If ruin changes go live, me and a bunch of other killers are probably gonna quit
Killers have already been using ruin BECAUSE of how BADLY this game is balanced around gen speeds and "map pressure". killers NEEDED the time that ruin bought. and with this current version of ruin? it is garbage. now more than likely by the time you hook 1 person, GARUNTEE, whether they are able to hit greats or not. 1 gen will pop when you hook a survivor with a 2nd gen close to popping if not already popped. AND YOU ONLY HAVE GOTTEN 1 HOOK. Q times for survivors in red ranks was already bad. but now? I firmly believe that the amount of red rank killers that will actually keep playing after this change will only be in the double didgets.
if someone asked me "what is THE WORST thing BHVR could do to this game balance wise?" my answer would be to nerf ruin. and BOY did they not just NERF IT, THEY LEGIONED IT
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You're so mixed up with your arguments that you don't even understand what I presented to you anymore.
I said nothing about stats and Spirit.
You're still straw-manning. I said nothing about me playing against Spirit.
Ah well, this is a Ruin thread anyways. I shouldn't care anymore lol.
Go back to page 5 of this thread. You mention spirit on at least two different posts. How can my arguments be mixed when you don't remember what you posted
You need to go back. You're bringing up the stats about Nurse in relation to Spirit. You're the one that doesn't remember what was posted lol.
You're literally the one that bought up the stats stating insinuating Nurse was the worst killer. I mentioned Spirit being one of the best killers initially, before these stats were even mentioned. I don't understand how you don't even understand your own discussion.
"You're still straw-manning. I said nothing about me playing against Spirit" this is a quote from you. On page 5 you go on and on about how hard spirit is to play against.
The only thing you have said that is accurate this while thread is that this should be about ruin, so I'll give you that one.
The overall point you are missing though is this ruin change is yet another pointless killer nerf (like the nurse and spirit ones)
Ok bye then. The less toxic killers the better.
Who are you going to play against when all the killers leave? Spoken like a toxic survivor
Try out the ptb first you and other killers are acting like small kids,and it's really sad that you and the other killers are overreacting.:(
Also let me remind you killer mains survivors said simlier things before this change. And oh my now killers are saying the same thing, oh nooo what are we going to do I know let's complain and threaten to leave this game cause the devs cater to survivors and only want money rip dbd,
You are acting like small kids. just stop. And test out the ptb.
I don't see how Spirit is dead, They barely touch her
If trying to survive makes me toxic then so be it, but I’m actually far from it. I play the game fairly on either side. I have no “main”
Fam I will ######### quit because of the Doc changes thinking that this insanity is in some way considered to be a "Rework" is just madness I will definetly ######### off if that's the future of patches
I won't quit. We will probably let it into the past and use other builds
This is the best thing ever.
Bye
Bye Felicia
Spoken like a toxic killer who only plays killer because of mummy issues
Good one. You really got me there. I hope you also enjoy your long lobby times in BHVRs new game, Dead by Boredom
Plot twist: This could actually have been posted by someone who plays as killer. I sincerely hope so, cos all you killers bitching about it need a bit of perspective. I mean, how boring a person u must be if u really want games to be that easy and go by in a flash with zero or minimal effort. Like Killers aren't already OP with all these mad perks like No ed and devour hope. All you killers moaning about a bit of nerfing to balance the game are obviously layabouts who have everything done for you and never had to work a day or even 30 mins in your entire life, so you expect the same in your games. #########, I'd want 4k when playing as killer, but no effort = no fun. Bore off you slack ass pussies
Speaking to you is as boring tbh. Suck up the changes, we all have to.
That's the thing, we don't have to. But little you will continue to suck up all the crap and then thank the devs for it. That's what this whole thread (and many others) are all about.
I play both roles:) but I'm more of a killer main:) I don't mind the changes.
Dead by boredom of toxic killers always bitching because for once they have to put just a little bit of effort into something. Btw, 2 games have loaded for me since your whining posts, so you're already wrong. RIP. Hopefully one day u will leave your momma's basement, but I doubt it tbh. If u ever do, PLEASE don't go on a killing spree 😕
Well thank you, I wish more would think like you
What are you, 12 years old? All you do is go on about my mother and using phrases like "toxic killer." When you grow up maybe we can have a real discussion. Until then look at the numerous threads filled with people unhappy about wait times and the ruin changes. Undoubtedly you will just call everyone else toxic as well though
Btw, that wasn't a comeback, I meant it
And my posts were roughly 12-15 minutes apart. Hope you had fun with your 7 minute games
I don't even understand the point of these type of threads anymore.
They literally make 0 sense because it's not like the game will suddenly change because of a handful of people leaving. Needless to say many bubbles will burst when they realize that just because they left the game didn't die.
Exactly lol. A few people leaving won’t hurt the game or the player base. I’d rather not have these type of people playing the game tbh.
Ikr
You wouldn't know real if it bit you. When you grow up, maybe you will see how pathetic you look moaning about a game online and being like this to people who disagree. Btw, no I don't call everyone toxic, only no lifers like you. Oh and FYI, I never actually said anything about your mother, I said you have mummy issues and that u never leave your momma's basement, they were about you, not her. What a r3t4rd you really are
You totally missed the point, games are loading, so your earlier claim was wrong, so RIP
What's more pathetic is complaint about someone complaining online, then calling them a #########. And I don't care if you got lucky and got into matches quickly. Those matches were over too soon, most likely as a result of the ruin nerf.
I love talking to keyboard warriors like yourself, it reminds me who really is a "no lifer" (your words, not mine). Thanks for keeping it civil young man.
Keyboard warrior? Says the one who asks people their age because they disagree. I bet u wouldn't dare say that stuff in person, not just with me, with anyone. Only pussies who only say stuff online call others keyboard warriors to try and act like they're tough, I wasn't even acting tough, so fail.
You were keeping it so civil before I said anything, but now that I'm saying things that are probably true, it's too much for you to handle. PS. My age is not your business, but I am not young. I called u a r3t4rd because you are acting like one. Now go away and play Minecraft, that might be more your style. If you wanna have the last word, go ahead, but I'm done with you. DBD will be better off without whingebag killers like you, you won't be missed. Oh and btw, I actually do have a life, which does not depend on playing a game just to get EZ 4K kills and then moaning about nerfs online. VG
I mean, for everyone saying they're leaving, see yall next week. As usual.
Exactly! Why keep moaning about it? Without even giving it a chance?
using ruin makes us toxic?
No. You saying what you said makes you, yourself, toxic.
that is true for small changes and changes to individual killers
this is a nerf to a perk used by all killers most of the time. and a HUGE NERF, legioning it. more people will leave / just not play killer once ruin nerf goes live. more people than you think.
I for one will only think about playing killer only if I use an E mori. other than that I will be playing only survivor. with this change tho survivor Q times will rocket. and the rate of tunneling, camping, moris, iri heads, etc will be much more common
Suuureee lol. You have no idea how this works. The majority of killers aren’t immature like you.
but they will only take so much abuse before they leave
That's because they either use Freddy, Hillbilly, or Spirit with a totally different combination of perks that makes it easier to get around Ruin. Not every killer has that
I have literally only used Ruin on Trapper, Hag, and Michael. I get 3-4ks most games with Huntress, Doc, and Wraith with no Ruin in purple ranks.
Honestly just switch up your builds and go for it. Contrary to popular belief, you don't NEED Ruin.
The teams who are devastated by Ruin are teams you can mop up without it tbh.
I don't think it needed to be nerfed THAT badly, but it was more of an annoyance than anything else to me when I play survivor.
also I used ruin as a cushion on all my killers to play "nice" you know, no camping, tunneling, not much slugging, trying to 3 hook everyone so everyone has a fun match and gets BP, without ruin I would have to do all those things or I would probably only get 1-2 kills per game in red ranks most games, and that is not fun to be FORCED to do those things. makes it not fun for the survivors to. and so due to the large increase of that some other people will probably quite to because of it. and any new players will see this
lobby sim
get into the game, they get tunneled and camped
they then uninstall the game because that is not fun
Yes, it's pretty questionable behavior to threaten people into leaving if you don't have things exactly your way. I didn't think that would need explaining
im fine with this not going exactly my way, if I had things my way DBD would look allot different, less safe pallets. more punishments for camping/tunneling, slower gens/2nd obj. all god loops blocked etc. but with recent killer nerfs then this? this was the straw that broke the camels back
Can you guys stopcomplaining about Ruin nerfs on be half of us other killers. Im fine with the changes and I'm a Spirit main that 3-4k's always without ruin. Its time for you guys to learn your killer instead of getting carried by a perk.
@SteelDragon
Then go right ahead. Use whatever you feel like you need to use in order to win. No one is forcing you to play one way or another, it is your choice.
The point is that by you making this thread it isn't really helping the discussion. It is viewed as a threat, and not a good one at that. The game is not unplayable because Ruin has been reworked.
"Recent killer nerfs" were all deserved.
Gen times are fine, map size isn't.
All the new maps are already coming with extremely unsafe pallets and I'm not even sure it's a good thing the way it's being done, since it pretty much encourages pallet camping from the survivors and Bloodlusting as killer.
You're simply focusing on the negative to strenghten your narrative.
Like if you wanna quit just do, no need to spread questionable information to make people angry.