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As I unlock more perks and finally earn some freedom from the overall harsh grind of this game I do relax more when playing as survivor and killer as I can finally start to have some fun just messing around with perks and skills that seem like fun.
Many people have limited time so they farm the "good/great" perks. Stop there, play when they kind and are very very effective at what they are doing. This game doesn't allow for people that don't want to invest a thousand hours into a vareity of fun relaxing perks to just goof around with and don't mind when games go terrrible.
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@mystix042006 said:
Since cross play has happened I swear all players that have camped and tunnel are pc players and I’m a Xbox player so it’s super difficult to 360 and all that and it’s getting super annoying that I can’t disable cross platform so I can get rid of this issue
I’m not calling pc players bad it’s just do you seriously need to ruin a fun game for everyone by camping and tunnelling?
Both console and PC killers will tunnel/camp and you sometimes that is the correct choice for their chance to win. This is a game where 1 killer has to juggle and deal with 4 opponents. You will be slugged from time to time, you will be camped, you will be tunneled. These are part of the game.
If you cannot get over these details. You should move on. Killers have to deal with a LOT of crazy ######### survivors can do as well, and they that is part of the game. For every 1 thing you absolutely hate a killer does, there is an opposite thing you do that a killer 100% hates. This is the game. Trying to make someone else play differently because you don't like it will never resolve the issue.
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DS should not tigger after a survivor jumps into a locker. otherwise I think some of the hate for it is a bit overboard.
It make sense early game for some anti tunneling tactics, but late game is where it becomes really annoying in many scenarios and just ######### on killer perk.
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I have a couple friends that hate Madness level 1 cannot be removed. I know it has very little impact, but it is the only status effect that cannot be removed via any option and my friends will ######### the entire night because of this. (Mechanics with no counter play ruins their fun in ANY game)
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@kreeper124 said:
I don't see a point in prestiging really. It does nothing other than give bloody clothes, that I don't even wear on my main. At this point it's just a challenge for people to say that they got 3rd prestige on a character
Prestige is all those that can't stop grinding a game that all it wants to do is force you to grind for rewards that other games would let you start with.
If you are a normal person and won't put in over 1,000 hours into any one video game it is a waste of your time
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@fixdeadhard said:
Game was heavy survivor sided at the start + killer was unfun to play.
Next, lots of survivor nerfs happen and killer buffs. game becomes somewhat balanced with still tons of crutches on both sides ( e.g. OP instaheals, Moris) and unpolished gameplay.
Next, mostly survivor nerfs keep happening while killers are being reworked/buffed + new released killers dont even need perks anymore as they can ignore pallets (deathslinger, pyramid head).
Which brings us to the current state:
-solo survivor unplayable
-Kill/escape ratio shows to be heavy killer sided (even with taking the stats with buckets of salt)
-crossplay games are boring for both sides: console killer= ez survivor win. Console survivors= ez killer win.
-survivor gameplay in general became unfun, Killer gameplay IS STILL frustrating and unfun to play for most people. Matches where 2 survivors escape feels like a loss for killer (as well as some matches with only 1 survivor escaping). Meanwhile SWF is still being targeted to be broken because those games feel frustrating as killer (its still easy to get a draw as killer but it feels like a loss).
-Devs are still reworking weak killers while the kill ratio is already +50% for every single killer.
so summary of the summary: start: survivors OP and fun while killers are weak and unfun/frustrating
now: survivors weak and unfun while killers are strong and unfun/frustrating
future: looking how devs are responding to everything it seems like even more bad news for survivor creating an even more unbalanced gameplay experience for survivors.
As this post is mostly saying that the game is killer sided , it would be interesting to see if killer mains agree/can admit the current unbalanced state of the game (taking into acount that killer gameplay is most of the time unfun/frustrating). I think the biggest flaw with the community AND THE DEVS, is the lack of making the distinction between balance and gameplay experience.
The now is still wrong. the killers still are weak and survivors still dominates. That has never changed. If people solo queue and dont' work together, then the killer can have an ok game, but if survivors try/work together, killer will lose 9 out of 10 times.
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This is one of those scenarios where the OP is mocking a subset of annoying posts, but coming off more annoying then those other posts.
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@sudintlink said:
Tie.
Most survivors only consider it a win if they escape themselves but for killer vs survivor purposes I would say tie
Most SWF won't be happy unless all 4 gets out.
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@Zagrid said:
Why?
What was good enough to make you spend the money on it. And if you are willing how much have you spent on cosmetics in total?
I'm curious because it seems that BHVR keeps adding more and more cosmetics but I have only bought 1 and have gotten 1 battle pass in the past.
I have a lot of disposable income and spend an absurd amount of money on some games I play. I have only given this game $20 in cosmetics, but some game has gotten Hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.
People like me with a lot of extra money (or people without extra money but blow it anyway) on games are the real problem. I do slow down on games when they don't interest as me as much. I just don't find that many cosmetics in this game worth it, but some games hit the jackpot with me.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1754018#Comment_1754018
Nobody ever quits this game for good, they all come back eventually.
That probably isn't true. I have quit dozens of online games never to return. this game is fun, but not so magically a person wont' come back. Sometimes people come back and find that element that got them excited at first, or the gave remains super crappy to them.
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It is indeed a game. Some people have fun trying. some people like to make fun of people that try. Some people make fun of people because of many reasons.
People in general are the worst part of this game. We remove them from the game, it becomes more enjoyable
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@Axe said:
Every online community has its toxic side my guy. You wont find a better one, maybe something thats SLIGHTLY less toxic but thats about it
Having played a good amount of games online. Every community for sure has issues, but this community I would easily put as Top 3 most toxic game communities by far.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751150#Comment_1751150
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1751155#Comment_1751155
WHY DOES IT MATTER WHY I WANT IT OFF?
I should be able to turn it off, for one, on Series X and I shouldn't be penalized for having it off normally with longer wait times. It should prioritize your own platform first and only crossplay if it needs to.
The fact so many of ignore what my actual complaint is and instead focus on "why you no crossplay?" instead is why I turn off crossplay.
The reason we ask is because it is sooo weird. It is like a mind tick just burrowing into our brain hearing this crazy statement.
If you said you only eat only toast with a duck in a room while watching Season 3 of Friends, while dressed in only blue clothe, it would be equally as odd. calling out ps4 AND pc players togher is too bizarre. I will die confused on this topic. I will be haunted forever.
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There are so many games I'm going in, just trying to do whatever as killer, then some survivor goes off and T-Bags for some random reason. LIke when they stun me with a pallent and then spend 1/2 the time I'm recovering T-Bag. I'm like. You do understand you should be getting some distance, so then I do tunnel them and make sure they are the first to die. I'll let everyone else go, but these people will not be allowed out.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1750983#Comment_1750983
I just don't want to play with PC or PS players. If I told you why I'd probably get banned from the forum TBH.
Maybe I will cross play as killer now with 60 FPS, but hell no am I going to play survivor with survivors on other platforms.
The fact you don't want to play against PC players is one thing, but also not PS4/5 players? (that part is extra friggn weird, as console players all have controllers and are on same page) The reason is so terrible you would get banned. Literally the weirdest thing I've read this week.
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If you lack motivation, find something else to do. There are plenty of other great games to play if you are not enjoying it.
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As others have said, its 5 minutes. I have DC'ed a couple times, when being trolled really badly. I'll be so annoyed for a few minutes anyway, but these trolls I need a moment to relax. This game gets too full of people like that, then there is a different problem.
A person has to DC a LOT to really get a meaniful delay between games.
It is absurd how common DC's occur when the penalty is turned off.
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The answer is yes. he is a fun killer, that has plenty of counter. The fact about 7 people on these forums lose their ######### over the Deathslinger is hilarious. There are so many more challenging/difficult killers to face. The Gunsligher is not one of them, nor is he hard to deal with.
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The last thing we need is this game any hard to see with may ways to for many characters to become 99% invisible directly in front of the killer.
It does amaze me after 4 years there is not another alternate game mode, or more elements to this game. its like the developers came up with 1 idea and just stopped worrying about any other possible ways the game could be played.
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@Kebek said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1742843#Comment_1742843
Yeah ormond is not what I'm complaining about. Badham, yamaoka, new autoheavens etc are.
of course they use a map actually has light on it as a counter point because you can't have an issue without someone being that way.
Many of us find maps too dark. as I said, my solution was to find a 3rd party app that was white listed by the Anti cheat software, but it is lame that I have to go that route.
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The simple truth is early game. the survivors have only 1 mission. Restart Gens.
So many people here have said "if you still chasing when a couple gens are done, it is your fault" which is just as helpless of a statement. What else is the killer suppose to do? Depending on where the killer starts and finds the first person, often times 2 or 3 other gens are being worked on.
Only real option is to "waste" 2 to 3 Perk slots on things that slow down Gens, which does work, but repetitive and boring.
If I play a game and use a lot of good anti-gen perks. I get taunted in end game with "you only did good because of X perks" I use perks I enjoy (chase perks) then game ends fast because gens get done fast and I get "you suck haha" messages at end of the game.
Honestly I love the chase part of the game. I don't even mind if the players finish all 5 gens and a couple get away. (I often don't kick/hit a gen, until they are down to 2) If I have some fun with chase perks and hunt a few players down enjoyed the game, but of course I'll still get yelled at/taunted at the end of game. I wish the "chase" part of the game could last longer without losing all the gens so fast, but if they slow down gens, they would have to tweak a lot of perks.
Just give me a game mood, where there are no chance and its hide/seek and players get a bunch of points for just surviving, accomplishing other goals.. Like Last 10 Minutes in X map and have some other random game element going on.
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Remember, if the killer win they are was toxic. They used rude perks, or tunneled, or camped or slugged, or hit a survivor.
If the survivors wins, all behavior is ok. It is ok to BM the Killer because Killers are crap and only losers play them.
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being tunneled feels like crap.
I try to ask myself. Why was I tunneled?
--- It is often because another survivor unhooks at a very unsafe moment and the gives the killer a free down. (or the survivor who does the unhook does something to lose visual with with killer faster, so killer just takes the route they see) -
----I seem to be tunneled a lot more when wear bloody claudette skin when when I don't (so some killers are like Screw that impossible to see survivor and if they get lucky early they won't give the invisible clauddette a second chance to get away and then be unseen until the end.
--- Mid to late game tunneling/slugging just may be the only chance the killer has to do anything.
The random start near killer and get unlucky to cross path right away thenget hooked, and get tunneled will never feel good, but getting taken out is what happens to survivors time to time. It is one of those things that angers me the most, but I really try hard to get over it. The worst case scenario? I lose a pip. What does that pip do for me in reality? Nothing but effect my ego and why the ######### am I caring that much about a PIP.
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seeing survivors complain about a mid tier killer will always be hilarious... Man I hate that guy I just stomped into the ground. he is not cool. He was so easy to beat I hate him.
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It is not an unpopular opinion. it is common information. this game is based around survivor dunking on the killer (at least at moderate to higher ranks)
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survivors are all the same because there is nothing unique about them. they are simple grind obstacles to slow down a player getting all the perks. Thinking of them in a negative way because of a default perk is something a person shouldn't wait time/energy on.
play the survivor you like the look of. If you don't like a skill don't use it.
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There are multiple 3rd party apps that are white listed by the anti cheat system to help make the game brighter. It is really lame, many of us that can't see well have to resort to use them, but I would like to play the game, and the pitch dark default mode of this game might be cool for you young kids that can see, but I'm old and broken, but still want to enjoy games.
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The should have contacted your personally before the game started to find out what was going to be acceptable in the game they were about to play with you. How dare they play the way they want. There could be a million reasons why they did this, but they did the worst thing. They didn't find out what you wanted first. I am so mad at them for you
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1738478#Comment_1738478
Because I’m not promoting it. I’m simply admitting that I did it. It was wrong that I did it, but I’m also not prepared to put up with horrible, bullying behaviour either.
Survivors that bully other survivors someday will die. I try to focus on that fact to relax.
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The only time I get hard tunneled hard, is when another random survivor unhooks me without borrowed time in front of the killer, and the killer chooses me instead of the other person. Then I get hooked right away, and another survivor unhooks me a second later without borrowed time, so i get off the hook and die right away.
These are moments that make me think very unpure thoughts.
honestly I find that I get tunneled maybe 1 out of 20 games so I don't run DS. I really really hate that 1 in 20 game, but it is not common for me.
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I'm impressed with anyone that can focus on 1 game so much to get ranks.
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The matchmaking is the worst and it hates you. People will say ranks don't matter (but anyone that is newer/been around for a couple months can tell the difference between a Red rank player and green player very clearly in game) There are a lot of annoying scenarios, where I wish you would not lose a pip, but I doubt it will happen. Leveling/deleveling don't really matter other then ego/morale reasons (which is a valid reason). the company doesn't really care about bad matchmaking or if it upsets people or not.
I've been hoovering around Rank 2, and i'm having less fun as its my first time this high. I care more about ranking up now then normal as I want to hit 1, for the achievement, but I know it doesn't matter, but it still bugs me when I get hard tunneled and get deranked.
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there are a few add-ons that enhance brightness that are white listed by anti-chat program
This game IS too dark, and some of us are old and can barely see in the real world. I don't want to miss NPC wearing bright piink because how dam dark this game is.
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@KrazyKatFTW said:
Franklins is a ######### perk, if a killers uses franklins I will take it as an indicator of how they intend to play the game and get out asap, I don't want to play with players like you
I only want to face you and use that perk every game.
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I do agree that gates should regress automatically as well (liked a kick gen)l. The two perks that trigger when gates are open, and someone is hooked are completely denied by this strategy, and those perks are already trash/not used.
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very few people don't want Jason. Lawsuits make it difficult. It is really that simple
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As many has said, the way to enjoy this game is play in a way that you enjoy. No matter what you will do, it will annoy someone, so just ignore anyone that says you are doing something wrong, because your not.
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@MikaKim said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1729995#Comment_1729995
HAHAHAHAHAHA
As in the survivors started it, like somehow its automatically that way and not just the nature of the game.
You even got a couple upvotes for that low hanging fruit.
The echo room of this forum never manages to surprise me.
I wasn't trying to imply this was something started by survivors, just that it is an endless loop. I wasn't trying to be profound. Some of you were riled up by that comment, which is interesting.
The simply truth is toxic behavior spreads and gets the other side to often respond in similar toxic ways. this is not a revolutionary statement.
Online gaming communities always suffer by this, and this games community really takes it up a notch.
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@MikaKim said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1729995#Comment_1729995
HAHAHAHAHAHA
As in the survivors started it, like somehow its automatically that way and not just the nature of the game.
You even got a couple upvotes for that low hanging fruit.
The echo room of this forum never manages to surprise me.
I wasn't trying to imply the survivors started it. Just that is is never ending loop, Which it is. That comment did rile a couple of you up for hitting a little to close to home it seems. Toxic attitude causes more toxic attitude. it is a very simple and truthful reality. I wasn't trolling or trying to be profound. It is a core problem with online communities and for some reason this game more then others.
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I would agree. this perk is too weak and need some buffs.
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Because it has always been bad and you cannot have nice things. It was the first thing I was amazed at in this game when I first started and then realized this has been a constant completely forever. How this company can't do better matchmaking is almost unbelievable. it is either an surprising amount incompetence or something the really don't' care about a feature.
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It is amazing how every day we see so many examples of this. The matchmaking in this game beyond broken. Every Single Day.
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It is by far the most common perk I see used by survivors. 7 out of 10 times, it is very very easy to spot when someone will use it and as the killer, you can just alter you play to negate the extra boost it gives. The other 3 out of 10 times, it does let them get away, but I see it fail a LOT more then I see it succeed.
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@MikaKim said:
It's really just par the course at this stage.
Due to a lack of push back we now have an entire entitled class of killers whose toxicity is encouraged at this point.
When you get toxic survivors you create toxic killers. With toxic killers you then create toxic survivors. It is a really fun never ending loop.
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Basement bubba works well against 4 Randoms. but against SWF, he gets 1 kill and loses.
Both survivors and killers have very toxic ways to play the game. this is a top 5 toxic killer move. Sometime it happens because killer is bored, or often times, their last game, the survivors were toxic to him, so he is just paying it forward.
I feel like 75% of the toxic play we see if just a long chain of people having bad games and passing it on. I even see streamers with title Of "toxic play" to try to build a specific crowd that loves that stuff. It is the one thing pushing me away form this game faster then anything else.
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DS triggering within a locker is annoying.
This skill is very helpful to deal with tunneling, but I hate when its abused by when the survivor runs into locker. Of course I get annoyed, when I let the person that is taken off the hook go, chase the other player, but run into the other survivor 50 seconds later who just jumps in front of me and I knock them down and get the DS strike on me, even though I in no way was trying to hit them again.
DS in the end game after 5 gens are done is also annoying as, the killer already has not much time to try to accomplish anything.
I still feel it is a important skill for the tunneling, but people abuse it soo hard it bugs me.
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I rarely go to gates. I don't need to see the twerking and the BM'ing. I just wish people would leave (once they know all their survivors are safe) instead of just wasting all of our time
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That game was great the first 2 months before it fell apart so hard and fast. I wish the lawsuits would get cleared up to free the option to add Jason to other games
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I've seen many games where 1 survivor DC in first minute, and it just naturally turns into a farming game for everyone else that is still there.
I'm still new enough I need millions of BP due to the grind and have no problems farming.
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I love one side complaining about specific perks of the other, while not having issues with any perks they have.