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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/762903#Comment_762903
While the hatch can be rough to find, totems are not. This is without small game. Swamp maps aren't difficult to find ruin or any other hex on.
Ironic for Hag's maps.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771937#Comment_771937
No I suggested Frank’s for Undetected, not for Oblivious.
To recap:
The Mending action should be considered a healing action and should make the survivor Oblivious. This would allow Legion to stealth on mending survivors while he is NOT in FF.
Frank’s should make Legion Undetected during Feral Frenzy. This would allow Legion to not get juked out of his power while HE IS in FF.
Please note that the Frank’s change wouldn’t affect TR perks so much since he would be in FF anyway. No BT nerf here.
Well "Undetected" means no TR as well. So FF, then FF backwards. You know someone will do it!.... that being said it would be much rarer... Might not even help too much. Huh, alright.
Though it does come back to my Idea of giving Legion no TR in FF. I had to mess with that ALOT to get it to work.
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@Mochan said:
They definitely need to adjust the rarity on these, I feel like I go up against an Iri hatchet one out of every four Huntresses I fight.
Ouch. I'm sorry about that one.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771920#Comment_771920
My intention was, from the start, to allow legion to sneak up on mending survivors, not to bring back the old Legion. So yeah Oblivious while mending works better and solves the issue.
Got ya. I'll update it for ya! Is that base idea or for Frank's?
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@HeroLives said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771922#Comment_771922
If it makes you feel better to assume I’m hostile then live your perspective like that, but I’m not. I also haven’t made a post on this forum in a very long time, so you’re just making stuff up Bc there’s no posts for you to see.
I meant in this thread.
Also, I'm 100% way too sick to bother with this any more. Have fun in the Fog.
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@HeroLives said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771905#Comment_771905
Shouldn’t of said anything to me to begin with Bc it had nothing to do with the discussion, and everything to do you trying to make me out to not be level headed ,Bc I didn’t let them low key mock me, or try to blow smoke up my ass Bc they’re concerns aren’t my concerns. It really wasn’t your place.
I can call you out for being overly hostile on a public forum, my friend. I can "Say" whatever I want, if we want to get into that. Your own posts make you not seem level headed, and frankly, you seem over hostile about EVERYTHING. I saw no mocking OR passive aggression (Which I normally pick up on quickly) and they arn't trying to blow smoke anywhere. Go drink some tea or something dude. Have fun in the Fog, you are WAY too hostile to talk too.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771854#Comment_771854
I actually see SC a lot. Probably more than they like to admit lol.
BTW yes, as I already said on the other topic, Deep Wound should apply the Oblivious status effect and Mending should be considered a healing actions. I am convinced that these two changes alone would move Legion from “bottom” to “mid” tier.
I also think, like everyone else, that most of his addons are in need of a rework. I don’t have many ideas, but here we go.
- Some addons should enhance Legion’s movement speed while in Feral Frenzy in some way.
- Apply the Broken status effect on a time limit could stay, but should be easier to accomplish. Hitting twice the same survivor just to process Broken is pointless since he’s going to be injured and in front of you anyway.
- Those addons that improve the duration of FF should simply be buffed.
- Frank’s Mixtape should make Legion Undetected while in FF.
- I feel we could use a purple addon to see scratchmarks.
- We could also use a green which applies Exhaustion on DW.
Also I fully agree on having a shorter cooldown for FF and removing the M1 penalty.
Not bad ideas! I don't think I have an exact "Add-on" post yet, but you got my approval on these!
Other than ONE thing. "Oblivious" would get rid of the TR... making moonwalking Legion a thing again. So would the Frank's Mix tape effect.
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@CantDrownIfASiren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771895#Comment_771895
Yeah I was getting the messages in weird order and it's difficult in my phone. Have a good one.
Cool man. You too. Have Fun in the Fog.
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@HeroLives said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771882#Comment_771882
or how about they were getting bent out of shape Bc I disagreed, and you can’t force me to conform Bc I have a difference of opinion. When they are like “lol okay bud” it’s super passive aggressive, and Bc I disagreed they projected their issues on me. So please , don’t take my disagreement and shoutout to their passive aggressive Retorts as not being kosher. I’m not going to be passive aggressive back, I’m just going to say it.
Yeah dude. Um, I think imma leave you alone. You seem like a real powder keg.
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@CantDrownIfASiren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771886#Comment_771886
Well I could have been nicer too. The bias argument triggers me lol get rest with your sickness .
Thank ya. Pneumonia and scarring on my lungs is not fun. Still gonna try and stream like i do, but it's not gonna be long.
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@CantDrownIfASiren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771302#Comment_771302
I was for a lot of the surv nerfs. Nice assumption though. The issue is killers continue to whine for more nerfs while refusing to admit their own broken mechanics. Anyone who justifies spirit is bad or bias. The game should be balanced around 2king, not 4king every game.
well, I thought we calmed down. Ugh, man i'm too sick to bother arguing with you. I also don't wanna bother remembering what we were arguing about.
I don't want a stomp every game like you seem to think I do. That would be boring as hell.
Let's just agree that anyone that says something is OP on one side, but then says nothing or defends there own (obviously) OP stuff is a hypocrite. I don't even play Spirit, but I've seen people outplay her like a overtuned violin. That's what i'm basing it on, proof my eyes have seen.
All i want is lower tier Killers to be buffed up to being relevant. Can we agree on that?
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I have some event stuff like that. Wonder what they will do with those...
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@OmegaXII said:
Undetected killers is detected by survivors with spine chill.. nice
at least it doesnt show you in neon orange anymore.
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@CantDrownIfASiren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771347#Comment_771347
Idk but all my gay friends say it
Also, good to see we both calmed down from earlier. Sorry my post was a tad hostile. Being sick sucks.
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@CantDrownIfASiren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771347#Comment_771347
Idk but all my gay friends say it
Huh, I'd think i'd know it then. I'll ask my boyfriend.
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@HeroLives said:
How about this don’t come for me because I have no problems with it. Don’t ask questions if you don’t want answers you don’t like. If I have an issue with it once it’s live I’ll make a post.
you need to chill a bit. There is no need to be so confrontational.
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@sekkima said:
Not all of us are like that, I am a main killer and I know how it feels, I never do it (although I make my exceptions for the killers garbage) ... I play as I would like to be played and I usually adapt to the killer (I will not rush gens to a piggy .__. )
I like you. Hope I find you in the Fog!
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I just hate that mine always seems to go down instantly.
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@Fibijean said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771798#Comment_771798
No one is screaming at them, though. At least, I'm not, and I haven't seen anyone else in the thread doing so. We've looked at The Archives in the PTB, we've expressed our feedback, now all we're doing is expressing a concern that that feedback isn't being addressed. I think that many of the concerns raised were very legitimate, so I just think it would be nice to hear from the devs on what they're changing, or not, and why. That's what I was hoping this stream was going to be.
Okay well, i've seen some screaming but I get where you are coming from now in this thread. Hope that Q&A sheds some light on the subject.
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@ReVeZePHoS said:
Lets make it real simple, remove ds from the game, if a killer hooks the same survivor within 60 seconds and it is not in gates phase or later killer loses all blood points that they would have earned that game. Staying within a certain range of the hook or hooking the same survivor repeatedly is punished by losing all blood points for that match. Very few people will be willing to camp or tunnel after that. And before someone tries to say something about how I'm an entitled survivor main or some other stupid ######### like that, I am a killer main, I play primarily wraith, ghostface, and leather face. My wraith is first prestige, where as my highest lvl survivor is david at 40
Heck no! That is WAY too harsh if you even miscount by a SECOND!
Not only that but lose all BP if you stay around hook? So SWF or other people can just run around a hook like mad and make you lose everything UNLESS YOU LEAVE?! Or the same guy body blocks you cause he knows you can't hook him and he can just get picked up?!
You might be a Killer main (maybe), but you are SO OFF THE BALL! Do you know what balance is!? This is a terrible idea that would be abused hard!!! I don't care if you are a Killer, Survivor, or (Entity forbid) a Dev THAT IDEA IS HORRID!
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@kaeru said:
Pig often hits dead hards, when it activated in the middle of dash attack. Windows and pallets save, if pig wasn't close enough. That all depends on how close Pig approach in ambush mode. Sprint burst counters dash attack, I agree. Anyway, in different hands Pig can be deadly or harmless.
I prefer to play as Pig more than play against her, so that why I want them to bring back her oinking sound. I'm not a master player, but I love to play as her, because she have this funny feature. But BHVR just cut it off from the game.
naw man I get it. I main Legion. How do you think I feel? LUL
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@DeathEscape said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771843#Comment_771843
Yes, it is my third killer. And im disappointed on how fast they mend the deep wound.
At first Im against The Legion Buff but I changed my mind when I experienced what they experienced. Im playing survivor most of the time and I did not know what they experienced and I feel stupid for disagreeing with the buff.
Yeah man, they need help... alot of help, as they are considered one of the worst.
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@PGJSF said:
All of that would make SC mandatory against Legion and SC would be even more meta. Again, I don’t think we want that. Survivors seem to hate mending yeah but they hate everything. They don’t hate mending so much when it’s from BT.
Well if you tell survivors it's meta now you will get laughed at. "SC in 2019?"
I don't know, but I do see where you are coming from. Would you like to give your own thoughts here about some number changes or buffs?
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@HeroLives said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771794#Comment_771794
🙄 most video games that have challenges or story bits to unlock have harder skill level challenges to earn that challenge reward. Sometimes you have to play a style you don’t like to complete the challenge or reacher higher. So your ARGUMENT IS NOTHING BUT A LAZY ATTEMPT TO BLOW SMOKE.
okay, you are getting rude. Calm down
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771826#Comment_771826
Yes that’s why I capslocked frenzy and not feral, lol! But I do see your point.
If it would be global of course you would have a different animation. Like, three different sized KI visual cues, big, standard and small.
Legion shouldn’t easily be looped, yes. But it also can’t be something a survivor can’t escape at all...
Ohh i agree with all of that. Makes sense and we do want "Counter play"
@DeathEscape said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771834#Comment_771834
I remove the vault action on pallets for the legion so they can counter it
Umm... now, no offense... but have you played Legion recently?
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771822#Comment_771822
Not because it adds Mangled, but because in both those points you take away Mending and put Healing instead. How do a survivor heal himself? Self-Care. So giving a fast, easy to hit, avoiding loop killer a power that forces you to heal yourself, you are giving an enormous buff to SC.
He wanted to avoid mending cause that's one reason Survivors seem to hate them. Did you read all of this idea?
If they are over there SCing then i'll be cool with them wasting time. Unless, and I admit it can happen, I am missing something.
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@kaeru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771331#Comment_771331
Since you crouch close enough o_0/ She covers 16 meters on 6.4 m/s speed for a 2.5 seconds. If survivor stand in the loop, only way to avoid hit, it's abandon loop before attack starts. If survivor working on a gen, hit is pretty much unpreventable. So that's why I count dash attack as guaranteed hit
go around a corner and run. Sprint Burst. Dead Hard. Jump a window. Drop pallet...
you must have either not thought about it or played against God Piggys.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771815#Comment_771815
KI actually shouldn’t have a radius at all on Legion and it should be global, since Feral Frenzy already has a timer that goes down. One could think this would be OP, but it would still getting less info than base Doc. Not seeing bloodstains is fine lore-related (we’re in feral FRENZY we can’t see details) and balanced enough since we should aim for people who still aren’t injured. Faster MS in FF could be unplayable on consoles. Imo should be as fast as Spirit’s power, with some addons to enhance it. I agree on all the other points.
Feral things see blood better! They can even scent it! (sorry, the "!" is just a habit. I'm not yelling)
If it's global, you are gonna be running after ALOT of people you can't reach before you realize.
Yes, but a Trapper with 3 stacks of PWYF goes 5% faster than Legion in a Frenzy. Legion should not be EASILY looped while they are in FF
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@PGJSF said:
Here I am. Aside from my suggestions on how to buff Legion made in another topic, I have two objections about what’s written here.
Point 5: At base, being hit with Feral Frenzy causes mangled that persists until fully healed. Can't be stacked with other mangled status effects like sloppy butcher but works with coulraphobia and the like.
And the sentence:
“Survivor now remove the DW status effect by healing to full health, not by mending. DW lasts indefinitely.“
Both these points would be a huge buff to Self-care and we don’t want that. Mending should stay as a base action performed by all perkless survivors.
Ohh interesting. Why would the first be a buff to self care, if it gives mangled?
That seconds one was to add balance to the secondary power he was suggesting.
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@DeathEscape said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771815#Comment_771815
I think a lot of survivor mains will not like that though
They won't like alot of things, sadly.
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@Starr43 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771808#Comment_771808
To be completely honest it doesn’t bother me. The game can be frustrating but also very enjoyable. It’s going to change constantly and it’s never going to please everyone, that’s just the way it is.
Good attitude! I like you already. Have fun in the Fog!
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@DeathEscape said:
I removed killer instinct,survivors can heal to remove the effect and give it a longer fatigue time to balance it. Any suggestion on what needs a change please comment.
.... don't take away Killer Instinct. Legion relies ALOT on Information. Taking it away will really hurt.
Longer Stun is also prolly unneeded.
How fast is the FF MS? It's too slow currently
Why can't we see blood stains?
hitting one person then getting stunned? IS that what I read? That alone would make me say no. I love the Rush Down style of Legion. Hitting one them moving to the next and the next is so fun.
Vault speeds are too slow right now too
I get that you are trying to make FF lethal, but I'm not 100% sure if this is how to do it, or if it should be done this way.
All in all, a very interesting idea so far, but i'm not sure it's the best i've seen.
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Side note: The other Killers have it now too.
@Starr43 said:
BBQ, Bitter Murmur, Nurse’s... but if I want to run Object then the killer can see me indefinitely but you can’t see them? Like the way Freddy used to be with Object.. lol and I never 4 man. Object is just a guilty pleasure.
also, sorry I hate OoO. If I find you in the Fog, I'll really try to remember not to be too mean about it.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771789#Comment_771789
Of course you can, I also just read your comment on my wall. I just am idiot with forums and don’t know how to find your topic, lol!
There ya go!
Both of you come by and look over the ideas here. Give me your ideas and feedback. A little more work on yours @DeathEscape and it would be cool! Keep refining it with some thought to balance and fun on BOTH SIDES. Just please, for the love of the Entity, keep the "Rush Down" or "Blitz attack" play style if you do more than a buff. It's WHY Legion is fun.
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@Theoretical_Heart said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771744#Comment_771744
*theirs
I'm very grateful. I hate all of these strawman arguments against people who have legitimate numerical MATHEMATICAL issues with the challenges and grind.
I'm so sick of being strawmanned ane seeing others strawmanned for very visible issues concerning the Rift progression rate.
Maybe you guys are so new to DbD that you don't remember when the devs had weekly streams addressing concerns in the community. But us veteran players do.
Oh thank you. I always get that wrong (not snarky, btw. Being honest)
Also, I been playing since 2016-17. Quit then came back for Legion. I am very very much not a new face in DBD. My post was more of a "Why do they bother when everyone is always screaming at them?"
I haven't seen the challenges myself, I admit, but I'd be happy to look at them and give my feedback then.
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771731#Comment_771731
Look, from my experience with Legion (which frankly is A LOT) he doesn’t need a rework. He needs a buff. He’s good, he feels fun, very fun to play. His addons are those in need of a full rework, and Deep Wound isn’t threatening enough.
Your suggestion is to buff Deep Wound - and on that I fully agree - but I think you are aiming too high.
A stupid way I would buff Deep Wound? Survivors in the Deep Wound status effect are also subject to Oblivious status effect. Mending should be a healing action and therefore detected by Nurse’s Calling etc.
There you go. Ready for the red ranks.
Huh, can I put that in a section in my Rework Legion thread? Or you can think up something else and post it there.
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@Theoretical_Heart said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771769#Comment_771769
He's referring to vaults lol. As if you shouldn't be able to get hit through a vault as if it's some magic invisible barrier that killers can't attack over.
I mean, it's a window, not a force field. I was curious if i could see these hits though. I've never hit someone through a rock or wall (other than vaults) with Billy.
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@anarchy753 said:
You mean just like Pig has been for years?
3 add ons, 2 brown 1 yellow, that affect the ambush attack and the rest are crappy effects on Jigsaw Boxes and RBTs.
that have been nerfed aaaaallllmost to Legion level
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https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Lunge@BunnyTheHutt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/770726#Comment_770726
That's what they say, but fighting/playing as Freddy disproves this.
Literal Proof.
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While I will agree that any time I am kept near a hook it's cause the others are looping around it, I can not condone your tone and insults to survivors. I am a Killer main, and have been BM'ed alot (I main Legion after all) but have met enough good survivors that your tone sickens me.
@dirtygloveoj said:
your all embaressing. dirtygloveoj is a refrence to oj simpson thats my gt on xbox if you want to join the fan mail i get every day along with getting reported i dont care survivors in dbd are the biggest cry babies in the world its disgustinf but i love it cause they want you to play to their style lso they can win its hillarious and if you dont you get reported and hate mail like haahha arit man arit go explain to your mom why your yelling
IF you don't believe me, I have hours of footage of me playing Killer.
Have Fun in the Fog.
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Then don't tbag, BM, and taunt everyone else.
Also, hit behind wall, behind rocks.... can I see proof of that?
Also, he is quite loopable. Be careful of straight lines.
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So yall can bring all the tools and stuff you want, all be blendettes and I won't know about it? Yeah, no. it's 1 vs. 4. There will NEVER be an equal ground cause the 1 should have the same power as the 4 together!
Before you say it, no I don't want 4k ez every game. That would be boring as HELL! I want good back and forth matches.
Also hiding health states and obsession? Do you WANT Killer to be powerless? Go play Killer and see if you do good without that info. I'll wait.
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@HamdaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/769581#Comment_769581
if bhvr makes more characters like spirit this games dead
Opinions are lovely.
My opinion is most Killers are underpowered and need some love. Maybe not to Spirit level, but they do need help.
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@Frosty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771714#Comment_771714
That's pretty rough, no wonder they get such a bad rap. A rework along the lines of your 6 page outline would be a game changer.
That's not counting in the DS every time my power ends, the add-ons that want you to double tap someone to apply a condition for 60 seconds, the add-on that TREMENDOUSLY reduces the stun by 0.6 seconds, honestly all the add-ons are trash so lets move on, The "can get stunned out of FF even as you hit someone with it", the lack of being able to see scratch marks OR blood in FF, the fact if you m1 someone you lose 50% of your power... oh and if you miss once cause auto aim or something eat a stun and lose your power...
oh or the fact that Deep Wounds is a joke of a condition that is almost never threatening (you will get more "Game Over" score events then DW downs)
I am glad you like my thread though.
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@HamdaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/771710#Comment_771710
keep believing what you want man. and it was just the first clip. that attitude is why nothing will ever be fixed. good luck in your games
You too. Your attitude is the same as everyone else that complains and refuses to listen. Have Fun in the Fog.
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.... wow.... why do the Devs even put up with this community?
We all enjoy this game, they give it to us. Be at least a bit grateful...
*voice is drowned out by all the complaining and people that won't try and look at it any way but there's*
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cause people complained about having to milk the flowers.
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@Ebisek said:
Every DC have the reason.
Lets fix tunneling, camping, sluging, broken hitboxes and you ll fix the most of DCs.
Or cause someone got hit... or cause someone wants to die cause the Killer is "OP" or cause there friend is sitting on the hatch... or cause 2-3 gens pop instantly (Killer one! Surprise! I used one from the other side to switch it up!) Oh oh oh or my favorite that i've had people admit too! "I DC'ed on death hook cause you get less points and don't pip."
Every DC has a reason. Doesn't mean the reason is a good one.
(Also Camping is a terrible strat. Stay alive and watch the gens pop. Tunneling is a thing, use DS. 60 seconds. Slugging is a thing and a tactic. Use Unbreakable. Broken hitboxes? Which ones? All Killer lunges are the same. It's likely ping there.)
Side note: I don't tunnel unless the injured guy shoves his face into mine, nor DO i slug often and I NEVER camp. I have hours of footage if you don't believe me.
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@PGJSF said:
Imo that could be op af and I’m a Legion main. You say Fatal Wound should apply with one hit, and the survivor wouldn’t be able to mend or heal. That means instadown while avoiding loops? That’s more powerful than Nurse. You could down four people with one use of your power.
Oh I did not see that! Yeah no! That's terrible if that's what they want! No no no, I do NOT want more Legion hate getting them ANOTHER round of nerfs.
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@MegMain98 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/659/TFZ7B5HJGHDW.jpeg
They’re all the same. I do think this is funny though.
That picture, is AMAZING.