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  • "nerf the traps of the Hag"

    Get duck walked on,son.

  • Trapper he is the face of DBD...Moveset wise however For some of his kit you can have the entity open doors to It's world and let another killer pop out and attack a sob.

  • The Doctor: Is basically someone admitting they have no map awareness or tracking skills and needs more or less a free interrupt to catch anyone. On top of that 90% of the time a doctor is gonna be a toxic sob.

    Spirit: It is not mind games to have a really good headset. On top of that like Bubba and Billy she has that whole "I got longer reach then you think" thing going on. So,she will hit you even If you keep pace from her..Or more correct she is The Wraith/nurse for rich kids. That and I see her too much and usually in some kind of Kiwi anime schoolgirl outfit...Which effective makes me assume she has not be nerf cause she makes the skin money.

    Hillbilly: I take "######### with bad connection" for 10. Every Billy has a bad connection on Xbox...IDK why,they just do. And when they cant get their sweet "one shots" they just hit you thou pallets and windows.

  • Ironically, the world building and the character design...(Yes even K-pop man)..What I can not stand is the gameplay around it.

  • @Dabihwow said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2047949#Comment_2047949

    Oh so like you actually are playing the four characters

    Oddily enough before legion came out wrote up a Killer called "the brothers" Who where 3 brothers who played differently and their effect was "Soul bound" which you swap to one of them at random but the others do not move.

    Like with the twins they proved they can do something similar with legion. Having you able to swap between legions at will. And have items to make It seem the player is controlling a legion when they are not.


    So,yeah have 4 killers who can be swaped at on command.

  • Pennywise wise, It would be more a matter of what would he do and how would If effect gameplay.

    Mr.X can be put into the game..But,once again what would his power be unlike Pennywise It is not a he can do too much as much as, what is something special to him?

  • I would not so much replace legion as much as rework them in a way the reflects them being a team. Like they are hiding in locations in the map and you can swap to them at will with the power button or something.

  • @Moundshroud said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/234410/entity-displeased-you-killed-the-survivors-to-fast

    Because nobody goes to a horror movie to watch it end in the first two minutes? :) Here, watch this little scene... the main character explains it far better than I can:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_hsjTExzbw

    Well, no one wants to watch a boring movie which is dragged out either.

  • @EvanSnowWolf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2017802#Comment_2017802

    It really is a weird setup. They tell you to kill, but apparently just going and doing that really well is... bad. Because: reasons. I understand the lore reason they come up, but it makes for weird gameplay. I'm reminded of Devour Hope, where if I want stacks of it on a map like Hawkins I have to hook the Survivor and immediately run as hard and fast as I can away from the hook so I can get out of the radius to get my stack when I let the Survivor go. Neat idea, but it makes no sense at all.

    It's a game that wants you to hit every Survivor, chase every Survivor, and hook every Survivor and do it multiple times each. But at the same time the Survivors are doing Generators and their Lightbringer Emblem doesn't lose points if you get chased off the gen or someone else finishes it. It's just do the gens (mostly) for that Emblem. Meanwhile, the Killer can actually LOSE points if the Survivors heal. What? Why? Wouldn't the Entity want them to heal so I can wound them some more? To inflict more pain?

    The whole system feels like it was rushed together in a single afternoon and no one decided to fix it later.

    Well, If I recall the point of this system connects to a overarching problem with DBD as It progresses thou the years.

    It is in theory designed to make sure no one goes where they are not meant to go and promote what the devs consider "heathy". Which ironically did the reverse. The system is design in a way that activity promotes the surviors treating the killer like a punching bag and also more or less turns the killer more or less into a bot or a souless killing machine who who is too effective to the point they are not having any fun and nor are survivors.

    The rules of It basically hurts all parties..But, ofcrouse SWF who have enough communication that they can get all the points they need and basically take turns being chased around so they can get their points. Meanwhile,If you are soloing and not running Meta and trying a more gimicky build the game activity punishes you..Same with Killers.

    On top of that as you stated healing takes killer points away, so does losing a survivor, and standing too close to a hook...In fact way too much ######### takes Killer points away.

    Even,then If a game is long which "the entity loves so much" Does not mean everyone was having fun or having a good time...Which I guess If we want players to feel like the lore..Well, GG the devs made people unhappy. But,even If the game is long does not mean everyone is gonna pipe..because you can hook all four sobs twice and then finally kill two people and still end up with silver..cause, reasons.

    It is by all designs overtuned to make It "Fair"...But not really.

  • @CryptFriend said:

    I love hearing that I'm right without having to say a word.

    It's super ego-boosting.

    To clarify: the people who are saying that Hag is both hard to play and play against while still being rewarding and engaging are my new favorite non-friend people. Too often I try to make this point and get told I'm stupid and that I've clearly never played this game ever.

    Yes, flashlights are good against hag, but they don't disarm traps, they set them off early.

    Yes, you can crouch past her traps, but you can't easily do so in chase and must instead choose your loops wisely.

    Yes, she can trap the map to have an oppressive presence, but as soon as she picks someone up good survivors will be hitting (and setting off) every trap on the map just to waste her time.

    Both sides to the coin are valid. Hag isn't boring, she's different.

    ... And there's nothing wrong with being different.

    As a Hag player I get a sick sense of enjoyment watching everyone have to duckwalk everywhere for they fear setting off my traps.

    It is almost like they are actually scared of me or something..And they don't duckwalk they get a jumpscare and I get to punch them..So,It makes me happy.

    That and I run hag with dragon's grip and make your choice.

  • The doctor...Because, You will rarely meet a doctor you is not intending to be "toxic"

  • Nurse: If you do not know what you are doing It can backfire..You can still "hide" from the Nurse and even try to outsmart her. Teleports have a stun after a set amount of time. As a Result If she fails to land a blow It hurts a lot. Losing to a Nurse feels either like you ######### up majorly or the Nurse was skilled. Because, her skillgap is high because If she teleports and goofs she loses.


    Spirit: Does not get stun while in her invis mode..Let us not lie It is a invis mode but for some reason is treated like a teleport. Honestly from what I see dev wise Spirit gets specials treatment (assuming cause she sells a lot of skins) and her skill with never be fixed in a meaningful way. This also is not including the fact she phases at random as well, so her character is one big distortion who keeping track off is a #########...On top of that she has no outline like Wraith does when he moves around because once again she is treated like a teleporting killer when she is not and gets to leave her husk around which is basically her "mind games" which is a nice way of saying people will pretend to be a husk to whack you. But most of all you can't use a flashlight to counter her power...Which I think would make her more barable If you could expose her moment with the flashlight or at least use killer seeing skills to see her invisaport movement.

    It is one of those things a lot of thing can be done to fix It..But no one is trying.

  • Anything that is fun tbh..I have ideas..But, too many of them since fun is semi-subjective.

  • Killer Klowns from Outspace.

    Think about It cotton candy gun which traps survivors and makes It so they can't wiggle free or d-strike out of your hands.

    Or PopCorn klowns which make traveling a pain and could be used to block paths.

    So,many choices in havoc to bring to the fog..and of course so many klowns to choose from..So,many skins.

  • I want a aint offering for killers so It is like "Yeah,no we aint going there" to overide one map choice. I also think Killer offerings should be more effective..since,you know you are the killer.

  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992327#Comment_1992327

    Please for all things holy do not bring animals into this..Cause, well Otters jerk off with fishheads and other weird crap in the animal kingdom. Or the army of birds who decides burning half a nation down for a snack was smart. That and well, that can be flipped in a way that is...Well, not very wholesome 100.

    I'm not the one who brought up "natural", though. Either nature is relevant, or it isn't. If it is, then homophobia is unnatural. If it's not, then "natural" can't be used as an argument. That's my point.

    It kind of is promotion when you wave a flag around and scream It at the top of your lungs tbh.

    Show me someone doing that on this forum or the game, please.

    It really depends, like summoning a LGBT character right in pride month is a tad on the nose. It feels more like pandering by that point.

    Like Christmas decorations in December is pandering?

    Even then,out side of chick flicks most people don't care about sexuality as much as anymore.

    The fact that there's this much (vocal) pushback every single time an LGBT character is even considered tells me otherwise.

    I would also argue If you have even a straight cupple going "we straight btw" and smacking lips every 10 mins It would drive people up the walls.

    Frank and Julie's lore didn't, though.

    Natural and unnartual are barely debatable stances...I also don't like Dolphins. Octopuses are clearly smarter.

    Not talking about forums, talking about everytime some adds something they scream it on social media...They called a cartoon duck Lantinx ffs.

    Well, Christmas was based around holiday created in rome which was a day where slaves where freed of debts and some prisoners could go back to their homes. It was changed with the transition of Rome into a Christian civilization where they basically did the quick "yeah Jesus was totally born today" thing. As time progress people kept the tradition and It changed for a lot of reasons. But, It is a very oddly old holiday. Which become a Corporate ######### show as time progressed.

    Pride Month is very much new and very much corporates. It is such a holiday which people from the SCP community and other like to push in settings that ironically most of the world outside of white European countries don't acknowledge It. Hell, even some of those countries acknowledge Christmas but not pride month. But, then again I find Autism awareness to be just as oxnoius in terms of pandering. Because,It is both a trick of special treatment yet ironically reinforced alienation. But, getting into social bullshit is more depressing then my match win rate lately...So,we will leave that when people want a survivor with a wheelchair.

    The vocal pushback is a result of the vocal upheaval. Push and pull and all that. Cause, to be upfront the LGBT community has been getting too loud as of late. On top of that as stated people are getting a little tried of every other day "We need a LGBT character" threads. By this point I am 100% sure a large amount of the push back is out of spite And calling people homophobes only empowers the pushback/spite. BVHR have already stated they are gonna add a couple and outside of like a few whiners on the twitter no one really cares.

  • Why does he use a bat? A Mic stand would be better.

  • @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1991408#Comment_1991408

    "LGBT" it's like a mark we put on ourselves while we should first understand that "hate" or "not hate", behing sexually oriented is very natural.

    No, it's not. Non-heterosexuality exists in a ######### ton of species. Homophobia only exists in one. If nature isn't natural, then what is?

    All this promotion is a giant "marketing" operation to state and be "proud" our "differentiation" from the rest of the specie. We are not. Another period.

    There's no "promotion", there's just equal treatment. Heterosexuals get featured in media all the time and nobody bats an eye. Why are you making a big deal out of non-heterosexuals being featured in media as well? If we're no different, then it shouldn't matter to you, right?

    Please for all things holy do not bring animals into this..Cause, well Otters jerk off with fishheads and other weird crap in the animal kingdom. Or the army of birds who decides burning half a nation down for a snack was smart. That and well, that can be flipped in a way that is...Well, not very wholesome 100.


    It kind of is promotion when you wave a flag around and scream It at the top of your lungs tbh. It really depends, like summoning a LGBT character right in pride month is a tad on the nose. It feels more like pandering by that point. Even then,out side of chick flicks most people don't care about sexuality as much as anymore. I would also argue If you have even a straight cupple going "we straight btw" and smacking lips every 10 mins It would drive people up the walls..But,then again Twilight and romance novels are a thing. But, once again DBD is a horror game about 4 people with lightsticks harassing some super natural power creature as the godlike monster who put them there laughs and throws wood everywhere.

  • @SleepyWillo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990740#Comment_1990740

    They will release an LGBT character (like they've said they plan on doing) but they will do so around Pride to get the most "signal boost" bang for their buck. They will do it when its the most profitable, and not when its "right".

    Well,If that is the case It makes all the spamming more dumb since It is written in stone..However, the Chinese version should be worth a good laugh to read.

  • @Mooks said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990185#Comment_1990185

    There is the extreme ones, those get removed.

    but there is also those that are saying LGBT+ chars shouldn’t be added because something along the lines of:

    • Sexuality shouldn’t be in videogames/a horror game
    • Adding LGBT+ chars is making the game political
    • The devs are forced to include it/they don’t even care
    • It’s meaningless towards the gameplay
    • You can already make any character what you want them to be in your head
    • Stereotypical/bad representation can be more harmful than exclusion
    • and of course: the devs only want our moneyz

    all of this while heterosexual relationships are already present and we knownthe devs do care, want to be inclusive and are aware that it’s a sensitive topic.

    So, since you seem to be one of the few reasonable ones I am seeing here I am gonna explain why we might not get a LGBT character and It simply comes down to this.

    The game is in China including the mobile one If I recall. And the Chinese are "strong" about there distaste for well, LGBT and anything connected. I am confused how a game with ghost and other things can be in China so I assume a lot censorship is involved.

    So,I can assume that is really one of the main reasons.


    I would also debate If this game came out like in 2010 or 1999 before everyone had went into a full blown madhouse of RedVsBlue having a gay character would be seen as "fine" or even "cool" or actually progressive..But, now do to the fact that is anyone talks about now in days It would be more shocked to see a devout catholic in DBD then someone from LGBT. But,hell for all I know Ace could be bi and a Catholic. I would never know.

    Truth be told outside of nationallity we only know a handful of info about the surviors and I would argue a lot of the newer surviors are all just "Successful people who are awesome". We need more outcast, failures and loons and less winners.

  • I feel It seems not too bad, It is more like a fill up similuar to the Plagues but requires more forthought and time I can see It being used useful to some people since It basically can be used to give people a good scare so they will run and hide for fear of getting downed.

  • Because, I need someone else to camp but Claudette. So,a new stereotype will do well. I mean with the fact of the massive neon colors It will be like a toxic Meg fresh out the box. If we are going by the new thing coming out anyways.

  • As someone who knows the lore of the series calling It "for kids" is debatable the stuff gets reallly ######### up speacially consider the main villian is murdering them kids and using their souls to power robots for the sake of trying to bring someone back only for him to basically go mad with power and end up getting ironically killed and bound in a suit similar to the kids he killed and is a active ######### face who would give Freddy and the Doctor a run for "World biggest ######### in the fog" reward.

    The only problem I can see is what his power would be mainly and as other said "licensing" because FNAF creator is very protective of his creations.


    In terms of not fitting I wanna remind you people keep asking for Mr.X which is basically just a Zombie T-800 If we are talking about sticking things in that don't belong. Imagine If he moved as slow in game as in RE killers would REE like they did at Pre-rework Freddy. Or Jeepers Creepers, which once again is not only not gonna happen because of (Redacted) but all the Creeper really is when you get down to It is a Predator with wings that has no honor code.

    But, I do understand spit very well,which is why I say If we have a RE chapter make It One of the Bakers and not Mr.X just out of spit.

  • I aint playing DBD til they fix the match making and emblem crap...So,right now I am having all the fun playing outriders demo

  • @SocialDistomancy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1983237#Comment_1983237

    objectively a game with an uneven amount of brains and hands between the sides is impossible to truly balance. You can attempt to compensate, but one side will always have a little edge over the other both in terms of general balance and difference in individual skill levels and whatever rng a game might throw at them. I've realized over time that asymmetrical is a genre that needs to die a quick death if you're concerned about balance.

    I would argue It is less about balanced and more like not making one side feel 100% powerless vs the other. Which from playing these games and where the problem starts.

    The contrast to friday the 13th was Dungeon land. That game bomb because It was too heavily in favor of the DM and all anyone wanted to play was DM. They basically just wiped parties on the first stage and be done.

    People slowly lose interest because after sometime they cant beat the "Winning tactic"..So,they give up and leave..It is like people who play Civ and just rush big armies and take most of everyone out before the game starts.

  • In theory the game is balance in truth..

    Well, let me explain a made by design imbalanced game called Friday the 13th and how It is for the most part Jason sided to a point where people where to use the in-game chat with limited range (unless you got the walkie-talkie) which added to the depth of the game and made It actually fun to hear people screaming trying to work together vs Jason...Then compare that to when people took over friday the 13th the game and basically just wanted to kill jason for sweat so they all go into a group chat..don't interact with Jason, zerg rush his mom's head and try to summon Tommy Jarvis so they can auto Kill Jason and win. Everyone basically just tries to Kill Jason now so the multiple vs 1 has turned the monster into the prey because people found a way to cheese the rules. And Since Jason has to Kill to win cause of the time limit in the Campers favor they are now basically chasing him with a sweater and a shotgun as Jason is now gotta either Killer Tommy before they get the sweater wearer over there Or kill sweater wearer...Which will be impossible because they are gonna have a army of goons body gaurding them.


    DBD is balanced til you add in the mics then basically most the perks are no longer needed by survivors since they basically always know where the killer is at...On top of that SWF more or less have control of which map your heading and If they want to will do everything in their power to send you where they want..This is not including the fact they have basically the same/offshoot offerings as the Killer..But can spam them in mass..So imaging multiple hook removals going off at once.

    The truth is survivors in DBD have too much control..They control the flow of the chase and where it goes, they control the game speed, they even control the escape..It is so ######### bad in game collapse was made basically as the Entity saying "You win, now get the ######### out or I will kill you"...How ######### bad is the balance when the Killer needs to basically open the door to tell you to ######### off?

    And this is because there is no counter vs Comms...And the Devs fear giving the Killer anyway to counter SWF would be overkill/imbalanced.

    Unless,you can basically ######### with 3rd party software in the game by having a Killer who can mute people's mics or do sneaky things to mess with their heads...You are gonna have a SWF problems


    It is not that one said is stronger then others..It is that People going into groups in any game usually ruin It for everyone else.

  • You ironically cracked the code..The hatch spawns in too early.

  • @Mooks said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975217#Comment_1975217

    if an LGBT char is added they don’t get solely added because of being LGBT. They will still have other defining traits mentioned in their lore, distinctive cosmetics, perks that don’t have anything to do with LGBT etc.

    Oh, god I hope so...If not a ######### storm will brew

  • @Phasmamain said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975181#Comment_1975181

    The survivors lore is obviously about them before the entities realm. For example jeffs life as a roadie to an artist

    What happens if the character being LGBT has a big impact on their life. Should we not include it?

    And as for legion aren’t frank and Julie in a relationship?

    Half sure that is fan-cannon but Idk.

    Depends, since we are not 100% sure what brings people to the entities realm (why It is drawn to these people)...So, If It is handle the wrong way It could end up being called tokenism or worst demonizing..But, It is BHVR so idk how they gonna mess It up.

    On,top of that wearing obnoxiously bright clothing is usually a sign of the legendary "Toxic survivor"...Which is gonna cause a level of waah that might be unseen for ages to come.

  • @panernaners said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975181#Comment_1975181

    But that's the thing they have confirmed some characters to be straight like Felix has a girlfriend and even was going to be a father also Wraith and Nurse are supposed to be a couple.

    "Eventually, Felix's girlfriend announced that he was going to be a father."

    So people feel like they should represent everyone and really its only fair and shouldn't be an issue.

    Well,######### never read his lore because he looked unintresting.

  • Actually,

    how do we know who is and is not gay do to the fact outside of Characters from Licenses. We Do not know anyone's sexuality unless the devs tell us. And even then they made It clear they are gonna keep It Shhhh for quite a few reasons.


    For all anyone nows Ace is a bisexual and Meg has a thing for ladies. We don't know because that is not what is important. What is important is they gonna get hooked and why they are here in the entities realm.

    I mean, how do we know one of legion nerds are not gay? How do we know anything unless It is told...Only like what one character is confirmed to have a love interest and that is a nurse due to her lore being about her going crazy due to events.


    Also, I agree with Pilot because this is slowly getting out of hand here with this stuff..Nothing vs LGBT but I don't feel like in 4 years from now having to read about the united state voting system or how BHVR needs to Denounce some random youtuber for politics.

  • As long as the Killer is not some kind of K-pop singer I will ok with It

  • It aint about kill rate, It is about the fact that when you get down to It survivors have more control then the Killer in the game.

  • @Dragonshensi said:

    Also to note: how is it fun for the Killer to go against players who are not in his league? It’s like an NFL player tackling and beating down a middle school football player. Do you think they enjoy that? I mean, free BP I guess but I doubt the match is challenging and exciting for them either

    In my world I am green and the reason why is everyone I play is red or Purple..usually armies of red

  • Killer Klowns from Outspace

    They already got a chase theme, cool music and a few things which could be used as skills.

    Also, multiple klowns multiple skins.

  • @Shirokinukatsukami said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1956913#Comment_1956913

    Correction.

    Keys have been slightly nerfed (made them easier to see).

    DS was nerfed 2 or was it 3 years ago I forget.

    OOO is the only thing that hasn't been nerfed in your list.

    So what if the list of nerfs were over a span of 3 years? That doesn't change that the cries for nerf have literally never stopped. That goes for both sides though, not just killers. Survivors are a pretty whiny bunch too. But nowhere as whiny as killers.

    Actual Dstrike has gone thou many changes thou the years..But,before this verson It has had 2 buffs to make up for the nerfs..The verson that was out before this nerf was very close to how It originally was. A free ######### you to the killer But, only with a time limit added.

    Dstrike is a perk that really was never well thought out.

    I would debate that If we are talking whine survivors and killers have different whine tactics. If we are talking worst of the worst.

    Killer straight up just #########. They get the short end and ######### about getting It. The contrast is Killers admit they are butthurt.

    Survivors acts smug and like toshit talk killers when they get things nerf calling whiners and what not, But turn into caillou when It is their time for a nerf batting and usually try to deny "Butthurt".

  • Err, a hard one...

    If we only use SH lore PH is gonna murder the Oni in cold blood..However, remember we are in DBD So, It is a question of how much is PH aloud to do and how much is he not.

    However, the battle between sexual rage and Samurai gatekeeping rage is funny as hell

  • In a 1v1 honor duel ghostface seems like he would have a edge. His jacket seems to be made a heavier stuff then her clothing so when she goes in with the slashes It might not go thou and hit the skin..But, his knife is a staby tool not a slashy one so, he would be able to go in for the kill on her.

    In a 2 DBD style map battle...Ironically, depends on the map...In cornfields and crap like that Ghostface will be able to use his skill to see her outline and go in for the kill...Othermaps If The Pig gets the drop on him "Due to her dash skill" She will finish him off quickly or be able to blitzkrieg him and quickly get out before he can do anything making his way of tracking become useless as she dives in and out..Denying him his stalk while also not caring. He will get a few hits in, but in the end..She is Jigsaw trainee, so that means she is not a total moron and could bait him where he would unable to counter him.


    So, It comes down to one thing...Who can teabag the best?

  • @Leachy_Jr said:

    I really do not think you should punish people for playing with their friends. Just balance the game around SWF and we wont have to have SWF only balancing.

    The think the best idea I heard was basically for when a SWf goes past 2 and has 3 people you get a extra perk..So, IF 4 people ina swf you get 2 extra perks If you are the killer

  • If running totems place traps near totems

    Never commit to a chase you can't win, You are slowish and have a height problem.

    You have a height problem so,If possible you can catch a survivor off guard before they can react to you.


    trap placement can be anywhere you want..Before a chase set them in points you know people will go and strangle points for a promised hit..

    If a shithead wants to loop you..Put a trap near a loop or just walk away.

    When you hook someone put two trasp around them If you wanna free Hit..If you want to let them go put zero traps..People become more scared when zero traps are around cause they will always assume after the first wave a of jumpscares the thing is rigged with traps.

    If in mid of a chase and a trap goes off, teleport to It...cause, people will not be ready If you are in the middle of a chase for you to pop up and slap them.


    Add-ons: anything with teleport range boost and placement speed is useful..There are more "op" add-ons, but they can If you do not know how to run her backfire.

    Perks: I have mutiple builds for her.

    I got: Ruin, Thrilling Trumors, Noed, STBFL

    Dragon's grasp, make your choice, With 2 random perks added in

    As my basic builds.

    Note, traps can be broken by flashlights so you might want a franklin's for that

  • @Dito175 said:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/61TJP0DMDVJU/image.png

    You can actually look at his face in his addon, i think he is just an old white guy, being a john doe to hide in the crowds.

    He gots that look of "My dayjob makes me wanna kill myself"..Yeah, gotta be a whiteguy middle age maybe mid to late 20's.

  • I have been seeing people running It a lot less since the nerf was imply to be coming...So,I think It had more effect then most assumed.

  • Funny enough both sides are getting worse...I wonder why

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1957062#Comment_1957062

    Infinites got nerfed and replaced with huge deadzones.

    There wasn't a gen nerf, there was toolboxes and prove thyself nerf.

    Only map rework that is survivor sided was Gideon.

    Keys are being reworked.

    When people talk about sabo nerf, they aren't talking about the hooks respawning, they're talking about not being able to 99% them anymore.

    D-strike needed a nerf, with that I can agree.

    Kindred was already a BBQ counter, and OoO if reworked how they mentioned, is going to improve solo Q, which right now is the most undervalued side of the game.

    Dead Hard is fine and so is spine chill.

    I have honestly found armies of safe pallets in a large amount of maps.

    Yeah, I recall that...Still did little in the end

    I would argue the game is now very much survivor sided and I heard the clowns new version is survivor sided..But,yet to see It.

    I really don't know how they can rework keys in a way which would effective solve the problem which is survivors basically hatch hunting one 1 gen left and jumping out without overall reworking hatch. Because, the Key only lets one person out is goofy as hell of a idea and the animation idea only solves one base problem with keys.

    Let us be Honest, there is a lot of BBQ and Chili counter. However, knowing a Killer is using tracking perks would be invaluable to solo players.


    As stated Dead hard just needs the going thou bodies thing reworked cause that is just goof.

  • I think I load out bar for perks would be more useful to quickly swap.

  • Infinites got nerfed and replaced with a large amount of pallets being super safe.

    Considering, you can finish a gen before the Killer can even walk 2 feet..I would say gen nerf was a failure.

    The map reworks so far have been very much survivor sided..As stated before more safe pallet areas.

    Keys will not be reworked I will blunt on that one..Unlike moris the useage is more complex..At best we can hope for a Killer who blocks the hatch like a blood warden effect.

    As far a Hook breaking, well having people break a hook right in front of your face is cheeso and having people activity body blocking you is clown shoes specially as they break your hook...Note I can still be broken but is not prema gone.

    D-strike needed to be gutted because It became basically a free "be a onxoius #########" card without punishment in that version of It.

    Object, If they rework it as they say..It would ironically be less a toxic perk for both the killer and the teamates since everyone just stands around when using It and more of a "I know the Killer is using tracking perks" effect..So, kind of a BBQ and chili counter

    Dead hard is something I detest..But,only thing I don't like about It is teleporting thou the Killer's hitbox/body...Otherwise I do not hate It that much.

    Wanting the nerf spine chill is stupid..Since you can punish people for being chickens when they use It.

  • @Karao_Ke said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1954577#Comment_1954577

    What's ya secret? I'll usually have to force a 3-gen most of the time because gens always seem to slip under my nose left & right on that map.

    I can't explain It other then I understand the map since I had to play thou It a lot..Don't get me wrong gens get done but usually I end up cleaning 3 people at worst before the 2nd or 3rd get hit.

  • Well, Light-born got buffed so tbh, no point in that since another way is just running franklin's.

  • @NickChinchill said:

    The devs have stated in the past they wouldn't add Killers with the power to appear to be Survivors - it completely breaks the Survivor's ability to detect the Killer. Trust me I do love the Thing but I don't think it could work in Dead by Daylight. That sort of thing works in Team Fortress 2 where characters can actually fight off an imposter or yell into their mics that there's a Spy in their midst. But in Dead by Daylight you can only communicate with vague gestures and there's no way to actually attack a Killer aside from torch stuns, throwing pallets in set locations and some perks once their criteria has been met, which is often situational.

    Well, techially like the wraith you could have the Thing become It's true self when will flashlighted or stuned.

  • Sadly, some maps are worst for some killers then others and some are activity bad for killers overall.

    THE ######### CORNFIELD is the example of the ultimate survivor jerk off map. I know this because survivors will activity try to take you there with a SWF group. Not only is the corn hyper punishing since It will forever block your sight, but do to have jank Bloodlust is you are gonna not be able to see #########.

    @Karao_Ke said:

    Realm definitely matters because each realm has different sizes & layout.

    In general, Haddonfield & Mothers Dwelling are good examples of bad maps for killers. Haddonfield has a terrible layout while Mothers Dwelling is huge, with gens on corners of the map. Contrary to this, maps like Dead Dawg Saloon are great for killers because of how small & easily controlled it is.

    Not to mention, it depends on what killer you're playing. Ghostface might excel on The Game because he's a stealth killer while Billy would perform awful because he is a mobility killer.

    Funny enough, I have very good luck at mother's dwelling as Killer.

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