing.And by some people, you mean about 95% of the survivor population? lol
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@powerbats You are one of the few good survivors. I applaud you for standing up against the bs that most other survivors just seem to relish in. +1 my man.
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@mintchapstick said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
Survivors are the scum of this game. Entitled, greedy, selfish, and nothing but wannabe bullies since real life hasn't been to nice to them and they watched a few Ochiduh videos. Survivors are scum.Christ, do you read your own posts before you press submit or do you just spit out this massive ball of misplaced rage and call it a post? You seriously need to take a massive step back.
I hate this hatch situation a lot & I think it's 100% unfair and not at all balanced, but I'm not going to demonize people who play killers.
Yeah I do read my own posts and I know the truth hurts but someone has to say it. I mean you seem to wonder why you have so many survs that run DS with a purple flashlight and tbag to try to pester the killer. You also see mot of the surv population having to run in circles around a pallet which ruins how the game was supposed to be played according to the devs since they said pallets were just for distancing yourself from the killer; not to play Nascar with. Sorry if you diagree with I say, but what I say is true. Hell, you have a good chunk of survs that want the game to stay as imbalanced as it is because it seems they want to say they're good at the game when it' actually the game itself carrying them. Survs are scum except for maybe like 5% that actually want the game fairly balanced and made. While the other 95% are complaining about the small pallet change and the small hatch change and are seeming to think they are ruining the game when the fact is it's just ruining their scum tactics. This game is supposed to be a horror game for the survivors, not a bully simulator.
And another reason why I say survs are scum is that a you scroll down this post, you see people that actually present logical and good ideas and actual points upon their posts and yet, they're downvoted by people like you just because they disagree and don't even provide why they downvoted. You survs are scum. Yall can downvote all you like, but people will still read and see what yall try so desperately to hide. Yall even downvoted Peanits who's a mod just because he stated that survs don't deserve a free win with the hatch. Yall are pathetic.
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@Runiver said:
There is one main issue with that kind of system :
It would make people not to want to rank up. Especially since there is no rewards for doing so. Which could lead to even more bullying at low ranks for both sides.The real solution would be to make the game more noob-friendly.
For example, giving the perk "Windows of Opportunity" for free, or make it to appear in bloodwebs for the first 3 characters you level up, would help immensely. Which would ask for it to be a free perk tho, and give a new perk for Kate that would be more fitting to her since she's a DLC character, so meant for experience players.Along with that, you could simply tweak some meta perks that are very used at high ranks, while not destroying them for low ranks that do not play optimally with them anyway, would be a good step toward a decent balancing of the game.
Maker the game more noob friendly? That's EXACTLY what the devs have been doing which lead to the survs being as OP as they are.
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@Runiver said:
There is one main issue with that kind of system :
It would make people not to want to rank up. Especially since there is no rewards for doing so. Which could lead to even more bullying at low ranks for both sides.The real solution would be to make the game more noob-friendly.
For example, giving the perk "Windows of Opportunity" for free, or make it to appear in bloodwebs for the first 3 characters you level up, would help immensely. Which would ask for it to be a free perk tho, and give a new perk for Kate that would be more fitting to her since she's a DLC character, so meant for experience players.Along with that, you could simply tweak some meta perks that are very used at high ranks, while not destroying them for low ranks that do not play optimally with them anyway, would be a good step toward a decent balancing of the game.
Maker the game more noob friendly? That's EXACTLY what the devs have been doing which lead to the survs being as OP as they are.
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@Runiver said:
There is one main issue with that kind of system :
It would make people not to want to rank up. Especially since there is no rewards for doing so. Which could lead to even more bullying at low ranks for both sides.The real solution would be to make the game more noob-friendly.
For example, giving the perk "Windows of Opportunity" for free, or make it to appear in bloodwebs for the first 3 characters you level up, would help immensely. Which would ask for it to be a free perk tho, and give a new perk for Kate that would be more fitting to her since she's a DLC character, so meant for experience players.Along with that, you could simply tweak some meta perks that are very used at high ranks, while not destroying them for low ranks that do not play optimally with them anyway, would be a good step toward a decent balancing of the game.
Maker the game more noob friendly? That's EXACTLY what the devs have been doing which lead to the survs being as OP as they are.
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@Runiver said:
There is one main issue with that kind of system :
It would make people not to want to rank up. Especially since there is no rewards for doing so. Which could lead to even more bullying at low ranks for both sides.The real solution would be to make the game more noob-friendly.
For example, giving the perk "Windows of Opportunity" for free, or make it to appear in bloodwebs for the first 3 characters you level up, would help immensely. Which would ask for it to be a free perk tho, and give a new perk for Kate that would be more fitting to her since she's a DLC character, so meant for experience players.Along with that, you could simply tweak some meta perks that are very used at high ranks, while not destroying them for low ranks that do not play optimally with them anyway, would be a good step toward a decent balancing of the game.
Maker the game more noob friendly? That's EXACTLY what the devs have been doing which lead to the survs being as OP as they are.
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@Jack11803 said:
@Spiritbx said:
Solution: once the 5 gens are done, something in the basement appears that lets the killer work on it the same way doors work. Except this timer is visible to everyone somehow, after 2 minutes, the game ends, survivors die and killer gets points for sacrifices.
If the survivors see the timer ticking down, that means that the killer is in the basement and that its time to run to an exit.
It takes 35 seconds to open a gate and exit, this leave more than enough time to find a gate. If you want to [BAD WORD] around thats fine, but if you are too late then you die.
Escape preventing/slowing perks could be disabled while timer is ticking.dying light, Freddy, swing chains=YOUR SCREWED
Freddy OP!?
That'll be too OP for Killer. It's not like killers get trumped by a small piece of wood and poor balance already right? #sarcasm #DbDDevsSuck
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@Master said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Master said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
I've run into a 3 man SWF labeled Chika1, Chika2, and Chika3 and since I was winning and only 2 were left, I followed the Claud Chika into a corner where they DC'd so the last remaining one could get the hatch. Also don't play against a player named finger lickin good or clownin around because he's one of the biggest mechanic abusers ever. I dodge him due to how toxic he is.Just dodge in lobby, there is a reason why devs left the option to leave the lobby
I really hope that they will adress the SWF issue soon, but I doubt itI thought I said I dodge? >.> But yeah the devs aren't gonna do anything about it. They are just gonna focus on cosmetics and try to milk players out of money for the auric cells and completely ignore the balance issues. I'm calling it right now. Let's see what gets more updates; the store? Or the game itself?
2.0 gives the answer already
The new map isnt even a new map, only a reskin of an old one
Clown mediocre at best
Even talking aabout cosmetics, suvivor cosmetics have been given a lot more love to than kiler ones....they just cater the game towards 80% of the playerbase and hope that there will be always a fool to play killer
Sadly I'm the fool that plays Killer. But that's only because I have hope. But soon enough I'm gonna drop it. I feel it.
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Now you survs are asking for free points for being hooked? Omfg the entitlement never ends...
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@Peanits said:
@GolgiNea said:
@Peanits said:
I don't think it's that unfair, actually. Being the last one alive doesn't warrant a free escape. If the killer finds it first, that's fair game, he beat you to it. If you manage to get another generator done, you get another shot at it.I think if you have survived thus far as to have the hatch as an option being the last survivor in the trial it should be not only a skill test for the survivor, but a skill test for the killer as well. Its not fun when theres no hope of escaping. Why not level the playing field a little at this point? Some of the suggestions i've seen could make it more fun for both the killers AND survivors.
Being the last survivor isn't necessarily a feat, though. If things are going poorly and I hide in a corner, I'll be the last one alive, but it doesn't mean that I should be on a level playing field with the killer. The difference is that the killer has to earn it. They don't just end up killing the other three survivors by chance. At that point, they've done tremendously well and to put them on a level field with someone who just happened to be the last to die seems unfair to me.
It IS unfair. I'm glad that you have a brain.
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@SuperRavenSn1per said:
The issue is just because you are alive doesn't mean you deserve the hatch escape. There are so many ways to be the last survivor alive and almost none of them make you deserve a hatch escape.What he said^ I mean what idiot can't run around a piece of wood?
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I would be all for these changes if the game was balanced. Sorry but I oppose any surv buffs until us Killers get some actual love.
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I'm a Killer and tbh it doesn't change much since all I verse are SWF that tell each other where the hatch is so when I hook the 2nd to last one, the actual last one gets the hatch most of the time.
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@Master said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
I've run into a 3 man SWF labeled Chika1, Chika2, and Chika3 and since I was winning and only 2 were left, I followed the Claud Chika into a corner where they DC'd so the last remaining one could get the hatch. Also don't play against a player named finger lickin good or clownin around because he's one of the biggest mechanic abusers ever. I dodge him due to how toxic he is.Just dodge in lobby, there is a reason why devs left the option to leave the lobby
I really hope that they will adress the SWF issue soon, but I doubt itI thought I said I dodge? >.> But yeah the devs aren't gonna do anything about it. They are just gonna focus on cosmetics and try to milk players out of money for the auric cells and completely ignore the balance issues. I'm calling it right now. Let's see what gets more updates; the store? Or the game itself?
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That's not how to fix anything in this game. But tbh with ya, the game is stupid favored toward survivors and they know that which i why they try to bully ya. They watch 1 Ochiduh video and then they go out into the fog and become toxic pieces of dog crap.
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@Mc_Harty said:
What are you talking about? The devs didn't slow the killer speed at all.But one thing the PTB showed the devs messing up in is hurting Trapper's Trap placement.
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@Jack11803 said:
They want their side to have an advantage. It’s just human nature. I play 50/50, but I’m not free of bias, no one is. Always remember someone’s intention when they post balance suggestions. Form your own opinions, whether they’re are not reasonable or otherwise is your choice.I read the comments and your dealings with said people, and I have to say you are correct. I may be trying to get the game balanced fairly for the killers and that may be my bias, but at least my bias has actual reasoning behind it with the history of the devs and their way of 'balancing' the game. But the one thing I have to argue on is that I'm not biased for one side or the other, I'm just biased against the imbalance this game has, and I want real balance. I want it to where I am actually a little shook to try and mess with the killer instead of where I can just bully the crap out of them and get away clean. That shouldn't be a thing at all.
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@BarpleBapkins said:
Having self-care as an infinite use perk is very powerful on its own since it doesn't make you rely on your teammates or to scavenge for a med kit at any time. I feel like self-care should be one of the perks that should be used only if you really need to, similar to how Unbreakable only allows you do get up once, but still keeps the fast recovery rate. It shouldn't allow the survivor to be completely dependent without the aid of other survivors, and should only count on the perk when it's most needed, such as when there are no survivors able to assist you or when you're that last survivor in the trial.I feel like the perk should either be token based or charge based. Having it token based can make it rely on helping teammates by completing altruistic actions, similar to WGLF and having a max stack of tokens. In turn, the perk could have moderately faster healing speed that current self-care, but fully healing yourself or having another survivor finish healing you when you're over 75% healed can consume a token, and you'll have to complete more altruistic actions to gain another token, and the survivor will start the match with either 1 or 0 tokens depending on the tier. Having it charge based would only let you heal for a certain amount of time and could be recharged by either healing teammates or collecting a med kit of rare quality or higher, making the perk not infinite but not very limited.
Let me know what other changes to the perk could be done to help actually balance it out. The goal is to not make the perk as crutch as it currently is and to not make it a staple perk for survivors for easier games. The game should be team-based and be centered around benefiting you for helping others and increasing the odds of survival instead of allowing survivors to lone-wolf the game by simply bringing in this perk. I feel like the game should be an actual challenge for the survivor instead of making it a huge challenge to the killer.
I've already suggested this change numerous times in the past. I'm not even sure if the devs listen.
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@Steebear said:
I wish for a lottery win and for Natalie Portman to be in my bed tomorrow morning having cooked me breakfast after confessing her undying love for me.Shall we wager on who gets their wish first?
I just now noticed your comment and sadly I don't because I feel your wish is way more likely to happen xD
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HEY! I LIKE TO DIP MY BBQ SANDWICH INTO MY CHILI THANK YOU VERY MUCH! GOSH!
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Well the game is so surv sided that they get their objective done way before you even get a quarter of yours done and so they wanna try and get more out of the match when, you know, they could've not gen rushed in the first place? Who woulda thunk it?
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Not too long ago I was solo queing and the one survivor that DC'd on my team said and I quote:
'I didn't die'
'I dc'd'
'git gud #########'
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@RagingCalm said:
Wait why does it not show that you have a power? WHAT KILLER ARE YOU DAMNIT I WANNA KNOOOOOOOWIt's my boy Trapper.
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@Jack11803 said:
@SadonicShadow said:
Why not make D strike simply stun the killer in place instead of dropping the survivor? Keep everything about D strike the same from the stun times to the skillcheck but instead you get a stun giving the survivor more time to wiggle. This suggestion would also pair well with boil over for anyone looking to run a wiggle free build. With this change the killer would have some legit counter play and it would not be game breaking. Its a simple idea but maybe this is all the perk really needs to be balanced. Thoughts? Opinions?Every one thinking up these big changes. Your idea is good. But honestly...
Just make only obession able to use it. Problem solved. Only one D-strike s game, that won’t effect you that much.
I think it's a good idea. I don't see the harm in trying this one out.
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@SadonicShadow said:
Why not make D strike simply stun the killer in place instead of dropping the survivor? Keep everything about D strike the same from the stun times to the skillcheck but instead you get a stun giving the survivor more time to wiggle. This suggestion would also pair well with boil over for anyone looking to run a wiggle free build. With this change the killer would have some legit counter play and it would not be game breaking. Its a simple idea but maybe this is all the perk really needs to be balanced. Thoughts? Opinions?You know what? I actually like this idea. Simple and yet, would be effective without feelings like a crutch.
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The game CAN be balanced. I even have an idea in the works that I think would be fair for the killer, solo quers, and SWFs
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@RagingCalm said:
M A G I CI knew there were dark forces at work >.>
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Nah. I just feel they need to increase his tonic's base effect up to 2 seconds. I know it's not much, but it'll at least add up and make his addons be okay to use without having to rework them.
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@Aaronhill1202 said:
I guess your right about that @CallMeRusty420 but id still like to see buying bloodpoints implemented otherwise theres no point in me ever trying to prestige all my charactersWell prestiging is just a choice for you to make. Every time you prestige you're supposed to get better chances at better loot at the bloodweb and you only get a, what I consider, a garbage cosmetic which doesn't even look good. But that's my opinion.
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@Aaronhill1202 said:
Some of those characters are alot better than ones that are free excluding the top 2 (nurse/billy) @CallMeRusty420But you do realize that Killers, including Billy and Nurse, are UP right? The only aspect that would make DLC pay to win is the survivor aspect but all survivors play the same so to buy a DLC is mostly pay to lose. I mean look at Freddy. He is the weakest Killer in the game after he was nerfed by the devs only 1 week afterhis release because and I quote, 'Rank 20 survivors were struggling against him.'
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@Aaronhill1202 said:
You can already buy characters thats others dont have isnt that more pay to win than buying bloodpoints @Thatbrownmonster, @CallMeRusty420How is it pay to win exactly?
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I feel it is a step in the right direction for better balance, but sadly, it's only a single step of a 1000 mile journey.
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@Thatbrownmonster said:
dbd becomes pay to win?anyways you kinda can do that allready by buying allready owned perks in the shrine
What he said^
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When survs will just body block? I object this idea.
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I can see you're angry at the devs, but your anger is 110% justified. Just like mine.
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@Saint_Judas said:
I think part of the problem is many people main one side or the other, and thus, understandably, want a game that is more fun for their side. Many of the new update mechanics were very punishing for survivors, especially those who maybe are not the top class, or those who were but were used to certain mechanics being in favor of them. As it was it was really entirely up to the players teamwork which side won, and if both sides were of equal skill but the survivors worked together, it was stacked in their favor everytime. How do I know this? Because almost every game I work with my team we win, or at least half of us do. When we don't work together we fall apart. As a killer I notice this too, I main Freddy and yet I'm steadily climbing ranks, and I have to ask, why? Freddy is the worst killer and I am no god, I miss my lunges and midgame myself, not to count how often I fall for stuns or let myself get genrushed doing a single chase. Yet every few rounds I win. And I notice its because they don't work together.And that's how its supposed to be really. The game is meant to be stacked towards the killer, and even though I main survivor, the rounds most hard-won are the most rewarding. The emblem system even encourages this, easy wins tend to not give much reward. So the fact that this mechanic challenges survivors and makes it so losing your team is a bad thing is great, even from a survivor perspective, because it encourages better team play. It encourages you to maybe go that extra mile, maybe your teammates will learn to hide better, maybe you will start bringing flashlights or bodyblocking, maybe someone starts running bond so they dont accidentally scrape the killer onto others. You are meant to adapt! But I digress
Thank you for the compliment, really though I just love having discussions like this, getting input and viewing the problem from multiple people and angles helps us all see better the pros and cons of how it currently is and brainstorm how to make it better
I'm a killer main and I've stated this kind of bias in the past. I want fair changes. I want balance. It doesn't take a genius to see that survivors are stupid OP. Especially when I can go from playing killer, outplaying the survs, and somehow they win, and I only safety pip at most, and then go to surv and win without even breaking a sweat and even decide to bully the killer because why not? The devs want me to be OP enough to bully the poor soul. I want actual balance. I am tired of the survs being the power role when the advertisement for this game falsly states killers are the power role.
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@JarJarBlinks said:
It's fairly simple actually. The killer has a choice to either camp the hatch or patrol gens. When you're the last survivor left you have plenty of gens to choose from. Just do some work on all to confuse the killer. This fix is after all ment to fix the whole hatch stand off. And as it is right now most killers lose those points because survivors can just pretend to be AFK on hatch and who the hell wants to waste 30+ minutes standing on the hatch? Entitled survivors..Survivors are the scum of this game. Entitled, greedy, selfish, and nothing but wannabe bullies since real life hasn't been to nice to them and they watched a few Ochiduh videos. Survivors are scum.