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@MineAntoiya said:
Nurse will need to be nerfed AFTER survivor is where they should be - Weak when separated, stronger together. Right now, you as a single survivor can do so much against any killer who isn't a good nurse. And don't get me started on the bully fest that is the 4v1 right now. Hillbilly will then in turn be reworked/nerfed.Until they fix pellet loops never going to happen mate
You even said it, a survivor can do so much against any killers cuz they can be "Looped", where you can't vs a nurse
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@TeambossFloze said:
Damnit man you could win the lottery and still complain you haven't received enough.Killers getting stronger,
Survivors need to get better,
Toxicity needs to be deleted from this damn game
and fun will be hadIt has nothing to do with buffs, no matter how much they buff Killers it would be the same. There's no incentive for Killers to chase new survivors, it's better to just tunnel one person till he's dead is what I'm saying
the current system in place encourage Killers to camp and tunnel at High ranked
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@TeambossFloze said:
Well OP was make killers stronger to stop camping and tunnelling.
I just said they are making the killers stronger so your post is redundant - not really sure what you aren't getting buddy
Honestly, unless they rework and rewards Killers for chasing new survivors instead of focusing on one that got hooked this issue will never be fixed
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@TeambossFloze said:
killers are getting a massive buff over the next few patches - Post is redundant sorryThat has nothing to do with camping and tunneling through, Killers will still do it at high ranked cuz it's the only way they can win vs competent survivors. Sprint burst and DS were overpowered, DS especially if all 4 survivors have it
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@Brenon1106 said:
I don't use ruin i use fire up, remember me, unrelenting, and NOED.Ruin at Rank 15 or so is already overkill, they missed skill checks a lot and does not know how to loop, meaning you can down them in 10 seconds after the first hit, I have had a ton of games where I 4K everyone and all gens were still at 5, how is your rank now? You should play more and get to Rank 1 asap
NOED on those ranks are unnecessary, I never had a game where I had to use NOED since exit gates never get opened and I always 4K everyone before that, just shows how bad the survivors are at those ranks
Survivors at Ranked 1 will loop you at least for 1/2/3 minutes depending on the loop spot and the skills of the survivor, all those minutes means many gens will be lost and exit gates opened
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Killers don't camp and tunnel because they feel powerful. It's the only way you can win vs competent survivors at high ranked, doing so will safely guarantee you with at least 1/ 2 killers
While BBQ helps with less Camping yes, it's a trash perk for any killers that is not Nurse and Billy, killers without map wide control are bad with it. and will get looped to death even if you find a said survivor
It's toxic and something does need to be changed, but I doubt it, Devs will never work on a solution we all know it
If you do not tunnel and you chase/ go after other survivors, they will loop you for another 2-3 minutes, all gens will be done, everyone will escape. Killing one person makes the gen progress slower and you just have to since survivors have 3 lives
the first hook means you lost 1/2/3/4 gens depending on survivor skills, vs good SWF second hook gens should be completed/ 1 gen left. Hence why Killers camp
4 gens, in 3 minutes while Ruin active, no BMP only 1 uncommon toolbox used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh17g7TIhU0&t=13sThis shows what it's like on high ranked, a killer can only chase one person at a time, so you can't really put pressure on other survivors unless you play Nurse, Billy can somewhat but he's loopable
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@AshleyWB said:
Dbd needs a new system for banning and probably work more closely with sony and microsoft to put the bans in place.It's a big shame console can cheat all they want since none of them are bannable atm indeed
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Cheaters got banned, there were many evidence on youtube and I have seen a couple that got banned
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Disagree, having no problem with queue times here, if people want to play with new survivors they can easily derank themselves back to 20
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@AshleyWB said:
Good thinking actuallyI know its never going to happen, but if DBD strife to be a true horror game they really should do it, it would make the game much more thrilling and fun when playing as a Survivor, got to make use of sounds, killer's footstep and what not
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It's not a clickbait, it has some good mechanics that DBD could learn from it
Like the camera restrictions, playing survivors on this game is actually scary cuz you can't see things behind you. a true horror games
Dead by Daylight should have incorporated it from launch, it's such an amazing feature, the game is truly scary and thrilling
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Easy,
make camera restriction on survivors, like they did with the Souls at Stakes, so you can only see things in front of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xg4o6tv2LADBD will never be a horror game when you can move your camera around seeing what's behind you and what not
It would be a very thrilling experience for many survivors
as of now no one is afraid of the killers once they played 20 hours+
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Pig is sitll bad. I mean rules number 2 should not be an Ultra Rare Addon, it's garbage for what it does and should be part of her kit
It's really stupid how survivors see all auras of jigsaw at start. just so dumb
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stop spamming your thread about the nurse, you made like 2 threads the other day use that one instead
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They have to tunnel/camp at high rank or they lose the game
first hook 2 /3 gens done, second hook 1 gen left/ all gens done
3 minutes in, Ruin active, 4 gens done as seen in here, no hook yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh17g7TIhU0&t=13ssurvivors have 3 lives, if killer don't camp/tunnel at high rank how can they win? This needs reworked ofc, its toxic but they had no choice
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They have to tunnel at high rank or they lose the game
first hook 2 /3 gens done, second hook 1 gen left/ all gens done
3 minutes in, Ruin active, 4 gens done as seen in here, no hook yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh17g7TIhU0&t=13ssurvivors have 3 lives, if killer don't camp/tunnel at high rank how can they win? This needs reworked ofc, its toxic but they had no choice
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Just De-rank yourself back to 20, easiest solution right now
I don't enjoy playing Nurse as well but she's the only one viable at Rank 1, the fatigue system is what made me dislike about the Nurse
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Freddy only suffers at high ranked, any killers will do fine on Rank 15. Billy etc you can get survivors down very quickly, Freddy takes a long awhile and people don't know how to fight against them
On high ranked, people will find your ruin, in the act of cleansing it and you can only watch them doing so, you can't stop them. if you find people on gen you watch them finish a gen when it's near 90%
you watch people save from hook you can't do anything after the dude got rescued he will loops you for a good 1-2 minutes = exit gates opened. Borrowed time is extremely strong against Freddy as well
From Rank 20 - Rank 10, I have pretty much a 95% win rate unless it's against SWF groups
Get to high ranked and you will see why Freddy is in need of buffs, you are fighting against trash survivors no offense, in high ranked games by the time you hook the second person all gens should be done or only 1 gen left.
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the perk is fine now, it was broken before. After exit gates are opened?
get NOED, it's the only viable thing that can punish gen rushing right now. nothing you can do with 4 gens in 3 minutes, ruin active and no BNP/ 1 common toolbox
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@MrChills said:
There'snot many games like the Friday the 13tth and DBD. There's games that has tried white noise 2, and many more failures yet when "last year" comes out, I think ti will give DBD a run for it's money. plus, eventually DBD will be the king of this genre or a king will submerge sooner than we think.DBD is obviously a superior game, on this game they actually made the killer slower than the Survivors, but they can teleport to gens. The only downsides is that Survivors have infinite dead hards, meaning they can dodge every single of your hits, and if they are veterans who played DBD with over 2k hours they will never die unless they get bell'd
still if none of the survivors ever gets hit in a match the game is over for the killer, it needs some heavy polishing and more players
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It's a good idea, slugging everyone is the best way to derank as a killer since you'll lose a pip, watching them die with salt is glorious
this would help with speed deranking, perfect when playing as Nurse
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Don't compare Hag slow to his slow plz. Hag slow is the same as huntress and it removes her teleport. Waterlogged shoe is garbage and useless. Without teleport, Clown is significantly better, same with Trapper
he only need longer mist duration, block action for 3 seconds / bigger aoe that's it
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Sprint Burst, Self Care, Decisive Strike, Urban evasion is the best build to get you to Rank 1. If every survivor uses this build the win rate will skyrocket, and you'll be winning alot and wasting killer's time massively
Items bring toolbox + repair speed addons, if 4 of you have this you can repair gens insanely fast provided the killers don't dodge, it's a guaranteed win
As rank 1 you only need to know where to loop and where you can't. once you get spotted run to a loop spot for 2 rounds or so till killer is close, then you drop a pellet, run to the next and repeat. It's the same with how infinite works except pellets don't last forever and you have to keep watch of bloodlust
type Dead by Daylight looping and see for the guides yourself
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I agree
Waterlogged shoe even after the buff it's still useless. The slow only last 2 seconds and it's not a 40% speed reduction like Clown. Huntress can have 45 seconds slow with just one hit. Combined with that and using this addon's removes the ability for Hag to teleport is just extremely bad
Hag without teleport = worst version of trapper and even slower. and her traps don't last forever
I can't believe the Devs cannot see why this addon is so useless, did they even try to use it?
combined it with the scarred hand? oh please, it limits your playstyle too much and again Trapper will be doing a better job at it after post-buff than a hag without teleport. Teleport is her only main advantage and she's slow. how will 0.1 increase movement speed gonna help her with that?
If Hag can still teleport after using this addon, it would be a good addon and not overpowered. Removing her ability to teleport is just dumb and threw the balance out of the window
The addon changes for the higher tier ones are still as bad. Rusty Shackles, Granma's Heart and Disfigured Ear is still as useless as always. and the changes they did with Waterlogged Shoe is just lazy. If they want to make a Killer viable they can't be just half-arse on this
Mint Tint could get some love with shorter cooldowns, it's an ultra rare and it's not as broken as nurse since you need to set the trap in the first place
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@Jack11803 said:
Feng Min feels personally attacked nowIt kinda sucks that all characters are Chinese, no whites, black, hispanic etc. One of the things i like on this game is the camera restriction when you do gens, so it's actually scary since you cannot see the killer from behind, same with healing etc
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I wouldn't call it a complete rip off, yes DBD inspired it very clearly but it's gameplay mechanics are not the same, since they deal with cards to seal the demon which permanently kills him
and it also has Asian Characters so...
nevertheless the Devs could learn something from playing this game, the gen rushing thing counter is really good as you have said
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@Hillbilly420 said:
Simple: if you hit them directly with the tonic that stops them from performing actions for 2-3 seconds.Done. Now he stops the god damn looping.
Very good idea, it will make him similar to Doctor, a minor buff that's all he needs
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He really only needs increased duration on gas to stop people from looping, and bigger aoe. AOE is bugged atm, you can be inside the mist and not be affected by intoxication, if you played alot vs Clowns you will notice this happens from time to time
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They just need to revert the changes to Whisper and kept it at 32 Meters, no need for rework or anything
At the current state they are nerfing and making it 48 meters on the last survivor
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@cTrix said:
Fallacy:
Just because the trash killers are trash doesn't mean Nurse isn't op
Yes and that means someone who is trash at playing killer and refused to play the Nurse doesn't mean that Nurse is OP
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@only1biggs said:
This isn't 2.0 so it's invalid. This is also the 2nd time I have seen you post a video of Tru who is not a good killer and moans constantly when he makes mistakes. I guarantee that if HE suggested removing bloodlust, you'd be all over his nuts and agree, crying it from the rooftops.
You just embarrassed yourself, well done.
It's valid due to the fact that without bloodlust you can make this an infinite, and doing it in the same current version, I could make a video on this but it's pointless arguing with people like you since you would come up with some other BS excuse, and you call yourself a Killer main without knowing this.
Sorry but your the one embarrassing yourself, for calling out Tru, not a good killer, he is one of the best, in terms of hearing, finding and spotting survivors, with over 2k hours playing daily.
you're just some biased troll so I'm done talking with ya
good luck trying to get the devs on removing bloodlust cuz it's never going to happen unless all loopers are gone from the game
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She's weak, tunnel? Are you serious?
Wraith is the best killer for tunneling, use the 12m-addon and you can find survivors in no time, he also have bloodhound build into his kit so it's near impossible to lose a survivor, best killer for camping for sure
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@Peanits said:
Intentionally deranking: Yes, it is bannable (WITH A HUGE ASTERISK, READ ON). If your are intentionally dying in your games to lower your rank, you are hurting the other people in the game by ruining their experience and making it tougher on them. Though these days it's much easier to do something and still derank, so you could still do something to help the team and derank in the end if you really want.Only for survivors, it would be a bannable offense, I would correct that statement on your post. De-ranking as Killers is not a bannable offense, BHVR_Crow confirmed this a long time ago on Launch
Anyone can do this easily by just slugging all survivors and leaves them for dead, they might report you for griefing but it's not bannable in any way since slugging is legit
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@WalterWh1te said:
With the recent changes to the pallet mechanic and the upcoming mechanics to exhaustion in DO NOT see any justification for Bloodlust still being in this game.Killers shouldn't be forced to use Bamboozle to deal with infinite and loops, it's a poor game design and limits playstyle too much, the devs have proven to be ineffective at fixing infinite when I posted all sorts of videos about them. It took them over a year to fix them. They only fixed a bunch but not all with adding new maps, do you think they will be willing to go through all the hassle just to fix them to get rid of bloodlust?
in 3 minutes in high ranked games, all 4 gens can be done, as it is shown in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh17g7TIhU0@only1biggs said:
Hello, yes I agree with you because it boosts inexperienced killers to higher ranks when they should've been in their respective rank.
Is there a cap to be reached? I presume you lose the speed when dropping a chase?
More often than not when a survivor activates sprint burst despite the killer being behind them the chase will end, and their bloodlust will go away, same can be said for when killers are breaking a pellet
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@only1biggs said:
Based on what you have said here and your other posts, you don't seem to grasp that the killer making a choice to chase a survivor around one of the structures you mentioned, IS A MISTAKE.
Yes, many of the maps are poorly designed with certain tiles being ridiculous, but why should a stupid killer be rewarded with a speed boost (which is a massive game changer in this game for both sides) for making a mistake or a bad play?If you think that's fine then that's no different than asking the Devs to bring back infinite, aka safe spots. A killer is not supposed to go after them sounds legit right? back then when killers chase a survivor all you got to do is sprint burst back to infinite, then he gives up, he chases some other guy, he does the same rinse and repeat
Here is a video of me going against Tru, I could have gone for hours on this permanently but I stopped since I was just showing how broken infinite is, you really think such things are fine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsie4pHH99Ethe updated stone circle is no different, you can infinite with it if the killer does not have bloodlust, and the entity will not block the window due to it being more than a 12-or so seconds run, this applies to many places as well
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@Tsulan said:
I´ll never understand why survivors complain about BBQ.
Sorry, i can´t take anyone serious who complains about BBQ.That's why I don't ever use it, using it without being Billy and Nurse is pointless, when you get there, you chase that survivor and he will loop you for x minutes, the other guy gets off the hook and 1-2 gens done, rinse and repeat u will end up with no kills. you are better off just camping at high ranks
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It's trash on Ranked 1 games, it's only good if you are playing map control killers like Nurse or Billy. Even if you find other survivors as other killers u can be looped
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@cTrix said:
If you're playing this game at high rank you're doing it wrong. This game is balanced so badly and the devs are so trash, you will never get a competitive game. The only thing this game is good for is casual level 15 games where you run around and meme and don't give a [BAD WORD] if you die or whatever.Sorry to break it to y'all but you should save yourself the salt and just move on to a better game.
There's a thing called De-rank I'm sure some of us would stick to Rank 20s forever, no need to suffer
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@cTrix said:
The only people who argue that nurse isn't broken are people who want to keep abusing her. Maybe you should get good on a different killer instead of telling people to play around your broken playstyle.Try the other killers that isn't Huntress, Billy, Nurse and Clown and tell us your experience at Rank 1 after 10 games on a different killer
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@Absolute_Zero said:
"now Macro for Flash-lights, they still have said nothing on this" (from someissues)
if you mean the flashspam macro used to crash the killers pc, im pretty sure this falls under exploits. but once again, it's a "MAYBE".Nah not the crash, it's the machine-gun Flash-light where they can make you blind for an infinite duration unless you turn 360 or the other way around. Very overpowered and consumes less battery
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Derank is not bannable, back on launch I asked one of the Devs straight as friends on steam when reporting cheaters and they responded with No it's not a bannable offense but would encourage not to do it
now Macro for Flash-lights, they still have said nothing on this
Farm Bot is still bannable, it's even listed on their FAQ on steam come on
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@Might_Oakk said:
It was a very bad killer...He literally chased in treatment mode. He didn't swap to punishment to get close then switch lol.
The killer can't basically be brain dead then complain.
He's brain-dead for sure, but that's not the issue here nor the loops. The loops are very strong, however, the issue is the gen time. Ruin was active for the whole time, and for 3 minutes all 4 gens are done and only one toolbox used, no BNP. the reason he chases him is that Ruined totem is there
@Snapshot said:
Yes, this undoubtadly is an issue.
And people saying "i dont use ruin and i usually get 4 kills" are imo ignorant to the biggest balance issue this game has. Either they play against low-ranks or are rambo himself.
Time is clearly not in the killer's favour and the whole community complains about it. When playing against a decent Survive with friends group (2-3 people swf are enough), there is not much even a very good killer can do (really the only one surivors have to fear is nurse, and she is the hardest killer to play). Items and add-ons further shift the balance towards the survivors.
Gens need to get a repair-time increase of AT LEAST 15-20 seconds at higher ranks (>=5). There should not be anything like a "safe pallet" in the game. Pallets should be drop-and-forget. Most killers should not be dependent on ultra-rare or rare addons to somewhat viable to play (huntress, hillbilly, leatherface, doc, wraith, freddy, pig, trapper, clown, hag,... literally everyone except nurse. Totem placement needs a complete rework (spawning on top of a hill? spawning completely in the open? making fire-crackling noise like a big campfire?)This guy got my point
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I am in line with you OP. As a survivor on Rank 1 you only get Nurse, nurse, nurse, huntress, and Billy. Honestly, it's boring and there is no variety. Glad to see there aren't that many biased survivor mains here
Other killers are just too weak to compete in Rank 1 matches, yes you can still do well with them but compared to the top 3 the statistics will show that they are doing better
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@Khroalthemadbomber said:
Not an excuse. I attempted to take on one of these people survivors and didn't leave the lobby before the match started. The person in question teleported everywhere and I couldn't lay a finger on them each time I attempted to put chase.I tested with 800 ping, there are no such things as teleports for survivors. They move at random speed but its tremendously slower than a normal survivor with good ping. If anything a survivor with good ping used a much harder challenge than someone with 800 ping
If people want to use such thing as excuse go derank yourself to 20 and rekt noobs
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@Lowbei said:
often killers who use ruin, camp their perk, and end up letting survivors do gens thru the perk.While that's true, during those 3 minutes Ruined was active, and survivors still blow through 4 gens treating as if its nothing, do you still think this is fine?
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@Lowbei said:
i dont use ruin and i usually get 4 killsits not required. it is good tho.
Again this heavily depends on survivor's skill level and RNG. I can get 4 man as Wraith / Freddy on Rank 1 too, doesn't mean they are fine
The dude in the video uses Ruined btw, and 4 gens in 3 minutes
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@Lowbei said:
and?Ruin is in every build because it's the only way killers can hope to prevent the gens from all being done in 4 minutes. It is actually quite a garbage perk that relies on luck for Survivors to get the skill checks, is a totem, and relies on Survivors being bad at skill checks.
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@HookedonDemand said:
I think true even states in the video how the killer shouldn't have followed him into that loop and stay there forever. So there is more to it than just "them evil survivors use the stuff in the game".Isn't it the same as Infinite. Back then people were saying killers shouldn't chase a survivor when they are in an infinite spot, anyhow it's not about that. It's about how gens are done at this level of high rank this fast. Only 1 common toolbox use no BNP whatsoever
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@Khroalthemadbomber said:
My one issue with this has been I sometimes have survivors in my lobby with 600-800 ping for whatever reason and they ready up. I'm not dealing with someone that's lagging that bad so I'll leave before the match starts and try and get people with better connections. Furthermore, after about the fifth or sixth survivor dodge of my lobby I sometimes have difficulty getting new survivors to connect so I need to reset my lobby by leaving it.I would appreciate it if people would stop making excuse with survivors with 600-800 ping, with 2.7k hours the max i saw was someone with 400, anything above that you are clearly lying. China/ Japan players get close to 300 ping from where I live in the UK, whereas it's 100-130 for US players. 600-800 is impossible with world's distance, even so, they are easy. Someone could be consistent with over 800 ping but they are either downloading stuff or uploading, and they are rare in lobbies. This does not happen often
Stop trying to defend it by saying high ping survivors, it's all excuse we all know it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTdgaBdgLI