Pig matches aren't the funnest currently.

Sorry to ride the trend but like other people now that it is becoming popular i'm seeing it more and more. 2 games in a row against pig was afk kills. Me and one other survivor couldn't get the trap off because we were "unlucky" so i just took the L on it. Like people ride tombstone for being bad but at least michael needs to do something for it. Its minimal but it's something. This one i can get a 4k by doing literally absolutely nothing. Maybe rework the red addon into something more interesting or put contigencies on it? Idrk how you'd fix this problem.

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  • Just wait people who will defend this trash gameplay. BHVR should ban people who is doing that. This is abusing of game design.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    Sorry to ride the trend but like other people now that it is becoming popular i'm seeing it more and more. 2 games in a row against pig was afk kills. Me and one other survivor couldn't get the trap off because we were "unlucky" so i just took the L on it. Like people ride tombstone for being bad but at least michael needs to do something for it. Its minimal but it's something. This one i can get a 4k by doing literally absolutely nothing. Maybe rework the red addon into something more interesting or put contigencies on it? Idrk how you'd fix this problem.

    She was incredibly boring before now it’s worse

  • @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    Just wait people who will defend this trash gameplay. BHVR should ban people who is doing that. This is abusing of game design.

    I don’t know how anyone can defend that play style

  • Sorry to hear that, have you considered just being lucky? Sounds like a skill issue to me

  • I'm thinking of doing this with pig, it sounds like a fun way to kill 20 minutes.

  • They are looking which side is exploiting. If this is coming from their side, they are defending. Because of They vs Us! Other side is enemy and need to destroy. Some people really have this mentality.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    Sorry to ride the trend but like other people now that it is becoming popular i'm seeing it more and more. 2 games in a row against pig was afk kills. Me and one other survivor couldn't get the trap off because we were "unlucky" so i just took the L on it. Like people ride tombstone for being bad but at least michael needs to do something for it. Its minimal but it's something. This one i can get a 4k by doing literally absolutely nothing. Maybe rework the red addon into something more interesting or put contigencies on it? Idrk how you'd fix this problem.

    What? How does pig get afk kills? If it's to do with the RBT at the start of the trial, don't do gens, do boxes

    Idk, maybe I'm just not understanding what is happening

  • @TotemSeeker91 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/308889/pig-matches-arent-the-funnest-currently

    What? How does pig get afk kills? If it's to do with the RBT at the start of the trial, don't do gens, do boxes

    Idk, maybe I'm just not understanding what is happening

    "Don't do gens, do boxes"

    Now my dearest friend, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept of this fun little "strategy" but you can't do a box through an AFK Pig's body.

  • @TotemSeeker91 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/308889/pig-matches-arent-the-funnest-currently

    What? How does pig get afk kills? If it's to do with the RBT at the start of the trial, don't do gens, do boxes

    Idk, maybe I'm just not understanding what is happening

    Pig players pick the video tape ultra rare addon, since it used to be a uncommon many people have billions of them

    They pick a box, crouch and just block it the whole game and hope that survivors are unlucky and die to it. Which they often do, so survivors have a choice

    do the gens and progress the game

    don't do the gens and waste their time - the pig isn't playing the game and survivors can't really punish them by doing the gens and leaving because at least 1 person is 100% guaranteed to die in most circumstances

  • Nah this ######### is hilarious.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    Sorry to ride the trend but like other people now that it is becoming popular i'm seeing it more and more. 2 games in a row against pig was afk kills. Me and one other survivor couldn't get the trap off because we were "unlucky" so i just took the L on it. Like people ride tombstone for being bad but at least michael needs to do something for it. Its minimal but it's something. This one i can get a 4k by doing literally absolutely nothing. Maybe rework the red addon into something more interesting or put contigencies on it? Idrk how you'd fix this problem.

    Ah, now to abuse this just like boil over.

  • I wish I had pig game at least once a week. All I get are sweaty tunneling nurses who bm on hook because I loop them for 40 seconds smh

  • Don't worry, the nerf doctor will come and you'll never see little piggu again.

  • You should be happy. Pig's killrate will finally lower. She would destroy you if she tried. Be glad she just let everyone else escape.

  • I just think that this is just more reasons to rework pig's Reverse Bear Traps(RBT)/boxes to be less RNG dependent but more consistent.

    I'd like to see the boxes give out 1/3rd key parts so you'd have to open 3 boxes to get the trap off.

    It would make pig's RBT's have a consistent slowdown but would also prevent blocking a single box from ever killing a survivor without having to do the work.

  • @Warcrafter4 said:

    I just think that this is just more reasons to rework pig's Reverse Bear Traps(RBT)/boxes to be less RNG dependent but more consistent.

    I'd like to see the boxes give out 1/3rd key parts so you'd have to open 3 boxes to get the trap off.

    It would make pig's RBT's have a consistent slowdown but would also prevent blocking a single box from ever killing a survivor without having to do the work.

    No, no, no. We can't buff a killer as oppressive as Pig. All we need to do is nerf this.

  • The addon was just rework from giving the pig only 2 traps and reducing the box to 2 on the map. AFK Pig is a evolved version of 50/50 Pig

  • they're always mean and take advantage of me

  • It is sickening to see people play Pig in this way...

    And it's available to be used

  • This is how to play against this strategy with the highest rate of success for your team.

    1. The pig cannot leave her box without giving up the strategy. So you need to maximize the amount of time that she's in front of the box
    2. That means that when you start with a trap on your head you should not complete any generators until the pig has secured a down
    3. Check for ruin, because you will need to 99 gens and this cannot be done if ruin is active
    4. Once ruin is out of play, 99 all 5 gens and break all totems (if you're playing solo, it is enough just to 99 gens)
    5. Once you're certain that you have all the gens ready, pop, pop, pop, pop, and pop the gens.
    6. At this point expect NOED to be in play unless you've cleansed all totems
    7. If more than 1 survivor has a head trap on, all but one survivor must sacrifice themselves by running out of the exit
    8. The last survivor can now get hatch.

    If you do not do this , as soon as all of the survivors with head traps have been killed the pig will play normally and may get additional kills. A 1k can easily become a 4k once the pig is able to leave the box and play normally.

  • Hmmm, I like this because I find it fun, don't you like dying? play civ V or something!

  • @ShinobuSK said:

    I wish I had pig game at least once a week. All I get are sweaty tunneling nurses who bm on hook because I loop them for 40 seconds smh

    This is probably a funniest thing ever I saw in this forum, I've seen plenty of people saying "he BMs cuz I looped long" but "he BMs even if I didn't even chased long" is fresh air.

  • Wild.

    We actually want Pig nerfs now.

  • I have 100 of each addon. How many 4k's do you think I can get before nerf? Let's find out!

  • @NeaISOP said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791825#Comment_2791825

    Good luck doing that in solo q.

    And please dont call this a "strategy" This is called Exploiting a design error and unspormantlike conduct.

    This is what in-game report says about it:

    UNSPORTMANTLIKE: Report this player for purporsefully losing the game, not participating in or disconnecting from the game early to avoid defeat. Examples: AFKING, rage quitting, IDLING, and refusing to participate in normal gameplay.

    EXPLOITING: ABUSING BUGS OR ERRORS IN DESIGN TO GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE

    • Advertising exploits
    • Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage

    People get caught up on the smallest details. And this is entirely doable in solo queue. Like I said if the killer intends to stay in front of a box preventing survivors from using that box then she is figuratively chained there or she has to give up this strategy entirely. That means that you have all the time in the world to get this done. If solo queue could agree not to cleanse verses plague then they can agree to 99 gens verses iri pig. If the strategy stops working then players will stop abusing the mechanic.

  • @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    Just wait people who will defend this trash gameplay. BHVR should ban people who is doing that. This is abusing of game design.

    Oh, I’ve already seen people defend it on these forums. It’s sad.

  • @NeaISOP said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791825#Comment_2791825

    Good luck doing that in solo q.

    And please dont call this a "strategy" This is called Exploiting a design error and unspormantlike conduct.

    This is what in-game report says about it:

    UNSPORTMANTLIKE: Report this player for purporsefully losing the game, not participating in or disconnecting from the game early to avoid defeat. Examples: AFKING, rage quitting, IDLING, and refusing to participate in normal gameplay.

    EXPLOITING: ABUSING BUGS OR ERRORS IN DESIGN TO GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE

    • Advertising exploits
    • Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage

    We don't need to balance things around solo q anymore, game is meant to be played with SWF from now on thanks to the changes they gonna implement to make it so soloqs have same tools as SWF.

  • Pig does actually have to do something. Pretend to be AFK and risk getting false-reported.

    1. It's a ultra rare add-on.
    2. t's not a good strategy. RNG favours survivors. Most survivors get the hat removed after 1 box.
    3. Probably the only reason you're seeing more Pig matches is due to the Saw tome. She's such a joke that people expect you to play for boops and don't take her seriously
  • @Azshhh said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791855#Comment_2791855

    I'd estimate about a third of the amount of reports you'll likely get

    That's like people who report for tunnel/camp, I'm sure he won't get any effect from it...

    And if he do, that's hella funny!

  • BHVR has make it very clear that kills = skill, why would you ban skilled play?

  • @shalo said:

    BHVR has make it very clear that kills = skill, why would you ban skilled play?

    Because, apparently, skilled killer is toxic?

    I mean everyone don't like getting killed in a game about killing.

  • Yeah,its bad for the game,it takes no skill to just afk in front of a jigsaw box and wait for rng,BHVR pretty much enables griefing with that addon.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    I made a thread about this earlier today saying it's unhealthy and should be changed only to be met with a bunch of angry comments from killers saying:

    • Survivors complain about everything.
    • It's not an exploit.
    • I should stop "crying".
    • It's a fair strategy.

    The funniest part is I main killer but for some reason pointing out that ONE killer add-on has the potential to be abused makes me an evil survivor main who is out to demonize killers. The DbD forums are completely insufferable at times and honestly, it's like people around here WANT to drive the game into the ground.

    And you labelled everyone disagreeing with you as "killer", it's pretty much same vein isn't it?

    If this forum is "completely insufferable at times", you better not stay here for 2203 posts because this place will not change with whatever reasons.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791884#Comment_2791884

    Tunneling and camping are not reportable offenses.

    AFKing and idling are.

    Then problem is on AFKing and Idling, not the addon or camping the box.

    You know pig can just stay near a box and walk around it, slash everyone who tries to solve their trap? it does same thing.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    I made a thread about this earlier today saying it's unhealthy and should be changed only to be met with a bunch of angry comments from killers saying:

    • Survivors complain about everything.
    • It's not an exploit.
    • I should stop "crying".
    • It's a fair strategy.

    The funniest part is I main killer but for some reason pointing out that ONE killer add-on has the potential to be abused makes me an evil survivor main who is out to demonize killers. The DbD forums are completely insufferable at times and honestly, it's like people around here WANT to drive the game into the ground.

    You complain about it but probably have never even played Pig to understand how matches with her usually go. Try maining her for a while.

  • @NeaISOP said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791859#Comment_2791859

    Oh yes, entirely doable, that's why we get a lot of complaints daily on the forum on how solo q is TERRIBLE and lacks of info.

    You're just ignoring the reality, If solo q struggles to know when to go to the unhook, you expect them to have this level of coordination? that's delirant.

    And who told u solo q agrees with plague cleansing mechanic? i always try not to cleanse but they just keep cleansing the second they're infected. That's why I hate plague as solo.

    And no, players shouldn't adapt their gamestyle just because some players are BREAKING the rules and abusing a game design error, this is a mistake from devs and they should either ban these players or make it so the key works like pyramid head cage.

    Stop defending this game abuse.

    If solo q struggles on when to go unhooks, that's called "skill issue".

  • @NeaISOP said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791862#Comment_2791862

    Sadly those changes are not here yet, so we need a temporal fix ASAP. And even then we still get team mates that are just potatoes and theres no fix for that.

    SWF will still be the best option

    It will be, but game will be balanced for those "best option" because survivors CAN choose to do so.

  • And with the current boil over changes, Survs are more so toxic rather than Pig rng. So this Survivor Holier than though attitude is amusing. But you being calm and balanced have surely registered your distaste in those threads about Boil over right?

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791905#Comment_2791905

    I've never played Pig?

    I have all of her achievements. Next caller.

    Then I'd expect your OP to be more balanced.

  • @Warcrafter4 said:

    I just think that this is just more reasons to rework pig's Reverse Bear Traps(RBT)/boxes to be less RNG dependent but more consistent.

    I'd like to see the boxes give out 1/3rd key parts so you'd have to open 3 boxes to get the trap off.

    It would make pig's RBT's have a consistent slowdown but would also prevent blocking a single box from ever killing a survivor without having to do the work.

    IMO taking away the fourth box hurts Pig badly. If you know you only have to search 3 boxes, you can easily get away with doing gens until the timer starts ticking (or, if you're really paranoid, doing one box and then doing gens until the timer starts).

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791904#Comment_2791904

    No it doesn't do the "same thing". Without the add-on the Pig actually has to chase and down someone before trapping them. By that point if she camps the box it's fair game. She won the chase and earned the kill.

    The Video Tape allows her to get kills by literally AFKing at the start of the match infront of a box with ZERO effort.

    Apples to oranges comparison...

    I'm specifically talking about situation where pig uses video tape and camping around box.

    It's same thing as afking in front of box, but for some reason you seems to be fine with it.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791900#Comment_2791900

    ....Becuase the comments were coming from killers......

    This honestly isn't even worth my time.

    Then why keeps responding?

    If it's not worth your time, don't waste your time, I think.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791923#Comment_2791923

    Because in that situation she's actually present and playing the game?

    Did you even read my post? I specifically mention I was talking about how AFK Pigs should not be getting kills for going AFK. If she's actually playing the game then idrc.

    In that case, AFK as is is already a reportable offense and you don't need any changes for things?

  • @Ripley said:

    Pig does actually have to do something. Pretend to be AFK and risk getting false-reported.

    1. It's a ultra rare add-on.
    2. t's not a good strategy. RNG favours survivors. Most survivors get the hat removed after 1 box.
    3. Probably the only reason you're seeing more Pig matches is due to the Saw tome. She's such a joke that people expect you to play for boops and don't take her seriously
    1. It was a yellow Add-On before, so some people have tons of them.
    2. Sure, but nobody complains that it is too strong. Like, using Boil Over and running to high places was also no good strategy, you wont win with it, but it still needed changes.
    3. No challenge can be done wiht that "strategy".
  • Easy fix to this problem. Make it so that the key is never in the first and last box. Therefore, if there are 4 boxes, the key would appear in the second/third box that is searched.

  • How do you know they are AFK and are not just waiting for NOED to activate and then play endgame, with a proper endgame build?

    There's many, many ways to idle during a match and still secure a 4k. Just look at DbD Things videos on YouTube. They have a number of really excellent ones with an "AFK" Killer who steamrolls at the end. Absolutely love the Myers one btw. It's fantastic.

    This is why standing in front of the box is neither an exploit nor against the rules. It's just amazing how many people are crying about this because a popular streamer did. It has been in the game for over 3 months now without a single peep. One person vocalizes about it and the mob forms. Then it becomes Us vs Them with all the usual trash talk from one side.

    Unhealthy, trash tier, and toxic, but not against the rules. It does need fixed in some fashion, but if it was that much of an issue, it would have been nuked already.

  • @Aven_Fallen said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791883#Comment_2791883

    1. It was a yellow Add-On before, so some people have tons of them.
    2. Sure, but nobody complains that it is too strong. Like, using Boil Over and running to high places was also no good strategy, you wont win with it, but it still needed changes.
    3. No challenge can be done wiht that "strategy".

    Boil Over needed the change because so-called bully squads were using it to grief. I had matches where survivors ran to the top floor and made gen/pallet/locker/flashlight noise to draw my attention; they wanted to be downed so they could use it.

    The maths is different in this situation, we don't have 4 pigs vs. one survivor. If RNG is in your favour 1-2 head pops at the most and less points than double hooks and chases.

    About 3. I don't expect the add-on to be useful in next stages of this tome, but I meant it more generally. Players with lots of them probably stopped playing for a good reason but let's dust off Piggu because she has some new Rift cosmetics.

  • @ThiccBudhha said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791704#Comment_2791704

    No, no, no. We can't buff a killer as oppressive as Pig. All we need to do is nerf this.

    I used to joke about nerfing Clown since I like Clown but he's so weak. See where that got me...

  • @NeaISOP said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791961#Comment_2791961

    Dude u got roasted in another post AND u still defending this crap? This forum nevers stops to surprise me

    Hardly roasted. Your opinion about what is against the rules, and mine are obviously in contention. We'll see where the devs ruling comes though. If it was really that bad, or an exploit, it would have been pulled already. It hasn't, so most likely, it's not going to for a while and probably isn't an exploit.

  • @GoodBoyKaru said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2791684#Comment_2791684

    "Don't do gens, do boxes"

    Now my dearest friend, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept of this fun little "strategy" but you can't do a box through an AFK Pig's body.

    Well that's what i was wondering, i didn't know if she was afk from the start or she afk in front of a box, also that's pretty crummy luck if your box is the one pig is standing in front of, lol

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