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Funny, so it’s fine for you to leave the same option for survivor? So we can decide if we want to play vs this nurse.TheXenoborg said:Ah yes, the age old, "FORCE the killer to play with us even though he does not want to play with us so we get our sweet flashlight saves!!!!" thread.
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Seems I did something wrong with my position and have to try again. Maybe I should let them stay for 3 hours in basement just to be sure.
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fake good attitude is not as good as a real one . Their is mutilple Problems attached to fake good attitude. I explain it on a real match. I joined a match with 3 SWF: they started to flame me even before game started with the reason to grief (you gonna be the sacrifice for killer etc). At this point I already leave because I know it’s getting real worse ingame. With endorsement system the survivor now try to start the match without flaming. They want to safe the endorsement points in case they have no chance (no pallet block, no hook farming...) to grief or kill you. So you’re in a very dangerous situation because they can grief you hard before you even know. And yes, with over 3k playing I know this is not even a rare case. Imagine 2 tax consultants for your business: 1 have a really good attitude and wants to help you and 1 have a fake good attitude and want help you as long he can maximize his profit. One guy will backstab you in the next best situation. You can’t know what’s fake or real but which one would you prefer?Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.) -
Nice that you gave up. You lost that anywayVisionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Visionmaker said:Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive *behavior*. You don't get banned for thinking "wow screw that survivor" and then typing Gg instead.Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)Master said:@Visionmaker said:
Badmanone said:Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others.
Having a fake nice attitude is just as good as a real nice attitude. It's not a thought policing system, it's to encourage positive behavior.
Your poor behavior and name calling puts a damper on everyone else's experience in game. Any less of that is a good thing.
I don't know why everyone keeps throwing "abuse" around. It's like no one knows what it means anymore.
Although I do think players should get a few shards for endorsing players, plus a few bonus ones for endorsing the killer (because they have no teammates to be endorsed by.)
I dont think there is a point arguing with that guy
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Instead of just trying to discredit me why you don’t deliver any valid arguments? If you would read correctly that I already delivered valid arguments for abuse. Apart from this you find a massive amount of abusing methods from other player here. So the only Troll i see is you. Your whole sentences are meaningless phrases. You still didn’t answered my question. Is it worth to create a new system that with a high probability add no further value but create a massive amount of new problems?Master said:@Badmanone said:
Master said:@Badmanone said:
No but itMaster said:
@Badmanone said: Nickenzie said:
Badmanone said:
* it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
Number 1: It can't abused because SWF can't endorse each other. If you know any other way to abuse it then tell me!
Number 2: I think something is wrong with you when you said that because it sounds to me you want DbD to become a more toxic environment, isn't what we wanna prevent as a community?
Number 3: Yeah @Badmanone I'll deal with the sexual/######### comments, death threats, cancer wishing on my family, and racist comments... Additionally it's not manipulating anyone, it's supposed to ENCOURAGE players to behave more civilized. Even after the endorsement update, there's literally nothing stopping you from being toxic but if you want more stuff then act more civilized.
* think a Minute about it and imagine what will most likely happen
What is wrong with you? You’re playing a game with the job hook survivor. What you imagine will happen. They wont like it. btw you can already dodge harassment and all these #########. Game is over, just leave it, done. It’s your own fault if you always stay in lobby to catch such a ######### and then you come here into Forum to cry how bad these survivor are. I can’t hear this anymore. Harassment was always part of DbD and it will always be but theirs already a counter for it. JUST LEAVE and stop crying.
Better watch your attitude
Will you enlight us and explain how it can be abused or are you just trashtalking?
I won’t because Iam not Jesus explain you every single #########. The ppl should use her own brain. Then most threads won’t be created like this one. Their is not such a thing like unintentional harassment. In DbD it’s perfectly solved. Their is no attack surface. Their is only 1 game chat after game is done, leave it. It’s more you that try to troll/trashtalk and want maybe some free shards. Their is no other reason to support such a idea.
Maybe you should use your brain to type.
And yeah, you just confirmed that you are just a troll, fine
Based on my arguments you had at least 4 options left. 1. write nothing 2. trashtalk and try to discredit me 3. say that Iam right 4. tryhard and deliver some low arguements. While 3. was the most brave and also respectful path you decided to be like joe average toxic player. So you show your real face and Proof for everyone that I hurt you hard. 2. was your Choice. Thank you salty kid and now get the [BAD WORD] off from my lawn!!!
I only see a troll bashing an idea saying that it can be abused. When requesting what he actually means the troll refuses to give details and starts insulting
I am done with this conversation btw
for you again: Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others. Playing SWF is less rewarding and put you in a slight disadvantage. But that’s what the game made for. If you look to other games that already used such System far before overwatch you gonna find a lot other problem bonded to it. So you want to create a system that is not nessecary, just to create a lot more problems that devs have to fight instead of doing their job and balancing the real problems like DS? Ok... -
Your first post was not just the question if this is reportable, it was also a try to get ppl on your side and show everyone your rights. Also your question is more based on a rhetorical question (they are nearly dead, i lose 50k, he only have 2k). the well known forum member removeswf told you within the few posts that’s not reportable. Instead of just sticking to this and close the thread you gonna continue with crying. You say how unfair this is and how you deserve this win and so on. Now you even try to discredit me just because I told you the same like removeswf. If this is not a salty childish behavior I don’t know. I provide arguements. This is not a reportable offense - that’s a fact. Apart from this you DIDNT DELIVERED any arguments. Continue with your whining attitude and ignore this. This forum doesn’t need such #########.BigFudge said:
Wasn’t asking for your opinion or help. Tbh I don’t think you’ve contributed anything of substance at all other than trying to provoke an argument.Badmanone said:Adult conversation with salty tears in your eyes? This wont work. You’re asking other guys in a forum about their opinion/help while you don’t accept anything else than your own opinion. What do you think should happen here?
My question was, based on the situation, is this behaviour reportable or not, that’s it. Turns out the other guy left in the end so not sure where u think these salty tears are?
Having seen some of your other comments in previous threads I have no desire to hear or respond to any more of your rude and deluded rantings. Go try insult someone else, laters 👍🏻 -
Adult conversation with salty tears in your eyes? This wont work. You’re asking other guys in a forum about their opinion/help while you don’t accept anything else than your own opinion. What do you think should happen here?
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Only right decision to fight toxicity on both sides. Survivor proof it for OP.RemoveSWF said:I never talk in the post-game chat.
You are not entitled to a conversation.
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As a ex-WoW player i know that toxicity was far worse then DbD. They fixed it with banning but what most ppl forget is about the economic factor. In WoW have a much higher income per player. In DbD bans will never work.
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Why do you think is his victory less worth? For example I don’t need any blood points more, I could mb need xp for shards and ranking. I wouldn’t give this away just because you think your points are more worth than anything else. Deal with it whiny killer.BigFudge said:RemoveSWF said:@BigFudge said:
If I’m the one who manages to get stuck somewhere as killer I’ll let the survivors do their thing and escape, and as survivor I’ll leave as I’M the one who is stuck. It’s just the decent thing to do.plus this guy only stands to lose 2-3k, I’ve worked hard, won the match and have 50k to lose. Why should the survivor be rewarded for a poor match which they would have had no chance of surviving?
Looks like dat zurvivor ain't respectin' yer Code of Honor™ there, son.
But devs ban people based on the rules of Dead by Daylight, not rules made up by salty players on the forum.
What rules have I made up? Im not asking for them to be banned, but they are the one who refuses to leave purposefully to rob another player of any points in a match.
If I was stuck there would be a way for both parties to get points and for the match to end. This way there is not. I’ve tried talking to this player via message but they are happy to ‘wait for me to quit’. -
Get over it salty killer. You both could end this and it wasn’t his fault. BP don’t count in that case.
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Based on my arguments you had at least 4 options left. 1. write nothing 2. trashtalk and try to discredit me 3. say that Iam right 4. tryhard and deliver some low arguements. While 3. was the most brave and also respectful path you decided to be like joe average toxic player. So you show your real face and Proof for everyone that I hurt you hard. 2. was your Choice. Thank you salty kid and now get the ######### off from my lawn!!!Master said:@Badmanone said:
No but itMaster said:
@Badmanone said:Nickenzie said:
Badmanone said:
* it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
Number 1: It can't abused because SWF can't endorse each other. If you know any other way to abuse it then tell me!
Number 2: I think something is wrong with you when you said that because it sounds to me you want DbD to become a more toxic environment, isn't what we wanna prevent as a community?
Number 3: Yeah @Badmanone I'll deal with the sexual/######### comments, death threats, cancer wishing on my family, and racist comments... Additionally it's not manipulating anyone, it's supposed to ENCOURAGE players to behave more civilized. Even after the endorsement update, there's literally nothing stopping you from being toxic but if you want more stuff then act more civilized.
* think a Minute about it and imagine what will most likely happen
* What is wrong with you? You’re playing a game with the job hook survivor. What you imagine will happen. They wont like it. btw you can already dodge harassment and all these #########. Game is over, just leave it, done. It’s your own fault if you always stay in lobby to catch such a ######### and then you come here into Forum to cry how bad these survivor are. I can’t hear this anymore. Harassment was always part of DbD and it will always be but theirs already a counter for it. JUST LEAVE and stop crying.
* Better watch your attitudeWill you enlight us and explain how it can be abused or are you just trashtalking?
I won’t because Iam not Jesus explain you every single #########. The ppl should use her own brain. Then most threads won’t be created like this one. Their is not such a thing like unintentional harassment. In DbD it’s perfectly solved. Their is no attack surface. Their is only 1 game chat after game is done, leave it. It’s more you that try to troll/trashtalk and want maybe some free shards. Their is no other reason to support such a idea.
Maybe you should use your brain to type.
And yeah, you just confirmed that you are just a troll, fine -
I also had often survivors that said gg when I killed everyone. But I’m not the joe average camper killer so i think the people enjoy it to have a challenge instead of waiting for her death 120 sec at hook. If i camp hard for whatever reason they often flame me. When I play as survivor, killers are often mad when they get only 1 kill. Sometimes they say gg if they have 2-3 kills.
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The survivor behavior very mature and nice. Ignoring a salty mad childish guy is the only way to handle such a situation then. I never write such a ######### as killer if I get at least not provocated.KillingInstinct said:Well, I tried talking to them but don't really get why they didn't even say gg.
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Yes exactly. Means hooking becomes a no brainer. That’s what make the good difference between a pro and a average killer. A pro killer doesn’t lose his prey on his way to hook. I have already to many killer comrades play with me on rank 1... like it’s a free reward for everyone playing enough. Also that’s not all about hook from free angle.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
Just take a minute, think about what you said and imagine what will happen if killers can hook from every angle.Hm... Killers will be able to hook from every angle, thus making it impossible for Survivors to block the hook prompt but still able to bodyblock on the way to the hook?
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15-30 sec per gen is ideally in a toxic environment. I imagine the situation when a SWF is doing a gen and the other is standing in front of the box to tbag you. Man that’s fun.Orion said:@Salty_Pearl said:
@Orion said:
@Eninya said:
I like her, but the Ambush is weak, so she's really not stealthy at all after the beginning of the game. Many games you can't afford to waste precious seconds on sneaking around, or gambling on the really weak and telegraphed Ambush attack.I dunno, I can usually get off a few ambushes, even at the end of the game.
Her RBTs are weaker than her ambush in my opinion.
Oh, definitely. The only buff they need, IMO, is having them start immediately, with a shorter timer (say, 30 seconds less). The add-on that removes the boxes' highlights can be nerfed to increase the timer, to compensate, and the add-on that currently does that (starts the timer immediately) can be changed to have each completed generator shorten the timer by a set amount (somewhere between 15 and 30 seconds would be ideal, IMO; the exact number would require experimenting and tweaking).
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Glad to see that here are some ppl that see how it is. It will be just a abused system and provide no further value. Apart from this theirs nearly no toxicity, only ingame and theirs no chance to fix this. Survivor will tbag as long they want and killers will shackle their head for 5 minutes if they want it. Same ######### every day but that’s DbD. In my opinion most are greedy for shards. Then ask directly for a increased reward.
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Ok i explain it: just because I want to see your stupid face and how you try to type something against it to be right. People will abuse it by put on a fake personality, so not the real nice person get endorsed only the one with the best (fake) attitude for others. Playing SWF is less rewarding and put you in a slight disadvantage. But that’s what the game made for. If you look to other games that already used such System far before overwatch you gonna find a lot other problem bonded to it. So you want to create a system that is not nessecary, just to create a lot more problems that devs have to fight instead of doing their job and balancing the real problems like DS? Ok...
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No but itMaster said:
I won’t because Iam not Jesus explain you every single #########. The ppl should use her own brain. Then most threads won’t be created like this one. Their is not such a thing like unintentional harassment. In DbD it’s perfectly solved. Their is no attack surface. Their is only 1 game chat after game is done, leave it. It’s more you that try to troll/trashtalk and want maybe some free shards. Their is no other reason to support such a idea.@Badmanone said:
Nickenzie said:
Badmanone said:it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
Number 1: It can't abused because SWF can't endorse each other. If you know any other way to abuse it then tell me!
Number 2: I think something is wrong with you when you said that because it sounds to me you want DbD to become a more toxic environment, isn't what we wanna prevent as a community?
Number 3: Yeah @Badmanone I'll deal with the sexual/######### comments, death threats, cancer wishing on my family, and racist comments... Additionally it's not manipulating anyone, it's supposed to ENCOURAGE players to behave more civilized. Even after the endorsement update, there's literally nothing stopping you from being toxic but if you want more stuff then act more civilized.- think a Minute about it and imagine what will most likely happen
- What is wrong with you? You’re playing a game with the job hook survivor. What you imagine will happen. They wont like it. btw you can already dodge harassment and all these #########. Game is over, just leave it, done. It’s your own fault if you always stay in lobby to catch such a ######### and then you come here into Forum to cry how bad these survivor are. I can’t hear this anymore. Harassment was always part of DbD and it will always be but theirs already a counter for it. JUST LEAVE and stop crying.
- Better watch your attitude
Will you enlight us and explain how it can be abused or are you just trashtalking?
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1. think a Minute about it and imagine what will most likely happenNickenzie said:
Number 1: It can't abused because SWF can't endorse each other. If you know any other way to abuse it then tell me!Badmanone said:1. it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
Number 2: I think something is wrong with you when you said that because it sounds to me you want DbD to become a more toxic environment, isn't what we wanna prevent as a community?
Number 3: Yeah @Badmanone I'll deal with the sexual/######### comments, death threats, cancer wishing on my family, and racist comments... Additionally it's not manipulating anyone, it's supposed to ENCOURAGE players to behave more civilized. Even after the endorsement update, there's literally nothing stopping you from being toxic but if you want more stuff then act more civilized.
2. What is wrong with you? You’re playing a game with the job hook survivor. What you imagine will happen. They wont like it. btw you can already dodge harassment and all these #########. Game is over, just leave it, done. It’s your own fault if you always stay in lobby to catch such a ######### and then you come here into Forum to cry how bad these survivor are. I can’t hear this anymore. Harassment was always part of DbD and it will always be but theirs already a counter for it. JUST LEAVE and stop crying.
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Just take a minute, think about what you said and imagine what will happen if killers can hook from every angle.Master said:@Dwight_Confusion said:
Stop complaining. OMG.The hook is fine the way it is. 1 way to hook. 1 way to body block...
swivel unhooks. It works just stop crying.
Hooking is not fine. It feels really weird when you slide in front of the hook to deliver yout victim and its really glitchy when survivors bodyblock the hook (in fact they can prevent you from hooking)
Instead killers should be able to hook from all angles, just the same mechanic that was introduce to make facecamping impossible -
If you mean that you hit 3 and then you release the on you’re holding? If that’s even enough, you have 4 injured survivors and you must be very bad if you get at least not 1 kill. It’s not abused it’s a tactic. You have to risk a lot to get at least and that’s not guaranteed 1 free survivor. I had enough games were I wiped out the whole team with this tactic. So stop Body blocking would affect me negative.Tsulan said:@Badmanone said:
popoles said:I just don't understand, why survivors can block the prompt to hook someone, but killers can't block the prompt to rescue someone.
Also, it doesn't make sense. Normal killer would kick the survivors anyway.This was once the case when survivor couldn’t unhook from every angle. It was a massively abused problem by killers. They just stand in front of survivor and did nothing until he died.
You mean, massivly abused like hook blocking by survivors?
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This was once the case when survivor couldn’t unhook from every angle. It was a massively abused problem by killers. They just stand in front of survivor and did nothing until he died.popoles said:I just don't understand, why survivors can block the prompt to hook someone, but killers can't block the prompt to rescue someone.
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1. it would be abused 2. we don’t Need it 3. just deal with it because it was always part of the game instead of trying manipulate ppl
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Omg that’s too much now! I didn’t see that someone glorify leatherface so far or even the real person he’s based on. Also other games or movies was completly 1:1 based on psychopaths and I never heard that someone was glorified by ppl. Why should be DbD different?AshleyWB said:Donald Trump -
The first few days/weeks after DbD was released their was 2v8 matches. For me it was very fun but I can’t say if it was balanced. Their was not much different characters and few perks. Most didnt know how to maximize everything out of their character. For me it would be a nice trail to see this as special event and maybe it’s not that worse how we may imagine.
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btw we killers are not entilted to get a free kill. we have to work for it.
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@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
If you want it to be "fair", also give directionnal hooks to killers then ?lol wut? you wanted vacuum pallet deleted. doing the same to hooks is just fair. hooks are not directional, thats why they are hooks. do you want a carousel or what?
btw iam main killer.
Hooks are directional for survivors, and not for killers. That's all I say.
If you want "real fairness" without second thinking about actual mecanics, then yeah, removing the vacuum would be nice, and adding directional hooks for killers too.no why? why would that be fair? look how many hooks you have on map. if you cant get a hook this way youre definately doing something wrong.
That's just applying your logic of "fairness". "If you remove X for survivor, remove it for killers too", so I just say "if you allow X for survivors, allow it for killers too".
If you have trouble accepting that, you're kinda biased in your reasoning, and you just want to nerf one side, simply. There's no "fairness" in that.ok and why should they get carousel hooks? if i follow your logic survivors should have something thats smiliar to it? even when thats not my logic, i would just prefer to balance it at all and that means it have to be a equal game experience for both sides. i think killers have a safe 95% chance to hook guy, why should they get another advantages? that make the hook thing nearly useless and they should just get insta hooked random. dont know.
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No. Because it was made with unhooks because killer could just facecamp blockingFrenziedRoach said:You can remove hook vacuum the day we can hook from any direction... just like unhooks
Fair?
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Ok
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Bro but we killers already have 5m tentacles arms.
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Yes it’s asymmetrical game also for me but that doesn’t mean it have to be unbalanced or even not challenging. This „asymmetrical game thing“ shouldn’t be always the argument to allow everything for killer. Otherwise he should be able to break pallets before they fall down or destroy a gen so hard that survivors can’t never escape. It’s already asymmetrical in fact that the killer can kill the survivor and the survivor not the killer. That’s what the game is for me. When you say „you even know...“ it sounds like a provocation. Like always...Orion said:@Badmanone said:
the same counts for killer. He can „vacuum“ into safe spots from where its impossible to counter him. He don’t have to roam area and gonna miss the part of the game when picking up and downing is a tactical thing. It’s like another part of it has been stolen. The game could be much more.The Killer is supposed to be the power role, so that "safe spot" thing doesn't apply.
Do you know what an asymmetrical game is, at all? I already don't believe you've played the game, but now I'm questioning whether you even know what the game is.
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the same counts for killer. He can „vacuum“ into safe spots from where its impossible to counter him. He don’t have to roam area and gonna miss the part of the game when picking up and downing is a tactical thing. It’s like another part of it has been stolen. The game could be much more.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
I also could ask, why shouldn’t a survivor be able to sneak into hidings where the killer can’t follow. Like 2 massive rocks. Don’t get me wrong guys. I really want a balanced game for all and I think SC, DS, SB and a few other things need nerfs but we also need to rework killer. Some maps also need to reworked because they are too survivor friendly.Because that would make them safe spots for Survivors, which should not exist if the game is to be balanced. Your question has now been answered, can you answer mine?
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I also could ask, why shouldn’t a survivor be able to sneak into hidings where the killer can’t follow. Like 2 massive rocks. Don’t get me wrong guys. I really want a balanced game for all and I think SC, DS, SB and a few other things need nerfs but we also need to rework killer. Some maps also need to reworked because they are too survivor friendly.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
Btw I think also grab vacuum is a problem. Even when it’s patched a bit you have still the chance to get a broken positioning like out of pallets. I wouldn’t mind a grab vacuum but it should work like that killer walk to point of middle of survivors body to grab him.Why should the massive, supernatural-empowered Killer not be allowed to drag a Survivor out of wherever he is?
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Btw I think also grab vacuum is a problem. Even when it’s patched a bit you have still the chance to get a broken positioning like out of pallets. I wouldn’t mind a grab vacuum but it should work like that killer walk to point of middle of survivors body to grab him.
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If you ignore anything else what I previously said, than you tear out of context.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
It’s just that you’re talking every single game to buff killers and nerf survivors. That’s just a subjective point of view. That doesn’t help to make the game balanced. That’s why you are the one bullshitting every thread. How are swivel hooks any problem? I never said they don’t have them. How you come to this conclusion? I just said that killers shouldnt get carousel hooks. Means he can hook from different positions that has nothing to do with survivors.Your words:
"ok and why should they get carousel hooks? if i follow your logic survivors should have something thats smiliar to it?"If that's not what you meant to say, then you need to explain yourself better. I'll ignore everything else you said.
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You explained very well a few problems. Also it’s not like you get free rescue when it’s removed. In 99% of the case you gonna be hooked anyway without help.Twix said:All I see from this thread is salty killers that love buffs, but when a small change (hook vacuum) is considered they go mad.
Hook vacuum is a thing. You can use it to interrupt DS (not that it matters, because DS is getting changed) and you can use it hook slightly faster - I’ve had games where I get to 99.9% struggle bar and because of hook vacuum I can’t escape. I’ve also had games were I block the hook and the killer can still hook the survivor through hook vacuum. -
TheXenoborg said:“Killers are not entitled to free kills, they should work for it.” Ah yes so is DS fair? Let’s apply your ‘logic’ to this.Orion said:
@Badmanone said:
It’s just that you’re talking every single game to buff killers and nerf survivors. That’s just a subjective point of view. That doesn’t help to make the game balanced. That’s why you are the one bullshitting every thread. How are swivel hooks any problem? I never said they don’t have them. How you come to this conclusion? I just said that killers shouldnt get carousel hooks. Means he can hook from different positions that has nothing to do with survivors.Your words:
"ok and why should they get carousel hooks? if i follow your logic survivors should have something thats smiliar to it?"If that's not what you meant to say, then you need to explain yourself better. I'll ignore everything else you said.
Mate I think the same, DS is too broken. I don’t disagree and it have to be fixed. I can’t add nothing further here. How you come to the conclusion that i think DS is fine?TheXenoborg said:“Killers are not entitled to free kills, they should work for it.” Ah yes so is DS fair? Let’s apply your ‘logic’ to this. -
It’s just that you’re talking every single game to buff killers and nerf survivors. That’s just a subjective point of view. That doesn’t help to make the game balanced. That’s why you are the one bullshitting every thread. How are swivel hooks any problem? I never said they don’t have them. How you come to this conclusion? I just said that killers shouldnt get carousel hooks. Means he can hook from different positions that has nothing to do with survivors.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
I don’t wonder that you have to add bullshit again. You don’t even get better rank 10. if you think that downing a survivor means free kill, than he should just die. Something like a free mori. But devs want you to earn your kill on every single step. Means you have to get him to hook, protecting your prey or hunt him again if it’s nessecary. That’s the game and that’s how it’s intended to work. Vacuum hook is a problem like big killer Hitbox and like vacuum pallets was. These things should not work this way.You're the one adding bullshit. I've made no statements even tangentially related to anything you just said. I literally just said that Survivors have had swivel hooks for a long time, to disprove your claim that they didn't.
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I don’t wonder that you have to add bullshit again. You don’t even get better rank 10. if you think that downing a survivor means free kill, than he should just die. Something like a free mori. But devs want you to earn your kill on every single step. Means you have to get him to hook, protecting your prey or hunt him again if it’s nessecary. That’s the game and that’s how it’s intended to work. Vacuum hook is a problem like big killer Hitbox and like vacuum pallets was. These things should not work this way.Orion said:@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
If you want it to be "fair", also give directionnal hooks to killers then ?lol wut? you wanted vacuum pallet deleted. doing the same to hooks is just fair. hooks are not directional, thats why they are hooks. do you want a carousel or what?
btw iam main killer.
Hooks are directional for survivors, and not for killers. That's all I say.
If you want "real fairness" without second thinking about actual mecanics, then yeah, removing the vacuum would be nice, and adding directional hooks for killers too.no why? why would that be fair? look how many hooks you have on map. if you cant get a hook this way youre definately doing something wrong.
That's just applying your logic of "fairness". "If you remove X for survivor, remove it for killers too", so I just say "if you allow X for survivors, allow it for killers too".
If you have trouble accepting that, you're kinda biased in your reasoning, and you just want to nerf one side, simply. There's no "fairness" in that.ok and why should they get carousel hooks? if i follow your logic survivors should have something thats smiliar to it? even when thats not my logic, i would just prefer to balance it at all and that means it have to be a equal game experience for both sides. i think killers have a safe 95% chance to hook someone. no killer is entilted to free kills. we have to work for it.
Survivors do have swivel hooks. They were introduced a long time ago. Do you even own this game?
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@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
If you want it to be "fair", also give directionnal hooks to killers then ?lol wut? you wanted vacuum pallet deleted. doing the same to hooks is just fair. hooks are not directional, thats why they are hooks. do you want a carousel or what?
btw iam main killer.
Hooks are directional for survivors, and not for killers. That's all I say.
If you want "real fairness" without second thinking about actual mecanics, then yeah, removing the vacuum would be nice, and adding directional hooks for killers too.no why? why would that be fair? look how many hooks you have on map. if you cant get a hook this way youre definately doing something wrong.
That's just applying your logic of "fairness". "If you remove X for survivor, remove it for killers too", so I just say "if you allow X for survivors, allow it for killers too".
If you have trouble accepting that, you're kinda biased in your reasoning, and you just want to nerf one side, simply. There's no "fairness" in that.ok and why should they get carousel hooks? if i follow your logic survivors should have something thats smiliar to it? even when thats not my logic, i would just prefer to balance it at all and that means it have to be a equal game experience for both sides. i think killers have a safe 95% chance to hook someone. no killer is entilted to free kills. we have to work for it.
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
I hope you're making a distinction between whining and legitimate complaints about the game, because if there's an issue that needs to be worked out, the community should voice it.if just 1% of the whiners have legitimate complaints, than this game has to be completly broken. its such an absurd amount of "complaints".
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@samirk98 said:
I cannot find anyone as Killer in my lobby i waiting 30 minutes no one joins
but at the night time i find it instantly (like really late around 2-3 am) Is it going to be fixed ? Because currently playing as survivor is not fun anymore thanksthats normal since the last updates. you need 4 survivor but just 1 killer for the game. we have too much killers because they overpower survivor atm.
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how you want to solve it, when you dont speak about it? you crying baby
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@Runiver said:
@Badmanone said:
@Runiver said:
If you want it to be "fair", also give directionnal hooks to killers then ?lol wut? you wanted vacuum pallet deleted. doing the same to hooks is just fair. hooks are not directional, thats why they are hooks. do you want a carousel or what?
btw iam main killer.
Hooks are directional for survivors, and not for killers. That's all I say.
If you want "real fairness" without second thinking about actual mecanics, then yeah, removing the vacuum would be nice, and adding directional hooks for killers too.no why? why would that be fair? look how many hooks you have on map. if you cant get a hook this way youre definately doing something wrong.
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@Runiver said:
If you want it to be "fair", also give directionnal hooks to killers then ?lol wut? you wanted vacuum pallet deleted. doing the same to hooks is just fair. hooks are not directional, thats why they are hooks. do you want a carousel or what?
btw iam main killer.
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omg 2 babies crying again.
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@Rozenlied said:
So, I used to main survivors for a long time, and I didn't play the killer side for a long time.
I won't lie: I used to and I still loop and abuse flashlights when I play them, but Jesus Christ, I played killed today just to be harrassed by 3 premade players abusing flashlights and pallet looping.I passed at least 2/10 of the trial time being blinded, and another 1/10 being looped. I was playing Huntress and even with a good aim, I couldn't put any survivor on the hook for the majority of the game because the other two teammates of the one I downed would blind me from both sides.
Also, they started harrassing me for abusing lagswitch. First of all, they started the game with 300+ ping each, and there was only one dude that had a decent ping in my room. All of them except that one were really laggy for me, and the one that harrassed me the most was a Claudette that was almost teleporting. Besides teleporting, she had Dead Hard, so it was almost impossible for me to hit her.
I would like to talk about SWF too, but the Devs don't seem to care about it and they still think SWF is healthy for the game.
youre writting just too much. heres the short answer: git gud and come back.