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@CostEffects said:
No, they shouldn't do that for obvious reasons. If anything, they could create another character and go that route because Jake seems like someone who just wants to be alone. He's introverted and that is the main basis around his character. I don't see how sexuality would clash with that but that's just me
introverted people can be just as sexually active and having romantical relationships like extroverted people..
we certainly won’t get a Tome story with jake only being alone.. there is more about Jake than just that, he is not a one-dimensional being.
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
If they're going to introduce a gay survivor, they're going to introduce a new character. Jake's lore is already provided, so just slapping on the sexual diversity label is going to make it seem forced and affected. To justify letting people know that your character is gay, their sexuality has to be an innate part of their lore, a defining characteristic that has more effect on their characterization than just "Hey guys, it's just normal me, but gay!"
We don't want a generic Netflix teenager, do we?
We know that at least one of the characters is actually LGBTQ+ and was created with that in mind from the beginning.
there is not better way with either introducing a new character or expanding an existing characters lore to include LGBTQ+. There will always be people calling either way the wrong way for various reasons.
the devs can tell their stories how they want to. If Jakes actually happens to be gay/apart of the LGBTQ+ community then because the devs created him that way. its not contradictory to his existing lore. We have now gotten multiple tome stories for older chars. They are expanding the lore and revealing more about the chars in pretty much all aspects. Jake won’t just get a lore entry that talks about him being alone in the nature.
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@bibibib8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2227129#Comment_2227129
For now im not scare of the false review its later when the auto ban come to live. But i just read on another post that the dev said if you say nothing in the end game chat the killer should be safe
Then your fear has literally nothing to do with the pride charm. Those claims could very well be made if you Tunnel a character that is a person of color.
those concerns belong to their own thread. And by now it’s clear that literally no one thinks autoban is a good idea.
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@bibibib8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2227069#Comment_2227069
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2227099#Comment_2227099
I know the answer but if i get report for toxic by the survivor when in my eyes this is not toxic and they say he tunnel me cause i got the pride charm its a homophobic killer. The fact remain i tunnel him and its the survivor point of view vs the killer point of view.
you act like you don’t know the answer.
this is not something that will lead to a ban if it only happens once. They have to provide proof that you actually harass players with the charms kk multiple matches or you admit to it in the endgame chat.
bust play normally and don’t be a d to players just because they are wearing the charm and you are good. Nothing will happen.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2227065#Comment_2227065
'conspiracy' when you have people outright say in endgame chat that they played toxic because they saw the charm...
you're weird
To be fair. This doesn’t happen often at all. And if someone admits it like that easy report.
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@bibibib8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/253405/stop-letting-people-with-the-pride-charm-live
What happen if i tunnel you because you are the weak link in your team and you just happen to have the pride charm does that make me a homophobic.
That was answered multiple times by the mods in probably every of these threads.
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@ill_Boston_lli said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/253405/stop-letting-people-with-the-pride-charm-live
but if i kill someone with it they assume its because of the pride charm.. so it seems like this is a lose lose.
What if your assumption is not correct and almost no one actually behaves like that?
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@kenma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225020#Comment_2225020
that's weird because i still have my 1,000 cells from 'before' i bought the dwight skin.
why is it weird?
on the beta branch, you never purchased the Dwight skin so your auric cells are still there
on the live branch you purchased the skin and the auric cells are gone
or did I not get it right?
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@hiken said:
there is no difference people been doing this since 2016, as a person already said toughen up. now people want to use the charm as the free card escape, this is going too far already and everyone knew this was gonna happen that is why i was kind of against this charm because people are way too oversensitive for everything nowadays.
People want to use the charm as a free escape is just not true. That’s a neglectable minority that may be pretty vocal on social media/in the forum right now.
and I would even make a very bold statement here: there are people acting like this just to cast shade on the LGBTQ+ community. Of course I got no proof on that, but it’s not an unreasonable assumption either.
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You were just unlucky with your matches. That behavior is certainly not the norm if there is a pride charm in a match neither is tunneling or camping because of the charm.
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Can you guys stop creating Threads on topics that already have multiple active threads on the first page?
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@xenotimebong said:
I’ve seen more people being nice to each other about their pride charms than I have any hate, personally. It’s been nice to see actually. A few people have commented positively post-game about it; I wish I’d remembered to screen cap them for proof because it’s always heart warming to see stuff like that.
Love to hear that 🏳️🌈
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@OopsAllHexes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2226635#Comment_2226635
Other, more understandable reasons include not wanting to think of emotionally charged topics like LGBT rights. Video games are considered a form of escapism for everyone. (Key word: Everyone, don't try to imply that I'm defending people who "want to not fight for LGBT rights" or who "want to pretend that LGBT don't exist" or something), people who are expressing discontent in a polite manner and saying "it's political" may not like thinking about issues that are linked with negative history in everyone's minds.
Well. The lore already has plenty of emotionally charged topics. Yuis, Zarinas and Janes backstories to name a few.
and for everyone means also for the people that get discriminated in real life and maybe don’t want to be oppressed, discriminated or explicitly excluded as a character or even a charm representation in a videogame.
i also usually don’t call out people and try to argue reasonable. But I still get accused of plenty of bad stuff. That’s also on both sides so don’t Act like the pro-LGBTQ+ side is the one to blame here solely
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@DwightFairfield said:
gay people get a charm and you know what that's pretty cool.
now all we need is a trans flag and we'll have covered some of major ones, maybe some more for Bi and Ace
To be fair: we didn’t get the gay flag, that one is different. We got the general LGBTQ+ flag (I at least think that’s how it’s meant)
but I would have nothing against other flags that’s for sure
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@Venzhas said:
Questioooon : im on PS4 and i dont have the charm on my list wich is sad. Do i have to make something to get it ?
You have to go in the in-game store and redeem the code their: PRIDE
the code is permanently redeemable, so you don’t have to hurry
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Last statement was that it would definitely come in Q2 2021 (April, May, June) and they aim for sooner than later.
well. I hope they will get it done in June but I kinda doubt it as there was not even a word on this in the anniversary stream…
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@dude103 said:
Why people angry at charm that has rainbow???
That’s the big question no one can answer.
some say they hate it because of their religion, or it brings politics into the game. But they don’t have anything against other stuff that’s already in the game and against their religious beliefs or that already brought political topics in..
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None as of now. I am at the moment bringing everyone on lvl 50 slowly.
i focused on surv as I play that role way more
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2226167#Comment_2226167
I mean,community challenges sounds fun,until you realize you get pretty much the same rewards that you got for free last year (1 survivor and killer anniversary skin).
They don't even look that interesting tbh,nothing where i'm like "Wooow,those Skins look amazing i hope we as a community can beat this challenge".
Wait.. I didn’t know the David and Wraith cosmetics were the rewards for the community challenges?? THAT sounds disappointing.
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Wait, the community challenges will be the same as last year? Didn’t even know we had those…
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@Momentosis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225412#Comment_2225412
Wake Up and Pharmacy are real solid perks on Quentin.
Ace in the Hole is great and open handed can be real strong if the players bring a lot of aura perks.
Yun Jin's perks' problem is that they are really selfish in a game where you need teamwork.
Oh I know, i often use Wake Up! or Open Handed with Kindred myself. But Yun-Jins perks are over all more helpful and not as extremely situational, even if not solely teambased
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@SMitchell8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225260#Comment_2225260
A cartoon character hitting a badge on a game object is not harrasment. Anything in the Chat or post game is
Many people in the community and even the devs disagree with you.
your opinion is just that. An opinion. Not the truth.
the devs made it even a bannable offense.
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@Moundshroud said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225612#Comment_2225612
I care about the topic too. Instead of this beautiful thing, a step forward now we are jumping at shadows and people keep posting that they are being tunneled and camped because of their charm. This is why we can't have nice things. You and I both know that those same people were saying they were being tunneled and camped last week for no reason at all. We also know that perhaps one in a hundred people might be targeted because of the charm. Nearly everyone has it. I have it. Basically, a nice step has been turned into yet another cesspool of excuses and annoyance.
If someone is a bigot and a jerk, I'm going to call them on it. I'm going to get in their way. If I see people spoiling for a fight, using the charm as a way to get it, I'm going to get in their way too.
Okay fair enough, I didn’t see that that’s what you were getting at.
yeah. But those people that have to ruin something good will always be their, regardless of what it’s about. Some of them really think they are being targeted because of the charm even though that’s not true.
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@Dr_Loomis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225605#Comment_2225605
I think you missed the point, but that's ok.
Then maybe explain yourself better.
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@Moundshroud said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225537#Comment_2225537
I'm just saying that I come here to play video games and get away from the bigotry, politics, constant strife that makes me not want to watch the news. I just find it kind of sad that instead of talking about DbD we are now talking about this in thread after thread after thread.
I get that. I also don’t want to see people talking down on LGBTQ+ topics in a video game forum. But I have to endure those as well. I can’t really do anything against that.
but… you can just not click on the dedicated threads, you know? I want to take part in these discussions, and the devs of this video game are caring about this topic and are including stuff like the charm into their game so it has actually a place here.
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@Dr_Loomis said:
If BHVR released a "Vaccinated" charm, would the wearers be immune or get tunnelled by The Plague?
No.
how is that related to the topic at all?
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@DwightyTighties190 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225091#Comment_2225091
Dwight also is hinted to have a crush on Rose as well, so its more plausible he is Bi than gay.
Works for me as well.
(though I do think you can have a crush on people regardless of your sexuality and their gender… but I see that others might think differently on that)
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@DwightyTighties190 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225091#Comment_2225091
Digging too deep with the head-on.
You are overusing the term ‚digging to deep‘.
it was just my take on it. Nothing more.
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@KingFrost said:
I'm sorry, but no 'false accusations of homophobia' aren't worse than homophobia. Let's not act like they are, okay? People have been killed because of their sexuality, tortured through conversion therapy because of their identity, and so much more. You can call out people who make false accusations without equating the two. The other is NOT just as bad by any means.
Intentional false accusation of homophobia actually make real homophobia seem less severe than it actually is.
But you can’t really compare or weigh homophobia on its own with false accusations, so saying they are equally bad or one is worse than the other doesn’t really work at all.
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@Moundshroud said:
I'm just here to play video games.
You can just do that? What is hindering you?
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Fully agreed.
sadly there are bad apples in every community..
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Ace, Ash and Quentin exist. So no.
And she even has an exhaustion perk (even though there are better options it’s not bad per se)
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/253278/pride-charm-getting-camped
How are they hitting the charm?! Killers can’t accurately aim where on a Survivors body they hit.
OP already explained, the killer is standing in a position with the charm directly in view for them and then hitting.
and we clarified that those killers actually want to support the LGBTQ+ community and try to hug the survs (which they sadly can’t and thus they are hitting them accidentally)
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@Dr_Loomis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225338#Comment_2225338
This.
The drama. Oh the drama. People are falling over themselves. And that's what I mean about it all be very tedious...but at the same time oddly amusing.
I don’t like those multiple threads as well… but then again, that’s just this forum for you. There is always multiple threads with the same topics, especially complains on stuff like camping, tunneling gen-rush, etc.
that’s got nothing to do with the topic being LGBTQ+. And everyone can ignore the threads they are not interested in.
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@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
I'd be really surprised if the charm was the reason, a very very tiny minority may do this but most wont care or even be able to see the charm.
Im probably good for getting minimum 5 facecamps/beaten on the hook a day, i think if i put the charm on i'll still be good for my 5 a day.
Weirdly i enjoy it, if i didnt get it id think i was playing the game wrong. Get the gens done team, me and the killer are sharing a moment lol.
Plot twist: the facecamping killers are LGBT themselves and want to be near the survivor with the charm and try to hug them 🏳️🌈 very wholesome killers
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I would definitely consider Executioner/Silent Hill as it is the only licensed one out of your list. The others could very well be obtained with Iri Shards (they will give out enough for one char during the anniversary event)
PH is a very interesting killer and there is a great guide here on the forums.
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@Venzhas said:
Like the killer got time to see a tiny 1cm stuff on you bottom character.. stop acting victims, noob/ loser killer is gonna tunnel or camp no matter what
That’s the thing though.. apparently those killer players stop playing the actual game and start to concentrate on such things and only target according to that.
This was a thing before, for example killers singling out characters that are people of color. And it was always against game rules and reportable/bannable with sufficient proof.
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Would be pretty hard to balance I guess.
at the very least there would be some need of work put into how totems work as with more than 4 perks it is possible to have more than 5 hex totems.
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@Zylance said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2221631#Comment_2221631
I watched the parts of stream that i could, real life knocked on my door=/
Yeah I know that sucks and I don’t like how they are handling those codes at all.
actually the most recent charm code is actually permanent, that’s the way to go with codes I think
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@SMitchell8 said:
It's just a game, toughen up.
Discrimination and harassment are not ‚games‘ and have nothing to do in DbD. They are reportable and bannable offenses - in-game and in the forums.
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@Dr_Loomis said:
I'm here to play a game, not show allegiance or squabble. This is all very tedious.
Thankfully, not a single person here stops you from playing the game
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@Mineguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225043#Comment_2225043
Well they looked directly where the charm is and hit all the time from that side.
thats concerning and hopefully you were just unlucky with your matches and this won’t be a general issue.
but I guess such people are easy to bait something out of in the end game chat, just mildly tease them for example that they needed to facecamp you because you outplayed them so hard. They will probably want to correct you ;)
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@MementoMori_Massacre said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2217925#Comment_2217925
I see what you mean. Although, Bishop looks entirely human anyway, which would defeat the purpose of wanting ‘non-human’ looking survivors.
Yeah I get that. But I don’t know any non-human characters from horror franchises that would fit so Bishop was the closest one that came to my mind
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@Polishnope said:
Yeah you can get one as long as i get my catholic one and orthodox
The devs said they don’t want to include any (real life) religious content. And as far as I know they didn’t include any as of now, so your request is really not related to this topic at all.
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@Mistikus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2224953#Comment_2224953
well i this confiussion is becouse one of the dev who take care of they official twitter profile did anot well fraze sentence about banning people who tunnel players with that charm, and knowing how salty losers we have in this game get others players worried about being banned becose someone can take killing them in game abut killing like a personal attack. My edvice is to avid said statmens in the future at any cost
That statement was correct even if a little bit poorly worded.
people who go out of their way and Tunnel others because of a specific trait in multiple games will get banned if there is sufficient evidence for that claim.
this is nothing new that got introduced with the charm though.
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@ClarityOfWill said:
I had a game last night against a spirit who, based on their Steam profile / comments, I'm about 90% certain was tunneling me off hook due to the charm. Thankfully they weren't particularly good and with assistance from my team was able to run her for the full 5 gens and escape. I genuinely hope it was something less nefarious but sadly you never know with this community. Funny thing is the charm is just something that looks cool to me, I'm not part of the LGTB community, just someone who was raised to treat others how I'd like to be treated.
You can and should report discriminating comments and hateful profiles to Steam!
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@WexlerWendigo said:
I find Jake much more believable as potentially being gay than Dwight.
Actually I think they might have hinted at Dwight being gay.
the whole ‚being in the locker(closet)‘ stuff and then there was that cosmetic code ‚WARMDWIGHT‘
(Head On as a perk could also very well be a nice hint at Jane being LGBTQ+, coming out of the closet)
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@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
See this is were im confused so any input is most welcome, also please excuse my ignorance if any.
Im a straight male (i do enjoy some Barry Manilow though so maybe not) with a brother in law and sister in law both gay. During Pride month i like to show support so put the Pride flag on my social media accounts. Ok.
Last year numerous gay people messaged me asking if i was gay, when i said no they told me i shouldnt be dispaying the Pride flag then as they use it to easily find other gay people so i thought ok never knew that and removed it.
I also know a streamer who had the Pride flag on screen (very small) showing support but was also contacted and told similar to what i was told and he also then removed it.
So can i ask what is the correct answer. Can straight Barry Manilow loving males show support by displaying the Pride flag or is it frowned upon.
Again please excuse any ignorance or outdated language i may have used, i wasnt educated very well.
Actually, further thinking about it, what those people did to you and the streamer was pretty harmful for the LGBTQ+ community. They are drawing a bad picture of gay people and are part of the reason why people are against the community even though they may not be entirely against people being LGBTQ+..
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@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
See this is were im confused so any input is most welcome, also please excuse my ignorance if any.
Im a straight male (i do enjoy some Barry Manilow though so maybe not) with a brother in law and sister in law both gay. During Pride month i like to show support so put the Pride flag on my social media accounts. Ok.
Last year numerous gay people messaged me asking if i was gay, when i said no they told me i shouldnt be dispaying the Pride flag then as they use it to easily find other gay people so i thought ok never knew that and removed it.
I also know a streamer who had the Pride flag on screen (very small) showing support but was also contacted and told similar to what i was told and he also then removed it.
So can i ask what is the correct answer. Can straight Barry Manilow loving males show support by displaying the Pride flag or is it frowned upon.
Again please excuse any ignorance or outdated language i may have used, i wasnt educated very well.
The pride flag is not exclusive for gay people. It’s also for any LGBTQ+ people and others that support it! So those that seek out other gay people with the flag were in the wrong here.
You and the streamer did nothing wrong at all and you should show the pride flag if you want to show your support! That’s what it’s all about.
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I have played a few matches with the charm and there was no difference to before.
i doubt there are actually many that go out of their way to target people that wear the charm..maybe you were just really unlucky.
although.. how do you know they ‚hit the charm‘ and that that’s the reason?