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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2516650#Comment_2516650
You really think I don't play killer because I think two hooking survivors would be broken?
You are the epitome of a biased killer main on this forum.
If survivors take 2,5 mins to repair all 5 gens, then the killer they went against was afk.
Everytime you hook a survivor, the survivor team gets an additional objective to complete, unhooking the survivor that was just unhooked. Survivors also don't teleport from one generator to the next.
Applying map pressure is also a thing, believe it or not.
And I am a killer main. That doesn't mean I want the game to completely broken for killers. I can get one early hook with a strong killer when I don't completely suck, then I tunnel that survivor off the hook, and the game is over. Great. I bet survivors will enjoy that a lot.
And if a killer hook a survivor clearly the survivor is afk, how about you play me in a custom if you think killer is ez mode
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@Apexgnifrums said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2518482#Comment_2518482
Deal, I accept that challenge. Send me your steam name and we make it happen. I will record and upload
I don’t play on pc, I play on console my gamertag is Das Wilde
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All I hear is survivor are babies and we should nerf killer because my pet monkey was able to 4K as perkless clown with no addons. People really bragging about stomping potato to prove that killer is op. If anyone really want to prove something play me in a custom, I prove to you that survivor is easier than killer. You can even bring your most crutch build and I still win lol that’s how confident I am that survivor is op. Im always down for a custom match just let me know
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@Shooby said:
I think something along the lines of "Nerf Syndrome" needs to be coined. This goes for literally any video game. Something gets nerfed, gamers freak out, and proceed to stop using the nerfed item/perk/character. A short amount of time passes, and people realize the nerf's effectiveness was vastly blown out of proportion...
Same can be said about buff syndrome, something get buffed everyone freaks out and milk it till it get nerfed or unfun.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2517834#Comment_2517834
That's not how this works. Survivors are not in control of the killer, both sides now have information to remove guesses and God forbid the Spirit player now have to use their brain for pathing to hide their dust steps in foliage. A hard killer, be hard to play? Unheard of!
how can you hide dust when survivor mains run extra low settings graphics to remove grass and stuff and stretched res for free info, even if she somehow hide dust you still hear her coming with directional audio cue lol, that is not invisibility lol, spirit take more brain than survivors looking for dust and hearing a directional audio telling you to run while also running meta perks that also take no skill besides getting injured or hooked. Lol we should set up a custom game and see you can beat me with spirit.
survivor mains be like- snipers unfair, there’s a 50/50 chance I get instant killed, please nerf every game with snipers, fighting games are unfun, there’s a 50/50 chance I get 100-0 in one combo lol, pve games are unfun there’s a 50/50 chance a computer will avoid my damage and counter attack. Survivor main must hate real life with all the 50/50 chances rng. You know being born is rng lol. What I’m saying is survivor mains are hypocrites, now spirit has to guess and while the survivors actively see what is she doing the whole time lol
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2516699#Comment_2516699
She already can see survivors moving foliage and hear their directional sounds of pain so good news! It's equal!
Not equal, survivor are basically in control of the killer, you die to a spirit now you just garbage, just camp pallets and run, no more guessing just turn your brain off and win
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they just nerfed all addons to hear gens being repair louder and louder footsteps that get counter by iron will, can’t wait for killers to have no variety in play style, just look at trapper addon, he can’t pick up traps anymore. Who is going to run over the same trap twice? and you still got to go reset it lol
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@NomiNomad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2514843#Comment_2514843
Dude, I really don't care what you think. I'm too busy for petty videogame ######### at the moment, sorry.
Lol, survivor mains are all talk. I have a life too I don’t got over 1000 posts on this forum like you 😂
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@Torsti56 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2514834#Comment_2514834
Getting genrushed? Just prevent them doing gens, you acting like there is 5 gens done at the start of the trial, survivors actually have to go out and find a gen to escape. Meanwhile top 3 killers just hooks survivors in 20 seconds.
Get a grip man.
damn you’re super wrong, you can’t be so wrong in your life. Killer can’t multitask, he don’t have 3 other butt buddies to carry them, you get hooked in 20 seconds say a lot about how trash and whiny survivors are, meanwhile swf have no counters and is a free win with no skills
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@NomiNomad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2513972#Comment_2513972
"BuT sHe'S rUiNeD!!1! sUrViVoR mAiNs WiN aGaIn!!11!!"
It's already happening. I might actually play Spirit more now.
I wonder how @TheGannMan feels about these changes...
Come play spirit against my swf, I make you eat your words and some lol.
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@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2514818#Comment_2514818
Still waiting on a camping and tunneling nerf! And like killers haven’t had their way with certain changes (cough cough DS)?
lol ds is still op, you just not good. How can you counter ds at egc? Camping and tunneling? Just don’t get hooked, you acting like you spawn on the hook, killer actually have to go out his way to hook someone to camp. Meanwhile swf can end the game faster then 2 minutes without even trying lol.
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Show you that survivors just complain about things until they get nerfed, once you spoil a baby they will not stop crying till they get what they want. Might as well take away her invisibility since it makes no difference, meanwhile swf still have no counters lol, it’s all about the survivors money.
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make a swf only mode, or only put swf in kyf since people just wanna play with their friends right? Not pubstomping random noobs with their buddies. Game is more balanced around solo more than swf tbh. But that will never happen, survivors mains will get salty and ######### and you can’t loose milking their moms credit card with them $30 dollar new cosmetics they happen to sale almost every day.
what I’m saying is survivor mains is the main source of income, they will never balance the game even if literally no one play killer. They will secretly just add bots lol
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@miketheratguy said:
I find it funny how many people complain that "all survivors do is hold down a single button to run away". As opposed to killers, who have to press a single button to attack them.
I mean survivors have little skill too, billy chainsaw across the map while avoiding everything just for you to walk to the left or right to dodge his ability. What takes more skill? Landing a chainsaw sprint or slightly moving to the side?
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Honestly you cannot tell, survivors have 3rd person camera with 360 camera control, spine chill is just icing on the cake. People will just say don’t use your eyes but even if you don’t look survivors will still see you with there 3rd person pov trying to crabwalk to them lol. You better off just giving up if the survivors is immersed with spine chill because they will just run away soon as it light up lol
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seeing how survivor mains will still lose to no perks clown with no addons, I don’t think anything need nerf, survivor mains will just blame their teammates for losing lol, I play both sides as well survivor addons are strong asf too just look at keys lol
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He is just a m1 killer, I think he balanced and don’t need changes, addons are supposed to be addons not less-ons. I just think people just want easy games, might as well delete perks and addons and make a barebones mode for people who complain about little stuff like bbq and wraith
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@cworn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2426632#Comment_2426632
i'm sorry you felt personally targeted by this post.
Thanks for proving wraith is not op by not responding to my reasons of why wraith is not op
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506320#Comment_2506320
Tinkerer is fine, spine chill tell you when the killer is coming,
Thinking the stealth is the strong perk of Tinkerer lmao
Tinkerer don’t win games, it just don’t make games a easy 3 min gen rush lol and that’s only with 3 other perks to combo with. Tinkerer by itself is decent at best lol
No, by itself it's okay, it's when used in combination of regression perks on a high mobility killer to stomp solos and have substantially less effect vs SWF it becomes problematic and unhealthy game design. You shouldn't be punished that harshly just because your friends are busy.
:)
you should at least try to take advantage of every second when the killer is busy doing anything else, killer is a just a player they can’t really multitask especially juggling 3 other survivors.
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@Toxicboii said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506276#Comment_2506276
For starters, positioning yourself so you don't get seen is easier said than done. You have to know where they're coming from first. No amount of map knowledge that isn't an aura reading will make you 100% certain that the killer you face can give you a cue of some sort to make you move yourself to a spot where you can't be found and be certain of it. Premonition mitigates that need by some degree.
Second, Spine chill being good because "you will know what the only routes the killer can get you" is an argument that can just be used for regular play. They can come from all sorts of directions. It's not a one way, it's omni-directional, and you have to pick a hiding spot that would potentially make the killer miss you. But even knowing the spots and routes they can take to get to you will have spine chill do nothing. All you know is that they're coming to you. You don't know which direction they're coming from, Spine Chill or not.
And lastly, Premonition also bypasses undetectable. So that argument is pointless to make.
say can said about premonition, just the fact spine chill don’t have a cool down and also boost your speed in everything just makes it way better than premonition. Maybe if premonition don’t have a cool down it would be more op than spinechill but tbh I think survivors are to lazy to use their cameras and eyes so spinechill will still be meta
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506097#Comment_2506097
Ruin/Undying is a very strong combination, which is mitigated by the fact that the killer must go to the survivors to chase them away from the gens to get any regression, and the fact that it can be completely removed from the game.
Tinkerer takes away the first drawback. You do not need to play the game well to get a lot of value out of Ruin, and if you have a map like Saloon or Midwich you have a very easy time because of the totem spawns. With Tinkerer, the part of Ruin which needs you to use your brain is removed almost entirely, especially since you can have multple Tinkerer procs per gen.
Furthermore, the way to counter Tinkerer is to coordinate Tinkerer procs, yes? Now, attempt to do this in solo queue. You can't. You physically cannot because it requires you to coordinate anything, which in solo is already near impossible with the limited options you have.
Not to mention, Tinkerer when used with Pop over RuinDying is still an issue for the exact same reasons, except you need to be decent at chases to get a lot of value from it. Alternatively, you just play Spirit with Ruin, Undying, Tinkerer, and Pop. Or Blight.
Tinkerer is the problem child of the perk combo. Tinkerer needs the change, not the Ruin or the Undying. It is too overbearing on solo players and the only real counterplay is hoping the killer is bad, or playing in a SWF.
Tinkerer is fine, spine chill tell you when the killer is coming, you can’t expect solo queue be a 100% win rate for survivors. Maybe it’s a family that’s letting their kids play for the first time or a someone teaching their friend this game, you never know. And if your that worry about losing because you have no pro team, go find a swf. Tinkerer don’t win games, it just don’t make games a easy 3 min gen rush lol and that’s only with 3 other perks to combo with. Tinkerer by itself is decent at best lol
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spine chill is still better than premonition, even if you can’t pinpoint the killer exact location. if you position yourself and know the map your playing spine chill is way better because you will know what the only routes the killer can get you, also it counter undetectable which make most perks and killers really weak
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@BabyCameron10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2502880#Comment_2502880
He seems to be the only killer with wall hacks without a downside. You can technically say he does, since he can’t hit while cloaked, he has his uncloak speed boost to make up for it.
Myers and Pig have drastic downsides to their power to gain their wall hacks. Pig looses Reverse Bear Traps and Boxes. Making her power basically useless and Myers can get out of Tier 1 and is stuck with a lower movement speed.
I agree with OP, it’s needs a change.
but can wraith attack while undetectable like Myers and pig? Also if we talking free info with no downsides spinechill and swf is way more op than a free weak old m1 killer.
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addons are ok, wraith can’t hit while cloaked and have multiple sound and visual cues to know when he’s nearby, survivors got 3rd person pov with a 360• movable camera, but if you think wallhacks op we should just remove all wallhacks because it’s just not fair for anyone
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@latinfla4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2501714#Comment_2501714
What map was it? Sad when whispers needs to be used to stop games like this🤨
It was midwhich, I was afk until I heard crows coming from the next room and found a Meg crouching in the bathroom with crows on her head lol. Would whispers even work on a small map like midwhich?
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Over an hour, 5 bloody party streamers was on the line so survivors avoid gen and hide while I searched every corner. I already killed 2 survivors and 4 gens was left.
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Another please nerf tombstone Myers post lol, you just want to strip any fun for killers, tombstone already got multiple downsides if you actually played killer which I doubt. Instakill is not fair? Just hop in a locker and you won’t be instakilled. Tombstone is a meme, if it was truly unfair people would use it every game which I have never seen.
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@Myla said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2497854#Comment_2497854
I need some explanation on this.
Wraith have a lunge attack after stealth, pig got a dash attack during stealth, they both got op addons that are free kills. Only thing wraith got is speed.
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By that logic pig is s tier, she does all of wraith does but more.
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Because this game survivor sided, literally any other killer has a faster time downing than nemesis, people play killers for their unique powers not to m1 people to death, just look at billy, you can’t even use your power at almost every loop and are force to m1 just for them to leave the loop, it’s a shame having majority of killers are a one trick ponies that can easily beat by any survivor with a brain
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It would be nice to know you only lost because of the power of swf, but survivor mains don’t want this because they won’t be able manipulate the numbers on how strong and common swf is.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2491541#Comment_2491541
Again it's better to not cleanse totems than try to do all 5 of them lmfao.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ZKMOE8U9C03H/image.png
This totem I saw earlier in the game. Then guess what?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ACF413X12BJL/image.png
And surprise surprise
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/VDBVD95AJULA/image.png
It was the totem I'd seen and remembered but hadn't cleansed.
Now if I had cleansed it, it would've been a different totem we then would have had to find. But it wasn't because not doing bones is a better counter to noed than doing the bones.
Bunch of baby survivor main are always victims
Entirely depends on where you look. Twitter is more survivor sided in it's complaints, whilst the forums are definitely mostly killer sided in their complaining. Both sides complain about stupid things, and valid things.
I know this is a hard concept to come to terms with, but both sides have their problem children.
Why not run maps? They give you infinite range on all the totems with addons, only one person need a map and all the totems are gone. People act like noed is a automatic guaranteed a 4K, I don’t even use it but I know by time noed activate all survivors are at both exit gates teabagging
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Had a game as pig against a jake running no mither, every time I chase him he infinite dead hard across the map, I picked him up from a gen and couldn’t hook or drop him. This is why I turn off cross play on my Xbox
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Bunch of baby survivor main are always victims, you can’t win with them. They always try to compete for who the real victims are, they can’t even do bones lol, you can tell these are lazy survivor mains who just want to speed run every game
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Spine chill is definitely strong, way too strong, you can’t even stalk as Myers or ghostface lol, I usually blast music on my headphones and play with spinechill. I still can win lol
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@Gladonos said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2482651#Comment_2482651
Just like how Lucky Break is hilariously broken and makes killer unplayable?
Just like how stridor is HiLARioUSlY broken and make survivors unplayable 🤡
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crazy how almost all killer addons are trash, and survivor mains still want these “addon pass” and nerfing killer addons. And most killers addon have downsides bigger than upside (ex: Amanda secret) or the addon is really good it should be base kit instead of having to use it every game. (Ex: Chewed pen) they also have addons that literally don’t work just look at legion lol
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Spine chill, people who run this perk usually let their team die while they never been hooked. Just nerf the range or let undetectable counter it. But that never going happen. Even swfs I play against say spine chill is op lol
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Just watch otz nemesis streak, he got 3 fake hits in a row lol, you can’t even hug walls as killer anymore because how big the pallet hit box is as well. But what can do about this game on a outdated engine that make super man 64 look good lol
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Poor survivor mains, must be hard camping pallets and running every game, spine chill counter tinkerer, ruin and undying can be permanently deleted. Maybe if survivors can stop boosting as a swf they will actually be in matches their skill level
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2475900#Comment_2475900
The argument I'm seeing from you isn't
"All seeing is balanced"
It's
"But keys are unbalanced"
You're not arguing that the addon is balanced, you're arguing it shouldn't be touched because there are other unbalanced things on the other side which is completely missing the point of discussing something to begin with
you can’t pick and choose, either all wall hacks are fine or it’s not. Tbh I don’t mind deleting all wall hacks if it stop you survivors mains to stop cherry-picking what make killers unique and fun
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2475675#Comment_2475675
I don't mean to be rude, but we're talking about Wraith's all seeing addon in this thread. I don't appreciate the "what about x"
Please direct me to where I said keys and blood amber were okay and balanced (even though they run out and Wraith's all seeing is basically permanent but ok)
A more apt comparison would've been object of obsession, that let's you see the killer for potentially 3 seconds during a chase (In which the killer will also see you too)
But keys got map wide range and survivors can stack them compared to wraith all seeing which is only 12m. He does have a down side, he can’t attack when cloaked and is a m1 killer, just camp pallets especially they buffed pallet camping for survivors by giving killers fake hits. Spine chill and sprint burst are good against any killer, just run when the scared cat light up and camp a pallet or window. What can a m1 killer do against pallet camping and running? Why do y’all cherry pick killers so much? Where did they hurt you? Should we delete aura reading since “wall hacks are no fun for either sides”
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Dbd the only game with no crowd control reduction, there should be diminished returns to chain stunning.
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Depends on console where you can’t edit options like lower graphics , cosmetics can be be a advantage. You ever try to find a tap who hiding in the super dark corner of a class room in midwhich or a any small survivor crouching in huge dark bushes in the saloon map
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Yeah aura reading sucks and unreliable, I usually have to go out my way to get all my stacks, I mean like checking every part of the map just to find that last stack lol, even harder if survivors wear the same outfit.
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You probably the same person who use YouTube tutorial to beat a game, do you feel satisfied having everything handed to you? What’s the point of this?
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Killer should be fun and strong, but that’s never going to happen. Just look at wraith, a really simple killer with 1 simple power but survivor mains think he op and need nerfs. To please the survivors mains they going to keep making weaker killers like trickster and nemesis that take multiple hits to down with their power lol. Next killer is just going to repair gens for the survivor mains
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2468587#Comment_2468587
How are you not bankrupt?
Mom’s credit card
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Strong, then they should nerf if necessary. Like we already got trickster and nemesis that takes multiple hits to down with their power. What’s next? A killer that heals survivors and boost all their speed?
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Nahh they won’t fix swf, survivors mains will stop using their moms credit card to buy stupid expensive survivor cosmetics and good killers barely have any good skins tbh so why care about killer? Playing against a swf is like giving you little brother a broken controller and beating him in any type of game. People love power creep, which should be the killers job, but nope. Survivors want everything and some.