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@altruistic said:
Sure I try to hide.
Killer meanwhile has scratch marks, blood trails (soon to be somewhat less bad because of Yui's new perk), BBQ and Chili, Whispers, Infectious Fright, Surveillance, Discordance, Predator and etc.
You are correct, the hide and seek experience of old is long gone.
It's too easy for Killers to track, and Survivors have too many get out of jail cards to compensate. It's pretty dumb tbh.
Then you have those teams that make you look like a absolute joke by all looping you and when you finally catch one blinded by flashlight.
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@oxygen said:
Highly doubt it'll make it to live in the first place. Someone like Freddy having a similar interaction with borrowed time is one thing as that's a perk and not a straight up killer power, but with how hard Legion's ability to do this sort of thing was sent to the shadow realm the first time I honestly can't imagine the devs would ever let it through 🙂
Yeah and then legions dead beyond belief because they removed all his synergies and he doesnt even get nemesis to compensate *clap* good job devs hes already the weakest killer in dbd.
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@luka2211 said:
looping and handling tiles as killer and as a survivor requires more skill then just hiding for an hour straight.Thats why i love this game,the chases.If it was just hide and seek as it was advertised i wouldn't play it
Im fine with a good chase im not fine with a area that makes it impossible for the killer to catch up. (Infinites).
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Dark devotion legion was fine the problem is if they dont push nemesis to live and fix it then legion really doesnt have any perks he lost stbfl sloppy and dark devotion and got hit with a good bit of nerfs with no compensation.
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https://youtu.be/ZnHmskwqCCQ
Chasing a survivor.
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I feel like when a survivor and me run around a car it should play that joke chase music. It feels like one of those scenes were someone is chasing someone else and they both go to a opposite side of a table moving back and forth around it.
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I wanna see leatherface get a pretty princess dress nothing scarerier then watching a girly leatherface chase you with a chainsaw lol.
(In all seriousness that looks good so yeah im for it)
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I like this man lol.
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Yet dark devotion legion was meh at best. Nemesis legion is alittle better if they dont gimp him im fine with this tradeoff. But if they fix nemesis and yet keep the nerfs and the fact he lost dark devotion sloppy and stbfl welp sorry to say it legion but no reason to play you. (Even with nemesis legion im struggling to find what to play though since legion lost acess to a few perks that made him nice).
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@myers_obsession said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/855005#Comment_855005
Ah I See my problem. I thought they just go down. I didnt hit them with ff again. So if I hit them 3 times with ff they are down like with release legion ?
Basically nemesis when your stunned with a pallet for 40 seconds the survivor gets the status effect that makes them immune to tr. So you get hit from the pallet so that removes 5 seconds so you have to be really quick because even if you smack them with ff if nemesis runs out they wont bleed out.
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@myers_obsession said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/855005#Comment_855005
Ah I See my problem. I thought they just go down. I didnt hit them with ff again. So if I hit them 3 times with ff they are down like with release legion ?
Basically how nemesis works is for 40 seconds after you get hit with the pallet the survivor has some kinda effect that makes them immune to tr so what you want to do is smack them with ff. Then they might bleed out but depends on how long you took to hit with them you have to be really quick or else i think the status effect will run out and then they just go back to not going down.
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@myers_obsession said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/854993#Comment_854993
I hitted the Obsession with the normal attack. And I was stunned before I started frenzy. As long as I heard the chase music the timer stopped. And If I stand still the Survs started mending. I didnt get someone down without normal hitting. Try it. It's nearly impossible without normal hitting if the surv isnt a potato xD
Weird i havent had that many problems with nemesis (i dont use bob screw bob) use it with spirit fury so when you break the pallets they throw down then try to eat the pallet they throw down at the end. Pallet insta breaks and they become my obsession then i just smack them with ff. (If they dont 360 juke me around my body hate that so dang much).
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I mean if they make the struggle phase automatic that could prevent people killing themselves off the hook prematurely with the new dc punishment im all for it. Because people forget they now made it so you get banned if you dc to much so now people are like "fine i just will make sure i die on first hook" nope if they make the struggle phase automatic cant do that either. Comeon and play and stop being a coward.
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@myers_obsession said:
I tried the build with Nemesis Dark Devotion and BoP. Not One Single Surv falls on the floor. The timer doesnt go down in a chase i was running behind someone but nothing happened. Maybe you should try it in a real Match and see it's not so op it sounds. You will get the second hit earlier before they go down.
Or did I do something wrong?
Well dark devotion doesnt work anymore along with stbfl because ff doesnt count as a basic attack anymore. Nemesis make sure your stunned with the pallet and make it to the survivor fast enough. Because it takes 20 seconds to recharge the power so you may have like 10 seconds to hit the survivor. Bop is alittle different you have to smack the survivor with ff then follow them till you get bloodlust then they start to bleed out because you become undetectable.
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@Haku said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853884#Comment_853884
The moment you "test it" and he does have it though all he has to do is activate his power and hit you real fast and you are going down in the next seconds no matter what while he just laugh at you. If he has DW reduction addons it will be even faster. It can be abused in so many ways - injured or not it always work, for example it also disable the use of flashlights too. And this is just one perk doing all this ... THe obsession change by itself can be broken in so many ways that needs to be balanced that the Oblivous effect is just an overkill for just a pallet stun/flashlight blind/Head on stun that happens all the time and it is needed to play the game normally. I understand people want something to change for Legion but this is not the answer ..
And as somene else mentioned the Oblivious effect is really problematic and devs have to be really careful. They can't just put it on random perks like that because it creates a lot of problems. Giving it to one killer is one thing. Giving it to all the killers is another story that I don't really like
If anything i want them to fix these 2 and keep him the way he is on live hes a niche pick who can maybe get value with dark devotion by smacking a survivor then going to another and hoping they bleed out in the 30 seconds before dark devotion runs out.
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@CloakedDagger1 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/854091#Comment_854091
Teammates dc or kill self on first hook I get hatch and de pip
Alright well like everything theres a reason for this though its because apparently some survivors would play hide and go seek (IN a bad way) and wait for all survivors to die so they could just get the hatch and leave. Or just wait for the survivors to do the gens and leave. The current system is good because you get rewarded for how good you do (sadly this is a negative because if you get tunneled and camped you just depip and thats how things go i guess).
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Okay...hold on...what? (Im sorry but ive never been so confused reading what a post says).
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@survivormain1105 said:
I mean I get that last part. But that why the made undetectable was. Made to counter it. But it shouldn't give killer info if the survivor doesn't
shrug guess killers finally got one over on survivors.
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How would they even...Moreso id see a buff for a killer when in a SWF match like 25% bonus bp for each survivor in a group or something like that.
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@survivormain1105 said:
What does that have anything to do with it??????
idk thats just what i heard was the reason for it that and it being used because one survivor in a 4man would use it to just tell everyone the killers position all the time.
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@survivormain1105 said:
I belive that BS. They shouldn't be able to see the survivor. I figured they could when I used it once and I saw it light up against a GF but didnt see anything. Why is this a thing.?
because swf with one player hiding in the locker the entire game.
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Might as well keep him the way he is on live at least hes niche if they push the nerfs through and fix those perks he just lost his synergies on live that made him a niche killer so no reason to play him.
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@Haku said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853884#Comment_853884
The moment you "test it" and he does have it though all he has to do is activate his power and hit you real fast and you are going down in the next seconds no matter what while he just laugh at you. If he has DW reduction addons it will be even faster. It can be abused in so many ways - injured or not it always work, for example it also disable the use of flashlights too. And this is just one perk doing all this ... THe obsession change by itself can be broken in so many ways that needs to be balanced that the Oblivous effect is just an overkill for just a pallet stun/flashlight blind/Head on stun that happens all the time and it is needed to play the game normally. I understand people want something to change for Legion but this is not the answer ..
And as somene else mentioned the Oblivious effect is really problematic and devs have to be really careful. They can't just put it on random perks like that because it creates a lot of problems. Giving it to one killer is one thing. Giving it to all the killers is another story that I don't really like
They just might as well keep him the way he is on live at least now hes niche. If all this goes through and those 2 are fixed legion lost all his decent perk synergies so i dont see the reason to play him tbh.
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@Tarvesh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/854017#Comment_854017
No need to... because Furtive Chase makes them become the obsession. It meets Nemesis' requirements.
You have to hit with the pallet for nemesis to activate it doesnt activate even if you are the obsession.
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Pretty sure you can still see them not the other way around though. Not to sure CLARIFICATION PLEASE.
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@Haku said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853884#Comment_853884
The moment you "test it" and he does have it though all he has to do is activate his power and hit you real fast and you are going down in the next seconds no matter what while he just laugh at you. If he has DW reduction addons it will be even faster. It can be abused in so many ways - injured or not it always work, for example it also disable the use of flashlights too. And this is just one perk doing all this ... THe obsession change by itself can be broken in so many ways that needs to be balanced that the Oblivous effect is just an overkill for just a pallet stun/flashlight blind/Head on stun that happens all the time and it is needed to play the game normally. I understand people want something to change for Legion but this is not the answer ..
And as somene else mentioned the Oblivious effect is really problematic and devs have to be really careful. They can't just put it on random perks like that because it creates a lot of problems. Giving it to one killer is one thing. Giving it to all the killers is another story that I don't really like
If anything i want them to fix these 2 but revert the other stuff because at least legion was a niche pick before with the perks that kinda worked but required a good bit of setup but if they fix these 2 and push the nerfs they ran legion over with a semi and drove away. (Revert meaning keeping him the same he is on live).
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853966#Comment_853966
Not really they'll be wasting pallets very fast that'll be worth the slots even if you don't get the frenzy down.
Or dont use a pallet at all and loop him at a window or other things further wasting his time so he has to smack you or do what some survivors do and juke the frenzy hit so i stun myself.
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853903#Comment_853903
You can eat the stun then activate the power also. You don't lose the power bar unless you get stunned during it.
Run enduring+nemesis get stunned instantly frenzy hop pallet hit and they're downed every time.
And if they pre pallet you just wasted 2 perk slots enduring and nemesis. Try again.
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@CrowFoxy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853911#Comment_853911
So you want Legion nerfed again..
Apparently because not like he wasnt the weakest killer already and now he lost dark devotion sloppy and stbfl and now he cant even have nemesis. Poor legions become the mercy of dbd.
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@krowzar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853867#Comment_853867
If the legion is running irredecent pin, it doesn't matter since you can mow down the pallet, you can also run beast of prey thanks to it's buff.
Beast of prey will probably get fixed and the addon is rare for a reason nemesis legion you can test it by stunning him once if ya want and from then on just loop him juke the swing or make sure you stun him in ff because by the time he gets the power back and catches up to you nemesis will run out.
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@Zoldyar said:
If you call that counterplays then slugging people with ds is also counterplay.
I do slug people with ds and wait for it to run out or if im doctor i have unnerving presense to make sure they fail the skillcheck.
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You mean the one effect that makes it worth it so itll be a wasted perk like every other perk that you can put on legion...
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@Maníaco_da_garrafa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853884#Comment_853884
Yes, BoP is a noob chase perk, it doesn't need stealth, maybe giving it a stronger BL movement speed in exchange of longer BL charge time would be better.
Like nemesis legion could be like a neich killer that you may see every once in a while. Because theres other killers that have their own ways to deal with you so he might not be that common. I think they should fix bop then bring nemisis legion to live and see how things go and if its horrible then fix it from there.
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Yeah so fix bop instead of dragging nemesis down with it . Nemesis legion by himself isnt bad because you can pre pallet or test it by throwing down 1 pallet and if he doesnt have the perk you just play the normal way. They already nerfed him and removed his dark devotion sloppy and stbfl synergy so nerfing him more will just basically make him useless there will be nothing for him to do against a good team pre nerf with the current perks on live he cant do anything really.
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Theres no problem with nemesis legion its bop and if theyre really thinking about removing that with the nerfs he just got losing dark devotion and stbfl im not even gonna play legion anymore because itll just be impossible.
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@Dreamnomad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853802#Comment_853802
It's not as simple as that and you know it.
It actually is that simple if your worried about legion having it dont stun him throw down the pallets early and its basically the same game because legion wouldnt eat stuns before because he could leap over them. By looking at the way the legions playing (or falling for it once) then begins counterplay. Whats really bad is beast of prey because all i have to do is follow you and then eventually youll bleed out.
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If were going by ptb i saw a guy play oni and the survivors just ran up to him so hed kill them the problem with testing stuff in the ptb is one side might not be trying (mostly survivors)
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@Auron471 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/851287#Comment_851287
Legion will become the new pig, where they get nerfed every patch
Mercy:welcome to my world i have the same problem in my game it never gets better trust me.
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I wish i could #####slap survivors out of the way as the killer and put the survivor on the hook.
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@bendermac said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/853366#Comment_853366
People keep healing themself, even when I stand right next to them. Empathy is purely to track wounded players so I can help them. But nooooo "Go away, I heal myself, My points"
That i cant really speak for i let other survivors heal me if they come up to me.
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You needed 4 chan for that? Anyway he just came out so im sure thatll be fixed just give them some time. Thats why the forums are here.
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You do realize sometimes this game feels like a FFA then a team game with some survivors act. I use self care because then at least i know im getting healed besides how do i know if you have empathy.
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Basically this turns it into a guessing game which is kinda cool because its like "do i risk the pallet or just throw it down and play it safe". It gives something for survivors to be afraid of. And RIP dark devotion we had a lot of good times together.
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Nemesis has counterplay though so the forums ive seen at least are pretty indiferent about it. Its more about bop because oh im just gonna follow you then smack you then follow you again till you bleed out. I hope they keep nemesis because its basically dark devotion legion. Legion lost a lot he cant use sloppy dark devotion and stbfl give him this at least.
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Spirit with prayer beads nothing is more terrifying then looking around wondering who the killer is then BAM picked up off generator because at least michael i constantly look around.
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@OMagic_ManO said:
SWF for me are either super cocky altruistic kids or complete jokesters, sandbag, flashlight dancing, etc.
Then when you kill them all with a mori they are like. "Oh you had to use a mori you suck GG EZ noob killer". Mhm yet i hooked all of you twice then morid you.
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Im actually one of the people that goes for the save depends on the killer though for leatherface i go down and start the unhook then when he revs to go for the swing ill sprint burst run and hell most likely hit the hook and stun himself then i save the guy with bt and leave. Then of course i see the leatherface chasing the guy i just clutch saved instead of me and sigh. (This also works with deadhard but is more risky). And sometimes if its like the guys that close to dead ill do it and purposely stay in place so the leatherface hits me and hooks me because i just gave the other survivors time to do gens and saved that guys life.
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@Nobsyde said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/852844#Comment_852844
you can't forget about Legion, they exist - and as I said I'd rather prefer have a perk (Nemesis) that can work with an underwhelming killer instead of forcing Devs to nerf even more Legion, for example by forcing mending timer to stop in close proximity of them, no matter the TR.
Also the name of the topic is Forcing Legion Power to work, it's a bit too late to forget about it :P.
Especially when they killed dark devotion which was one of the one ways i scared survivor with legion. Legion lost stbfl sloppy and dark devotion. And he gains nemesis seems fair.
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Thats the thing people will now be afraid of legion because if they keep nemesis as is you never want to stun him with the pallet. Every killer should strike fear and sadly legion doesnt because of how his power works. So itll be guess work whether a legion is running it or not.
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Nemesis is fairer then bop just throw down the pallet early bop you cant do anything really.