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@DY86 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3495552#Comment_3495552
wraith doesn’t mori basekit bro lmao
in order to not get moried please look at step 1 of my handy guide
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@Matukas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3495530#Comment_3495530
Where did anyone say she needs to be weak? Who is making that argument? Seems like a strawman. Check my thread. I've called for buffs to parts of her kit.
Saying "it's been a week" when we've been playing her for over a year and can readily see how the changes pan out is the exact sort of mentality that leads to the balance team ignoring the community and going back to their alleged spreadsheet. Do you really trust that the balance team will return to her if we don't give feedback now?
"She requires very little skill to play relative to what she used to require" this was implying to me that you were saying she needs to take a good amount of skill to be high tier my bad
i don't think she needs any more changes i think people just need to learn how to counter her give people time to ajust to the changes, bhvr tends to let everything settle before they go and change a killer again before moving on.
let sadako have her time in the sun man i'm tired of playing wesker.
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here's an add-on to ur guide enjoy =)
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coldwind farms maps have been the most survivor sided maps in the game for years now it was long over due for a balance update no more 40 free safe pallets all over the map get good
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@Matukas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3495509#Comment_3495509
I don't play much survivor, I'm speaking as the killer :) It's really not hard to cut off a survivor who is carrying a tape in the vast majority of matches. It encourages a style of play in which she tunnels down and slugs a tape carrier or two tape carriers and usually this leads to me getting a condemn at 4 or 5 gens.
She requires very little skill to play relative to what she used to require and the counterplay around her is much more involved than just 'take a tape' now, it's too much for survivors. There's almost no challenge in any of the matches.
she's takes more skill than playing survivor the "but she's easy to play111 so she needs to be weak11" agurement isn't gonan work here play the killer a bit more before you scream for nerfs it's not even been a week yet my dude
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@Matukas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3495010#Comment_3495010
This isn't the only reason she feels easy. Global Condemn as a mechanic is an easy thing for her to work with. It's a lot of pressure on survivors with little effort on her part besides using her power on cooldown. The pre-rework Sadako at least had some skill expression in the form of i) demanifest mindgames, ii) keeping track of survivor locations, and iii) herding survivors towards her TVs.
The only skill expression in the reworked Sadako is a reduced version of ii), since now she keeps track of tape holders. It's a much easier version of her to play. On the contrary, the counterplay from survivors requires identifying TV locations, knowing which TVs are turned off via Projection vs. via teammates so that you know where you can grab a tape, knowing where she is and being prepared to loop her, being prepared to bodyblock for tapeholders near windows... it's a lot more skill than the Sadako player needs to put forward and it's not a healthy balance for soloqueue to have.
my dude she's an m1 stealth killer just do the tapes like you would pigs beartraps it's not hard lol
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@OneGoodBoyDemo said:
After playing several games with and against sadako she definitely needs changes. Not because she is too weak or too strong but just because solo Q is not ready for her.
The changes happened just 2 days ago and people who considered her weak are already changing their minds since in just 2 days people have already started to learn to play with the new mechanics.
For people who are using the argument that "people need time to adapt to new changes" i'm sorry to say but that won't work. With two days, people have already learned to play with her and the other side still doesn't know how to face her?
If solo Q needed "time" to adapt then solo Q would not be one of the biggest problems in the game. the game was released 7 years ago so I'm going to assume that the Q solo is bad because people are still adapting....
for people who are saying she is still weak or strong is a bit tricky. let's consider my case, I'm a veteran player with 5 years of DBD so I have more experience than most and if we consider that in a match the new sadako is going to face the same level of people who have the same knowledge and experience as me, she would be considered a weak killer but this is not the case because Solo Q exists.
the other argument that just get the tapes early to avoid condemned doesn't work against a experience Sadako. only a decent team will know how to apply this effect.
Sadako needs changes because of solo Q.
No She's an m1 stealth killer
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Do tapes lol she's an m1 stealth killer
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download more ram dude.
kidding, so if the game isn't launching past easy anti cheat or loading into the menu screen that's most likey a hardware issue on your end
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I'm still waiting on you to disprove me with ur skills since so your so much better and killers "easy" no perks no add-on myers 4k 1 game what's the matter pro gamer can't do it?
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@SWF_destroyer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3494725#Comment_3494725
Hens disproved you already, no need for that. Besides Myers has nothing to do with sadako. You know what to do now right? You have to git gud.
still waiting on that myers screenshot
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@SWF_destroyer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3494407#Comment_3494407
Not needed anymore, hens disproved you. Your point failed, work on your skill issues
still waiiting on that myers screenshot.
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still waiiting on that myers screenshot bud come on now killer's easy
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3493511#Comment_3493511
oh boy. Is this buffed wraith 2.0? new players dying at 5 gens.... so therefore wraith over-performing. /shrug.
the data clearly shows that sadako has a 68% kill rate time to remove her TVs
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@Leon_Scott_Kennedy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/384645/welp-sadakos-trash-thanks-devs
First game I played I was able to pull off 3 Moris with her power, im in high mmr too she is not weak bud, sounds like a skill issue
So you play one game during the time new players are coming in mass 4k and by that one game you're assuming she's good? I used to main her bud quit trying to pull the "skill issue bud" card i used her before these buffs while she was bad and made her work i doubt you could say the same mr 1 game "oh ye she's good bro 1 played one match and detrimed she's good" mhm
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@SantaKlawz1 said:
Skill issue. She's OP now.
Now, Now just cause you're losing doesn't make the killer "OP"
Seems like you're the one with a skill issue dying to an m1 killer
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@jayoshi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3493207#Comment_3493207
Just wait. People will learn they just need to hold onto a tape the entire game. As long as they have a tape, they don't have to worry about being condemned. When I first started playing as her, I thought she was strong. But I'm getting more and more games where people just hold onto tapes and they don't care if they get 2 stacks from a hit while holding it. They can just easily get rid of the condemned again by going to any TV on the map. Some TVs are right next to each other. I'm going back to playing Ghostface lol fun while it lasted.
this
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@Chordyceps said:
She doesn't feel that weak to be entirely honest. In the matches I've played, Condemned has become a lot more prevalent, and hero mini-mori is actually happening pretty commonly now. Ive experienced this on both sides so far today.
yea i'll admit i jumped the gun here she seems ok but i can't judge her until the nick cage hype dyes down cause right lots of new players are coming and in and it's hard to test with you don't get any good players i got destroyed on my first match with and her and every one after that i 4ked i played around 20 matches. a few with 300 hours survivors thanks mmr the changes on paper seem pretty good tho so just ingore my OP i've changed my mind
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@SWF_destroyer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3493209#Comment_3493209
Skill issue buddy. I can play with most killers perfectly fine and win 90% easily. Don't excuse it that the killers are to weak. YOU are to weak with these killers .
since you're so good buddy how about sending me some screenshots of you 4king with freddy i'ld love to see this pro gamer gameplay feel free to drop em =)
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@SWF_destroyer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3493209#Comment_3493209
Skill issue buddy. I can play with most killers perfectly fine and win 90% easily. Don't excuse it that the killers are to weak. YOU are to weak with these killers .
No you can't Low mmr gamer. play at high level then come and talk to me killer a forced 60% winrate now quit replying if you've nothing worthwhile to you say i get it you're bad and the players you play are bad and because of that you think you're good you're not.
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@BlueHorkew said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/384645/welp-sadakos-trash-thanks-devs
I am going to laugh really hard, if this turns into a SM situation and she is actually really busted in a really unfun way.
i have to admit i'm judging her a bit too quickly, i do hope this the cause i've been surffering for so long on her on release been playing wesker so long i'm desperate for a killer i enjoy to be good and viable whoose name isn't wesker but if she isn't good i will go back to wesker and let her gather dust like i did before we shall see
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@SWF_destroyer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/384645/welp-sadakos-trash-thanks-devs
Skill issue .
And don't lie to yourself. You never left wesker , always been sweating with him
it's true that's why i want sadako to be good you know a nice viable killer to make the pool bigger, but hey if you like playing vs 3 killers all day everyday who i am to judge wesker fun asf so it doesn't bother me
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@AhoyWolf said:
They made her a bit better, but the 10 second projection cooldown just kills the fun I had with her.
Instead of doing the global condemned cooldown, like suggessted by many, so she cannot spam her slowdown, they made her unfun instead, I hope people have fun with her, but I won't sadly.
don't worry it's fun for survivors and that's pretty much all the devs care about could i interest you in a killer named wesker?
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everyone loves playing VS wesker 24/7 why buff another kill to add them to the pool nah devs are smart they know survivors just gonna play VS wesker all day everyday wesker is love wesker is life
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We gave them so much feedback and they just ingorned all of it why even have fourms to give feedback in the first place if you're just gonna stare at ur data all day and no where else
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@Gamergirl69OWO said:
Title really, it doesnt take someone with two working braincells to see that BHVR saw Sadako had high killrates last year and decided to destroy her from orbit, now making her one of if not the worst killer in the game.
But why wont they just admit what everyone knows is true
because bhvr is survivor biased wants everyone to play wesker can't have killers being too OP now can we?
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@Kaitsja said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488489#Comment_3488489
You realize you're blatantly wrong. Jolt damages generators for you. Pain Res damages the generator with the most progress. Call of Brine causes generators to regress faster and notifies you when survivors hit a good skill check on that gen. There are more perks that I could list, but I'll just stick to those.
It's not like killer perks are any more earned than survivor perks are.
jolt requres you to down someone and isn't free pain res requries a one of 4 hooks on that map that you might not even get it isn't free call of brine is a poor example because it's dead
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@Reinami said:
Screencap this post.
Killers are starting to use a devour hope build, or the popular, "all hexes build". Almost every game today i have played i have devour hope, if devour kicks in on the 3rd hook, survivors start to just kill themselves on hook or DC instead of looking for the totem. Its going to be the next perk, screencap this.
screenshotted the next killer perk that's getting gutted is devour only fitting to remove what's left of hexes right?
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@nars said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488532#Comment_3488532
lmao he really thought it couldnt be done and you just pull up with an otz video
what are you talking about that isn't even a blight main LOL
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my dude i said at least p30 that isn't a good blight try again
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@Rulebreaker said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488519#Comment_3488519
Yet we've seen it on everyone from wesker and blight to myers and pig. Its nowhere near dead.
no good blight is running corrupt buddy please send screenshots right now i'd love to see this. PS blight must be a least pretige 30 low mmr games don't count
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@Rulebreaker said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488500#Comment_3488500
outta curiosity, how is corrupt even remotely considered dead?
because it switches it self off after you get a down and it's only worthwhile on weaker killers that no one plays. example trapper. it simply isn't worth a perk slot comapred to other killer perks because suprise suprise bhvr killed it. just like they killed ruin. and a bunch of other perks that i'm not gonna bother listing
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@1ettuce said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488481#Comment_3488481
And you're saying S tier surv perks = crutch? Hypocrite. Lmao. Saw it on the hatch post too, whining about free escapes but saying nothing about free 1ks, pretty obvious killer bias
And yes some S tier survivor perks are in fact crutch perks unbreakble free pick with 0 input what so ever after you outplayed and downed
life can get you free distance at a T-L wall even if the killer makes the right read and outplays you
sprint burst get's you free distance for 0 effort what so ever and any killer that isn't wesker or blight can't do anything about it
balanced rewards you for being out positioned just like sprint burst and let's not forget the newest crutch perk made for this free %3 haste for getting OUTPLAYED at a tile again with 0 input for survivor.
all these perks have one thing in common and that's "oh killer outplayed you? too bad down them again" that's a crutch perk now please list all the killer crutch perks that give you things for free with 0 input oh wait you can't because they're are none. killers have to earn their perks survivors don't hexes don't counter either because their able to be switched off forever.
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@1ettuce said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488460#Comment_3488460
1 I'm referring to them in camping situations not in general, hopefully you realize that, because they indeed have no counterplay in camping situations
2 High mmr doesn't exist, and I didn't say that, I just said bad killers make it to endgame which is true. So instead of requesting endgame to be even easier for killer, how about asking for good players to be rewarded and not forced into making it to endgame?
3 Basekit bt doesnt help stop a trade at all and the anti camp feature will be disabled in endgame, so theres still gonna be nothing stopping a killer from guaranteeing a 1k in endgame with that
1 Wrong again if you can't unhook a survivor vs a camping killer with grabs being removed and base kit BT/anti camp you're just bad.
high mmr is a thing just because you're not in it doesn't mean it isn't real And the only reason survivors make to endgame 98% of games is because they have 20 billion built in crutches 4% chase perks gen speeds crutch perks and bad map desgin all working in their favor that way even you suck at survivor you can still make it endgame .
basekit bt does stop trades when the whole team body blocks survivors have control of the match not killer.
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@1ettuce said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3488443#Comment_3488443
1 I didn't notice the part where u said they have counterplay, but no they do not, it's a free 1k when they're camping
2 Because bad killers who make it to endgame shouldn't be able to continuously tunnel? Like a bad killer would?
3 Hardly, because any killer can simply hold out their chainsaw or whatever and just force a trade
1 yes they do that's why their in lower tiers
2 in high mmr gens are getting down no matter how good you play as killer so just because a killer made it to endgame doesn't mean their bad the game is desgined to get to endgame
3 wrong, because bhvr handhold mechainics like base kit BT/ and soon built in deliverance prevent this
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welcome to dbd, endgame is SUPPOST to favor killers to make up for 3 gens poping instanlty after you get your first down sadly bhvr has determined that killers get no advantge ever. here's my advice vs any half decent team the gens are getting down no matter what, with no slowdown to stop them they can just drop every god pallet have their crutch perks carry them in chase and slam the gens in under 5 minutes so just camp the first guy you find to 2nd state or tunnel them out then bring a full endgame build and try to win that way it's pretty much the only thing you can do as killer these days, oh and you also have to use a B tier killer or higher or else you'll just lose because the killer you picked is bad/weak. try wesker he's pretty fun and strong
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buffing other perks won't change the meta survivors are still gonna use sprint burst life/balanced if you want more perks these need to ethier need to have counter or get nerfed.
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@Phantom_ said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3486159#Comment_3486159
Hatch is NOT WINNING. How many people need to tell you that? Put on an aura reading perk if have so much trouble finding 1 survivor and 1 hatch, and stop whining.
it's still a free esacpe
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another easy fix is the finisher mori bhvr already added to that one ptb that would soooo nice pls add
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hatch is bad game desgin delete now that's all i'm saying
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because they crutch on like they did dead hard that's why they care
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@I_am_Negan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3486123#Comment_3486123
Find hatch force them out or close it if you find it first it's not hard.
Waiting at hatch or in the exit gate is the same thing.
Are you sure you're not crying about hatch because you can't get 4k's every match?
how about survivors lose the game after the killer wins? it's not hard to just take the L.
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@MrPsych said:
Survivors don't wait out on the hatch that often. Don't be a baby.
You're asking for fixes on a problem that do not exist. Cocky annoying people will always be annoying and cocky even with a time limit. Let it go and move on.
yes they do every other game
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3486110#Comment_3486110
Did you read the rest of my post that explains why the last survivor not having a viable escape route means the game is severely broken?
Do you want massive killer nerfs that make it practically impossible to down survivors? Because that's what you get if you remove the hatch and turn every game into a 4K after 2 deaths.
i want less waitng and more gameplay that's why i said endgame collapse and hatch should be reworked
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@Phantom_ said:
It's not counted as a win. They just get BP and the game ends. Survivors can "sit" on the hatch, though in my 2-3k hours, I've never seen them do that for longer than 10 seconds, but you can just find them and close it. It's a race for hatch on both sides, whoever finds it first deals with it.
If you don't want to wait that long, guess what? You can OPEN a gate and have EGC start.
that's still a 2 minute waiting time that can be avoided with a rework waiting isn't good game desgin
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@I_am_Negan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3486117#Comment_3486117
So, should we also remove exit gates? Survivors also just don't leave.
They wait there dancing
you know they're there at the gate. so no the hatch on the other hand can spawn anywhere and survivors can just hide in a locker next to it and waste everyones time
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anyway, hatch and end game collapse are just outdated band aid fixes and i hope they re work it one day
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@Hawk81584 said:
hatch is fine
hatch would be fine if survivors would JUST LEAVE but no they don't that so we just remove it if they aint gonna use it
