The issue of Representation
DBD is loved by gamers from around the world. It has a huge fan database. For any gamer, from any corner of the world, s/he always feels more "included" when s/he sees a killer/survivor who have origins in his/her country, or is from his/her race.
Unfortunately, I am someone from a country/race where I see that till now, none of the killers/survivors have origins from my country/my race.
I wish to highlight the issue of representation in this forum. The other commenters who find my discussion useless/unnecessary probably already have their race/geographic location represented/partly represented in this game. So they won't feel the way I/someone in my position would feel.
North Africa, India, Other East Asian countries, Australia etc., as I have observed till now, have not yet been represented through either a killer/survivor/map.
I know original characters/maps take a lot of time.
I just wish to request the company to keep this in mind.
What say folks? If given a choice what would your design/characters be if you get to choose a character/map that has not been represented so far?
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I'd say it's a very limited option pool for a thread about not enough representation.
Not their culture, cultural appropriation, stereotyping. Imo it would be way too risky or expensive for them to do it in this cultural climate. You're going to offend some1. I really don't care where the killer or survivor is from or what they identify as, as long as gameplay is good or they're not too in your face about things.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Feng Min is Chinese, and Doctor is based off of a Chinese Doctor who used electroconvusive therapy to "fix" children with a video game addiction.
Wraith has African origins doesn’t he? We also have Yui and Min.
more diverse characters are coming, I am pretty sure of it looking at Zarina and the latest non licensed chars
Who said we need them, other than you? I really see no need to force extra races into the mix.
A lot of people will want their country or their race represented in a video game. It's not a bad thing. If anything, it makes the game more diverse
Wraith and Hag are African. Huntress is Russian. Oni and Spirit are Japanese. We have survivors of nearly every racial background. I'd say the game is already pretty diverse. I have no objection to adding more characters from different backgrounds. But not simply for the sake of diversity.
No, my point is why do we need the diversity? I Get people are from multiple countries, but that has absolutely no bearing on why we need the diversity.
Diversity for the sake of diversity is absolutely moronic.
This ^^
How about an Aztec, Native American, A Spartan, Viking, WW1/2,
This game can represent not only a group of people but history as well I.E The Plauge, Deathslinger
Also Legends and Folklore
i say the devs should make whatever characters they feel like for their game. ethnicity, gender, orientation, species, whatever else that i can't think of at the moment... whatever they think would fit the character they have in mind.
ngl tho I'd actually be super interested in an Aztec killer.
Me too.... Which is why I mentioned them
The kit could be basically Wraith and instead of invis he shoots a bow or something
Aztecs use... they have macuahuitl, atlatl, tlacochtli
Plus they are into human sacrifice
I'd imagine a Jaguar warrior but who knows
Otherwise known as: Pandering.
Like I've said before, let BHVR add characters from wherever they want to add characters from. If they want an African Survivor, they'll make one. If they want an Australian Killer, they'll make one. If they want a mixed race character, they'll make one. There is no reason to force them to make these decisions if they don't want to do it.
I'd be more interested in the eagle, personally. Maybe alternate skins or something idk
its a hide and seek party game, no need to pander to everyone in the world
why can’t people just play the game and have fun
The game is pretty diverse, I'll just make a list right now
Claudette - African Canadian
Jake - Mixed/Korean American
Nea - Caucasian Swedish
Ace Visconti - Older Italian / Argentinian
Bill Overbeck - Much older Vietnam vet, Caucasian and American
Feng Min - Chinese
David King - Caucasian British
David Tapp - African American
Adam Francis - Jamaican
Jeff Johannson - Caucasian Canadian
Jane Romero - Latin American
Yui Kimura - Japanese
Zarina Kassir - Lebanese American
The Wraith - African
The Hillbilly - Deformed American
The nurse - Anglo American
The Hag - African
The Doctor - African American
The Huntress - Russian
The Spirit - Japanese
The Legion (Joey) - African American
The Plague - Babylonian
The demogorgan - demogorgan
Oni - Japanese
Am I open to more diversity? Of course, I'm just saying that the people who think this game has no representation is wrong
Claudette is Canadian, not American.
Oops my mistake, thank you for pointing that out
@mrpieseller Deformed American and Demogorgon made me laugh lol.
Ya missed one deathslinger irish/American (explains why he's very angry and has a saloon map) sorry coudnt resist
Why can’t you let people ask for something that wouldn’t hurt anyone at all?
you can still play hide and seek with harmless representation as the current state shows very well.
I don't want to brag but for once the game misses european representation,
So I feature for you the next chapter :
ZE MIIIIIME !
Killer : The mime
Survivor : Claire Chazal
Map : LA BAGUETTE boulangerie.
Why do you have to get defensive over something that actually really doesn't matter? It only matters when people make it matter, and that's what you're doing.
If you want more representation that's fine. All I ask is don't get upset when your favorite survivor gets hook or your killer gets pallet slammed. This is a horror game. You kinda have to accept the fact something bad will likely happen to these characters.
Imagine caring what ethnicity a psychotic serial killer is. Take your virtual signaling back to Twitter please, we care about things like "fun" and "balance" here, not politics and race. Thanks.
Because i don’t like hating on stuff that shouldn’t matter, since it is actually hurtful to some people
Who said I was hating on it? Why are you projecting?
Care to elaborate? Because it so far sounds to me you just want to wash out the already very wide crowd we have, which on it's own is kind of questionable judgement :thinking_emoji:
I geniually hate this trendy representation era, it's a one sided debate where if you don't really care about every culture being somewhere in a movie, video game or series you're just getting hard called racist.
How can people being that butthurt about people uncaring about colors & origins? Isn't it a proof of tolerance?
I didn’t mean you, I literally answered a from me quoted post.
also I never asked for more representation at all, I even said in this thread that we do have some of the requested chars from the OP...
well, talking about projecting :D
Not caring is not a problem at all though?
its the hate for any representation that’s the problem.
Since you quoted me I had no reason to believe you weren't talking to me. Just sayin'.
bhvr has included a lot, why is this a constant thread? They have different nationalities, skin colors and weight classes (body types.) Hell!! some characters are implied (im not getting into who) to represent different sexualites. However no matter how detailed into arbitrary lore they get, its never seems to be enough. I dare say, people keep making these thread for the same reason as nerf threads. Thus: "We got a reaction before, lets see how far we can push it ." This is NEVER a good thing.
Look again. I quoted someone else and then you quoted me. Just sayin‘
No, it's the intolerance for anyone not parading problems that aren't theirs that's the problem.
Isn't Deathslinger also Irish? Or part Irish?
That would be a problem, but it didn’t really happen here, did it?
I mean, it's happening here in the thread already, so yeah it's a thing.
It’s literally not happening.
Since this topic has been brought I'd like to draw attention to the fact that this game has zero representation to people who have nanism.
Here's the problem with demanding representation where there's already a lot.
Two problems, time(patience) and variability(which ones get picked?).
I'm completely for the inclusion of every possible race, mixed, monster mythos out there, but what happens when the next killer isn't "your" killer or the survivor(s) don't represent your race, and you continually perpetuate the idea that BHVR won't cater to diversity? What happens when your representation is met, but there are already seven similar-but-not-exactly representations? Claudette is Canadian, Detective Tapp is American, Adam Francis is Jamaican, the Wraith is an African(possibly Nigerian) Immigrant to the US, the Hag is African but that's a pretty vague location.
Are we going to complain if another African character is added to the game? Are we going to claim a lack of diversity if a specific Afro-ethnic character isn't added to the game? Obviously the same argument applies to every race, included and yet to be included, but since there are so many black characters in the game it's easy to point out how many characters of a single(read: broad) race exist. There exists so many different cultures within the race of X that it's impossible to include everyone in four years.
If you've got an idea for a race you personally would like to see, I highly suggest you submit your designs, the culture behind them, a lore that could fit within this eldritch horror universe, to BHVR in whatever appropriate manner exists. But the expectation of a Canadian company to know everything about everything is a little short sighted. No one's going to know everything, and if the bar to entry for a company is an understanding of every culture so they can implement and represent all races and cultures equally, no company today should exist. Period.
No. Oddly specific areas if you want representation for everyone.
Though an Australian killer does sound badass.
Aren't the characters already diverse 🤔
It's not enough.
It'll never be enough.
why thread like this happen all the characters diverse more get added oh and it video game have fun i know that hard.
It's never enough.
Case in point: I'm an open gay but still called homophobic for not wanting more gay characters forced into Overwatch lmao
Until I saw his tome cinematic a couple days ago I had NO idea that Doctor was black. This feels simultaneously good for representation (there's nothing "stereotypically black" about him, either in his behavior or backstory or appearance) and bad (until I saw that cinematic, I'd just assumed he was white because I hadn't noticed anything that suggested otherwise, although maybe that just tells on me. 😊)
Similarly, when I read Wraith's bio I thought from his last name (Ojomo) that he was Latino, but looking up that last name just now it seems more likely that he is actually black as well (all the top hits for real people named Ojomo are for the author Efosa Ojomo).