Skull merchant is now the worst killer in the game officially

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  • memento mori were also gutted, such a huge nerf for mori users 😨

  • Shes not. I've gone up against good SM. What they do is place drones in high traffic areas where it's hard to hack her drones. Initiate chase and basically bait the survivor to run into all your drones. Claw trapped and downed. Simple. I dislike how people complain about changes, but don't try to adapt to them. She's still gonna be brain dead when it comes to getting value from her power. You place a drone. If not hacked, survivor runs into it. Bam scanned.

    She was a pain to go against. Now, there's just more counter play for survivor. and I also play SM when I feel like killer games aren't going my way with my normal picks. I use the same strat, and there's nothing the survivors can do about it cause they can't hack my drones lol. Nothing is going to change except the haste. Which really needed to go. Wasn't fair if she chases you and is faster cause your other teammates got scanned.

    Hope you use this strat. Have a good day.

  • nice, dbd got more enjoyable then

  • @Royval said:

    they gutted her 😞

    Freddy Kruger would like a word with you

  • You misspelled "Freddy".

    SM is bad but a Freddy is a special case…

  • @Xernoton said:

    You misspelled "Freddy".

    SM is bad but a Freddy is a special case…

    I thought I had convinced ya he is not the worst, my friend.

  • @JonahofArk said:

    Shes not. I've gone up against good SM. What they do is place drones in high traffic areas where it's hard to hack her drones. Initiate chase and basically bait the survivor to run into all your drones. Claw trapped and downed. Simple. I dislike how people complain about changes, but don't try to adapt to them. She's still gonna be brain dead when it comes to getting value from her power. You place a drone. If not hacked, survivor runs into it. Bam scanned.

    She was a pain to go against. Now, there's just more counter play for survivor. and I also play SM when I feel like killer games aren't going my way with my normal picks. I use the same strat, and there's nothing the survivors can do about it cause they can't hack my drones lol. Nothing is going to change except the haste. Which really needed to go. Wasn't fair if she chases you and is faster cause your other teammates got scanned.

    Hope you use this strat. Have a good day.

    I dunno really, the fact that they're removing one whole scanline from the drones is just going to make her complete ass to play ass because that's basically half the drone's coverage gone. The only way they can make it work is if they majorly increase the rotation speed on the scanline for it to work since now with the proposed changes, you kinda get nothing out of scanning survivors for the first two times.

  • @GeneralV said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797802#Comment_3797802

    I thought I had convinced ya he is not the worst, my friend.

    You can convince me of many things but Freddy is a tragic story and I can't place him anywhere else than at the very bottom.

    I find it much easier to believe that the 3 Freddy mains out there are just so good at the game. 😘

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    nice, dbd got more enjoyable then

    This forum in a nutshell:

    Survivors: Happy skull merchant is now also nerfed so hard, that noone will ever pick her and I'll never see her again

    Also survivors: Opening thread why they only go up against the same 4 killers all the time.

  • @SkeletonDance said:

    memento mori were also gutted, such a huge nerf for mori users 😨

    Good thing I just run Rancor on Ghostface instead of use Moris… Sigh. :(

  • @Xernoton said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797850#Comment_3797850

    You can convince me of many things but Freddy is a tragic story and I can't place him anywhere else than at the very bottom.

    I find it much easier to believe that the 3 Freddy mains out there are just so good at the game. 😘

    7 Freddy mains, if I recall correctly. But I wouldn't be surprised if the number has changed since last time.

  • Aww I'm so sad, anyways…

  • @JonahofArk said:

    Shes not. I've gone up against good SM. What they do is place drones in high traffic areas where it's hard to hack her drones. Initiate chase and basically bait the survivor to run into all your drones. Claw trapped and downed. Simple. I dislike how people complain about changes, but don't try to adapt to them. She's still gonna be brain dead when it comes to getting value from her power. You place a drone. If not hacked, survivor runs into it. Bam scanned.

    She was a pain to go against. Now, there's just more counter play for survivor. and I also play SM when I feel like killer games aren't going my way with my normal picks. I use the same strat, and there's nothing the survivors can do about it cause they can't hack my drones lol. Nothing is going to change except the haste. Which really needed to go. Wasn't fair if she chases you and is faster cause your other teammates got scanned.

    Hope you use this strat. Have a good day.

    She's like half a killer now, bro. She actually has nothing going for her. She already had plenty of counterplay, and like you said she now has more.

  • @SweetbutaPsycho said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797721#Comment_3797721

    This forum in a nutshell:

    Survivors: Happy skull merchant is now also nerfed so hard, that noone will ever pick her and I'll never see her again

    Also survivors: Opening thread why they only go up against the same 4 killers all the time.

    i will glady have a slight less variety of killers :3, there is no excuse for how unfun skull merchant is.

  • @GeneralV said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797802#Comment_3797802

    I thought I had convinced ya he is not the worst, my friend.

    I think they also forgot that Trapper exists too…

  • Even though I heavily dislike SM because she is a mess, this was too much even for her.

    At the very least, roll back the Drone nerfs. No one asked for those.

  • R.I.P Skull Merchant, hopefully you'll be more enjoyable in your next life.

  • Okay as someone who plays Trapper you have to stop saying "X killer is the worst killer in the game" every time they get a nerf

    No killer will ever be as bad as Trapper is except arguably Freddy.

    You cannot compare a killer who(even with the proposed changes) will still be able to go undetectable at will, injure survivors across obstacles, hit and run without hitting, potentially instadown with two taps, etc. and who starts with her power in hand at the start and doesn't even have to go and collect it to a killer who has to pick his power up off the ground every time.

  • @JonahofArk said:

    Shes not. I've gone up against good SM. What they do is place drones in high traffic areas where it's hard to hack her drones. Initiate chase and basically bait the survivor to run into all your drones. Claw trapped and downed. Simple. I dislike how people complain about changes, but don't try to adapt to them. She's still gonna be brain dead when it comes to getting value from her power. You place a drone. If not hacked, survivor runs into it. Bam scanned.

    She was a pain to go against. Now, there's just more counter play for survivor. and I also play SM when I feel like killer games aren't going my way with my normal picks. I use the same strat, and there's nothing the survivors can do about it cause they can't hack my drones lol. Nothing is going to change except the haste. Which really needed to go. Wasn't fair if she chases you and is faster cause your other teammates got scanned.

    Hope you use this strat. Have a good day.

    You must hate trapper

  • @Merciless_Killer said:

    Okay as someone who plays Trapper you have to stop saying "X killer is the worst killer in the game" every time they get a nerf

    No killer will ever be as bad as Trapper is except arguably Freddy.

    You cannot compare a killer who(even with the proposed changes) will still be able to go undetectable at will, injure survivors across obstacles, hit and run without hitting, potentially instadown with two taps, etc. and who starts with her power in hand at the start and doesn't even have to go and collect it to a killer who has to pick his power up off the ground every time.

    Mmm no Skull Merchant takes the cake now. A purely M1 killer with no way to realistically injure, pressure, or down survivors outside of an M1 and being slightly shorter than trapper.

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    nice, dbd got more enjoyable then

    Not good. People that enjoy her got punished. What if your characters got destroyed this hard? Would you be happy? Nerfing a killer this bad just to see them vanish from matches is such awful practice. Just take a look at Freddy.

  • @GeneralV said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797802#Comment_3797802

    I thought I had convinced ya he is not the worst, my friend.

    The practise seems very familiar though. Nerfing a killer so much without compensation that they vanish from matches, making them less of a "problem". I very much dislike this.

  • @HamsterEnjoyer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798401#Comment_3798401

    Mmm no Skull Merchant takes the cake now. A purely M1 killer with no way to realistically injure, pressure, or down survivors outside of an M1 and being slightly shorter than trapper.

    You'll still be able to tag people. 3 lock on stacks will still injure. As well as being able to sneak up on people with undetectable. Trapper is still leagues below where ptb skully will be. I say that as someone who mains Trapper

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  • Nerfing her movement speed was enough. They went overkill

  • her undetectable so short tho, 10 secs and requires you do destroy and put a drone down again.

  • @radiantHero23 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797850#Comment_3797850

    The practise seems very familiar though. Nerfing a killer so much without compensation that they vanish from matches, making them less of a "problem". I very much dislike this.

    True, but I am not sure if this is what happened to Freddy.

    Back then I was against the idea of nerfing him because it wouldn't fix his actual problem, which was and still is the fact he's uninspired and simply not an interesting killer. But his reworked power really wasn't healthy for the game. Spamming Dream Snares and getting your Dream World slowdown for free with Jump Rope and Swing Chains wasn't fun for anyone involved.

    But now, with Skull Merchant? Now it looks like she will be bad until the rework to minimize the number of complaints.

  • @SweetbutaPsycho said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3797721#Comment_3797721

    This forum in a nutshell:

    Survivors: Happy skull merchant is now also nerfed so hard, that noone will ever pick her and I'll never see her again

    Also survivors: Opening thread why they only go up against the same 4 killers all the time.

    that’s why I say we should all start playing perkless addonless offeringless trapper every game and comply with every complaint survivors make about our play styles, so no tunneling camping gen protecting or anything that could be considered “unfun” for survivors. Just to see how long it takes for people to complain the game is boring.

    If we give them what they want all the time they will get bored of having everything, and having nothing to achieve.

  • This is an overall W from devs. Very good news.

    If you enjoyed her or mained her, thats on you. She's by far one if not the most boring killer to face. I don't feel bad at all.

    Hopefully she never gets reworked or revived from this state and she disappears into the void. Awful killer design.

  • @GeneralV said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798438#Comment_3798438

    True, but I am not sure if this is what happened to Freddy.

    Back then I was against the idea of nerfing him because it wouldn't fix his actual problem, which was and still is the fact he's uninspired and simply not an interesting killer. But his reworked power really wasn't healthy for the game. Spamming Dream Snares and getting your Dream World slowdown for free with Jump Rope and Swing Chains wasn't fun for anyone involved.

    But now, with Skull Merchant? Now it looks like she will be bad until the rework to minimize the number of complaints.

    I agree with this my friend 💯!

    Also! So good to see you! ☺️

  • @MechWarrior3 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798669#Comment_3798669

    I agree with this my friend 💯!

    Also! So good to see you! ☺️

    Good to see ya, friend!

  • Seeing the Drones rotate with only one Scan Line is going to look so stupid.

  • @ReverseVelocity said:

    Seeing the Drones rotate with only one Scan Line is going to look so stupid.

    can’t look goofier than finess on a pallet, that look goofy as hell

  • @Merciless_Killer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798411#Comment_3798411

    You'll still be able to tag people. 3 lock on stacks will still injure. As well as being able to sneak up on people with undetectable. Trapper is still leagues below where ptb skully will be. I say that as someone who mains Trapper

    You will NOT be injuring anyone with lock on with new skully lol. If you get a lock on injure it will be from the worst noob survivors imaginable

  • @HamsterEnjoyer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798454#Comment_3798454

    You will NOT be injuring anyone with lock on with new skully lol. If you get a lock on injure it will be from the worst noob survivors imaginable

    Why not? What part of this makes it impossible?

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798019#Comment_3798019

    There is plenty of variety in the killers you face as survivor. There are 37 killers on the roster now with at least a few new ones every year. They can afford to nerf one that is widely hated until they get time to rework her.

    Besides, people will continue to play Skull Merchant after these changes. Not as many, surely, but that's a good thing.

    They shouldn't be nerfing anything unless it actually needs to be and she doesn't need to be. Period.

    Acting like your dislike of her makes it fine to just gut her and leave people who like her in the dust is ######### toxic as hell.

  • Everything. ONE beam? Do you know how easy it is to dodge one singular beam?

  • @HamsterEnjoyer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798860#Comment_3798860

    Everything. ONE beam? Do you know how easy it is to dodge one singular beam?

    ignore those empty comments, I hate the UI here.

    Laser tagging on live uses one beam. Really only one beam even hits the survivor on live anyway.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798865#Comment_3798865

    She had a kill rate of 70% in the most recent stats. The devs have said they're shooting for 60%. Only one other killer was above 63%. She absolutely needed nerfs.

    It is not my dislike of her that matters. It is the widespread dislike of her that matters. I specifically said she should be reworked. I'm not trying to get them to delete the character and she will not be unplayable in the meantime for those who enjoy her. She just won't be nearly as strong, which is the right thing to do until she can be reworked.

    A kill rate inflated by idiots who refuse to learn to play against her choosing to suicide on hook or throw the game instead. With that in mind is that really a healthy way to decide what needs nerfed and what doesn't? Absolutely not. If survivors can just throw games to inflate kill rates to get killers nerfed that sets a TERRIBLE precedent don't you think? Or are you alright with it this time cause it is SM?

    She isn't an overpowered character. You and everyone who has already made up your minds just refuse to learn.

  • @totallynotamegmain said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798724#Comment_3798724

    can’t look goofier than finess on a pallet, that look goofy as hell

    I actually like that look 👀 lol

  • @Merciless_Killer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798869#Comment_3798869

    ignore those empty comments, I hate the UI here.

    Laser tagging on live uses one beam. Really only one beam even hits the survivor on live anyway.

    Yeah but you dont laser tag all 3 beams you only use that strat if they already have 2, VERY rarely do you use it if they have just 1 and laser tagging is one of if not the most complained about current SM strat

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798882#Comment_3798882

    People keep saying this, but if legions of survivors would rather kill themselves rather than face a given killer, it seems pretty obvious that her power is badly designed and needs a rework. So, if you will die on the hill that she isn't too strong, you have to accept that her power is so ill conceived that lots of people hate playing against her. That is still plenty of justification for a nerf pending a rework that can make her better for both sides.

    Please calm down and stop putting me in a bucket with other randoms. I haven't been on this forum in years and I know how she works.

    There is literally nothing she does that other killers cant do better or even easier. There is NO reason for her, especially now, to have the level of hate that she does and the hate is going to forever be ingrained no matter how fine she is (As proven by her current state).

  • I still find it crazy that there's people who are casually hand-waving over the fact that the proposed changes will leave Skull Merchant with half her power gone and somehow she'll be okay because of it.

  • @Massquwatt said:

    I still find it crazy that there's people who are casually hand-waving over the fact that the proposed changes will leave Skull Merchant with half her power gone and somehow she'll be okay because of it.

    Same here…tho I think if this was any other killer there would be more outrage but bc its SM ppl don't care.

  • @Massquwatt said:

    I still find it crazy that there's people who are casually hand-waving over the fact that the proposed changes will leave Skull Merchant with half her power gone and somehow she'll be okay because of it.

    The Entity beat her stash of Drones really hard with a hammer and it broke half of the sensors :(

  • If you get tagged my a drone that only emits one single beam at the speed the scan goes you are either catatonic or your computer froze, no human player that can react to whats happening will let such a slow and telegraphed attack hit them. And that is WITH the killer chasing them, if someone gets tagged by ptb metchant outside of chase, thats just....LMAO

  • @squbax said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798860#Comment_3798860

    If you get tagged my a drone that only emits one single beam at the speed the scan goes you are either catatonic or your computer froze, no human player that can react to whats happening will let such a slow and telegraphed attack hit them. And that is WITH the killer chasing them, if someone gets tagged by ptb metchant outside of chase, thats just....LMAO

    People get tagged by one beam on live

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