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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937239#Comment_2937239
Never said I like my opinions being dissenting. If I did let me know and I'll correct myself on that. I said my opinions are dissenting, on certain things of course.
I think it would be just as weird if they made a similar announcement but instead it was confirming a certain survivor to be straight. You know what would be better? Letting the fan decide for themselves what each character is and means to them.
Okay so let me decide Nurse is lesbian. Oh wait. Not possible as she was dearly in love with her husband. Okay then Frank is totally gay, right? Probably having a thing with Joey? Oh. Oh wait. No. He is in a heavy sexual relationship with Julie. Okay. Wait. Where were we?
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937133#Comment_2937133
Not an act. Its not nice to assume things about people. I genuinely don't feel like I can assume anything anymore about the survivors. Also we? Is there some secret club of forum members here that gossip about me behind my back? Hmmm I wonder.
We= you and me and everyone reading your posts.
it’s not an assumption. It’s obvious this is an act. You said yourself you like to have dissentive (or whatever word you used) opinions.
people have told you (and it’s general knowledge) that in-game lore is what defines characters in-game. You focusing on this one tweet is you acting up.
or are you taking every other tweet as serious as well? Eg those Dwelf tweets? Or that tweet telling you Sprint Burst and Lithe are a great combo?
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@deKlaw_04 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937175#Comment_2937175
So did Steve, Nancy demo and Johnathan escape the entity or nah?
I still see them and play as them so.. nah. They still in the fog.
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@Satelit said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937131#Comment_2937131
https://youtu.be/RO5Y_XJ9X9k?t=489
Based on his respose to the relationship question they do seem to have plenty time to talk to eachother without a killer on them.Them being at the campfire made sense when there were 4 characters but now 30 people at 1 campfire seems excessive.
I always imagined those that escaped together from a trial end up at the campfire together. And then suddenly (probably after falling asleep) they would wake up in a trial with a random selection of survivors? Those that get killed either wake up directly in another trial or probably first wake up at a random campfire with others and then it’s business as usual
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937016#Comment_2937016
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937019#Comment_2937019
there these 3 thing in the tome but david king coming out in the tome bothers them just face fact anyone against David King being gay now but never said anything about
Sally (The Nurse) had a husband.
Felix has a wife!
Frank and Julie are in a... very commited relationship.
Confirmed not gay!
are prejudice and homophobe
they need to get over it.
There are even more..
Nurse and her husband
Frank and Julie in their tome lore (which was on the edge of being disgusting and definitely being shoved down our throats)
David having had a girlfriend (turns out he is not straight, but that was still a heterosexual relationship in the lore)
Felix and his pregnant wife
Oni is the direct ancestor of Spirit thus implied to have had a wife
Dwight having a crush on a female coworker (though admittedly this one is pretty low on the list as it’s not explicitly sexual, though it can be assumed as such)
Ace referred to as womanizer on some cosmetics
Wraith and Nurse having (romantically) implied cosmetics/texts
other characters in lore:
multiple parents explicitly stated as father and mother (Jake, David, Spirit, Trapper (not sure about his mother mentioned), Hillbilly, Meg (pretty sure her father is mentioned), for others I guess it’s mostly one parent mentioned and thus not explicitly heterosexual)
Pretty sure other relationships in tome/background stories (shout out to the one gay relationship in one of Haddies story’s i think - which didn’t get any further announcement by BHVR)
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937038#Comment_2937038
I don't know... I don't feel safe assuming anything about any of the survivors anymore until I see a confirmed statement about it.
the statement is only relevant because of the in-game tome story.
we all know that’s just an act by you.
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936908#Comment_2936908
You don't know what they are! They could be gay too.
You are really trying to tell me that Nurse might be lesbian or asexual/aromantical?
and David can still be anything as well, sexual orientation is never set in stone m, he might change and realize he is bi/pan or maybe being gay actually was a phase for him.
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@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936745#Comment_2936745
Not to mention, vaulting doesn’t exactly work for a wheelchair-bound individual...
Lol of course I am forgetting the most obvious one
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@AsherFrost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/322068/dear-behaviour-david-king
Well, thanks for making me cry in an airport, lol.
Seriously though. That's awesome. Thank you for sharing this
To be fair, there are worse places to be seen crying than an airport :)
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@Wrecked said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/P9CX34UUT8J1/f9dea1fd-eaca-4fab-a143-f2e2b4c14ab1.jpeg
Some baby Milo action for ya! @GoodBoyKaru @MandyTalk @Jocelynbee
my heart can’t handle so much cuteness
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936862#Comment_2936862
Sorry you feel that way about me. I just personally think things like sexuality of fictional characters is best left to the consumer. I know the world I live in. I know this world is insanely diverse and that no 2 people think or see things exactly the same. David King is now in a different light for a lot of people. I know he is also in a better light for some people too. The thing is it has caused both negative and positive discourse between the community when this would have never happened had David King, as well as the rest of the roster, remained ambiguous.
*excluding those character that have been revealed to have meaningful heterosexual relationships, but those you don’t wanna acknowledge…
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lol
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@Wrecked said:
Here’s a better one of his face!
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/I0QRV4ZO12BE/85e963d2-244d-417f-9d57-2b615bd663a1.jpeg
He’s such an attention seeker, if only he knew how much people wanted to see him. 🤣
I love him!
give him plenty of pets and treats from us all 🥰
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Wholesome post/thread! Love to see this especially after other threads went downhill.
As others have already said better than I could: thank you so much for sharing this 💙
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@Dustin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936568#Comment_2936568
All survivors actually just have a pill collision for a hitbox which is why you may notice jank hits on let's say Huntress.
As for animations sure but just imagine it with me - A perk that puts a survivor in a wheelchair - a worse No Mither if you will. As for killer pickup just make the entity yank the wheel chair. It would be the same concept as letting the killer pick up a locker with a survivor in it and hooking the locker instead. Makes complete sense and good luck unhooking someone in front of me now Dwight.
That’s what I am talking a out with the hitbox, a surv in a wheelchair would be even more off and would actually need another hitbox.
for the animations it’s more than just picking up survivors. Every Mori, Healing, getting healed, repairing, Totem cleansing and blessing, running, walking, exit gates, etc pp all would need new animations..
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@Dustin said:
Can we also get a survivor in a wheelchair while we're at it so I can get the full Texas Chainsaw Massacre experience as Franklin.
It's okay if maps aren't wheelchair accessible we'll make them accessible.
Sadly no, as this would require completely new hitboxes and animations for every interaction of survivors and between characters (surv-surv or surv-killer interactions).
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I still wanna see Wickerbottom from Dont Starve transformed into DbD model/artstyle. I just really like her character design (and generally Don’t Starves character designs…)
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Why do we keep bringing it up on the forums?
If he is, cool, if he isn't cool.
They said he is, so he is.
End of story, let's complain about Spirit
Why shouldn’t we complain about Spirit? Or you just mean specific addons?
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@Anara said:
Do we know what is the bug ?
There were spots in which survivors were invincible / unreachable for the killer eg the top of the stairs would lead to third level. There should be a big report here on the forums as well
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@CORENdot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936419#Comment_2936419
It's not that i did on purpose either, previous posts where closed...
So you determined that a new account that comments into LGTB+ related topics is not appropiate due to... prejudices?
Feel free to bring what i said unappropiate or worth of redirection and the forum rules that support those statements.
Fortunately i'm secure enough to not act based on others' prejudices.
I just tried to help you express your feedback so it actually can get heard. You are trying to twist this into something else.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936419#Comment_2936419
I think most people are indifferent and just don't like things being slapped on. No matter what, dbd has painted themselves into a corner. This is tokenism no matter what. Hence, if they said they talked to gaymer about it it means they didn't plan on it from the beginning. Her comment means they made it up literally, and for fans of David king they can feel that. People can disagree without being bigots. I'd be annoyed if I retired and someone imagined one of my characters to be straight.
But we don’t know what the creators imagined the characters sexuality initially. In the end, it’s BHVRs character though and doesn’t belong to one single writer or anything. And the storytelling in DbD always add new lore to their characters. If they explicitly didn’t want David to be gay but straight and it was integral to the character, it would have been part of the initial backstory. Also -shockingly- it’s a fictional character and literally everything is made up about David King.
use actual arguments or say you just don’t like it personally. But it’s not slapped on and you can’t say if the creator was for or against it at all.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936343#Comment_2936343
Either way is lazy, even if one is likes better, just slapping on lgbtq on a character that fans fantasize about is lazy. It's difficult with tokenism because it's always about virtue signalling, even if someone likes it. I have characters that are lgbtq, and the focus isn't on their sexuality. So to see dbd with all their resources take that out is irksome. I don't mind if david king was gay, but it seems very forced. Even if the situation was relatable to some members, the writing and broadcasting seems forced vs being organic.
just slapping on lgbtq on a character that fans fantasize about is lazy
completely agreed! Thankfully that’s not what happened with David at all. And nothing feels forced with the story..
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More accessibility settings.
more controller settings.
adjustments for controller players to close the gap to M&K (aim dressing, getting easier 360‘d, wiggle affecting controller players more)
..those count as QoL right?
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@DoritoHead said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936469#Comment_2936469
Gann's moved on from Spirit and Dbd
O.O
thats very sad to hear, they were always respectful and nice as far as I remember. But well, can’t blame them.
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@DH3206 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935832#Comment_2935832
Why do a stream then, in the first place. You can't blame people for wanting answers on certain topics, only to get an answer like "we can't say anything". Don't take the question when you can't answer it.
That’s actually what they did in the beginning and they have been accused of cherry picking the questions and ignoring the questions that the community actually wanted to get answers for.
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Well. I don’t think there is any indication as to when passive phasing is on?
but surely our local Spirit-main @TheGannMan would know better than me and may have some tips for you?
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Not sure what’s happening there, could be worth it to start a thread in Technical Issues as it seems it’s really a problem on your side (if you still experience it?)
Describe your technical issue -
Yes.
thankfully it got reduced in volume and the devs confirmed they will actually change it based on the feedback they have gotten!
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Feedback and suggestions can be posted here:
Our team will be happy to read these! -
Just stopping by to say it’s not a stupid question at all and I get those terms confused all the time 😊
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Hi there.
first of all: you are at a disadvantage compared to PC killers. But you will never directly play against a PC killer anyways and theoretically ‚skill-based matchmaking‘- system should match you against survivors you have a chance against.
i will try to give you my thought on your struggles
struggling to hit survivors that fishtail and spin, I genuinely feel like I am blind when I get close to them.
that is something PC players also experience, but the sensitivity a mouse provided makes it way easier to track survivors and to basically make broader hits due to spinning yourself with the mouse. You can adjust the controller sensitivity in your games settings to some degree and if you haven’t done it I suggest to try different settings and see where you get a better feeling.
bought thumb grips but they don't really help
try different ones, read reviews on them beforehand. I used to have some that made my controller sticks actually way more slippery than before 😂
I go from brilliant one game, to god awful the next few
thats something many many players experience and this is not on you nor your platform. It’s the game design and kinda necessary, as it would get boring to only ever be brilliant in every one of your matches. Though the game design sadly makes losing especially as killer very frustrating.
i would say you shouldn’t stress yourself over a game. If you still have fun then by all means, keep playing killer. Maybe set yourself different goals, focus on challenges/daily’s/etc instead of only focusing on winning or how many gems get done how fast. It’s okay to enjoy a game on a casual level.
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Did you make an in-game report on the end-game screen? (It’s where you select one of the 4 category’s wirkt the icons; for cheating/hacking it would be the icon with the broken gears)?
this is mandatory, if you haven’t done this then sadly you won’t be able to report that player.
if you did, you can create an Additional Player Report Ticket on the link I will provide at the end.
There you can fill in all the fields, on player id you gotta put in the players gamertag and in the description you should mention you were playing on PS4 and the player was cross play.
the video will be too big to actually upload directly on the report ticket, so it’s best to upload it on a video platform such as Youtube (there you can upload it as an Unlisted video, that way it’s only available for others with the link). The link to the video would need to be put in the issue description as well.
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What exactly do you mean with ‚bad‘?
it’s an addon that’s available for you, so you can use it. If there were some exploits that have unintentional benefits or crashed the game they would killswitch it so you wouldn’t be able to use it.
I guess it’s supposed to help learning the Blights power and how to handle it. Problem is that once you got the hang of it with the addon you may need a new learning phase to get accustomed to play without it. But all in all it shouldn’t be ‚bad‘ to use it..
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i am not entirely sure what the conditions are. But you can contact support directly, maybe your account somehow was skipped due to that bug.
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@Sludge said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936301#Comment_2936301
Stunts like this can only breed resentment. We've seen it in media before.
Should have been a new character
It’s not a stunt. It’s very much in line with their normal story telling. If it was a new character there would be just as much complaints. And they expected people to also complain with their chosen approach. But… you can’t always listen only to the haters - especially not if you are caring about the topic and you want to write your character the way you want.
David is gay. And he may or may not have been gay in the minds of the creators from the very beginning. We will never know for sure. (Even if they confirmed it was always the case people would just accuse them of lying - I actually think after re reading the lore that it shouldn’t have been such a surprise)
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@CORENdot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936301#Comment_2936301
What is to clarify at this point... nothing i said implies me being against LGBT+ representation, does it?
But let's assume that my course of action implies it.
What is the course of action should i have went for you to not feel i'm against LGBT+ representation?
Do i have to met some prerequisites before voicing my opinion on LGBT+ related topics?
Well, you obviously can voice your opinion and feedback the way you want. But I am also free to comment on it on a public forum.
and try to view it from my perspective: you have a new forum account and as of yet you only ever participated in topics that are related to the newly added LGBTQ+ representation. I think I already understood that you actually don’t have anything against LGBTQ+ representation and iirc you were also not that upset about that (unnecessary) twitter post about it.
you were talking mostly about character attachment which kinda gets destroyed due to lore additions like this. But there have been multiple of these kinds additions already and if you actually think this is an important topic that needs to be addressed then I have already advised you (and will gladly to it again) to create a new thread in the appropriate forum Section ‚Feedback & Suggestions‘ where you can describe your problem with this kind of approach of story telling and you can do it independently from anything LGBTQ+ relation.
MandyTalk is working as Lead Community Coordinator at BHVR and part of her job includes reading and forwarding feedback from the forums to the team. It would be easier for her to collect feedback on your topic if you (and others) would talk about this not in direct relation to the LGBTQ+ inclusion/representation as these topics always get pretty heated because believe it or not there are plenty of homophobes that are just using other arguments to hide their hatred.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935842#Comment_2935842
What I mean is that often when they said that they were working on something, they stated that there is no ETA given for that. And STILL people believed, the thing they talked about will 100% come to the game. Sometimes with "They said this Midchapter-Patch.". I remember the Early Game-thingy they were talking about. They scrapped it at some point and said that and even afterwards, it was still asked.
And it will probably be asked about during the next Q&A.
And on the other hand, if they have questions which they dont want to answer for whatever reason, they can either say that they will not be able to answer them right now OR they can ignore them. Either way it is bad. So if people complain about them saying "We cannot talk about this", the alternative would be to not even mention the question at all, which would be equally upsetting (at least) for those who were asking.
It would be cool if all the question they can’t give an answer to would just get listed as such.
that way, the community that upvoted those questions so numerous would still get their answer (or rather: acknowledgment that the devs have seen the question and aren’t able to give an answer) and more interesting question that didn’t get upvoted would get more dedicated time in the actual stream.
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@CORENdot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936223#Comment_2936223
Many arguments have been already answered by now, will try to be additive.
David might have been a more common Identification stereotype for the vocal playerbase, players also might only feel Identified by one character at all, etc...
The statement that there are no complains aside of LGBT+ topics was already covered, did you missed it?
Character model reworks. Now if you expect me to ask every player that might have expressed dislikeness if it was refeering to breaking sense of Identity, it's definetly not going to happen. Yet it is hard to believe noone might felt it when the internet has plenty of cases describing the subjects, right?
It just take some time to read about them.
I fail to see how DBD forum is a more reliable source for objectiveness than whole internet either.
Be patient tho, this subjects will slowly but surely come more, education takes time.
Education and time (and well implemented representation) will lead to more acceptance of similar reveals such as David’s.
as to character models: good point but also… that’s related to something always on the screen and not some background lore text. And again, I am talking about you right now. You haven’t complained before here and you are still active on threads about David’s reveal instead of creating your own thread where you can clarify this is not about LGBTQ+ representation but about tome story’s lore expansions.
and also, I am aware the forums are not representative of the whole playerbase, but they are still one of the most direct channels to reach the devs.
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Yeah I have been asking for such a char for a long time now.
it seems like they have changed their approach of creating normal everyday people and are opting to young-attractive-successful ones. Which is tiring, but probably marketing-wise way smarter. At least they are getting getting diverse with ethnicities/nationalities and sexual orientations now.
(still wishing for more body-type and age diversity)
@steezo_de said:
BHVR can make Nea old if they want. Maybe they can team up with AARP and make a Twitter post and everything.
OMG. A whole Twitter post? I think that you actually kill some of the people that ‚don’t care for the lore‘ at this point
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@Bran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936129#Comment_2936129
Being fair, they spent 2 years to use an already existing character.
Considering how it turned out, that’s 2 years well spent.
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@CORENdot said:
Many might be disliking the change about David due to the Emotional Attachment to the Character...
Again, feel of Attachment, feel of being Identified as or with.
I'm sure there are more subjects that describe what i refeer aside of Emotional Attachment, Parasocial relationships might be a fitting other.
I was debating with @Mooks on other topic and something interesting came up, that this argument doesn't appear outside LGBT+ related topics.
And i see it has been bringed here one more time.
Google finds near 9 million results (in my language) about just Emotional Attachment to Characters; ranging from Cinema, TV Shows, Literature, Roleplay settings and obviously games.
I told it beforehand, the number of times a subject is brought or precieved to be brought, which seems there is a problem here, is not related to it's validity. As it might be lack of knowledge or education.
If you search for any of the mentioned subjects and still don't find something relatable outside LGBT+ topics within games, i bring you a concise example, character model reworks. Has this happened in DBD?
That also breaks Attachment.
The dilemma that comes in is how to determine the above subjects to be less valuable or worse than creating a new character alltogether.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936163#Comment_2936163
That to feel Identified by a Character, sexuality is involved is not a choice.
I was simply talking about Dead by Daylight though. Not about any other media or even other video games.
DbDs approach of story telling since the first tome has always been like this: they are adding onto the initial lore and there have been even new (heterosexual) relationships added to characters. It’s just very suspicious that there has never been real complaints like this until this very moment with David revealed to be gay.
and just to be clear: we are not talking about the reveal on twitter. If you like that or not and for whatever reason is completely valid and in most cases understandable. But this is about the fact that while it’s never been stated before now David is confirmed to be gay in the new tome story. And while you personally don’t like it because your head canon told you something different about David, which is okay, but that’s not a good enough reason to not reveal this fact about David.
in this case there was no direct change of the character, since the announcement two years ago it was always known that any character might get their canon sexual orientation/identification revealed, and as long as it doesn’t contradict the existing lore and the writers/creators stand behind it and want to tell this story, it’s not fair to demand them to stop with their approach - especially if it’s only ever been a problem with anything LGBTQ+ related.
i still haven’t seen you or others complain as much about Legions tome story - and there actual retconning has taken place to some degree.
edit: if you actually have a problem with their story telling, adding lore to the characters through tomes after the initial release - then maybe create such a thread in Feedback & Suggestions and give some examples without only focusing on LGBTQ+ topics! That way your feedback would feel way more genuine because these threads are not about what you are complaining about
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
The issue with me is laziness. As a writer I think it's lazy to just slap LGBTQ on a character because there's lots of fan art. I don't care for sexuality to be noted, but if it needed to be, why didn't the devs make a new character? The anniversary character could've been lgbtq with their own chapter, lots of love. The next tome could've been their tome. It seems more like they're embracing fanships than genuinely creating something. A lazy afterthought to virtue signal while they lie about mmr on a dev stream. I love this game but I hope the relationship with the community gets better.
Just slapping it on a new character would actually be way more lazy than creating a fitting story like they did for David. Also they would get criticized for tokenism and doing it for the money and the surv would be said to have their personality completely revolving around their sexuality no matter what else was mentioned in their background story.
@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2928239#Comment_2928239
They had it right with their original position. Letting the players create their own narratives and identify with the characters they most relate to is always the best approach. I can never identify with David King again. :(
You still can identify with him. You choose not to because you are focusing on his sexuality while there were always traits and stuff in his lore that made him a distinct character from you. Or have you been abandoned by your rich family, are as muscular as him and you often get drunk in bars and get into fights?
also the very first DLC was already not in line with their original position.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935832#Comment_2935832
Wait you mean asking the exact same questions every single time won't give a different answer?? Shame
Nah I am sure next time they will answer the questions when cross progression is coming for consoles, when Myers gets a buff (and a nerf), and and when the grind will be addressed. I mean… outside of the Q&A how else would they even know it’s being asked by the community literally everywhere all the time??
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935800#Comment_2935800
Whats wrong with having a neutral stance on something? You're wanting me to accept the sexuality of David and whatever else they throw at the characters in the future and I simply want it to be left up to the consumer so everyone can be happy. You have an opinion but you're also wanting me to conform to it. Not gonna happen.
It’s not neutral to be against something.
and it’s especially not neutral if you only ever voice your opinion against it when it’s a specific topic.
there is nothing ‚thrown‘ at the characters. That’s you trying to twist this into something negative.
also you acting like if they were doing your way everyone would be happy is something different to what you are accusing me of?
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935717#Comment_2935717
Ignorance is bliss. I would've preferred to not have heard about this. I do like lore but I just haven't seen DBD to be a game to really emphasize the importance of it so knowing specific details about characters hasn't really been that appealing to me. It doesn't mean I won't give my opinion about it when things are made known to me. Even still, I'd much rather everything be left up to the consumer so everyone is happy.
Even still, I'd much rather everything be left up to the consumer so everyone is happy.
except for those that have another opinion than your own and actually like the story telling in DbD…
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@CORENdot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935230#Comment_2935230
David sexuality reveal is the subject and an example towards the argument i bring, not focusing on it is nonsensical.
I fail to see how the objectiveness of an argument has to be based on the number of times it has been brought yet,
I wouldn't say no one ever is using this argument outside LGBT+ related topics either, as many might not know they are refeering to breaking emotional attachment when trying to express disliking of character long term changes.
The way it was revealed beforehand has nothing to do with storytelling at all, this is an important distinction. You cannot limit storytelling, when you are not storytelling on the first place.
But i guess it's fair to call it a storywriting limitation in the overall character lore.
The character changed from having an open to interpretation sexuality to a specific one, label this however you want, yet bear in mind you are using negative connotations on how others' feel about it, which doesn't add anything constructive to the debate.
Can you give one other example from all those 6 years and 10 rifts with each having at least 2 character tome stories where people reacted similarly?
characters in DbD change all the time with your definition here, maybe not on sexuality but actually that has happened to some degree as well (see Legion tome for example, or Nurse and Wraith cosmetics which was also part of a twitter post I think?)
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935585#Comment_2935585
Is it? What market are you looking at? I see a lot of people doing it for virtue signal points but I don't think its the majority norm in the world yet. Also I don't think when Peach kissed Mario they had him do it for representation.
Eh. We already know that the devs of DbD are not only doing it for representation either. They have stated they see themselves as an inclusive company/team and they are standing behind it.
and virtue signaling -even though that argument is just a buzz word and doesn’t stand for anything- still requires a market that is for this.
@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935584#Comment_2935584
Sure why not I guess? I mean I think I'm pretty much considered a homophobe by a few people here by now so you can go ahead and throw another label on me. Its fine. You won't see me doing that to you or anyone else here though. Hatred isn't my thing.
It seems more like you want people to call you a homophobe at this point to prove some point. All while you are labeling the devs/creators of DbDs characters which is totally fine.
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935576#Comment_2935576
You're the first person I've ever seen complain about that. Grats? Again, markets and majority.
Yeah and the current market is asking for LGBTQ+ representation.
also that wasn’t a complain. Just a fact. Super Mario World is still one of my favourite games ever and I don’t let the sexuality of a character determine how much I like a game.
so grats to you on your problems with DbDs representation.
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935545#Comment_2935545
Nothing was ever shoved in your face. There was nothing to be said. Markets always gravitate towards the majority. If the LGBT community was a majority in those times you would've seen a lot more of it in video games.
Peach kissing Mario who then turns red wasn’t shoved into my face and there is no way of completing the game without seeing it? But a twitter post is shoving something in your face while you don’t even need to be on twitter to play the game?
can you elaborate on this please?