OrangeBear

I don't know what he needs but he's really not very good. Survivors can waste a lot of his time by just holding W because of the 3rd health state. He's overall pretty slow and very punishing when you miss. Tentacle hitbox is not the most intuitive thing. Zombie is also not reliable but it probably never will be so it just can't be relied on.

At the least i would say he needs an add-on pass, since marvins blood and licker tounge seem to be uncontested best combo for him. Marvins blood actually always been his best add-on even though it's been nerfed multiple times.

in Do you guys think nemesis needs anything else or is he good the way he is rn Comment by OrangeBear February 16, 2025

True, the tutorial is pretty bad. I recommend all new players to learn from content creators. With that in mind i wonder if they could collaborate with consultants to create new tutorials.

in Can DBD Tutorials Get a Rework Already Comment by OrangeBear February 15, 2025

Mandy did say the next one is in February so any day now i suppose.

in When will we see the next roadmap release for the next couple months Comment by OrangeBear February 14, 2025

@sizzlingmario4 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883646#Comment_3883646
It's also bad against Xeno because they don't disturb crows in Crawler Mode.
I would say the best killer to use this perk against is probably Slinger, because every time he fires his speargun it scares every crow within 24 meters and that counts for the perk. It's still not great, but better than average.

Wow, didn't know that : 0

in Do people use this? Comment by OrangeBear February 12, 2025

Nah it's really bad. It's hard to even notice the effect. Also won't work on stealth killers due to lack of terror radius.

in Do people use this? Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

@GuineaGamer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883591#Comment_3883591
I am not asking for a discussion? It is a statement? Maybe you should ask yourself why? Or ask yourself why not? Only you can answer that question. Statements don't need discussions. Everything doesn't need a response.

You opened a Discussion, on a Forum and i made a Comment.

If you're here to make statements then you don't even need to respond to my comments.

I really don't appreciate your dismissive attitude.

in 2v8 is GREAT! Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

@GuineaGamer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883584#Comment_3883584
You ok there? Why would I need to explain anything to you? It's a statement. It doesn't need explaining. Pretty cut and dry. LOL!

Because the discussion isn't going to be constructive if you don't try to make people understand your point of view. Why should we "Control your reactions to your emotions" if you don't explain why we should?

in 2v8 is GREAT! Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

@GuineaGamer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883571#Comment_3883571
Why not make that statement? I stand by what I said….

You stand by, yet you can't explain it?

in 2v8 is GREAT! Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

@GuineaGamer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883556#Comment_3883556
Never said it was a problem for me? I made a statement. If you want your emotions to run your life, that is on you. I choose not to. The only thing I can control is my reactions to things. That includes reactions to my emotions.

Then why make that statement?

in 2v8 is GREAT! Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

@GuineaGamer said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883492#Comment_3883492
I am not "not allowing people to have an opinion" that is silly and makes no sense. I don't see anywhere I said people can't dislike the game mode, at all. I am saying maybe don't be so emotional over a video game…basically. Control your reactions to your emotions. I know I sure try to. That is all we can control at the end of the day, our own reactions.

"Control your reactions to your emotions" is saying that the way people are currently reacting is a problem to you, why is it a problem for people to react emotionally?

in 2v8 is GREAT! Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

I've been able to play some matches today and i am having fun as killer since the queue isn't crashing anymore. Every match has had 2 bots though and i'm personally not really interested in playing survivor in 2v8 right now.

I just hope if they do bring back 2v8 it's not for at least a while. We want new modes, i don't want to see 2v8 after the anniversary.

in I think it's time to move past 2v8 Comment by OrangeBear February 11, 2025

By the way, the last three killer queues for me have ended in an error.

"Disconnected from Host" x2

and then "Kicked out from Server"

This is ridiculous.

edit : 3rd disconnection from host. I'm done for today

in I think it's time to move past 2v8 Comment by OrangeBear February 10, 2025

@Hex_Ignored said:
Bots didn't reduce queue times because bots actively discourage real players from queuing up for the mode, so while each lobby now only needs 6 survivors, they also need to be willing to play with 2 dead weights on their team, which is why there is a lot of lobby dodging going on. No one wants a bot teammate.

I personally don't mind playing with bots, i think they are suited to 2v8 gameplay, because most of it is repairing and healing and if you get double teamed by a killer, a bot or real player will go down the same way anyway. To me, that just exposes how monotonous playing survivor is in this mode. I think it's just a glorified BP farm.

I can understand why people don't want to play with bots though, but their decision to add bots made sense to me. It doesn't seem to be working, which is why i've come to the conclusion that 2v8 is a lost cause.

in I think it's time to move past 2v8 Comment by OrangeBear February 10, 2025

@Orvarihusklumpen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882526#Comment_3882526
Yeah but why would you even be asleep in the first place? there are like 5 different ways to wake up and they made it to where you can use any alarm clocks to wake up, Alarm Clocks that give you immunity to falling asleep even if the Nightmare hits you for 30 seconds

Your suggestion to make it so dying survivors would be asleep means they would basically always be asleep after being downed or if they were immune they would go to sleep in 60 secs. Not a good idea because that'd mean you'd always be able to teleport to the dying survivor when they get picked up.

in Black box not fixed? Comment by OrangeBear February 10, 2025

More Freddy, Pig, Dredge, Dracula

Less Blight, Nurse, Houndmaster, Singularity.

in Which Killers do you wish you encountered more or less of? Comment by OrangeBear February 10, 2025

@Orvarihusklumpen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3880719#Comment_3880719
Dying survivors can't wake up that is true but injured or fully healthy survivors can, i don't see the issue here. If Freddy is teleporting to healing survivors all game then that is literally a skill issue since his basekit literally has anti-slug in it. Why would you ever revive another survivor if you are in the dreamworld?

You aren't understanding, healing teleport works if either survivor involved in the interaction is asleep.

in Black box not fixed? Comment by OrangeBear February 10, 2025

Let's go supersonic!

in Finally lol Comment by OrangeBear February 8, 2025

It's why Friends Til' The End is my favourite perk to combo with it, it gurantees the aura reveal

in How many people forget that Grim Embrace has an Obsession effect on it? Comment by OrangeBear February 8, 2025

@TonTon said:
Hens shows early footage of all the news changes and new mechanics to RE 2V8 massive buffs to Wesker and Nemesis and Legion including
Herbs
Greens heal health stares
Yellows heal hook stages
Killers
Herbs gives speed boosts
Ps: The people saying it was gonna force two bots into the match you were so wrong
https://youtu.be/evsAJ411uJQ?si=Eb5B_X9ZqFWPOxyY

@TonTon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881889#Comment_3881889
Thank you finally someone with reasonable sense on them

Keep in mind that bots being forced was originally officially shared information from an article, it's not something people made up or misinterpreted, they had to clarify this on twitter

in RE New early 2v8 Gameplay ft Hens Comment by OrangeBear February 8, 2025

@danielmaster87 said:
If this is the best they can do, we're in trouble.
Freddy gets slowdown for teleporting/faking teleport, and it gives the full cooldown if you do fake it. Because skillfully multitasking/mindgaming people should be punished, right?
The teleporting to healing survivors rarely happens when you need it to, and when you do it's just like Pinhead's teleport, or Freddy's teleport in general, where you're giving up pressure on 1 survivor to potentially pressure 1-2, and they always have an early lead on you.
His pallets are seeable and droppable by awake survivors, literally not making any sense, which makes an already weak power weaker. The pallet explosion starts too late and ends too early, and survivors are better off just taking the M1. And the pallet count is extremely limited, which the survivors doesn't need just for it to be balanced. What'd you think would happen if Freddy had like 20? That alone would make him OP?
Awake survivors aren't affected by dream abilities, and sleep immune survivors can't even be put to sleep with snares. And they're sleep immune all the time because of the snapping out and the dream clock change. So you'd better pay perfect attention to the UI so you don't accidentally chase/use abilities on an immune survivor.
Snares are the most overrated thing he has. They're almost worse than old snares, because at least you could place them at a loop, and a survivors would have to run through or around them and get slowed. Now that you have to aim it, the survivors can react and dodge the slowdown completely. They're like worse Artist crows that don't even injure. You can change the size/speed of them, I believe, with add-ons, but now you've got an add-on dependent killer.
And yet, people want this killer nerfed. "He feels oppressive." Really? An M1, A tier? Are you going to ask that Clown or Doctor be nerfed as well, because their abilities in effect do the same thing (stopping survivors from getting to the pallet/window before taking a hit)? Or is it just a prejudice against buffed killers who were formerly trash? Because I saw this same nonsense play out with Vecna, Chucky, Dracula, Blight's Adrenaline Vial, Wraith, Twins (old), Skull Merchant, Singularity, etc. Seriously, let killers be just a little bit strong, so they stand a chance against good survivors, and the rest will adapt in time.

I think Dream pallets are more designed to be a chase tool that you use to zone survivors rather than tricking them to throw one down. I feel like this makes sense because the placement locations made dream pallets pretty obvious before, and they were almost entirely useless against SWF. I do find it annoying how survivors can throw them down at the start of the trial though, but you can at least punish them for this with Paint Thinner add-on.

Snares reduce sleep timer by 30s and pallets by 60s on survivors that are awake and not immune from clocks. im not sure if you know that. You also still put survivors asleep by hitting them with a basic attack.

I don't think that old snares were better. I played a bit of freddy before this rework and i think they were pretty bad mainly because of the lingering hindered duration, it was so low that they seemed inconsequential a lot of the time. They were also bad at blocking fast vaults because of the range survivors can trigger that action. It's trap nature wasn't very helpful either, as you could do nothing about survivors they were just running away and you also had no way to make survivors fall asleep faster. Survivors that fell asleep could also just step into them to disarm them, and they took longer to place as well. New snares have a much longer hinder and are good at blocking fast vaults because it's a projectile.

I also don't understand the nerfs to Dream Projection much but i do think the buffs heavily outweigh them. It's faster and the visible husk makes it much more usable, the killer instinct is good and the cooldown was reduced too. And being able to teleport to any gen opens up new options. I find it to be really good.

I definitely don't think Freddy should be nerfed, but i think he's become pretty decent as well. I think it still needs time to settle.

in Over a week new Freddy - strong, too strong, weak, too weak? Comment by OrangeBear February 8, 2025

@danielmaster87 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3880872#Comment_3880872
He is fun. But that always translates to survivors' fun, not the killer's fun, because he's still having to sweat to get anything. You have to hit someone with 2 snares to put them asleep from full, so that you can actually use your abilities, and his pallets are near useless. What's consistent or strong about that?

No, i am saying he is fun to play. I'm a killer main. You might have to sweat but i can think of a lot of killers that are worse, harder to play or both of those things.

His consistency for me comes from his teleport mainly and his snares can go through walls. You wont start every chase with survivors having just woken up, it's not always like that. Even if you do have to put them to sleep since you can always get some pallets dropped or just go for someone else.

in Over a week new Freddy - strong, too strong, weak, too weak? Comment by OrangeBear February 7, 2025

@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3880872#Comment_3880872
really? he put me to sleep as survivor. it is like pre-drop pallets at most loops and rush gens.
playing as him, i don't feel powerful. I feel like m1 killer vs experienced players with no ability.

I think he's strong and consistent for how easy he is. Pre-dropping isn't going to shut him down, you can snare before breaking a pallet and snaring will reduce the likelihood of reaching a pallet. There's no movement speed penalty for using it, it goes through walls, has a 18m range, blocks fast vaulting windows, on a 7 second cooldown.

He also has imo the best teleport in the game, it really helps with large maps. You can also use in chase too and he also has dream pallets which whilst they are map dependant they will at the very least make dead zones more deadly.

As far as m1 killers go i think he is one of the best, the only one i can think of that is better would be Spirit, although i would prefer to play freddy on big maps due to his teleport.

in Over a week new Freddy - strong, too strong, weak, too weak? Comment by OrangeBear February 6, 2025

I think he's a fun relatively easy killer with amazing perk synergy. Counterplay on survivor side is effective, fun and engaging.

I think he will have a high kill rate due to how consistent he is, although his highest potential doesn't warrant nerfs in my opinion. There needs to be killers like freddy that are easy but decently strong.

in Over a week new Freddy - strong, too strong, weak, too weak? Comment by OrangeBear February 5, 2025

@Orvarihusklumpen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3880379#Comment_3880379
How exactly would it be "uncounterable"? Survivors can already wake up from every alarm clock on the map

Dying survivors cant wake up, so it would mean if you downed an asleep survivor it would be impossible for other survivors to pick them up without allowing you to teleport

in Black box not fixed? Comment by OrangeBear February 5, 2025

@Orvarihusklumpen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/437457/black-box-not-fixed
Survivors wake up when you down them, that's the issue here. They either rework black box or remove the wake up on a downed survivor

it'd be fine if they increased the linger to 4 or 5. They shouldn't make dying survivors asleep otherwise slugging would be uncounterable basically

in Black box not fixed? Comment by OrangeBear February 4, 2025

So they are fixing this with 8.5.1, however, the result of this change means that you have 0.3 seconds to pick up the survivor after downing them.

In my opinion this is unreasonably unforgiving and i think the linger duration should be increased to 4 or 5.

in Black box not fixed? Comment by OrangeBear February 4, 2025

@CountOfTheFog said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3879843#Comment_3879843
So it's different for you too? As opposed to the previous version of Freddy? It feels like a bit longer than 0.5 but maybe that's just me.

Yes but the delay is intentional, it was in the patch notes, it's because they use the same button for switching abilities and teleporting so they made the distinction that you need to hold teleport.

in Please change Freddy Comment by OrangeBear February 3, 2025

@CountOfTheFog said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3879794#Comment_3879794
You *don't* feel the delay? You're incredibly lucky as it's very frustrating on PS5.
You hold L1 for a second, assume that you did the other L1 prompt by accident, then the teleporting starts and cancels so you have to wait for the cooldown.
For me, I have to hold L1 for a couple seconds and hope that it knows what I want. The timing is very off.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/VU0MNT6OEHBZ/194c9662d0726-screenshoturl-resized.jpg

Yes there is a delay to teleporting, you need to hold the button for 0.5 seconds before you start teleporting.

in Please change Freddy Comment by OrangeBear February 3, 2025

Dream Pallets do not serve the same purpose as they did before, they are not suited to trick survivors anymore and instead function as a zoning tool, it's very important to use Rupture.

It's better this way because previously Dream Pallets were pretty useless especially against SWFs.

in Please change Freddy Comment by OrangeBear February 3, 2025

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3879464#Comment_3879464
Sure every Killer needs time to settle in, but Freddys dropped like an anvil, through the floor and made a hole in it.
According to our only other resource than BHVR his ability to 4K is close to 50% of all games and gets 0K about 10% of the games.
Completely overperforming, and you are saying he will settle down back to 60% and have this 4K rate fall down to 35%???
How will that happen???
One, two, BHVR’s coming for you Freddy.

I already explained how it will happen.

Even if he is overperforming months from now and genuinely needs tuning after people have learned his counterplay, that wouldn't make a nerf within the first two weeks justifiable.

When it comes to healing teleport his counterplay is clear and very effective.

in Freddy is a problem now. Comment by OrangeBear February 2, 2025

Needs time to settle. People thought Legion was too much back when they got reworked, and overtime they've gone back to being underwhelming again.

Once people understand his healing teleport, he won't be able to use it. Once people are used to pallets he will stop getting free injures, although it's good zoning in dead zones. Once people are used to the -12% hinder they will be able to play loops accordingly. maybe pre-drop more.

Point is survivors still have a lot to learn before we should consider any changes.

in Freddy is a problem now. Comment by OrangeBear February 1, 2025

Yep i am having the same experience with dream snares on lery's, they can go through hardly any wall.

in Freddy Snare unusable on larrys Comment by OrangeBear February 1, 2025

@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3879112#Comment_3879112
I don't think he's too strong, I think he's bloated.
If I thought he were too strong, I'd have made a thread in the other section about how to change it.
The fact that the things I want to remove are things I think don't make him too strong is what makes it bloat in my eyes. He just doesn't need it, and removing it wouldn't really affect him all that much, he'd still be just as strong.
Also, yes, I think infection being removed on hook would make sense. What would make that suggestion ridiculous? That's the kind of conversation I was hoping to have, for the record, I disagree with that statement and I'm curious about the counterargument.

If you don't think he's too strong then why say

I'd probably not stop at just nerfing him

This implies that you would nerf him to start with.

The fact that the things I want to remove are things I think don't make him too strong is what makes it bloat in my eyes. He just doesn't need it, and removing it wouldn't really affect him all that much, he'd still be just as strong.

I think this idea of minimalist design is harmful to the player experience to be honest. You also haven't stated what the "need" is. The developers want killers to have a 60% kill rate and according to community collected stats (NightLight) Wesker is actually falling considerably below this.

If you throw stats out of the window though and rely on subjectiveness most people would seem to agree he shouldn't lose or gain anything.

I think infection being removed on hook would be a bad change because it means it would basically be irrelevant when the killer plays for hooks, which is the playstyle most seem to prefer. Therefore it would only work if you slugged which i don't think should be encouraged because it's unfun and the game is generally designed around hooks. There's is also 12 cures available in total which is the same amount of maximum hooks for the killer.