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Yeah pretty much no reason to ever use his ranged attack now. Just another M1 killer on the scrap heap. He'll keep Clown company at least.
Sad.
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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1663358#Comment_1663358
'third party external programs' lmao please. I've played DBD with my boyfriend in the same room aplenty, no need for 'third party programs.' Is that cheating? No. People queuing up with their friends are allowed to be in a call. They could very easily be in a simple phone call. Let me guess, that's cheating, too.
I'll not bother addressing just how often the actual sweaty SWF with godlike comms that exist just to destroy a killer's fun with hyperefficiency comes up, because it's not actually that often. Most people that play with friends, do so for fun, and are just having a laugh with their friends, chatting etc. But do go on how something built into the game is cheating.
yes that's also cheating. It's like having a friend look at everyones cards playing poker and telling you what hands they're playing. Exactly the same.
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swf audio coms is just hilariously broken. Made even more so because it is not balanced into the game and yet behaviour allows 3rd party external programs (otherwise known as cheating) to let players achieve this broken, unfair, unbalanced advantage because theres nothing they can do to stop it.
Cheating is ok people. Go out and do it.
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Stand facing a corner and /afk till they leave. Everyone de-pips and nobody has a good time (especially the ooo troll). Eventually all going well if everyone does this they may leave for another game and our community is a better place.
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cage is useless.
The only time I use it is when all other Survivors are either dead or hooked rather than having to lugg them over to a hook myself.
Or if I suspect someone is a DS troll.
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@Human_Giraffe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1650094#Comment_1650094
Well yeah but would you really qualify breathing as a skill? Or lighting yourself on fire? I think you're confusing ability to do something with a skill, something you can do that you can do well. You can't really tunnel well now can you? You do it the same as any other killer.
Doing anything as nurse requires skill, breathing and bursting spontaneously into flame included.
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Try Quick 'n Quiet + lithe + Dance With Me (with spine chill) to vault silently into a sprint leaving no scratch marks. Provides there are good line of site blockers I can usually get away about 75 percent of the time using that build.
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Yet DS / DH / BT / Iron Will / Spine Chill Adrenalin all exist.
hmmm.
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anything that requires more conscious effort than being a rock is skill.
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I thought I cared but I changed my mind.
Apologies.
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I'd like to see a teired perk system where you can have a combination of the following:
- 1 top tier perk that takes up 4 perk slots
- 2 upper mid tier perks that take up 4 slots
- 3 mid tier perks that take up 4 slots
- 4 lower tier perks that take up 4 slots
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1647051#Comment_1647051
There's just an increased cooldown before he can M1 again after placing a trail. He is not being forced to use POTD every time he lays a trail.
Cool not so bad then. I rarely use his ranged attack anyway as I prefer using STBFL on him. It's not a ridiculous 10 second cool down or something is it?
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Let me get this straight. PH will no longer be able to strategically place trails sporadically without being forced into a ranged attack animation? So the only solution here to avoid this animation delay is to spend your entire trail pool, negating any strategy for placing trails here and there. Fantastic. Wd on removing skill and strategy from PH.
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Solo queue needs like an extra couple of perk slots seeing as SwF queue has an invisible massively OP 5th perk (audio coms)
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
When even Otz is saying he thinks its because the Halloween DLC is still selling I'm inclined to believe it. We all know Ash sales dropped off a cliff when the MoM rework was announced.
I don't think I've seen anyone use MoM in over half a year lol. Pay 2 Lose confirmed
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What are you talking about? Survivors don't get nerfs come on now that would be madness!
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@ad19970 said:
I just don't get it, there's one small killer nerf and immediately people act like BHVR are survivor sided. How do you conclude such things from one single balance change? They listen to both sides, that's all.
- Legion nerf
- Freddy nerf
- Nurse nerf
- Billy nerf
- PH Cage nerf
- Scratch marks disappearing at random since last patch
bugshadow nerf
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Quick question about this, are the PH players who like to place trails in sporadically strategic places going to be punished along with this nerf?
I mean lets say I want to lay a partial trail in several places rather than using the entire trail in one spot all at once (to avoid the ranged attack cooldown nerf)
Am I going to have to endure a lengthy forced cooldowns from a forced ranged attack every time I want to place a small trail rather than spending the entire trail pool (even though all I wanted to do was lay small trails here and there without launching a ranged attack)
how are they going to balance this?
As it stands with genrush in the state it is its just going to slow down an already slow killer who already has awful map presence.
This really is the death knell for PH it seems.
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I don't understand cheating. It takes the fun out of the game for everyone, including the cheater.
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@ClickyClicky said:
I’m just gonna switch to Spirit lol. Enjoy another Stridor Spirit guys 😚
Yeah I'm back off to Nurse. You see what you did people? you nerfed a minor killer into extinction and resurrected a god killer in it's place. Hope you got what you wanted. lawl
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@Kira15233 said:
We all knew this day was coming, sadly, devs listen too much the survivor community, he can't bait anymore, only decent thing about his changed is POTD being slightly shorter, welp, I'm done with the survivor community, time to mori them when I play killer
lawl. pay 2 lose is here people. wd behaviour.
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I know their strategy now. Bore the hell out of you with endless rift grind till you can't take the rift grind any more and just cave in and buy it lmao.
Got the cosmetic I wanted:
And it looks like I'll be able to complete the rift:
Though I did get that sweet Dweight top I was desperately grinding towards. Had like 6 to go, gave up and bought out the slots lol:
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@ringwinning said:
I don't get the term as when it applies to Spirit. I get it if the Spirit is just facecamping or something but otherwise imo she takes some skill, even if not as much as others. Just an interesting note I got from a salty survivor.
/Psychology.exe
It's just bad sportsmanship. Some people not mature enough to appreciate the participation of an opposing team in a constructive way trying to build their self esteem up by what should be a futile attempt at tearing someone else's down.
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@OldHunterLight said:
So I reported this a while ago and not even a mod or dev said anything.
I lost my deathgarden mask, I had it, bought 3 cosmetics for Meg (hair and chest pieces) equiped them in the store menu, played a match and when I checked later on like a week or so later I didn't had it anymore.
While this isn't a big loss like the legacy loss for players it is something and I just want to know what it is.
Trust me your better off without it. All Megheads with deathgarden mask are 100% guaranteed without exception complete tools
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/193911/survivor-mains-when-did-you-discover
I came into this game wanting nothing to do with playing Survivor.
While life as a killer is a little rough right now, I enjoy it about 15% more than I'm frustrated by it.
lmao that's exactly how I feel about Nurse, although some days I think the frustration is 15% more than the enjoyment
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@MaybeShesCrazy said:
Last week I decided to spend a day playing killer instead of survivor - this is how it went. (BTW I always loved the killer players for what they do... I love them even more now .. thanks for player killer, killers! - well most of you :-) )
Number one thing I learned was that at least 75% of survivors are jerks. Yup. Yup, they are. (And I thought I was annoyed with survivor behavior as a survivor!)
I'll start by saying that I wanted to player killer the way I wished most killers would. No tunneling or camping. Let players get people off hooks, don't attack while healing - though after you are fair game lol etc etc
Some of that idealism didn't even last a full game.
The first 5 games at least 2 out of every 4 survivors tea bagged me. How did that end? Well the offenders were hook camped until they died - that's how it ended. In fact one game I left them all dying on the ground for trying to save the really offending teabagger. I cared not. The teabaggers were obnoxious, there was absolutely nothing to warrant that behavior. Hook camping has a place - dealing with obnoxious tea-bagging players. So justified. (and VERY satisfying.)
Now how does this translate to me when I play survivor? Be warned fellow survivors, I might just leave you on the hook to die if I see a killer going for you alone as now I understand fully why they might be.
Out of the first 5 games, at least 2 games I had survivors DC's. What's amusing about that is I suck as killer and they probably would have escaped.
Once guy DC'd because I kept hitting him down. In my deference, his teammates kept getting out of the way and pushing him in the way when I would hit ...so he ended up hit instead. I never re-hooked him and never went after him as I wanted to play as fair as I could and give everyone a chance to have fun. I've been in his shoes more than once where a killer would just hook and hook me right at the start and I never had a chance to really play. So I did my best not to do that to someone else. I was so disappointed he DC'd. More for him than me.
The entire day was like this. No joke. Although the teabagging finally got reduced to 2 out of every five games.
So killers. Thanks again for playing that role. I've now seen though your eyes and I have even more respect for you than I did before. Thanks for putting up with all the jerks and continuing to play and not ragging leaving the game. I love you dearly.
Survivors, the ones with the bad behavior are who I'm talking about: From one survivor to another - stop being such jerks. Seriously.
"Don't attack while healing" when was this a thing? this is pretty much all I do as Killer lol. It's what I live for. Nurse + Nurses Calling = <3
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@YaiPa said:
the reason why season passes have to be completed in a certain time it's to make people FOMO, hence forcing them to buy the premium track and tiers. Devs have literally no good reason to leave the rift open for extra time.
What I'm saying is that ONLY IF YOU BUY the Premium track should the rift remain open. That way bragging rights remain intact and casual players / players that for whatever reason cannot complete the rift within the slim amount of time are not punished for purchasing a product.
I suppose for those players they are expected to not only buy the Premium track but buy each level they missed due to being a casual player. Capitalism sux.
Regardless I won't be buying this one because the cosmetics are just meh over all. I've bought and completed the 2nd and 3rd one but this one. nah.
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Whispers / STBFL / Nurses Calling / Discordance + Any Killer (including Legion) = Profit
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I started in 2016 and had a 2 year break so it's taken me 2 and a bit years? to get this:
- I have all Killers at Rank 50 (I only have all perks on three of them)
- I have something like 48 Survivors at Rank 50 ( I have all perks on NONE of them)
That's a hell of a lot of grind. I can see why new players would be put off.
-edit- 3 of my Killers are P3 maxed out on perks, forgot that one lol
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No Killer enjoys playing vs arrogant Survivors
Pretty much it right there. I mean there's probably a few more psychological players such as OoO takes control away from the Killer but other than that its just Arrogant players that run that toxic perk.
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Everyone who has ever complained about Freddy only does so because:
- They haven't bought him so they don't know how to play as him therefore they don't know how to counter him
And that is all.
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Recently I was hooked in the basement but my body was levitating above the first floor of the basement killer shack. Some weird stuff happens in dbd lol
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@[Deleted User] said:
*Insert counter-"argument" about DS + Unbreakable, possibly with Dead hard + BT / Adrenaline, and then say "Killers finally have a chance" and then assume that every survivor is running this build, also don't forget to complain about SWF"
lmao this right here ^
Seriously, Survivors are complaining about killer meta perks? lawl
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DS on Nurse makes me a sad panda. The amount of work that went in to get that down was well deserved.
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1638243#Comment_1638243
Actually, they get 12.
If you want to go at it from that angle:
- Survivors get 2 lives each (totalling 8 - the last 1 each dont count because its their final life)
- Killers get 16 lives
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Because Killers get 4 lives. Survivors only get 1
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@StarLost said:
Seeing quite a few threads about this today where people got rolled and don't know what happened to them.
What is a smurfcomp, you ask? Well, there's an old trick that has suddenly become so commonplace I'm seeing at least 1-2 a day now. If, say, 2 red rank survivors queue up with a buddy at level 15, they will get a much lower ranked killer to face (and easily stomp).
As far as I know, there used to be a protection against this, where SWF groups would always get a killer of a rank close to the highest ranked person in the party, not the lowest.
Why was this changed?
This is the sort of thing that is going to crush the spirits of new killers.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/4796AHOTTCPS/this-is-fair-jpg.jpg
Far as I'm concerned doing this is an exploit as it is clearly exploiting the rank system to ruin new players experience and should be a bannable offense.
High ranked Survivors should never be allowed to cheat their way into lower tiers. SWF needs to be changed to make sure this never happens for the health, well being and future of everyones game.
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@GoofyGooberRock said:
When I had crossplay on I was getting terrible games and I kept losing games along with my friend when we would play, but as soon as I turned off crossplay I started winning games again and it felt so good fighting against killers again because it became fun.
Queue times aren't that long if you have a buddy with you because it takes 1-5 minutes to hop in a game.
And yes we would still lose games but at least it wasn't as often as all the time
PC player by the way.
awesome might give that a go today see how I go. also feels a bit like playing with / against npc's when theres no pre / post match chat
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I don't actually use PH's ranged attack because I run STBFL. Probably not the best perk for him but it works for me lol.
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I never use cage while more than 1 Survivor is alive because its a straight up nerf to your ability to kill Survivors. The benefit of not using cage far outweighs the seconds you save taking a Survivor to a hook as well, the barbed wire obstructing their screen for the entire match gives you an edge for the duration it effects them.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1636482#Comment_1636482
So, basically, if he's close... hope he misses?
The same with any killer, ranged or melee.
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I have a huge problem with the fact that this isn't even being acknowledged as an issue. And it is a huge game breaking one make no mistake. Imagine if in a future patch Survivors just started screaming at random when they ran it'd be fixed so fast the bug would barely have a chance to have gone live.
Why isn't it even being acknowledged is what I want to know. scratch / bloodstains disappearing needs to be addressed and dealt with for the health, well being and future of our game.
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1636781#Comment_1636781
Hmm... I’ll support you in how crap this issue is, but what you’re comparing is not the same thing.
Willingly equipping an add on after an announcement has been made that users will be banned until a fix is in place for a bug/exploit is totally different to the scratch marks issue.
What are you expecting?
Survivors are banned from running until it’s fixed?
Thats not reasonable.
Then fix it.
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So when killer addons are broken (Filthy / Nasty blades) your banned for using them as they are considered an 'exploit' but when Survivor scratch marks and blood stains are broken it's perfectly fine and not an exploit at all. Double standards much. lol. just lol.
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@Zucker_Schock no. just no. what's happening is mid chase scratch marks will just plain stop. And it isn't perks doing it either. Anyone who actually plays Killer would know this and it is complete bullshit.
I've tried using Sloppy Butcher, Bloodhound and Predator which under normal circumstances makes losing scratch marks impossible and it is exactly the same. Scratch marks and blood stains just plain disappear.
I've noticed on several occasions that I've been able to get away from Killers where I simply shouldn't have been able to any time before this patch.
I'll be quitting killer entirely till this is fixed because there is just no point.
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@RepostRiposte said:
I think they made them clip under certain textures like Ormond snow/Red Forest gravel.
So this was intentional? this is just how the game is going to be from now on? ######### no I'm done.
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Get to the pallet and drop it / or window before PH can line up a ranged shot. If you cant do this take a different route till you can.
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Well there's the game breaking intermittent disappearing scratch mark bug exploit so killers feel the need to do anything and everything to be able to compete?
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With the game breaking, intermittently disappearing scratch mark shadow nerf of last patch I whole heartedly agree.
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Its way too much. I missed out on 30 days play time due to PC issues and I have no possible way of completing it. I'm only at rift rank 40 with 15 days to go.
I'm just happy I didn't waste any money on it. Though I would have if I'd had enough time (really wanted the Nurses gas mask)