BHVR WE ARE NOT
YOUR BETA TESTERS !
We are players that have bought the game and we deserve quality. PTB is the platform where you can test your new features but the normal game should never be considered as a test playground.
We have paid the game, the full game to play it and enjoy it. So we deserve a few things :
- that you listen to the community when we tell you something, but seeing the state of the game you don't listen much...
- that everything works fine when you release a patch or a new feature
- that you don't change our game experience with your tests
Hire Beta tester as developers were doing 20 years ago or use your PTB.
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i suppose the eula is gonna say something about them having the right of doing that bla bla bla, it doesnt mean that is the correct thing to do, it is still just the product of lazy devs, plain and simple
cause i was expecting a actuall fixed game, honestly, mmr being tested is the last of this game problems, dont tell me you forgot the twins chapter ? lmao, ppl that defend bhvr are into some heavy copium, holy #########
btw, "read the EULA" is that really the beach you wanna die ? LMFAOO as i said, the copium is real...
Comprehension though is an entirely different skill.
Sadly it seems (from my experience) most of the human race lack this.
But we all know good and well that PTBs aren't used for feedback, they're just a joke between the devs to watch us complain about stuff they already know they won't change no matter what we say
Matchmaking is one of the actual biggest problems in this game currently, what are you even talking about? And such a feature needs to get tested in live environment
and yeah, Twins chapter was a disaster, but they patched many of the bugs already, same with the midchapter release.
I don't know if it's my 1am brain after not sleeping properly for a month or your English just isn't great but I'm not entirely sure on what you mean so I'll try and interpret it in one of two ways:
Now either you're asking me if this is the hill I want to die on in which case, yes.
Or you're asking me if this is the beach I want to dye in which case, have you been to the Isle of Wight?! The coloured sand there is so cool so yes, I'd love to dye the entire beach.
Yeah and if you play the game you agree to it. If you don't like it then don't play the game, it's really not that deep.
In fact, it's about as deep as a paddling pool.
In a drought.
With a hose water ban.
That hasn't been inflated.
And is buried in a hill.
That someone is dying on.
The thing is, they aren't "bettering" the game with the feedback we provide.
Double post because faulty internet at this time of night.
It's a day dude get a grip they are doing it to try and make matchmaking better. If you can't face not playing the game for the day while they try and do something to make the experience better for al their players you have a problem.
We all paid for the game and we all understand that they are doing this to try and make it better. Try not just thinking about yourself for once and see the bigger picture.
I know, seems crazy to read something before agreeing to it, but you never know, he could be onto something. I mean your method (of blindly agreeing to stuff without asking what you are agreeing to, then whining about it later) probably has some merit as well, not one I can see, but there has to be something beyond just stubbornness, right?
Can't be a sheep if you never read the information to begin with
BHVR apologists are all over the community. People still consider it to be a "wittle innowcent indie compwany uwu" when it's obvious BHVR is taking a more corporate approach to DBD now. Can't wait until an actual competitor comes along so they have to actually try.
It’s funny because I never see that argument of „BHVR is a small indie company“ used at all..
dude, is not about if they fixed or not, is about the act, they legit threw us a bugged mess, knowingly, not talking about bugs and etc being the biggest problem, bhvr decision making is the biggest problem of this game, and yes, things like this need to get TESTED, not released in the live version of you program, that's not how this suppose to work, lmfao
oh yes, because all of us read everysingle line of every single eula of everysingle product we buy... i ask you all again, is this really the beach u ppl gonna choose to die on ? LMFAO, u do u i guess
You are completely ignoring the point of the entire post, but don't worry big daddy BHVR will love you shilling for them while they continue to throw the middle finger at you and release utter trash quality updates patch to patch
You talking about the new matchmaking? It's literally for one day. Take a day off if you don't want to bother.
You're too busy thinking about what affects you for a single day instead of what's going to help the entire player base is they're able to fix matchmaking.
Great but last I checked paracetamol is all i take
seems like you have no idea about software developement, bugs and release schedules at all...
BHVR decision making is a problem currently, yes. But that is a completely distinct topic to SBM and this current test, which is still necessary and shouldn’t be neglected..
Why pay for people to test the game when the community so willingly does it for them?
I'm so sorry you are being forced to play this game that you obviously do not enjoy playing. I mean you must be forced because you have not once said or even remotely implied that you enjoy playing it - which seems silly to willingly engage in an activity that you dislike so much.
You know what I wish they would do to improve DBD player experiences - create an ignore feature on these forums so I never have to see whiny posts by people who are forced to play this game...like you. Eyeroll.
So what, do you want to take over bhvr so they can do whatever you want? They test something that is impossible to test in the ptb, so the logical solution is to test it on the live servers. Because it might be annoying they decided the test will last 24 hours. If you don't like playing with the new sbm, then don't play for a day
Unfortunately, you haven't had enough hours into dbd to understand. Let me explain something, while I do agree there game is in a bad state, if the developers listen to us, it'll be in a worse state. An asymmetric horror game is a 1v4 game, that mean there are four times more survivors that killer. It's not exactly four times more, maybe just two times. What I'm trying to say is there are more survivors than killers which would destroy the game.
The point where the OP doesn't understand what a beta tester is, or the part where a lot of you want to pretend that every other online game has perfect matchmaking that they've never experimented with while the game was live? Condescension does not a point make, if you don't like the game, either due to updates or any other reason, then just stop playing. Y'all act like you are being forced to participate, it's sad really.
I read it. It really isn't difficult. Most EULA will be broken into multiple sections (what you agree to, what the company agrees to, and an arbitration or other dispute agreement) just like a lease for rental property (which you should also always read) or cellphone agreement. Games are obviously way less important than either of those two examples, but it is still a good idea to read first. Refusing to read the agreement because you think nobody else does is absolutely stupid.
Why would you agree to something without knowing what you agreed to? Hell the main reason I don't use apple is that they can sue you or make your software stop working if you try to install the same sw on two different pieces of hardware. That's in the EULA for every piece of apple software. The iTunes EULA specifically states that they can remove music from the service at any time, and are not required to keep it available for those who actually purchased it or compensate them in any way. So you can buy an album, see it disappear from your library, and have no recourse because you already agreed that could happen.
Get it?
You are definitely a fan boy, where are you objective in all you say ?
Yes, the matchmaking in other online games is clearly way better than the one you get in DbD even though they often use the ELO system for team based matchmaking which cannot work as ELO is designed for 1v1.
A BETA tester is someone in charge to test a product before its release. So when you are on the PTB testing the next DLC, you are a beta tester.
And when you are testing new unfinished features on the live servers, you are also a beta tester.
So if you like being someone paying for games and ending up by playing an unfinished game for years because BHVR is constantly bringing new things ant at the same time breaking other things, be it but you can't come here and tell everyone who disagree to continue to be sheeps and accept it or to stop to play the game.
Not really... what i see on this forum is that killers voice is much much more present and in 4 years on DbD, developers have listened the killers way more than the survivors to a point where the real kill rate is around 85% atm (check the statistic thread from the guy who has played 500 trials).
Yes you are right, just let ourselves being ######### in the ass without saying anything =).
Go get your vaccine, preferably Astra Zeneca, you know the one that was super safe and that is now forbidden cause too dangerous but hey, don't say anything :).
facepalm
Yes let's test the new matchmaking on a sample size that's probably not even a tenth of a percent of the total.
Even during the trickster ptb i kept seeing the same people over and over again. Some people are so desperate to be annoyed by something they really just turn their brain off.
They probably could have announced that characters would have googly eyes for the next 24 hours and you would have been pissed about it
Now I want April Fools to have every character with googly eyes. Thanks.
I can’t decide who looks the most funny and I wanna see them in action!
So you enjoy forcing yourself to play games you don't like, or have you just never played an online game before? Yes. I can come on here and tell people that if they don't like a game they should quit playing it. Here I'll do it again.
If you don't like the game, stop playing
As far as calling people sheep? I'll leave that to the edge lords like you who seem to really need the satisfaction. As far as bringing in vaccines? Well you can certainly tell someone doesn't have a point when they start wildly mentioning random other ######### like that, eh?
Tell you what. Give me an example of one mp game that has not addressed balance or matchmaking on live servers. Just one. I'll wait.
OH MY GOD YOU'RE ANTI-VAXX THIS ENTITE THREAD MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW WHAT-
Okay so not to derail the thread but out of people who have had the vaccine the blood clots have actually been less than on average and France admitted the banning of the AZ vaccine was a political move more than a safety one.
Username has "nightmare" in it
User likes to call people who disagree with them "sheep"
User has reactionary histeria to announced temporary changes
User completely misunderstood simple news article and then came here to claim something was banned for health reasons when one country made a political decision
User is likely either angsty teen or old man yelling at clouds. It's weird how hard those groups are to separate now.
As someone who used to be an angsty teen and has friends who are still angsty teens we are nowhere near as bad as the Oldies yelling at clouds
Fair enough. I haven't been an agnsty teen for about 25 years, so I'll take your word for it :)
1 country ? LOL
You are smooth man, as most of the guys on this forum, totally brainwashed and impossible to think out of the box. The society, company or whatever tells you to think their way and that's what you are doing without thinking by yourself.
You are a sheep. That's all.
Dude, do you understand the problem behind a large scale test? How many beta testers should they hire in order to test the MMR? 100k? 500k? Because having 20 people testing the mmr won´t be enough.
Still waiting for you to name a single game that hasn't rebalanced or adjusted matchmaking on live servers...
Or I suppose you could keep the cringe pseudo anti-establishment bs like you aren't on here whining about a video game. It won't make you right, but it will be funny to show my colleagues later when they ask why I don't want to ever have children.
PTB maybe ? 4 years they are talking about this new matchmaking, it will never happen, do you understand this ? You want to know why ? Because they don't know how to evaluate a good survivor or killer.
A killer tunnelnig and camping getting 4k against soloQ survivors will be considered a great player.
A soloQ survivor tunneled during the 5 gens to death that couldn't do anything but running, getting 10k will be considered a bad survivor.
No one plays normal on the PTB. People disconnect, when they don´t get matched against the new killer or when they are not on the new map (when there is one). You would get a ton of useless data, which would result in a faulty MMR on release.
Would you honestly prefer, that they just launched the MMR without testing it?
So you think the best way to test a crossplay matchmaking system is to do so on an environment that is PC only? That is actually funnier than anything else you've said so far, except when you call someone a sheep, that always makes me giggle, as it's good to see some slang is still in highschools across the world decades after it started.
When weak ppl are trying to mirror their life problems on others... sad really.
When the killer camps and tunnels and gets a 4K they either played strategically well or the survivors they were matched against played bad. The hidden rank will not be evaluated just by one single match and chances are they get matched against enough SWFs so I don’t know why you would even bring soloQ into this..
and a soloQ survivor that gets tunneled but keeps the killer busy for 5 gens won’t just get a bad score just because they die in the end. Why would you even assume that? that’s pretty much the old rank you are describing here..
Think a little bit outside the box. You are pretty much assuming the hidden score will solely be based on kills/deaths or even BP or old rank and nothing more..
Yet here you are, still continuing to do so.
A sheep? No.
Cow? More like it.
Coming from me this is unbelievably ironic but please, grow up
Are you genuinely okay?