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@Rizora18 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312549#Comment_1312549
Just get better bro. BVHR is actually putting challenges out that are really easy. I get almost all my challenges done in one round. Even that Dwight one. The devs them selves are terrible at their game so why would they make impossible challenges? Play and learn.
Great argument, "JuSt GeT bEtTeR bRo" Dude you didn't understand anything. Huntress' hatchets hixbox it's broken with ded servers, sometimes hatchets hits you when it shouldn't and it doesn't hits you when it should. I doubt that devs knows what they're doing. They never fix a ######### (Ded servers, Myers' stalking broken, grabbing animation it's bugged). And probably they'll never fix Huntress. So boring to play as and against that stupid killer.
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I don't have any problem spending money on a game. But I want to see this money reflecting in the game with good optimization, good ded servers and bugs fixed, an interesting Rift challenges, good content. DBD lacks of that. They're just hungry for money and they do the minimum for their game now. They offer so little and they ask so much for i.e. a dumb single cosmetic. There's no point to buy a cosmetic or buy a Rift pass.
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@Todgeweiht said:
Yeah, MoM is the biggest fiasco in the game to date. No reason for it to be there only for it to be a shameless cash grab.
Ah the MoM times. When all people used it and killers dc'ed over and over. Two weeks later when the DLC couldn't sell anymore, bam, MoM's neff. Broken af and a dirty move from BHVR.
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@ShErMaDeRmA said:
I remember why I dont like this community again
At least isn't like LoL one or Dota. That ones... Yep better not to mention.
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312574#Comment_1312574
Well he was on stream, its like the manager at wal mart politely smiling at the Karen screaming about her coupons. On the inside she wants to shake someone.
How does one go about watching a dev play killer, that sounds cathartic...
I think I know who he is. That guy looks like he got a brainwash to think Dbd it's perfect and fine and fun af.
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312577#Comment_1312577
Gen time was not ######### up, you just refused to leave your precious perk and get better at the game which on the long run was more detrimental than anything. To add up, they couldnt do anything with "gen speed" because it ruin was an uncontrollable variable that messed their data up.
Thats why in recent patches we got the exquisite nerfs to toolboxes and map changes.
Exactly dude. Ruin wasn't necessary if you play good as killer putting pressure to survivors and not depending on a perk to avoid survivors to do gens. It's a matter of skill.
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312571#Comment_1312571
😆😂. Yes your rant is a joke. I've seen SO MANY threads about stupid complaints. From so many one sided biased, unknowledgeable people that want it their way. On both sides.
And killer exodus? ######### LOL.
Sorry that calling out an easy point upset you so much that you felt the need to mockingly laugh in response and type a novel about it.
Stop letting stupid ######### upset you and enjoy the game. Because if the "ruin nerf" ALONE got any killers to quit, they were either already bad, or not patient enough to learn the game. It wasnt ever that good to justify quitting over it changing. It's just moody people who cant have what they want.
And again as you'll see while diving my profile, I play and argue both sides.
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II think I love you ♥ So much truth in every single word.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312549#Comment_1312549
I watched a dev play killer tonight. He got destroyed in every game I saw. Losing to gen rush, toxic survivors, and second chance perks. Not a single hint of frustration out of him. He played with the enthusiasim of a mechanic changing the oil in his car. If you can't tell when something is frustrating, you have no business working on it.
They just ignore facts. They think in their tiny little brain that everything in this game it's fine, there are no bugs, ded servers are working fine and not laggy af, people plays Huntress like Umbra and DBD being the best game in history. Devs does it all the time. They ignore everything. They don't care. They ignore that there's a lot of people Hacking (I opened a ticket for a surv Hacking 5 days ago and still none response) Spirit's power it's still a problem, Huntress' hatchets and Myers are broken in ded servers, grabbing animation still bugged, killer still spawning so close to survivors at the beginning of the match... But hey, who wants some ######### cosmetics released every single Wednesday people?
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312422#Comment_1312422
Lol imagine being so mad about a change to a perk that was already almost useless, that you just quit playing that role instead of learning to not lean on it.
Exactly. Relying all your "skill as killer" in one single perk. And quitting just for that jeez. Ruin nerf was dumb that's true (devs encourage even more the camping and tunneling with that) but depending so much on a one single useless perk that almost all matches got cleansed in the first 5 sec of the match and good ppl doesn't had a problem with it because they could hit red skill checks, it's even worst.
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@Sir_WAFFLZ said:
The matchmaking is busted and after about 3 games in a row as a rank 12 killer getting paired with red ranks I decided that playing killer isnt worth it. I'm not learning anything by losing within the first 5 minutes of the game. I'm not improving. If anything this busted system is making me dislike the game. Less and less people want to play killer because they get stomped over and over meaning survivors cant find lobbies for their ranks so they get cranked with whoever is open. This is a self perpetuating problem. Honestly this is just to vent, but I don't see why anyone would play killer unless you are already top tier. It's a bad experience that ruins my enjoyment of the game as a whole. So I'll just stick to surv and stomp the baby killers until the game dies out
Blame BVHR for making killer boring and with that stupid ridiculous Rift killer challenges (like the Huntress one, hitting a surv with a hatch with a distance of 15 meters). I mean, it's dumb af that devs expect us to be experts playing with her just to make a stupid challenge. It should be a reasonable and good one. Not a try hard one. That confirmed me even more that devs hasn't idea of what they do to their game because they don't play it. Playing Killer it's masoquism imo.
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@NursesBootie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312463#Comment_1312463
Ever played nurse and got screwed by her gamebreaking bugs partly introduced with her rework? Yeah about that.
Freddy got a nerf, some numbers of his slowdown addons are lower now, that's the definition of a nerf. Still strong now, as you said.
Oni's power needs a lot of skill. And the player needs to have good killer knowledge to get early game hits against good survivors. 40° spin wasn't fine, i guess we can agree on that?
Spirit is not as easy as freddy, but definitly way easier than nurse. If you noticed it, they nerfed a lot of her addons. And "Prayer Beads" is pretty much useless now.
She's still strong dude, the most strongest broken power in DBD. She's not bugged anymore so...
Freddy is still pretty strong and annoying with good perk combinations (Dying Light, Pop) and that purple chains to reduce Gen repair speed.
No, Oni isn't hard. You just need to calculate the range when you use the power. And it's ridiculous the way he gets his power jeez.
Dude spirit it's ez af. A good pair of headphones, Stridor, pressing m2 after hurting a survivor and voila, you got a survivor hooked. Idk why people thinks spirit needs skill. I play her when I go killer sometimes and always it's 3 or 4 kills. She's ridiculous broken and doesn't need skill, he power needs a rework.
The strong infinite ones and toolboxes deserved a nerf but they screwed with maps like Coldwind with only 3 safe pallets?? You could ask for no pallets map in that case. No point to got rid of so many of them. Devs just makes the things easier for killer community like always do. Caring a lot for not skilled killers (99 % of them)
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@SpiritLover1133 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312474#Comment_1312474
I looped a hillbilly for 5 gens WITHOUT dropping a single pallet. Video proof
now show me a video of you looping
You'll have to wait until tomorrow. I don't have videos on my cell phone and I'm not the guy who make dbd videos.
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@HollowsGrief said:
Tell you what: I'ma get my three buddies I play Survivor with and we can que up some KYF and we'll show you just how easy killer can be.
Sure. It's ez af with killers like spirit with her green recharge or duration addons, with mori, BBQ, noed, and all that stuff.
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@Nos37 said:
Takes forever to find a match as Survivor. Killer queues are instant.
Tells me no one's playing Killer.
Why is that? Do people not want "ez kills?" Do they prefer a challenge with the new "Survivor Hard Mode?"
Rift challenges dude. Some ones doesn't play killer cause it's boring af just hitting and hooking
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@SpiritLover1133 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312474#Comment_1312474
I looped a hillbilly for 5 gens WITHOUT dropping a single pallet. Video proof
now show me a video of you looping
You'll have to wait for tomorrow cause I'm not playing right now and I'm not the kind of guy who records himself playing dbd.
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312474#Comment_1312474
You use all the pallets in just 3 gens? 😂😂😂 Youre that dude that just runs from one pallet to the next and pallet camps arent you. I like guys like you.
No I don't camp pallets lol. ######### I never said that.
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312463#Comment_1312463
Just out of curiousity, what rank killer are you and whats your main?
4, I ranked up just for the challenges. Killer after a time it's boring, just chasing and hooking over and over. And I don't have a main killer I just play that I want
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@SpiritLover1133 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312453#Comment_1312453
you are not looping right dude. Survivors since ruin nerf are at their STRONGEST so this period is super easy escape and knowing you are struggling despite having broken perks like DS and unbreakable.. Mmm there must be something wrong with your looping style.
Imagine being so bad as killer to rely on ONE SINGLE PERK to play good as killer and blaming a perk nerf. I loop well don't worry, but still camped or tunneled after killers got titled cause I run them for 3 gens and there are no pallets anymore. And no, I don't use crutch perks like DS.
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@NursesBootie said:
Nurse, Spirit, Freddy, Oni, Ruin. Judt the last half year. Killers got nerfs too yknow.
OK here we go
Nurse was reworked, her power it's still the most broken one. She needs more skill now.
Freddy doesn't got a nerf with that reworked add-ons, he's still strong with his no-needed skill teleporting to gens power.
Oni has now a better spin with his power after killer mains complained and cried (like always do) and he's pretty strong. Doesn't need much skill either just hitting survivors and pressing M2 to take orbs.
Spirit's prayer bead was a trash nerf, her power it's still broken and a problem. And like Freddy, she doesn't need skill
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@SpiritLover1133 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312369#Comment_1312369
Wow 3K-4K everymatch ?
its either you are a lier or you are playing in a server that is full of potatoes. Im talking about survivors who can loop killers for minutes and also, if the killer camps or tunnels then he probably bad at the game and happy with his kill so its your fault of being easy down. I hope you still get Camped/Tunnled/Morid until you get better at the game and loop killers for 5 gens like I do.
Have DS and STOP whining at a game that FAVORS survivor.
Here we go with the "surv sided game" mediocre argument hahaha. I didn't lied, they're very good because they know mechanics of the game that I'm trying to learn. I consider myself a good survivor but it's annoying that it doesn't matter because killers got rewarded for playing like morons and survs got killed just because a guy wants to camp or tunnel a guy who ran him good. Stop saying that trash that game favours survivors, after all those nerfs. Cmon don't be dumb.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312399#Comment_1312399
My sense of time is off with all the ######### going down in my country. It was the week starting the 22nd-ish of last month.
And you're arguing that escaping 2 months ago with only 3 (usually) trash perks is easier than escaping now with 4 good ones? Christ man.
Dude you didn't understand nothing. Knock it off
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@AvengerBear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312365#Comment_1312365
Sadly, camping wins them the game or at least draw with 2k most of the time even in red ranks. I've had matches where survivors just crouched around me and watched me till I died even when I had Kindred on. I was furious not because I didn't get saved, but the camper gets rewarded for camping with 4K.
Killers shouldn't be rewarded for playing mediocre yep.
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@NursesBootie said:
Nurse, Spirit, Freddy, Oni, Ruin. Judt the last half year. Killers got nerfs too yknow.
Nurse was reworked, her power it's still broken she just need more skill than before. Freddy add-ons doesn't make a difference, his power it's still strong (teleporting to pallets very fair and you don't need skill to play him). Devs returned some of that old Oni spin after killer main community cried a lot. And Spirit's Prayers bead nerf doesn't make a difference either, her power it's still a problem like Freddy (broken af and you don't need skill to play with her and got 4K)
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@Xerge said:
What do the nerfs have to do with camping? What survivor nerf has made camping easier than it was before?
They don't need to effort a lot to get kills like before. Literally every patch and this one was strong af (they got rid of God pallets) and killers when they got well runned even with this nerfs they got mad and camp or tunnel.
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II really hope so. Killers had so many nerfs. They need to improve and stop whining.
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@SaltedSnow said:
Don't make things up. I did every survivor adept in a week 2 months ago.
You said it. 2 months ago. Things are different now. I think you didn't read a thing
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312365#Comment_1312365
99% of the time when I get yelled at for camping there was a reason for it. I just had someone in my dms complaining about camping. Were in egc, I can see Jane right there, what am I supposed to do?
I mean in Egc it's understandable . But with 4 or 5 gens? Just keeping back over and over to the hook? Did survivor yelled for it in that situation? Or killer is playing like a dbag "just for fun"?
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@0mikeya0 said:
Honestly, the nerfs are pretty fair, like the god loops should have been fixed a long time ago (survivor main btw).... I do understand your frustration about the camping, I think the devs said their working on something to make camping less appealing. Honestly though, I don't understand how they have fun by just standing in one spot or walking around a hooked survivor the whole trial. Now I do understand camping in certain circumstances, like in end game.
I've been camped a lot of times since I returned to the game dude. With 4 or 5 gens still. And yeah, some infinites were broken af (That one in Ironworks McMillan'a Map) but devs doesn't nerf killers or killer perks or add-ons that are broken or unfair (i.e. the green Deathslinger add-on who makes him recharge so fast and the green one to reel you faster, Huntress One shot Hatchet Iridescent addon, Spirit's power still broken, etc)
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312351#Comment_1312351
I do agree in that part with you, killer mains just keep complaining about everything despite the buffs they have gotten, they are very sensible to every little thing the devs do against them and treat it as a war crime. It just gets annoying.
I know. Very annoying. I mean, literally every single patch since like about 2 years are survivors nerfs. They just keep complaining over and over. I have friends with 3k hours or 2k hours and they play every single killer and get 4K or 3K every match. They're learned to be good. And that's what killers need to learn. Not camping around or proxy camp a dude just because you can't catch the other ones or you can't stop them from doing gens.
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1312323#Comment_1312323
As someone who is also currently red in both sides, I completely disagree with him. Both sides will be difficult if you are a complete potato.
Yep. And killer isn't that hard now. The ones who complains a lot should try 2016 DBD. That was hardcore mode for killers. Not now.
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@Todgeweiht said:
Well, it so happens I also left this game for 3 weeks and I havent noticed a damn thing besides the fact most god loops are gone.
Yep :( only a few ones survived the nerf. But we still have the Ormond and Temple ones. But Coldwind God pallets are gone forever :(
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@ShErMaDeRmA said:
Try killer if its that easy
I do and I got 3/4 k every match. Killer isn't so hard. But some of them want so many help for devs to compensate their lack of skill.
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@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1250844#Comment_1250844
Mediocre is a nice way to describe it lol
Hahah well, I mean, they are. They're killing the game, the patch it's awful; a lot of bugs, they got rid of good pallets (killer it's ez mode now), Laggy ded servers (Devs said "I'tS a LaTeNcY iSsUe") and huntress still broken. I hate this stupid game now, they turned it trash
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@obamagaming99 said:
huntress looks okay but that really is the only good thing on here. Personally every outfit there looks so normie and basic. Everyone is saying it looks so good but for me it's their worst one yet. Anyone agree?
Only DBD devs had the "brilliant idea" of making challenges about one of the most broken killers with Ded Servers. Pretty good job so far devs, keep going this game it's great that before, full of bugs and forcing us to play with anti aliasing. So ######### cool!!!
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Forcing us to play with anti aliasing, and having no graphic options (making DBD one of the few games that you can't customize graphics) it's one of the most stupid decisions BHVR could do. And they're deleting people comments in the forum making good arguments about this just because they're not sucking their balls like other people or their Fog Whisperers do. Like always, they don't tolerate different opinions. And you can ban me too devs. Boring to have devs who doesn't tolerate people who disagree with you guys.
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@DrVeloxcity said:
I'm going to get straight to the point. I do not think it is fair to receive a matchmaking lock after 1 disconnect.
My connection isnt perfect even though I use a LAN connection, and at times my router will just reset itself. It is extremely disheartening to be having a good match and then your connection goes out on it's own.
The icing on the cake is seeing a matchmaking lock once you load back to the pre-queue lobby.
Please be a bit more lenient with the bans, BHVR. Or at least configure your system to be able to tell the difference between blatant DCs and a connection loss. (This happened to me twice today and I am now on a 15 minute ban even though I did nothing wrong).
What do you guys think? I dont think it is fair to be punished for something that is out of your control.
Or maybe you can get a better ISP. Dude, c'mon BVHR doesn't fix a #########. They don't care anymore, now they have the In-Game Store and co$metic$ and it's all that matters. Look how the game is now: broken sounds, ded servers aren't working well (although devs said "tHey ArE fIne, it'S a LaTeNcY iSsUe"), Ghostface stalking still bugged, the toolbox "nerf", Maps are still a #########. They won't fix it. I mean not now, maybe in a year or never.
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@ZoneDymo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1149510#Comment_1149510
C:\Users\YOURNAMEHERE\AppData\Local\DeadByDaylight\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor
Go the the engine.ini file, in there paste the following:
[/Script/Engine.GarbageCollectionSettings]
r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing=0
r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing=2
r.DefaultFeature.MotionBlur=False
r.DefaultFeature.LensFlare=False
r.TemporalAACurrentFrameWeight=0.2
r.TemporalAASamples=64
r.TemporalAASharpness=0.6
r.Tonemapper.Sharpen=1.3
r.PostProcessAAQuality=4
(without the spaces in between the lines, idk the forum here does that for my typing)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161650283057774595/687021023991824511/unknown.png
Then put that file on "read only" by right clicking it and going for properties
This worked fine for me. Thank you dude
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@Endstille said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1144332#Comment_1144332
I think it was regarded as an exploit some mod ( dont remember the name mentioned it). Kinda funny that they ban people for that and hook tech is fine while they look for a fix for it. 🤷
Because they're survivor biased that's why. They don't care a ######### about killer community. I'm a surv main but killers have to take too much bullshit from BVHR and they don't fix anything.
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@gatsby said:
Slugging and camping does nothing for the emblem system. You won't rank up even in the scenario that everyone tries to be altruistic and the game ends in a 4k.
So why do Killers play like that?
Like If ranking matters lmfao. People slugs and camps 'cause game's broken with too much survivor ######### now and without ruin, killers have to be aggresive. I mean, killers have to kill lol. Blame devs for ruining the game for them, not fixing a ######### and just giving bs explanations about game issues instead fixing it.
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@voiceofguns27 said:
Remember the bouquets? It's the new moon offering for those two. It's even worse when playing Freddy. I'd disconnect if I was playing him. Screw the penalty. Why should I be penalized at the incompetence of the developers who can't simply adjust that? I'm glad I rarely get that map. When I do, I just simply say the famous echo chamber slogan at Behavior headquarters...good job so far.
I don't really blame you, that map is trash
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Who cares as long as it’s a killer problem. Just like mute survivor sound in the dying state, sounds in general, the Wraith-flashlight bug, etc.
It really shows after the Ruin nerf that the devs favor survivors and will cater to their needs, just take a look at how fast DS was fixed when it was bugged with Doctor’s skill checks.
Yep, I mean I'm not a killer main but yep, that's true. Devs are so ######### survivor biased, no matter how many times they denied it. The fact that toolboxes are getting nerfed it's just because killer population it's very very low now after Ruin. It's a pity, BHVR is killing slowly their only successfull game (since Deathgarden was garbage and died pretty fast) with poorly decisions, bad balancing and optimization.
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@Stonuk said:
I don't give a damn about brightness of the maps. Nvidia Experience and it's bright as day.
Looks horrible with filters. Devs should fix that but Idk if they will.
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@kreeper124 said:
I don't think the devs have ever commented on it sadly
Yep, that's the problem. They never commented any issue in the game, they just ignore facts like that one or sounds broken, ded servers working like sh!t, etc.
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@Mert_MK said:
Let me do the same on Survivor Side once and hopefully you realize how stupid it is. Been seeing too many threads from Killers where they 4k while using a mori with the strongest add ons and think they are good or when they're proud of making others DC by facecamping, tunneling and slugging.
It's ridiculous how you can turn the match in your favor easily by bringing a certain item with add ons or offering (survivor/killer sided map or mori) so you might as well stop with these posts where you stomped a team or killer and had to rely on that stuff in order to win.
Yes i am doing the same here now but it's just an example. It was clearly over for the Killer from the beginning with all this stuff we brought in.
Don't worry, toolboxes will be nerfed. I don't find fun as survivor main ending the match in 2 min with toolboxes and BNP's, boring af Zzzz. The good part of DBD it's being chased and not getting caught, not holding M1 on a gen. I'm so glad it will be nerfed.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138748#Comment_1138748
It really was. That is your choice.
It wasn't at all. I will, it won't be fun for survivors PepeHands
@Todgeweiht said:
Not a mistake, just applied in the wrong moment.
It is, maps are not well designed, gen rush still exist, there are only 4 viable killers... The only thing to make some time was ruin.
@underlord99 said:
I mean I've been playing pig for the past week at rank 1 and I've been doing fine. just gotta play different, a lot sweatier!
Playing sweaty isn't fun at all dude. That's not a good solution.
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@InTheBushes321 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138723#Comment_1138723
Even with Oni or Billy or other strong kier's, you have to slug at high ranks. It's not possible to win against a good team otherwise.
Whoever designs maps for this game is just so fantastically bad at what they do. That's the real problem with this game; terrible, terrible map design. It's not balanced in over 90% of cases, with the majority of those cases favoring survivor.
But I doubt they'll fix maps. Devs/community managers never engage in real, substantive discussion at length on the forums when its pointed out that the map design is so bad. Maybe they're not allowed. Fine. But it doesn't change the fact that the map design from a balance perspective is the real reason this game is so terribly imbalanced.
And we know that so far they're mostly interested in band-aid fixes. That's what the BL nerf was, after all. They decided to rework Lery's, for no good reason, instead of reworking the broken disaster that maps like Haddonfield, Rotten Fields, Thompson House, Cowshed, etc, are.
And add the ded servers launch that it was a total disaster. Phantom hits, Huntress hitboxes now are broken, and saying it's a "latency issue" instead admiting they screwed it with ded servers and saying "Dedicated servers are fine" Jeez
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@Mtom912 said:
People are doing gens at solo survivor? Bro where are they for me, every rank 1 random I get uses more pallets than they get objective points
Dude I escaped like almost all of my matches as solo surv. With my SWF we escaped all almost every match. It's not challeging playing survivor unless you go against a really good killer. As killer it is, and frustating
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138712#Comment_1138712
Nah, they do care. Ruin nerf needed to happen, it just happened at a very bad time. It sucks, I know, but it can only make you an even better player.
I wasn't necessary. I guess I'm just gonna play Spirit and Billy all day
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@Mister_Holdout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138728#Comment_1138728
The devs play the game, they're just incompetent when it comes to balance.
They are. I mean nerfing ruin only because "new players have issues hitting great skill checks" and " cause killers are using this perk a lot" it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in this game
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@Zaitsev said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138734#Comment_1138734
Even a limited event, like bringing double killers would honestly be amazing.
Or giving survivors another objective besides doing gens. That would be cool too