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@kisfenkin actually they could just make it so there is a negative effect for killers.. either hook the last survivor for double points.. or don't get any points for any chasing.. or anything during the end game challenge. The entity is doing the killers job at that point, so they don't need to be rewarded when the entity steps in to do the killers dirty work. That should anger the entity towards the killer.
Plus they could... make it a bit easier for that last survivor as in.. say.. if there is 20 seconds left... the doors could open if both are closed... so if the killer want to prevent both from opening... they have to go open another gate to stop that.. thus giving the survivor a chance to escape.
Feels pretty one sided when this situation comes up.
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@Poweas I got told I was a "PSYCHO [Bad Word]" for doing that last night with legion. Bad word being the nasty C word for vagina.
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@Pizzaman it is called The End Game Challenge!
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The Devs made a mini game in DBD... the EGC actually stands for End Game Challenge.
It is an in game challenge for killers to leave one survivor left and to close the hatch with both doors still closed.
Thanks for the mini game BHVR... LOVE IT!
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EGC stands for End Game Challenge... The challenge is to have one survivor left at the end.
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@Orion yeah right.. dude that is the most funniest thing ever to have one survivor at the end.. and you as the killer find the hatch first.... close the hatch... run to the doors.. you got whispers.. that survivor is #########.... you don't even need to chase them really.. just move around near them and pin them in location.
They wanna loop?.. no problem... I'll just stand there and watch you run around.. funniest ######### ever.... no way am I never gonna stop doing that.
There is a new sport in the killer world.. and it is getting to the EGC with one survivor left.
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@Plu
Nah.. it is just people in the high rank are considered the Best of the Best.. so...
If they are the best of the best, and they decide to play Wraith, and get mad cause 3 of the 4 survivors have MOM... ? Are they the Best then? How come you still can't have fun?... Is it only fun when you win?
Why did they choose to play a low tier killer?
The Devs have stated not all killers are meant to be as powerful as one another.
It is basically, high rank players, playing high tier killers play the best, but once they play a low tier killer they get upset cause they can't play aswell as the high tier killer. Why should they?
So are they then "the best" of the players? Is it a situation of... Coming to the understanding that maybe you aren't one of the best.. or not as good as you thought, and that is what drives the idea that MOM becomes a problem and is no longer fun?
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What stops survivors from preventing killers from ever using their Moris again?
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Based on the info from the QA presented in the news... During the loading phase of the match, if there is less than the required players, the match is canceled and all items and offerings are returned, except for the player that DC'd.
Since the offering screen comes up before the loading screen, once a survivor sees a Mori and they decide to disconnect, the load screen comes up without the required number of players and then is canceled, returning the Mori to the killer.
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Is this not how it works?
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I would say... You don't balance the game around the best players... Nor do you balance the game around those who can't play well. IMO.
The game balance isn't dynamic. As you increase in rank the players become better, but the game stays the same.
You make it easier for higher rank killers to take out higher rank survivors, you make it easier for lower rank killers to kill low rank survivors.
Since many, I guess, don't play for rank and/or casuals, there is a wide range of skillsets in the lower ranks, ranging for those who can play the best, and those who are newish.
How do you balance for that when you get a survivor who has played 100 hours and they get a killer player who has played the game over 2000 hours? However they are the same rank.
How do you balance the reverse of that? 4 survivors playing a SWF in rank 14 with a combined total of 5000 hours being paired against a rank 14 killer who has 100 hours?
So I don't see how you can present the argument that you can't do well in the upper ranks using say the Wraith, because of MOM, or have "fun". You are playing as one of the best correct? You can easily win if you took Billy and have fun.. but not with Wraith? because of MOM? However Wraith I don't believe is a top tier killer, so why should you do just as well as Billy?
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I understand where you are coming from because you want the freedom of playing whatever killer you want, and not have to deal with some BS that you wouldn't have to with another type of killer.. but I can't see your side of the argument because of the things you mention make me feel it contradicts the idea of being what is considered "the best" of players.
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@Orion yeah figured it was wrong somewhere... Gets confusing sometimes.
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So in this thread a Dev mentions the increase in timer is by 50% which means the 2 minute timer is increased by 60 seconds... not to 4 minutes when downed. So the max amount of time the EGC can be is 3 minutes correct?
Also.. about when players leave during the loading screen.... So.. when offerings are tossed out.. and a survivor sees a mori and leaves during the offering screen is over.. and loading begins.. Is the match canceled and the killer gets their Mori back?
What stops survivors from preventing killers from ever using moris again?
@Almo and @Peanits
The info I see in the news section with the QA makes me ask these, since I seen Almo explain the timer goes to 3 minutes.. not 4. When does the EGC goto 4 minutes as being the max?
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@lunaticlifter Well the issue is playing in the high ranks then isn't it?
To me... How I interpret what is being said, the issue is playing low rank killers at a higher rank and getting no where cause everyone in the high ranks most survivors run MOM... Maybe I'm wrong on how I interpret what you said.
So the issue than is playing in the high ranks.
As someone who plays in the low ranks.. I feel the freedom to choose whatever killer I want... I maybe see MOM once a match.. if that.
I also enjoy the chases and hunting more than any other aspect of playing killer, so I don't mind seeing MOM.
Don't get me wrong there are things that are unfun in this game which can overtime grind you down.. but I can't see your side of the argument in this case.
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Best thing to do.. is just not worry about rank and stop playing up in the upper ranks... They seem really pointless to play if you can only choose a couple of killers and then when you don't, you can't have fun playing.
There is nothing stopping players from just not worrying about rank and choose to play in the lower ranks and have more fun... I choose that long ago and I'm extremely happy I did. The Devs made the upper ranks not enjoyable for casual playing.... Which is how it should be I guess?.. So if you aren't the tryharder and don't find that fun... the question becomes "why play in the upper ranks?"
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@lunaticlifter but even the Devs have stated not all killers are meant to be at the same level of "power".
So if you choose a mid tier killer than aren't you expected to play more "tryhardy" in order to succeed?
I don't see the argument of playing with a lower tier killer and expecting the results of using a higher tier killer.
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TBH I don't think they can even touch Billy.. or even Nurse....
What happens when you reduce their powers to where the rest of the killers sit?
They would have to readjust the entire gen repairing to make it even possible for killers to get more then a couple kills a match. Gen rushing all around. I can't even imagine how high rank match would play out if you no longer had killers that could apply so much pressure as they do.
What happens if you bring up any of the other killers to where Billy and Nurse are?... You'll get a bunch of survivors probably quitting cause they can't compete against another OP killer.
IMO.. I think the Devs are in a dammed if you do and dammed if you don't situation with both those killers.
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Yeah sorry when someone points out and brags they consistently get 3K to 4Ks... then how are we supposed to take it?
Cause you don't find it fun?.... How so?.. Cause it ruined your rhythm?
I want to be hey.. yeah.. MOM sounds like it would be nasty if all 4 survivors took it in a match.. but then you see the I get 3K and 4Ks consistently... and I'm supposed to jump on your side?
The act of chasing isn't fun?... What really makes it unfun?
What is it then you considered balanced when you consistently get 3K or 4Ks?... Where is the balance then?... Where you consistently get 4Ks every match?
You've lost me.. I play survivor allot and I've been getting into killer allot more over the last year... but I don't understand the reasoning so far in this post.
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Zero point to ranking once you got you achv.
I don't know why people even bother to be honest.. Play in the high ranks and sweat your undies off... or play in the low ranks and have some fun.
I don't know.. I'd rather lose allot and still have fun... SO LOW RANKS IT IS!
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What was that supposed to be?...
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Well everytime a killer picks up a survivor it looks like they are picking up a bowling ball when they do that ass grab.
I feel my finger get all stinky when I watch that.... giggles at the same time.
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Legion was a M1 killer anyways.. what changed?....
Exactly!
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Actually had a crash last night playing Billy on the Plagues maps.. right off my first M1 hit on little Nea.
First time had a killer crash in a long time.
Sucks I feel for ya.
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Take adrenaline and you don't need to worry about healing anymore.
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Hope they miss.
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Nice.. they put that on your steam profile... bye bye account.
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I bet it is stand alone.. The amount of leaked information in the Dev build.. and nothing shows anything about a survivor being included. If they got that much in for The Ghost, they would have survivor stuff in it too, since the release date seems to be for May 28th based on all the info.
They got a wack of new cosmetics in there too.. so too me that Dev build looks like they are just finalizing things.
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Well apparently the Data suggests that SWF doesn't make up a huge portion.. at least that is what some killer mains think. So why do we need an indicator on top of the player since SWF isn't as big of an issue as it is portrayed?
Besides.. it comes down to giving another reason for players to dodge lobbies.
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Probably not.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/456849#Comment_456849
I can guarantee that it was not tampered with, although as mentioned in the data post, these are very vague statistics. They do not show how it might effect survival rate at specific ranks, for example. I would not recommend making any conclusions based on them alone.
Somewhere in this discussion.. I don't think I linked the actual comment.. but Peanits goes through it in the thread.
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Would be cool if they did add pinhead.. but made him more like the Legion in the sense that it be the Mennonites, so you could choose to be more than just PinHead.
@Mushwin The cool things is Pin Head would call forth the hook and it would spring out and hook the downed survivor and drag them to the closest hook. That way PinHead could continue going around and chase survivors while that one is heading too the hook.
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BOOOOOO! Must not mess with BBQ tokens...
But yeah like Orion said... Oh well.. Entity doesn't like to help the killer out.. dam spider.
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I doubt either.. Cause I think we would have seen that content aswell in the leak.. would be late to put in that survivor I think.
I bet this is a killer only release.
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Hey... Don't forget now that if you throw a mori out and someone DCs cause they don't like Moris....
:)
Everyone is going to have 999 moris soon.
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If you are playing with a mouse and keyboard...
When you use A or D to turn... Reaching the top of the turning curve is slower.. so slower turning..
If you use the mouse and go left or right, it will reach the top of the turning curve really quick.. so fast turning..
Some people map that mouse turning to Q and E so they can do "flicks" near the end of their chainsawing.
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While they do this....
And they laugh at you...
Then make sure you do this...
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Yeah sounds about right... that is why you don't prestige unless you really want those bloody clothes.
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OP forgets to turn off chat then this happens...
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This thread be like... Time to go home...
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Well if you take in borrowed time you won't feel so bad when you do it :)
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Taking one for the team was pretty easy... only 2 I found/find hard is that Deranged Pursuit and the Huntress long shots.
Since allot of killer camp I got that one pretty fast.
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I'm gonna wait till the next update and take the easy way out on that achv.
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Not sure if this will help you but..
... I'm curious. I hear a lot of people having a lot of connectivity issues as both survivors and killers. I don't know if it's location based but in Europe I get games instantly as both killer and survivor. It may fail to join once or twice as a survivor but after those five seconds I'm generally in a lobby and able to start as soon as everyone readies up. The only reason I can think there would be so many problems is due to people's NAT settings.This is for PC.. but maybe there is some ports on the router closed or something..
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8571-GLVN-8711
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TBH... Before the store came out it was even harder to find Jakes... Now with the store I at least see one every few matches.
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Don't forget to attend next weeks meeting. Some Legion players were absent this week. Remember, every Saturday we get together here...
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Hey guys.. Some of you didn't show up to the meeting this week... Remember every Saturday. You still have to pay your dues by the way. See you next week.. same time.. same place.
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that would be a big old negative whilly.
You want the Devs to put in voice... have you seen some of the bug that have been in this game for awhile now?.. and you want them to reinvent the wheel when there are already amazing VOIP apps...
Nah thanks... I'd rather the Devs continue doing what they are doing and not create a new project that will take them a year to finish.
IMO.
Oh yeah.. just sending out a friendly reminder Legion mains... Some of you didn't show up to the club this week... you still need to pay your dues even if you miss the meeting.
