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@Rogue11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819740#Comment_3819740
I love seeing this argument when if it's used in any other context around the game you'll be told "lol DBD isn't a horror game after the first 4 hours".
Stealth play being nonexistent, maps being overly bright, atmospheric lighting gone, fog gone, goofy cosmetics being added. For all these things the game isn't "horror", but when it comes to the core balance of the game suddenly "muh horror experience" matters over everything else.
As if a team watching Blight tunnel someone out at 4 gens on a reworked map with 3 pallets to secure their 401st win in a row thinks to themselves "wow this is such an immersive horror simulation!".
I'm ready for the next pvp star wars game where the devs make the good guys team win because that's what happens in the movies.
Good guys also win in horror shows because some actually dont run, they whop their predators ass and get justice for their fallen friends and families. Heck as another person suggest in a topic I would love a finisher as survivor
4s means survivors should be able to tag team the killer as a finisher like knights mori or the entity should kill the killer for failing their mission like how leaders of villians do in other games, animes and rl movies punish the one failing their misson.
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@Seraphor said:
There shouldn't be one go-to meta perk that invalidates an entire host of perks on the other side. And if Distortion being nerfed is THAT big of a deal, then that's what's going on. If you're so hard done by this nerf, you were too reliant on Distortion.
This is why Haemorrhage and Mangled were nerfed, so that Sloppy Butcher didn't just completely delete healing builds.
There are other great aura-countering perks:
- Off The Record is 90 solid seconds of stealth when you're at your most vulnerable.
- Shadow Step grants the whole team stealth in a given area.
- Object of Obsession turns aura reading against the killer.
- Sole Survivor gives you permanent stealth towards end game.
But why bother with any of these when Distortion recharges so quickly and effortlessly and counters any aura reading regardless of circumstance.
I'm hoping we get more situational aura blocking perks too, to give us more options in different scenarios. But one single perk shouldn't be able to do it all, especially when aura reading is only an "issue" when killers bring multiple aura perks, and you're countering their entire build with one perk.
I think I explain already why those perks are a waste of time but I agree with OOO there is something I like to confirm though when your the obesssion the killer see you as well for every 3 second on 30 second cool down what i want to know if when your lucky and is not the obesssion.
I see the perk still work which reveal killer aura if they have any aura read stuff l but do they still see yours too if your not the obession? If not then that is godly op and more op than distortion and then may be on the next list of nerfs if people caught on and all do this lol. Even so though issue with OOO is giving stealth killers and huntress big advantages.
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@VantaNite said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819747#Comment_3819747
Nobody denies off the record is one of the strongest perks. But it sure ain't strong because of its ability to hide aura. 90 percent of the time it's aura effect won't even make a difference. If you're getting tunneled, the killer already knows where you are. If you're not then you're already getting healed safely so aura hiding isn't doing anything.
Exactly this ^^
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@Feneroe said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819803#Comment_3819803
Stake Out does something completely different from Distortion, that's why it's okay.
It still involves hiding in the killer terror radius and with hyper focus lets gens be done fast which killers complains about. So its barely different.
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@Shinkiro said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819416#Comment_3819416
No, the passive refilling by simply being in the terror radius was what was wrong with it in the first place, combined with too many tokens. It's a far too powerful effect to simply regain it passively, you should have to earn it. If killer perks have to be conditional then so can survivors be.
Stake out does this same thing so why is stake out ok?
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Didnt mean to double post weird glitch.
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@Ryan489x said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815843#Comment_3815843
the rats still exist without distortion I had a bill in a game tonight who did nothing the entire time and waited until I’d killed everyone and then tried for hatch. He was cocky running no mither too. Let’s just say he didn’t make it
Tell me that your right with telling me that your correct. cause yeah me that did a 13 hour stream yesterday of 200 matches 190 of them all with no distortion a rat or two or three doing nothing while am having a 2 to 5 min chase or they opening chests or doing totems.🤭
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@Autharia said:
Cause people forget Lightborn is a thing that hard counters Flash bangs, fire crackers, Blast mines, and flash lights and gives aura to killer of that survivor. it also limits wglf cause you lose the light save hassle of hooking.
Funny thing is I see it alot in my games, the lobby will even have 0 flashlights and killer still has basekit lightborn equipped and am like in my mind yay flashbang saves only to be light up with OOO that they have it lol.
Funny when people say flashbang take no skill but lightborn literally is the same concept of no skilled lol. Blast mine has a stun though interestingly so lightborn dont counter it strangely flashbang in re games by right has stun and blind and am not sure why it doesnt on dbd.
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End game chat filter makes no sense, for one this game is M rated. Also trickster literally swears like hell in the game itself lol. Can simply give a filter option to block bad words if some players do not want to see them.
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@SuspiciousBrownie said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819553#Comment_3819553
Immediately dismissing Off The Record even though it’s literally one of the best survivor perks in the game tells me all I need to know lmao.😂
Well yeah whats the use of the perk if you have not been caught and hook? You cant seriously tell me that you have not been a in a match where you have not gotten a value of certain perks. Conspicuous Actions being added to it ruined it.
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@Ilikechips said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819729#Comment_3819729
I thought bots were added to give the killers their 4Ks.
Dcs used to drop the players body on the floor so people would dc to deny an ebony mori, slug for the 4k etc. Dcing used to deny the points and satisfaction from the killer. There used to be tonnes of posts about it and then bots were added.
They simultaneously added bots so both sides wouldn't be disadvantaged while allowing survivors to hook suicide denying a bot to take its place. Amazing thought process lol. This also explains why I said they were added for killers benefit and not survivors.
Exactly like being slugged on the floor as the third person to look for fourth and no point in dc because they get a bot now.
I much rather give the last person an oppertunity to get a shot at hatch its pathetic and I personally wants bots gone. Bots are just free bp and adepts for killer
A 3 v 1 is hard but not impossible yesterday a laurie vote leries and kamikaze on her first hook vs a plague leaving me and 2 swfs and we got 4 out 5 gens done and one survive via hatch.
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@VantaNite said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819554#Comment_3819554
That's just not true though. Killers are not just mindless robots. Once a game reaches a certain point, chasing a survivor that hasn't been hooked and trying to get 1 hook on each survivor just isnt worth it. Even in games where nobody runs distortion you'll almost always have one guy that has less hooks then the rest because unless the killer has the advantage already, its not worth spreading your hooks out between all 4 players.
Your argument's really just an excuse to explain why killers dont hook all 4 survivors equally, which even in a perfect world they would never do.
Touch down brother because even with no distortion teams I see tunneling, even the so call bbq chili that is claim to be healthy they use it to tunnel along with anything that reveals aura example a killer chasing a person but see someone with nurses healing (when they just got off the hook)what do they do, down them again) and hook them. Common thing with pyramid heads or very same bbq and chill I see people beeline right back to the person who just got off hook and down them again after they catch someone else.
There aint no such thing as soft tunneling or hard tunneling, tunneling is tunneling period( I know its not you that said it). Finally yes your point is on spot even 0 distortion team always seem to have that one person with 0 hooks hiding and never doing anything. I had this experience in like 190 out of 200 matches from a 13 hour stream lol. Killers will always claim tunneling is cause of distortion/gen slow down nerf when they always been tunneling when gen regression pandemic was happening its so old and silly hearing the same thing over and over 😑
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@doobiedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3819508#Comment_3819508
Killer mains always say the game is the most balanced it has ever been. Explain how 60% kill rate to 40% escape rate is balanced please.
Because they getting handhold for soon to be 3 years now ofc its balance in their rule books for survivors.
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@SuspiciousBrownie said:
- Off The Record
- Sole Survivor
- Shadow Step
- Distortion
- Lockers
All of these hide you’re aura.
Object of Obsession tells you exactly what aura perks the killer has an infinite amount of times. And can only be countered by stealth killers.
You have multiple options, pick one. I like OTR because it’s 80 seconds of endurance AND aura denial AND Iron Will. Literally a catch all perk
off the record=useless because you got to be hook and if your not its no value period
sole survivor=encouraging your team to get killed off(far worst than distortion)
shadow step=yes waste 1min+ looking for a totem + then wasting another 15 seconds or so blessing it only for killer to instant snuff it with its itsy bitsy worthless 24 meter giving.
Distortion= Am not even going reply on this one
Lockers= ok it works against bbq, but it wont work on the 70+ aura reading add on or perks, am I to go all the way north from my gen to south in a locker to dodge NTH.'
Object= Yes I love to make it easier for a stealth killer like ghosty to easily can stack and then whack me with no warning.
So all these perks you list are actually rubbish.
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Did about 200 matches today (13 hour stream) and the amount of people that was hiding was just beyond unbelievable and if they not hiding for some reason they doing chests/totems no gens or if am being chase for a hot 2 to 5 mins(still no gens being done) yeah distortion was the only reasons rat exists indeed(sarcastic). Yeah in all those 200 matches 0 distortion.
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Amma keep it real simple, 6.1 to this recent patch is the reason. Pretty positive people know what those reasons are. Also for the love of god please stop thinking its only solo que who is suffering, casual swfs also is suffering, one of them major thing is as example use to have 50+ friends to always swf up with but being down to 2 to 0 because everyone has moved on to other games, I tell you if I was not such a sucker for glams and things in these rifts pass I would be long gone. The riff pass keep holding me back.
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@Emeal said:
would you prefer full gen regression build?
I do because if a killer is bad at catching loopers and sadly worst if all 4 survivors know how to loop the gen perks cant do anything at that point, I know this cause sometimes I do get those crack teams who can loop and my 4 gen perks become 0 value, but as a put on weaves + franklins am getting downs easily, specially cause they get greedy and wanna go pick up the item to not lose its charges. Besides tool boxes I admit are still busted and survivors have so much gen rush perks, hey you dont even need gen perks either, if two survivors go on a gen together that still makes them fast. Yes gimmie the gen slow downs, it also means more bp gain the longer gens are being worked on sad that some survivors wierdly do complain about 4 gen slow down.
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@HexAvadaKedavra said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3818609#Comment_3818609
And I'm saying them spamming aura reading perks is better and healthier than them spamming gen perks. You should be happy. Also aura reading doesn't just auto equal free downs.
Seems you never gotten a billy with lethal before then, they will have you beg to differ..
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I have not seen in my matches and i did like 100 of them today but overall no leave it alone, you guys took away distortion from us let us have a chance to enjoy the perk (even though am not interested in it). it only gives endurance to the person down(not the user) and its even on 30 seconds cool down if anything this version sounds worst than the previous one.
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@Bookern said:
we badly need that Mori shop
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3817978#Comment_3817978
tcm also been giving all family members different kill stuff… I havent played it like forever though but I see on psn store they have a kill pack 1 2 and 3.
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@Bookern said:
we badly need that Mori shop
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3817978#Comment_3817978
tcm also been giving all family members different kill stuff… I havent played it like forever though but I see on psn store they have a kill pack 1 2 and 3.
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If killer is so bad why is it that survivor bp incentive is given like 95% of of time? Why when I want to play killer specially early mornings i be waiting 2 to 5mins while survivor is a few seconds?
Also I wish people stop saying swf is never affected by things cause we do. Imagine use to having 30 friends to swf up with but down to 3 to even 0, cause people grow tired and move on to other games which is my case of me losing so much friends for past 2 years now starting at patch 6.1 to today date.
Finally there is so much survivor giving up posts and never killer giving up post indicates to me that killers are having it far easier. The game need both sides to work cause no survivors also means no game for killers.
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@sanees said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3817933#Comment_3817933
maybe because it's just a fun animation for the ending of the game?and bs ub for survivors is a completely broken and easily abused mechanic?
Seeing the same animaton actually becomes stale eventually. Its not like MK where every character has about 4 kinds to mix it up.
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Am always getting underserved hits fine as either side in fact even more, even if a survivor medium and was 2 inches from window already on the opposite side, it still counted as a hit and this has been since they fix female survivors smaller vaults compared to males and now fast vaults are trash for another 10 years.
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Really baffles me how something we said no to something but it comes back and ofc for the killer its this finisher but survivors cant get base ub.
I thought the ebony and green moris only going to be extra blood points only if you kill the last survivor with them but no you can also bring them to kill others.
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@ErebusSurge said:
we all know killer mains will collectively jizz themselves over distortion nerfs. But the second you take away lethal pursuer, BBQ and chili etc they would be up in arms about having to actually work to find people.
It’s the same old story, defend things that benefit you, kick off when they don’t.
The right answer is to have both or neither.
If you want lethal, we get distortion back, if you don’t want distortion, let’s remove the 3 aura reading perks sat in the top 6 most used list and see how happy you are then.
Whilst we are at it let’s remove no terror radius, oh and no teleporting, and match survivor speed no boosts. Let’s see how happy you are when you are in the survivors position but as killer..
you’d be screaming for speed boost and aura reading..
Or as another suĝgest keep only kindred and bbq cause i mean the whole come back from killers oh you want us to run 4 gen slow down is abit stale too, thing with gen regress is while annoying yes its does nothing IF all survivors know how to loop and I admit we do have alot of ways to hammer out gens anyways, survivors who complain on 4 slow down i find weird tbh. I feel am more losing matches that contains 3 to 4 aura builds than 4 slow down. M
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@Grimlet09 said:
y are killers not alloud to run anything for gens or aura bc thats all i hear ppl mad about???? what r killers alloud to run now?
i dont have issues im fine i can hide perfectly well. maybe u just bad at hiding??????
maybe its time to admit it not meant for surviors to win evry chase or loop for five gens. maby its time to be ok with killers chasing u a lot, i thot we all want chase more??????
It occur to me that this seem to be only two things killers run but complain on survivors running only meta.
Even some killers you always expect the same perk set up here is a few
Artist= always pain res and deadman
Pyramid head = am all ears nurses
Huntress = lethal bbq iron maiden and a random perk
Myers= corropt
I tried an all expose build as wesker the other day and was getting quiet alot of value with 1 hits dragon grip make your choice starstruck and floods on midwitch.
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I let the entity mori me all the time being crushed liked a bag of is chips funny specially cause calm spirit muffles the initial scream. I wont ever give these killers any satisfication of their mori unless its wesker or trickster.
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@Aceislife said:
I was playing Coldwind today as survivor. (Rancid Abattor). The filler loops are horrible. They have 1 pallet, NO vaults, just a couple walls surrounding the pallets which most likely won't help the survivor in a chase, maybe with some luck while using Iron Will you'd be able to make distance with them. But the killer can force these pallets to be dropped super easily. How can I survive without using these pallets? Because when they are dropped, a big part of the map is a deadzone with nothing to work with. Has killer performance dropped so badly, or survivor performance gone up so much, that in the span of, what a few years, it was necessary to make loops and loop spawns from what they were to what they are now?
Not all maps have this problem. But some maps have a noticeable amount of god-awful pallets, and not enough vaults, in my opinion. Some maps feel like the old Shelter Woods, but back then we didn't have as unsafe pallets as today.
Nope every map is bad now, even ormond is bad. Only map survivor has a chance is the game.
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I still see it alot in my games but might be just me but its fine to return it if coh or selfcare gets buffed sure sable perk is okish but the time spent finding basement is as much time wasting as selfcare.
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Pyramid head takes the cake for sure. Every other killer at least have some good ones and plague gets the blessing that all of her add ons are good not a single bad one, hat you can create alot of idea. Funny she and ph are complete opppsite.
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@SoGo said:
My opinion on her is still the same no matter how they try:
They should remove her from the game (and compensate her mains, ofc), rework her from the ground up, maybe even with a brand new power, change her lore so it's not a mess, change her base cosmetics, so they don't look so inconsistent, and after all that, re-release her back into the game.
We actually can agree together on this one. Even my friends who hate trickster(I love him though) said ill take him over her while me I rather take spirit over sm as badly as I despise spirit. I
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@[Deleted User] said:
While we're on the subject, what are everyone's thoughts on her music? Personally i think it's awful, which is an outlier as almost all of the other killers have great tunes.
The first time she came out i kinda like it even though it sounded like an over loaded washing machine. Her first rework it change from washing machine to annoying sounds of people hitting drums or barrels. I rather honestly they return it to washing machine so I can provide more quarters.
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@JDecker said:
Excuse me, I'm not good at speaking English.
There have been several problems with Distortion up until now, but I think one of the most difficult things for killers to accept is that "Scratch Marks not be created for a while for survivors who have Distortion activated."
The killer player activates the Aura Detection effect to make it easier to detect survivors, for their own benefit. However, if this causes them to not only be unable to see the auras of survivors with Distortion, but also unable to see their Scratch Marks, the killer player will end up suffering a disadvantage as a result of activating the Aura Detection effect...
In other words, if the benefit of the killer activating the Aura Detection ability is neutralized by Distortion, it would be understandable, but it is psychologically difficult for players to accept that why it has a negative effect on the self.The main theme of this perk is supposed to be for survivors to hide their auras so that the killer can't see them, so I don't understand why they would continue to leave the effect of suppressing Scratch Marks.
The perk is bad now leave it be.
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@drsoontm said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3817248#Comment_3817248
Breaking line of sight is good. But it doesn't end the chase immediately. So for several seconds you can make distance, preferably not where she expects you to be.
To me, in a chase, that delay is unacceptable. I usually find the survivor before it happens. And if I don't, because of course I can be bamboozled, the time I've wasted tells me to drop the chase go disturb the generators. Besides, given the prevalence of Distortion, I may be waiting for nothing.
The more I think about it, the more I feel it may be a crutch perk for baby Nurses.
I'd rather see a fast-vault (usually combined with Lithe) to get an idea of where the survivor is going. That's way more useful in a chase. (That Ghostface perk I can't recall the name of because I've worked all day and I'm tired.)
I'll try to remember to try the perk if I play this week-end. I'll have to replace a perk of my build and that won't be an easy choice.
Am all ears the basekit perk for all pyramid heads.
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I think killers themselves want them gone but I could be wrong which I think its a positive as breakable walls I admit just hinders them more sometimes like one in midwitch by gate with the reception desk they are pretty force to break it.
Idk why woo still keeps them shown cause survivors cant interact with them yet tatics lost thst ability. Maybe its cause aura read is now on it so to not make too strong idk.
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@AngelOfHope2017 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3817336#Comment_3817336
I included your suggestion in the post!
Thanks let us hope for the best.
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@AngelOfHope2017 said:
Yeah, there are a couple maps I'd love to see gone. Although, my friends might disagree lol
Yes and sorry my phone went bonkers and and let me send out a ton of gibberish xd. Oh maps for Midwitch, Haddon. Dead Saloon and Hawkins for sure then again 90% of the maps now are bad another topic would have to be made.
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I wish we can just have the ability to use the same inventory so that I am not forced to go itemless in a trial with a survivor example escape as Jonah who I never play as so his inventory is empty. It's probably tricky for killer since they all have different add on and power.
Some items really need to go map offerings,sac wards, broken keys,shrouds are just so pointless, overall survivor items needs some updates like how killer add ons get changed. Why is there no iri flashlight for example?
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Instead of totems I say fences,trees,lockers walls would be better self pick up, imagine a survivor trying to use fragile tiny bones to pick themselves up it be funny lol.
All good points in all, I still don't understand why also ub base but only for the last 2 survivors and let them get up after one min which am sure one min to recover should be fine even 2mins would be ok.
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@Hecata_Harbinger said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3795679#Comment_3795679
It would be except every time I play Survivor or duo with my friend we get randos who I swear sniff paint as a hobby. I'm primarily a killer main and even I think killer is too easy to play. Half the time they give up on the hook or stand there and let me hit them. The game's losing it's fun, and the only thing that keeps me playing is the cool updates. Even when I want to quit playing they're like "Hey look at this shiny new update" and like the sucker I am I ooh and ahh at it. Even when I complain about the game I keep playing it, it's so damn addicting. I love it, the game is so much fun, but the players are just so toxic half the time. I love those moments when the end game chat is ggwp you were very good at that killer, it was a lot of fun, instead of being called a Wannabe because I got a 4K with my P98 killer main. Like it's my fault the MMR is the way it is, putting a near P100 against P0 or P4 survivors. No, I don't want every killer nerfed I just want to be able to have fun with my friends on Survivor and not feel like I'm going deeper into depression because of the way other people are. And I know I should ignore the bad vibes but it's hard. Sorry for my rant.
This I really wanna stop playing this but everytime I too get suckered by some new rift pass else this patch nearly did made me hit Uninstall.
I am really seeking games that will still keep my stream going cause while dbd got me to where am at, am just really done with it coupled with the facts all my dear swfs has moved on.
I rarely if lucky can get a 4 going but with only 3 remaining friends but those friends are in the uk and am us combine with how my job schedule tend to be its a miracle we may get to play and even then games are 95% bad. I wish people ( Not you) keep thinking swf still has chance. Not everyone is Ayrun, JRM or CapJam people.
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@hacendado said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816638#Comment_3816638
Addons
- Glass Fragment
- Green Dress
- Lantern of revealing
- Olson's Address Book
- Prototype Claws
- Reflective Fragment
- Blue Dress
- Compound 21
- Gold Token
- Infrared Upgrade
- Mirror shard
- Rat Poison
- Stylish Sunglasses
- Willow Wreath
- All seeing blood
- Advance Movement Prediction
- Amanda's Secret
- Cigar Box
- Crew Manifest
- Diagnostic Tool (Construction)
- Diamond Cufflinks
- Distorted Photo
- Flint and Steel
- Glowing Concocton
- Greasy Black Lens
- Healing Poutice
- Helicopter Stick
- Jailer's Chimes
- Jill's Sandwich
- Lavalier Microphone
- Light Chassis
- Matias' Baby Shoes
- Oily Coil
- Robe of Eyes
- Scratched Mirror
- Stab Wounds Study
- Tape Editing Deck
- Uroboros Virus
- Vanity Mirror
- Victor's Soldier
- Warg's Fang
- Amanda's Letter
- Black Incense
- Death Throes Compilation
- Improvised Cattle Prod
- Iridescent Crystal Shard
- Iridescent Seal of Metatron
- Leprose Lichen
- Outdoor Security Camera
- Remote Control
- Renjiro's Bloody Glove
- Tattoo Man's Middle Finger
Excellent and killers dear ask why we bring distortion. I wonder how comes its fine lightborn to negate a entire blind builds all trail or a plague to counter every healing perk and freely cause give 0 emblem points for altruistic things.
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@Xernoton said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816576#Comment_3816576
If that were true, then for the past years we'd have only seen info metas on killers. But that's not the case. Without slowdown the game is still too fast paced for the killer to do much. Most killers barely lose any time in looking for survivors anyway because they already have an idea where to go thanks to their experience and the fact that survivors usually don't hide either way.
A balanced build with slowdown and info is better than just overcommitting on one thing (very few exceptions).
Survivors are your objective but that objective becomes unobtainable after a certain amount of time. Meaning, you have 2 ways to try and win.
- You do your objective faster.
- You try to buy yourself more time to do your objective.
The second option is the more common for killers because there is only so much you can do to increase your own progression speed. After all, survivors have a direct impact on this and there are some time traps that you can't avoid normally (picking up, carrying, hooking, traversing the map).
We also nerfed the best chase perks for killers, STBFL and Sloppy (for the sake of the argument I'll consider it a chase perk because chases with an injured survivor are way shorter). So that already makes point 1 harder. Meaning, you'll need to decrease any other time losses you have, which you do by using info perks. The time you can save with this approach however is finite. Even if you were to see survivors at all times, you still couldn't win the match infinitely fast. So at a certain point more info doesn't do anything anymore.
With slowdown perks nerfed, the approach to buy yourself more and more time has become less effective, which means that the hybrid playstyle of both saving time and slowing down the game is the most effective way to play.
The reason why info was not meta is because it was just nurses bbq and bitter Murmur lol ,why would info be meta then?
Now starting with neme then up to knight the aura reading perks and add ons is through the roof why are taking about the past like that matter, it's about today and the future.
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Watch the next complaint is calm spirit/harden countering every scream perk and destroying doctor lol.
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@hacendado said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816646#Comment_3816646
Object of obsession is not a counter. It gives you problems when you are the obsession. Your aura is automatically revealed to the Killer for 3 seconds every 30 seconds. It increases your chances of being the obsession and if you are not, you can become it just by pure luck with Friends Till the End. It is too unpredictable and it is not worth revealing your aura just for the killer to find you.
Also it's a easy win for stealth killers and so help me God if they have rancor, which then that reminds me if your using ooo wouldn't throw killer Also see your aura with rancor?
I know without it ofc you see theirs they don't see you but if they can when you have ooo that is very disgustingly bad.
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@Grungelives_ said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816336#Comment_3816336
i mean the purpose of Distortion is to counter things like Im All Ears granted i was just using it as an example. Plenty of other perks and ad ons will absolutely shred tokens faster than you get em. Id be alot more fine with the Distortion change if their were more perks that hid your auta but their arent. Meanwhile we have stealth killers and a massive amount of perks that make you undetectable to counter survivor aura perks that take no effort at all to get value from.
The amount of games I have on my ytd that shows the none distortion user hiding all game and me with it ends up with 1st place with iri in Chase healing and no downs or 1 down is wild.
I Remember a match a nurse vs me and 2 friends and a random Sable who had no distortion, she was pretty new and I was looping well but she started to get a hang of her and down even me eventually.
Me and my 2 set on death hook and when when I was rescue on my second hook I saw Sable hiding in the basement healthy and no hooks so my swfs and I pointed her out the nurse did notice and spank her and put her on the basement hook and the 4 of us had a blast and me and one friend died for the nurse telling her to hook us as a thank you which she did but let one friend go.
She even came on nicely in my stream saying how she respect me the only one using distortion but did all that looping mind gaming and even flashbang save a few times cause my 2 friends don't run it either( I do have the video to show xd) so yeah in conclusion people are gonna hide if they want distortion or not but you know killers won't have it their ego and mindset will always be it's because people are bad at chasing or scared. I thought term survival would make sense why people hide not be the Karen at Walmart yelling HERE I AM COME GET ME.
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@hacendado said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816608#Comment_3816608
There are actually 25 reading aura perks (plus a lot of addons) for killers. Distortion was the only genuine counter to killer aura perks and it's useless now. A killer can see survivors aura almost from EVERYTHING. Hit gen - aura. Surv finish repair gen - aura. Surv repair gen together - aura. Hung on a hook surv - aura. Carrying a survivor on a hook - aura near scourge hook. Open locker - aura near all lockers. Surv healing - aura. Surv open chest - aura. Surv destroy totem - aura. Run near totem - aura. Surv go at basement - aura. Surv staying near open gate - aura. Run near empty item (Weave Attunement) - aura. End chase (Predator) - aura
That's insane!
1. BBQ & Chili
2. Awakened Awareness
3. Lightborn
4. Territorial Imperative
5. Nowhere to Hide
6. A Nurse's Calling
7.Undying
8. Rancor
9. Bitter Murmur
10. Friends 'Til The End
11. Face the Darkness
12. Weaved Attunement
13. Darkness Revealed
14. I'm All Ears
15. Gearhead
16. Lethal Pursuer
17. Alien Instinct
18. Blood Warden
19. Deerstalker
20. Grim Embrace
21. Hex: Retribution
22. Nemesis
23. Predator
24. Scourge Hook: Hang Man's Trick
25. Shattered HopePost the adds in too you forgot them but yeah a aura read to punish survivors for doing their job.
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I thought this was about the entire 8.3 changes but it's just about the washing machine failure.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3816567#Comment_3816567
For the record, there are only five killers in the game who do *not* have an aura reading add-on. All other killers have at least one.
- Bubba
- Pig
- Deathslinger
- Onryo
- Knight
There are 17 perks that allow for aura reading perks, and there is no way for the survivor to definitively know their aura has been revealed, outside of using "Distortion". 3 of the top 6 killer perks reveal auras (nightlight.gg/perks), with Lethal Pursuer leading the way with it's extra 2 seconds of reveal time for *every* Aura reading perk/add-on. This may not sound like much, but a lot of add-ons are only 2-4 seconds, meaning Lethal Pursuer adds 50-100% extra time.
This doesn't even account for broken combos such as Franklin's Weave, which is infinite Aura reading unless you happen to find where an item was dropped.
Distortion was the only tool for survivors who aren't good in chase to have some buffer of safety at the cost of increased pressure on other survivors in the lobby who didn't run distortion. People who are in good in chase will benefit from this change if they used distortion, but they likely don't run it since they can take care of themselves.
Pig and Bubba does, hers is Amanda's letter she only gets 2 rbts but when she crouching it shows all survivors aura, Bubba has one when he revs his saw at certain meters it show aura, onryu I thought had one I just don't remember the name,knight I think had one too also not sure of name Slinger did had one I think but then it was changed.
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Like adds on for aura reading ain't a thing either and my fav one no skilled rat poison that's actually 5 aura perks not 4. If aura reading is not as strong as all of you is claiming then why is 98% killers using them? If aura builds is weak am sure nobody would be running it so much and the posts are increasing in complaints, we know this is gonna happen and it's gonna stay that way for awhile.