Nurse is Overpowered, proof me if I'm wrong?

Literally the most overpowered killer in the game. I'm sick of seeing this piece of crap of a killer in the game where you could go blind and down every survivor with ease. There is no thought processing needed to get a easy 4K especially those try hard nurses using jigsaw piece or mary's letter map offering with perks that you pull your hair out of your scalp. "Oh here we go again" as I sigh in disbelief. And there we go, a survivor goes down faster than the speed of sound.

Nurse

Is

Outdated

Get her reworked to the current meta and we'll see the kill rates drop like flies in a closed, warm room.

Comments

  • I think most people know she is Overpowered in some aspects, mostly Addons and her ability to use instadowns so well

  • Can you prove that Nurse is overpowered?

  • See her kill rates drop even more? She already has the lowest kill rate of all killers.

  • Nurse is the only killer where bad map design/balance doesnt matter. If maps gets actually balanced i am all for nerfing Nurse.

  • @PapiFelixPSN said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116651#Comment_3116651

    Even if maps get balanced Nurse won't be OP because those changes won't affect her. There's no point in nerfing Nurse unless you need survivors drastically first. And if you DO nerf Nurse, this issue arises:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/TXML5AVKFNYZ/screenshot-2022-07-25-20-02-09-256.jpg

    Yeah i know it doesnt change nurse but better map design/balance can make other Killers more fun to play. But i agree that Nurse would only need an addon pass and remove Range and the speed it comes with.

  • Urgh another one of those "i claim this but am too lazy to provide evidence so proof me wrong" BS threads. No matter what they are about.

    Right next to the lazy "change my mind so i can sit back and just dismiss your counterargument with delusion" BS threads, same crap in another package.

  • @PapiFelixPSN said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116658#Comment_3116658

    That's fair. Nerf the most viable option once other ones are viable to prevent only the most viable one from being played.

    I just want Nurse to have something in-between bad and literally game-breaking. Because currently, her add-ons are all meh at best besides range, which is so strong it shouldn't exist. Out of all of the killers, Nurse definitely needs an addon pass the most.

    I think there are a lot who need addon pass like Pyramidhead. But i believe there should be a Killer which in the right hands can destroy hard. But i agree besides range and recharge most if not all Addons Nurse has is literally just meme stuff. But i do love me the nit comb to become better with more accurate blinks tho.

  • The burden of proof (Latin: onus probandi, shortened from Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat) is the obligation on a party in a dispute to provide sufficient warrant for its position.

    Like others have mentioned already, YOU claim she's overpowered, so you need to provide the proof, not the nurse defenders.

  • Why do we have to prove you wrong when you aren't even trying to prove your point tho

  • If she was truly OP then people wouldn't win, which they do... quite often as well..

    unless you're on about the very top % nurse isnt OP, but we dont balance for the top because half the killer roster is a failure and only nurse and blight are made viable making your argument is void.

    I versed nurse 80% of my games the other day, is she OP? No, just really strong on a good player most frustrating thing is versing her so often, but that goes for any killer..

  • "Nurse is overpowered cause Nurse players in my game run overpowered things"


    Now bring a basekit Nurse to rottenfields or lerys with 0 slowdowns and watch her struggle. The issue isnt Nurse, its the players playing her.


    Its no different playing Blight with alch ring + speed, Hag with MYC + mint rag. Spirit with mother ring etc. Stop blaming the killer when its the players: and no "but Nurse ignore all mechanics and defense in the game" is not a good argument or is true in general

  • @AarcvanDemen said:

    Literally the most overpowered killer in the game. I'm sick of seeing this piece of crap of a killer in the game where you could go blind and down every survivor with ease. There is no thought processing needed to get a easy 4K especially those try hard nurses using jigsaw piece or mary's letter map offering with perks that you pull your hair out of your scalp. "Oh here we go again" as I sigh in disbelief. And there we go, a survivor goes down faster than the speed of sound.

    Nurse

    Is

    Outdated

    Get her reworked to the current meta and we'll see the kill rates drop like flies in a closed, warm room.

    I'll tell you like I do anyone else complaining about nurse, the door is always open for you to pull up in a KYF and prove it to me , while I will agree nurse is strong she definitely is the hardest killer to master in this game and her pick rate along with her win rate prove that fact, also shes one of the few killers that can beat even the very best in the game if you master her

  • There are way too many nurse mains in dbd, way too many. Y’all like ez mode huh?

    I hope this killer gets her well deserved nerf treatment.

  • @Rise432 said:

    "Nurse is overpowered cause Nurse players in my game run overpowered things"

    Now bring a basekit Nurse to rottenfields or lerys with 0 slowdowns and watch her struggle. The issue isnt Nurse, its the players playing her.

    Its no different playing Blight with alch ring + speed, Hag with MYC + mint rag. Spirit with mother ring etc. Stop blaming the killer when its the players: and no "but Nurse ignore all mechanics and defense in the game" is not a good argument or is true in general

    And according to statistics players aren't even bringing overpowered things THAT much.

  • @Tsulan said:

    See her kill rates drop even more? She already has the lowest kill rate of all killers.

    Tbf with how many more nurses are playing and how much people give up against her now that’s bound to be higher. Not sure by how much though

  • In fairness you're the one making the claim, burden of proof etc etc

  • @Phasmamain said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116643#Comment_3116643

    Tbf with how many more nurses are playing and how much people give up against her now that’s bound to be higher. Not sure by how much though

    Possibly. But suiciding against her, is a whole different story. As it doesn´t reflect her power at all.

  • BHVR really needs to confirm if they're working on a Nurse rework already. Really getting tired of seeing the same threads every day.

  • @The_Krapper said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/339489/nurse-is-overpowered-proof-me-if-im-wrong

    I'll tell you like I do anyone else complaining about nurse, the door is always open for you to pull up in a KYF and prove it to me , while I will agree nurse is strong she definitely is the hardest killer to master in this game and her pick rate along with her win rate prove that fact, also shes one of the few killers that can beat even the very best in the game if you master her

    Blight is harder to master and hillbilly as well.

  • Mfs legit LEGIT USING HER KILLRATE AS AN EXCUSE.

    Of course a new player can't manage to play Nurse and gets ######### on. She's really hard to pick up,yes.but then she's the most overpowered character in the game,lmao. Y'all are insane.

  • @AarcvanDemen said:

    Literally the most overpowered killer in the game. I'm sick of seeing this piece of crap of a killer in the game where you could go blind and down every survivor with ease. There is no thought processing needed to get a easy 4K especially those try hard nurses using jigsaw piece or mary's letter map offering with perks that you pull your hair out of your scalp. "Oh here we go again" as I sigh in disbelief. And there we go, a survivor goes down faster than the speed of sound.

    Nurse

    Is

    Outdated

    Get her reworked to the current meta and we'll see the kill rates drop like flies in a closed, warm room.

    "proof me if I'm wrong?"

    YOU are making an accusation.

    It's up to YOU to bring the proof of what you say.

    I'm waiting for videos of you playing the nurse.

    Videos of several of your games.

    In full.

  • In my opinion, her add-ons and some of the perks like Starstruck / Make Your Choice / NOED / any exposed perks are what push Nurse over the edge. Her blink attack is considering M1 which is working with any exposed perks and Nurse can win the game by this alone. Then range add-ons become too fast to react to any blinks and remove many counterplays. The nurse's blink attack becomes M2 to prevent working with any perks that work for M1 like Sloppy Butcher, Starstruck and etc... Then nerf a few add-ons like double range add-ons. If they can do them, I would be perfectly happy with that.

  • @Little_Kitten said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/339489/nurse-is-overpowered-proof-me-if-im-wrong

    "proof me if I'm wrong?"

    YOU are making an accusation.

    It's up to YOU to bring the proof of what you say.

    I'm waiting for videos of you playing the nurse.

    Videos of several of your games.

    In full.

    you want proof? the past 6 years of dead by daylight. lmao

  • @kizuati said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116798#Comment_3116798

    you want proof? the past 6 years of dead by daylight. lmao

    Okay.

    Your sentence doesn't mean anything, because it encompasses so many elements that in the end it generalizes 150,000%.

  • @Little_Kitten said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116814#Comment_3116814

    Okay.

    Your sentence doesn't mean anything, because it encompasses so many elements that in the end it generalizes 150,000%.

    Look,if you believe that Nurse is not overpowered,your opinion is just objectively wrong and I honestly don't see the point talking

  • @Rise432 said:

    "Nurse is overpowered cause Nurse players in my game run overpowered things"

    Now bring a basekit Nurse to rottenfields or lerys with 0 slowdowns and watch her struggle. The issue isnt Nurse, its the players playing her.

    Its no different playing Blight with alch ring + speed, Hag with MYC + mint rag. Spirit with mother ring etc. Stop blaming the killer when its the players: and no "but Nurse ignore all mechanics and defense in the game" is not a good argument or is true in general

    you can stomp with nurse if you have no perks and no add-ons, even if you are bad with her. nurse is just broken.

  • I only think she needs add ons nerf but I wouldn’t touch her base.

  • @AarcvanDemen said:

    Literally the most overpowered killer in the game. I'm sick of seeing this piece of crap of a killer in the game where you could go blind and down every survivor with ease. There is no thought processing needed to get a easy 4K especially those try hard nurses using jigsaw piece or mary's letter map offering with perks that you pull your hair out of your scalp. "Oh here we go again" as I sigh in disbelief. And there we go, a survivor goes down faster than the speed of sound.

    Nurse

    Is

    Outdated

    Get her reworked to the current meta and we'll see the kill rates drop like flies in a closed, warm room.

    It’s funny, cause nurse actually has the lowest kill rate out of all the killers, and this is because if you don’t know how to play nurse, you will get bullied. Go play nurse, and then come back to this forum. I promise you won’t get a single kill your first game.

  • @kizuati said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116816#Comment_3116816

    Look,if you believe that Nurse is not overpowered,your opinion is just objectively wrong and I honestly don't see the point talking

    "objectively wrong" - someone that also doesn't base their opinions on facts and only on their (low MMR) experience

  • What does proof to the contrary look like? Just about everyone who thinks Nurse is OP has a No True Scotsman built up in their head when it comes to Nurse. If the survivor succeeds in chase, the Nurse must be bad. Because a *good* Nurse will blink perfectly every time regardless of survivor input or pathing. And if anyone weighs in to the contrary, well, they aren't facing the quality high MMR Nurses those players are facing.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    What does proof to the contrary look like? Just about everyone who thinks Nurse is OP has a No True Scotsman built up in their head when it comes to Nurse. If the survivor succeeds in chase, the Nurse must be bad. Because a *good* Nurse will blink perfectly every time regardless of survivor input or pathing. And if anyone weighs in to the contrary, well, they aren't facing the quality high MMR Nurses those players are facing.

    So tiresome.

    The people defending nurse like to lie and say a blink attack requires equal 50/50 skill on both sides. In fact, there are many situations where it is not a 50/50, and the nurse will hit you no matter what you do. This is not even debatable. It's just true.

    So yeah, there are many situations where if the Nurse didn't hit you it was because the nurse was bad. Objectively.

  • @burt0r said:

    Urgh another one of those "i claim this but am too lazy to provide evidence so proof me wrong" BS threads. No matter what they are about.

    Right next to the lazy "change my mind so i can sit back and just dismiss your counterargument with delusion" BS threads, same crap in another package.

    Oh no, this person isn’t lazy: they just aren’t good at the game and literally can’t prove it or play against her.

  • @Omans said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3117044#Comment_3117044

    So tiresome.

    The people defending nurse like to lie and say a blink attack requires equal 50/50 skill on both sides. In fact, there are many situations where it is not a 50/50, and the nurse will hit you no matter what you do. This is not even debatable. It's just true.

    So yeah, there are many situations where if the Nurse didn't hit you it was because the nurse was bad. Objectively.

    And this is a unique case with Nurse? Nemesis can't do that at a window or pallet? Pyramid Head? Blight out in the open? Huntress? Twins? Hag when you step on a trap? Trickster out in the open? I guess we're making changes to over half the killer roster if the criteria is "gets an automatic hit at times if the killer is good".

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3117055#Comment_3117055

    And this is a unique case with Nurse? Nemesis can't do that at a window or pallet? Pyramid Head? Blight out in the open? Huntress? Twins? Hag when you step on a trap? Trickster out in the open? I guess we're making changes to over half the killer roster if the criteria is "gets an automatic hit at times if the killer is good".

    Nurse can do it consistently throughout the whole match. Other killers are limited.

    Imagine seriously comparing what trickster can do, and what nurse can do.

    You're flailing.

  • @PapiFelixPSN said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116961#Comment_3116961

    Incorrect. At high MMR, Nurse averages out to a 2k. So in other words, she's balanced.

    source: believe me

  • That's not true for everyone , guess you could say the same about nurse though it doesn't show it in the data, I personally believe that those three are in a category that at least one of them will give you a really hard time mastering

  • @Omans said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3117093#Comment_3117093

    Nurse can do it consistently throughout the whole match. Other killers are limited.

    Imagine seriously comparing what trickster can do, and what nurse can do.

    You're flailing.

    Well, I didn't directly compare the two. You said there are situations where Nurse is guaranteed to hit a survivor. And I said that's true of other killers as well.

  • Shes overpowered in the current way people play the game of do everything in the killers face and take chases all the time

  • @kizuati said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116816#Comment_3116816

    Look,if you believe that Nurse is not overpowered,your opinion is just objectively wrong and I honestly don't see the point talking

    And we're back to the beginning: prove to me that she is OP.

    Because it's people like you who initiate it by coming in and saying, "Help, the nurse is OP."

    Okay, so prove it to us.

    We're waiting.

  • @The_Krapper said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3116784#Comment_3116784

    That's not true for everyone , guess you could say the same about nurse though it doesn't show it in the data, I personally believe that those three are in a category that at least one of them will give you a really hard time mastering

    Nurse is hardest to start on as with other you can play just m1 with 115% with map mobility but blight and hillbilly power overall is harder to master. I think I could get good on nurse but never on hillbilly I watched some hillbilly mains and it's crazy what they do with the chainsaw I could never replicate that.

  • Just get rid of range and make her unable to use NOED, Starstruck, Haunted Ground, etc. I promise it'll make a huge difference. A lot of nurse players use these as a crutch. It's insane how fast a bad nurse can snowball with perks/addons. Once those are gone all you have to worry about are the god nurses who are not as common as people pretend they are. It will make nurse much more skill dependent when they can't insta down everything on the map. They should try that before they commit to any major reworks.