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@terumisan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441342#Comment_1441342
I feel like you didn't read my wall of text but ok. I look at both sides and most conservatives these days are pandering to the Democratic base to get their vote I don't see much of shock the gay out like 10 years ago and marriage equality I already went over
You don't see the torture because you choose not to. Look up how many torture camps still exist. I won't discuss USA politics because it's not my country, but I will say I've yet to see a single conservative in the USA try to appeal to Democrats.
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@terumisan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441300#Comment_1441300
If you want to be honest the L in LGBT shouldn't exist because lesbians also refer to themselves as gay bisexual people ultimately choose a side at the end of the day it's just that they are unsure and trans is a can of worms that I won't bother explaining
Also marriage wasn't apart of the government but apart of the church which was a blatant overreach and violation in America between the separation between church and state then after gay marriage was announced gay couples went after Christian bakers for not serving them
Politicians won't pander to gay people because they are only 5% of the population they wouldn't gain much by pandering after gay marriage was approved
I'm bisexual and the notion that bisexuals "choose a side" or "are unsure" is absurd. I'm in a homosexual relationship but I'm still attracted to both men and women. Your idea is like saying that if you eat pasta once, you're not allowed to like any other kind of food, ever.
Marriage was always a legal contract, the church was just the main political power way back when. It still is, in many ways.
You do know that it's not just LGBT who care about marriage equality, right? It is possible to care about a group of people different than your own.
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@terumisan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441281#Comment_1441281
In western countries not really Also I what I meant was straight people are the vassst majority and how old is the legion group because I thought they were all teenagers and I wouldn't think they would have a kid that young also with nurse her husband is irrelevant but didn't he die like midway in her career then she overworked went insane and died it would be a way darker story if she did have a child so I'm glad she didn't and oni cared more about honor than having a family and went down the path of a demon then disappeared
It's more of adding LGBT themes makes no sense in a game where people are getting slaughtered on meat hooks and being chased by an insane killer powered by a God of madness
Serious question: do you just not look at what politicians do in western countries, particularly conservative politicians? It's always anti-LGBT legislation like voting against marriage equality, against adoption, in favor of torture (which they whitewash by calling it "conversion therapy", kinda like how going to war is "anxiety therapy"), and so on.
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@terumisan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441242#Comment_1441242
I mean straight people in media exists because biology propels humanity forward
And for your second point gay people aren't second class citizens at least in western countries and there is no real visual indicator to tell a person is gay or not it's 100% on that person to tell people because there isn't a way to really know
Straight people in media exist because it's pandering to them.
There's still a ton of discrimination against LGBT people (note the letters other than "G"), like prominent politicians and whole parties who're against marriage equality, for example.
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@terumisan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441203#Comment_1441203
Is the LGBT community trying to be normal or pandered to because you can't have both
Is the LGBT community trying to be normal or pandered to because you can't have both
Non-LGBT get to have it both ways, so why not?
Also to answer your question no one should care that's what makes it normal but when it's constantly brought up in your face to the point where there is a month dedicated to it there will be push back
In my experience, there are always people pushing back and they claim that if "the gays" were just "quiet" that everything would be fine and nobody would bother them, because that's how it worked for every other marginalized group, they just sat quietly and weren't burned at the stake, raped, or tortured to death.
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@Victor_hensley said:
Please just for me. Please just put a space after the comma.
Thank you, now I can't unsee it.
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@terumisan said:
It's because they think companies pandering to them means they care
So who does care? The people who don't want our existence to be mentioned anywhere because it's "political" and "forced" while theirs is perfectly fine?
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@EverflowingRiver said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1441056#Comment_1441056
It's not fake news. Protestors said one thing, she said another, minutes later she is shot. But you ignored my overall point.
And again, those camps are run by detestable individuals and the parents who send their kids to such camps have questionable views as well. But when the APA and past surgeon generals and other US officials condemn conversion therapy, you can't go saying the system promotes unequal treatment. If a private company wants to try conversion therapy they are legally allowed to do.
Everyone is quick to point to individual examples of discrimination by one person or one private group as evidence of systemic discrimination (at least in the US they do) but they ignore the fact that the Constitution exists and the government 99% of the time opposes such discrimination. In a country of 325ish million people, some will not like other for arbitrary reasons.
You're just missing the part where her husband brandished a firearm first and the fact that she was shot had nothing to do with her chanting the dismissive slogan.
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@SMitchell8 said:
They should just leave politics, sexual orientation and beliefs out of the game. We all play the game and love the game. The politics ain't needed
You're several years too late to complain about sexual orientations being in the game. Now the question is just whether LGBT characters get the same treatment as non-LGBT ones.
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@JustZed32 said:
Adding lgbt to the game brings not that much happiness as it would bring hate. Tell me if im wrong
It's impossible to prove one way or another without a lot more information, but let's assume you're right for the sake of argument. Should we really acquiesce to people like that?
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@EverflowingRiver said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440503#Comment_1440503
By that token I could say Jewish people are treated unequally in the US because a major football star tweeted anti-Semitic messages with no significant opposition. Or I could make the huge leap of bringing up the white woman killed in Indiana for saying all lives matter. Or the white motorcyclist who was intentionally killed by a man for being white(the offender stated that was his sole motivation). Bad people exists, it does not mean the system is bad. I'm not going to say they system is against whites because some white people got killed.
Or I could make the huge leap of bringing up the white woman killed in Indiana for saying all lives matter.
Just for the record, that's fake news. That's not why she was shot and, in fact, she was shot a while after the confrontation with her saying that dismissive slogan.
So how do you explain the torture camps? They may not be part of "the system" (although I have my doubts that certain politicians aren't actively looking away from the problem and receiving a little money under the table), but there's no equal protection there. If I opened a torture camp for heterosexuals with the intent of "curing" them of their heterosexuality and had parents send me their heterosexual children to torture while calling it "therapy", it'd be shut down faster than you can blink and I would be arrested. LGBT don't have that, the torture camps have to be legislated as being illegal even though torture is already so.
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If they released a flamethrower or flame-related powers for either side, I would play that side exclusively until the day either I or the game died.
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@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439227#Comment_1439227
Do you want me to list names now or what? Freaking hell some people.
No, I want you to be more specific about who you mean, because, as I mentioned, I've seen about the same complaints about Hillbilly as I have about keys and moris. You're trying to make it look like the devs didn't listen to what people have been saying for four years.
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@hillbillyclaudmain69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1436530#Comment_1436530
That add-on is bugged. It still shows her scratch marks.
It shows her scratch marks created prior to her using her power, yes. It doesn't show her new ones. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440405#Comment_1440405
And for the umpteenth time, my opinion is they shouldn't have done that in the first place, so I don't want them to continue. It's literally that simple. It's not about treating everyone the same. It's not about not representing anyone, it's just about my opinion that they shouldn't have done it in the first place and shouldn't continue.
Hell focusing on xxx survivor doing some human thing to show how human they are is mediocre lore considering this is a game with magical killers and Eldrich gods. Cut down the lore and focus on those aspects.
If they stop now, it's the same as giving preferential treatment to non-LGBT. They can't take back the non-LGBT lore.
Also, they're still expanding the mythology behind the Entity, etc.. You'd know that if you'd read the lore.
@Peace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440355#Comment_1440355
In the western world, LGBT are treated the same. So why the fight? Thats what i cant understand, of course there will always be idiots that reduce someone to gender/colour, but those arent always just white straight men. Also, we should fight together to give this freedom to people that live at places where they get punished or murdered for just being themselves. Not seperating people in countries where it is already normal. (I am fully aware that it is just a small percentage of this movement, but sadly they cry out the loudest and just a few people inside of this movement stand against this behaviour.)
I wouldnt mind any LGBT tyed stuff in the lore, if it is implemented good and naturally.
A funny way would be some survs as the opposite gender, like a lesbian version of David that beats the crap out of you.
A trans woman was shot just a few days ago for being trans in the USA, what are you talking about? There are still torture camps where LGBT people are sent by their "loving" parents to torture "the gay" out of them.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440393#Comment_1440393
I would have liked to keep everyone vague. I said I'd rather they just add new characters who are LGBT than add to old, obviously it's too late for them. Hell I literally said idm if they make a bunch of LGBT characters in a row.
BT is just there to stop everyone from tunneling the GL. (/s because I know it's needed for this joke)
For the umpteenth time, that ship has sailed. Everyone gets the same treatment, and that means lore expansions that may or may not include relationships for everyone.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440355#Comment_1440355
Im well aware LGBT isn't just about gay men. When I said gay I just meant homosexual.
So why not leave the mystery of which character is LGBT so people get to keep their toons headcanon nicely, and make new LGBT characters? They don't even have to wait, they did like 3 original survivors in a row that were all variations on self-reliant woman, so they can easily do 3 different survivors who happen to be LGBT.
BT: Are we a joke to you?
Why leave the mystery when they didn't do the same for heterosexuals? Equal treatment.
@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440341#Comment_1440341
Well gee, maybe it lets people white knight for them without actually having to do anything.
Alright, have a nice day.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440341#Comment_1440341
Then make a new character who's gay, it isn't difficult. My argument is based on the fact that people are attached to their toons, and letting them have more say over their toon is better.
They already have a character who is LGBT (note the other letters, LGBT isn't just about gay men) and they deserve the same treatment as heterosexuals got. Let's not pretend headcanons/fan fictions are affected by canon.
@Peace said:
I think on company sides its almost 99% for profits.
Its another thing what every employe thinks individualy.
On my side, i think the whole gender discussion and especially BLM are overhyped and are already just used by some people to gather attention or make excuses for their own misbehaviour.
In my opinion, everyone should be threated the same and sexual orientation or ethnic shouldnt matter at all. Just this whole blown up discussion is seperating people already, and this is what makes me feel uncomfortable about it, especially when looking at the lootings and protests in the usa.
That's what LGBT people have been asking, to be treated the same. If this was about non-LGBT lore, nobody would've made this many threads. There was no opposition to the rifts in regards to their expansion of the lore, as far as I know, it was all about the battle pass-like system. Why doesn't LGBT lore get the same treatment?
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@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440322#Comment_1440322
It never was restricted. Like you said, there are gay characters. What you're advocating for is taking characters after the fact and tacking on sexualities because it's the hip new thing on the internet.
They were restricting themselves. Note the "self-" in "self-censor". You can claim it's taking characters after the fact, but if that were so, why would they announce that one character they'd released was LGBT and then do nothing with it for over a year?
@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440322#Comment_1440322
That's the thing though, they don't need to restrict it to hetero stuff. Just make it vague; call bf/gfs SOs or lovers etc. The beauty of the og 4 is that you *don't* know which is the LGBT one, so you can comfortably just identify with the one you want to be LGBT, and not have the Devs say 'ummm ackchually xxx is the gay one, you're canonically wrong.'
It'd also stop pretentious fights over ######### character sexuality on a bloody video game forum.
They were already explicit about heterosexuals. That ship has sailed. There is absolutely no reason not to give LGBT characters the same treatment.
You know what else would stop these fights? People giving LGBT lore the same treatment as non-LGBT lore; that is, pay no attention to it whatsoever.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440295#Comment_1440295
I did oppose the rift; imo BHVR should have focused on literally anything else to make the game healthier, rather than confine themselves to constant battle-pass and (insert completely ignored mechanic here). Imagine if they devoted their battlepass guys to basic number changes to mess with the meta, the game would actually change and you wouldn't see the same 6 perks every game.
My apologies for assuming, then. However, that doesn't change the fact that that ship has sailed. There's no reason for them to self-censor and restrict it to heterosexual characters and relationships.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440273#Comment_1440273
I don't want their personalities expanded on, idm if their lore expands in the sense of what they did in life that got them there. Basically I just want them vague enough that anyone can self insert with any of the survivors. Just using vague pronouns and understandable emotional reactions is enough.
Man I just want my vague template to remain vague and template-y.
Like I said, it's unfortunate you didn't oppose the creation of the Rifts, because now that ship has sailed.
You can always self-insert anyway, it's not like having a well-established lore deters headcanons/fan fictions.
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@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1440273#Comment_1440273
No. Because there are plenty of characters who could be gay, and that was always a good thing. The fact that the devs feel the need to make a pandering twitter update to say "we're going to be more blatant about it" is a bad thing.
Yes, plenty of characters who could be gay, but we're talking about LGBT as a whole, not just G. Moving on, I say "at least one" because the devs confirmed that a while ago, when we had fewer characters, and I don't know if they've released more LGBT characters since.
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@SaltedSnow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437840#Comment_1437840
I ain't the same dude, but IMO I don't want the characters already released to be changed, I'd prefer them all to remain rather ambiguous in regards to their personality itself so that any personality we've projected onto them feels good.
If they add a new dude and make them gay/bi/whatever that's fine, but leave the older characters as they are.
No characters are going to be changed, their lore is going to be expanded. We know for a fact that at least one of them is LGBT, according to the devs. It's unfortunate that you didn't oppose the creation of the Rifts, which expand the lore for already-released characters, because now there's no reason to keep doing it.
@anarchy753 said:
I'm gay and I firmly don't believe that sexual orientation should be focused on in a game like this. It is scarecely relevant, and I had a whole lot more respect for their previous decision that orientation wouldn't be addressed for the vast majority of characters so it's up to the player to decide and who to relate to. You're running around hacking people apart and hanging them on meathooks, who they want to sleep with isn't relevant.
Personally, I find it hard to be optomistic about them discussing sexuality in character lore for a number of reasons.
Firstly, they lack subtlety in a lot of cases. The biggest example for me is Zarina. In creating a "race-positive" character, they created a character whose entire personality and backstory is just her race. Race is important but like anything else, completely dominating a character's entire personality with one detail is shallow and to a degree, insulting to people who care about that detail in themselves.
Secondly, the current events surrounding the LGBT community and "gender identity" have left a lot of the community split, flinging insults, and creating toxic, destructive movements across many forms of social media. This is not the time to hedge your bets on an LGBT character. One wrong word and the company can very quickly get labelled as "phobic," exploitative of the movement etc.
Lastly, we so often get represented by a barrage of stereotypes in media. For what is meant to be a time where we're most accepted and 'normal,' we're constantly dragged back to these parodies of the feminine guy who likes make up or drag, and clubbing. It doesn't represent a huge amount of us, and for many these sorts of representations aren't any better than putting in racial stereotypes and saying "you should just be glad to be represented at all." As I've said above, they don't have a great track record of subtlety, and I'm skeptical that they can create characters that are LGBT without it being their personality.
At least one of the characters already in the roster is LGBT, according to the devs. Does that assuage your fears?
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@Endstille said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439227#Comment_1439227
Compare that to the amount of threads about moris / keys , noed, freddy and spirit threads.
About the same, TBH. That still doesn't answer the question of who "we" are supposed to be.
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@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439054#Comment_1439054
Not you apparently.
Why won't you answer the question? Who's "we"? The way you said it makes it seem like the devs are actively doing things nobody wants, even though the literal hundreds (most likely close to a thousand) of "nerf Hillbilly" threads everyone who's been on the Steam forum and this forum has seen over the years prove otherwise.
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@deadbydevelight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439143#Comment_1439143
its not a problem , and no one asked for nurses sexual orientation lol simply just trying to understand why lol whys it so necessary
Nobody asked for this either, so why does it have to be "necessary" all of a sudden when it didn't need any justification for the past 4 years?
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@deadbydevelight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439136#Comment_1439136
sure? i still don't see the point
The point is that that ship sailed long ago and nobody had any problems with it until now.
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@deadbydevelight said:
i just dont see how defining a characters sexuality has anything to do with horror... like what
You're several years too late to object to that, the Nurse's husband is quite explicitly mentioned in her lore.
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@JimPickens said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439102#Comment_1439102
Skip to about 3 minutes in and listen for a few seconds. Because of gamer issues I'll leave it at that since this forum and sadly game is filled with gamers who probably wouldn't like me saying that lol
Or don't, it actually doesn't matter since unbeknownst to you we're on the same page. See that's what happens when you argue with hateful people in the internet, if you start firing at random you'll hit the people closest not the ones who deserve ig. And make no mistake this forum post says "why do the devs care about gays?" i don't think you'll be changing any hearts or minds here
I made no assumptions about your stance, I just don't like it when people put in barely any effort to have a conversation and expect others to put in more effort than they're willing to. I would've reacted in the same manner even if you had explicitly agreed with me.
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@JimPickens said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439031#Comment_1439031
Gamer issues aren't about gameplay they're....people get really sensitive so I'll explain in a song.
This about sums it up lol
Yeah, I'm not listening to that. You can put in a little effort and write what you want to say.
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@Booper_Of_Snoot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439031#Comment_1439031
Forums isn't social media.
All month they promoted LGBTQ streamers, flaunted the LGBTQ profile pic, and even did the whole "We ShOuLd MaKe SeXuAlItY mOrE dEfInEd"
And they took it off once the month was done, like every company.
Hm.
Sounds alot like what every other company does.
I see individuals do that all the time as well, the same way I see them buying Christmas presents and Mother's Day gifts at the appropriate times of the year. I don't see Christmas ads in July for the same reason I don't Valentine's Day ads in September - it's not the proper time of the year. Why is the idea of fixed dates for specific things such an issue for you?
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Who's "we"?
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@JimPickens said:
This is horror please leave your gamer issues in COD
What gamer issues? We're not discussing gameplay here.
@Booper_Of_Snoot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1355496#Comment_1355496
Profit.
Like every company come pride month.
So why didn't they advertise it more? They put out one tweet and that was it. Why not really cash in on it with a forum announcement, for example?
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@Rey_512 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438900#Comment_1438900
I’m not denying that happened, but I’m not a part of that group. I don’t even know who the existing gay character is or that it was hinted at, because the lore doesn’t matter to me enough to notice every detail.
The post I responded to in your quote of me seems like an outcry - saying we ALL should be pushing for something.
You were referring to outcry over not having explicitly LGBT characters in the game, which that person was not complaining about. Their complaint was about you.
I'll repeat myself ad nauseam if I must, until it really sinks in: there was no outcry about the lack of LGBT characters in the game. The only outcry came from people who don't want explicitly LGBT characters in the game.
So since you said this:
I don’t have a problem what gets added, just the unnecessary outcry if it doesn’t.
you must have no issue with anything that's actually happened.
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@Deathslinger said:
None of you are seeing the real issue here. If they start labeling and putting everyone into boxes then it’s going to seriously effect my DbD Porn. It’s bad enough that gave everyone a skin color, so I can’t enjoy Asian Claudette or Black Bill but now you want to identify them gender and sexually!? The F-! Pretty soon they will stop putting a dick on every girl and only pair up people that fit into a lame ass back story.
I blame the alphabet people.
This is why I started a movement that aims to make all characters be shapeless, transparent blobs and all maps be empty voids. No more skin tones (or even skin), no more species, no more cultural depictions.
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@Rey_512 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438216#Comment_1438216
This is why I can’t take some of you seriously... resorting to name calling to try and act like your opinion or thought process is superior to someone else’s.
And NO, not everyone needs to push for a “marginalized group” to be added to the game. IT’S A VIDEO GAME. Lore adds no value to the gameplay itself. You’re making this seem like if DBD doesn’t add an openly gay character then that group is being “oppressed “. Reality check, the game would continue just fine because DBD is about 4 survivors trying to escape a bloodthirsty killer, not to push agendas.
You can assume what you want of me - I’ve already said I don’t have a problem what gets added, just the unnecessary outcry if it doesn’t.
The outcry came from people who don't want it, why are you ignoring that? There was no outcry to out the already-present LGBT characters. Mathieu had one conversation with one dude and that was it. Meanwhile, dozens of threads were opened from the people who're against the idea, usually with "unsavory" comments sprinkled in, yet nobody ever acknowledges that. I'll say again: the outcry came from people who don't want the devs to out already-present LGBT characters, not due to the lack of confirmation of which characters are LGBT and which aren't.
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Because they still had to license something; specifically, the look.
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@Lx_malice said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438427#Comment_1438427
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438436#Comment_1438436
Emerald was the best main storyline game. There was soo much to do in that game it was amazing. Great story, tons of legedaries to catch, and the battle frontier.
But yea I still believe Colosseum an XD are the best pokemon games of all time. It's sad how Sw and Sh 16 years later can't even live up to Colosseum. I wish they'd remake Colosseum and XD so I'd have a reason to buy a switch instead of some half baked garbage that can't even compare to those games. I'll just leave this here:
I think the best side game was Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky.
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@Wylesong said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438427#Comment_1438427
If Emerald was the third game in the Ruby and Sapphire series then I agree! That generation was my favorite!
Indeed.
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@Frareid88 said:
Why not have Peter pan and captain hook, aladin and jafar, heck let's go all out and have scar and simba
Why not indeed?
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We demand answers, devs! This is the worst nerf in DbD history since the gateaus went from a full cake to just a slice.
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@Lx_malice said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438323#Comment_1438323
Black and White the best pokemon games? Uhh idk about that. I like to think that Pokemon Colosseum and XD are the best games. Colosseum came out in 2003 on gamecube and still looks and plays better than Sw and Sh. If you haven't played these games I highly recommend you do and let me know if you still hold the same opinion.
Emerald was the best main game. Fight me.
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@PassarinoT said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438338#Comment_1438338
Nobody on the forums can take anything seriously, huh? Jesus, this is why this game is still a fiasco, nobody in the game can ever be good enough to realize that their favorite killer is overpowered and unbalanced.
Yes, a fiasco that keeps growing.
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Only if it's Blaziken, objectively the best Pokémon in the universe.
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@Halun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1438002#Comment_1438002
Honestly? That's why I don't care very much...
I'm only vaguely interested in lore, and I don't see an issue with characters being LGBT. I just don't like when it's the sole focus of an entire character's being. So it's more about whether they can write compelling characters lol.
If they're gonna work towards this, I just hope they can maintain the balance of representation, while keeping real-world stuff from becoming overbearing for the people who just want to play a multiplayer horror game. That balance seems to be difficult for many studios...
Fortunately, the devs have already given us an answer to that question, in a way. One of the characters already present in the roster is LGBT. Can you guess which one?
PS: Nobody likes one-dimensional characters, whatever their trait may be. I don't understand why this is brought up so often when it comes to LGBT characters when nobody likes those characters. However, we have had one-dimensional characters brought to DbD before and nobody raised any issues...
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@Rey_512 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437945#Comment_1437945
He asked the question “What do you think guys, why LGBT is so important for the devs...?”
I just replying that I don’t think they have a personal investment in pushing an LGBT agenda, just that they can make money off of a demographic so of course it’s important in that sense.
There is no agenda being pushed, just more lore being added with fewer self-imposed restrictions.
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@Morfedel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437840#Comment_1437840
I forgot about nurse's history and I didnt know about frank and julie; but even then, thats a fairly small number considering the number of characters in the game.
And really, people, I think its called "shipping" others, fans fabricating relationships between characters, irritate me. A horror survival game seems like a place where focusing on relationships isn't really important one way or the other.
But I dont know. I dont really care one way or the other either, it just seems strange to me.
I find it much stranger that people who don't even read or care about the lore are so up in arms about something that will be put in the lore that they claim not to care about nor read. For the record, I'm not talking about you, since you seem pretty chill about this.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437892#Comment_1437892
People wouldn’t run perks like BT and DS so much if tunneling and camping wasn’t such a big issue.
lol, yes they would. DS alone allows them to make plays they wouldn't otherwise be able to make, like forcing the killer to grab them.
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437844#Comment_1437844
I don't see a problem with letting all the hook related perks work with cages. Hell if you made the aura from Bbq trigger 40 meters from where the survivor goes into a cage PH could probably begin a new chase almost immediately.
And therein lies the problem, he'd be able to see every survivor around him.
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@EverflowingRiver said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1437932#Comment_1437932
And risk getting flagged. I don't think they would
I know they would because I've seen it happen.