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@[Deleted User] said:
It's more of a killer/map issue. My team got gens done in 6 minutes on Rotten Fields against Pig over the weekend. Two Prove Thyselves and a single yellow toolbox with charges/socket swivels and Built To Last between 4 of us. We made no attempt to loop anything and never had trouble finding pallets. Granted, we had a trap death due to horrible RNG with Tampered Timer/Crate of Gears and got hit with NOED, but still. First thing we said when we saw Pig was "Throw pallets immediately because they can't possibly outpace our gens."
Agreed on it being a Map issue and slightly for Killer, I don't see why we cant get better perks for anti-gen progress.
I know Thantophobia is a good perk for nerfing their base speeds but for items it should also affect.
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@cobie_ said:
No, I think gen speed as it is right now is fine.
Alright
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1801878#Comment_1801878
It's not, though. I'm asking to discuss this with the community (or rather, that you guys try to change my view). That's why I put this thread in this section instead of the feedback section and why I put "CMV" as a prefix to the title.
Sooo you want Subjective opinions....to change your mind on something that is subjective?
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@Mandy said:
You can use family sharing or even buy the game again - this is not bannable.
Thank you Mandy.
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@Botiz said:
"I really hope that my reports for harassment actually does something."
I mean, there's literally another thread where someone reported somebody for racism with screenshot proof and it was declared not enough info, so don't expect your report to do much.
Wow
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Let me test it.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1801858#Comment_1801858
Why do you want this thread moved to the wrong section? I'm not asking the devs to change my view, am I?
As @BigBrainMegMain said it's more of a "Suggestion" than a actual discussion.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
Can we move this to Feedback and Suggestions please?
It's cluttering actual in-game debates and conversations.
I double this
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@chieften333 said:
Personally I don't go into a game looking to be represented. In fact I do the opposite.
I go into games looking to be someone other than myself. Because it takes the edge off of my current problems.
Agreed
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@HarlowXRaven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1801771#Comment_1801771
If you camp, mori or tunnel you have no right to complain about these things and seeing as how toxic you are getting in the chat seems that you do might want to evaluate your priorities not everyone is in a swf and not every swf has an endless amount of information. If they put bloodlust tier 1 and take off mori, keys and hatches then maybe people will stop genrushing. As a solo survivor I believe lots of genrushers are solo survivors they have no idea whether or not someone else is working or gens or if someone is doing an objective either. Swf is a little better but unless their pros at communicating unlike most swf i've been in we just communicate if someone is being chased and whos working on gens. Don't group people into one group but people like you make me believe that survivors should be more toxic you do all this stuff and cant win without it but if someone was to bring ds you'd be pissed.
- Not being toxic if I wanted to be toxic I would be behaving like "ZackDaylight" here saying "Im going to leave" but keeps going after already conceding, I don't have to "Evaluate" any "priorities"
- Camp,Mori, and Tunnel? never mentioned these nor have I complained about them.
- Never said "Everyone" if you scroll up and like I said the previous you can read that I said I have met both randoms and SWF doing this method.
- I dont get pissed at DS because its a balance to actual "Toxic" Killers and you saying I'm grouping people but you just grouped me with toxic people which I'm not so why should I take anything you just said at any face value?
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798772#Comment_1798772
How is doing gens "sabotage the gameplay"?
Scroll up and read then.
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@wildcardyo said:
You want the truth? You might not like it when you hear it. You might be in disbelief.
Gen rushing has been a blatant issue for the game for a long time now.
The devs have neglected to balance the game and have left it impossible to win against competent survivors. Moreover, the devs have neglected to prevent cheats. This needs attention!
I can't believe this is still news to most of the community, but the only killers that can beat good survivors (survivors that actually do what they are capable of doing) are using wall hacks or are lucky because no matter their skill level, the best killers cannot compete with survivors anywhere near the same skill level.
Anti cheat does not work. Might as well spill the beans so this gets the exposure it needs to fix it. Just like in most FPS games, nearly every top killer streamer you are seeing is using wall hacks or toggling. Watch carefully over time and you will see they are both good at the game and are using assistance. I won't name names, but literally every top killer streamer is doing this. Of course they have to hide it and of course the streaming programs block it out. The devs likely know this just like FPS developers of other games. If they were to ban the faces of the game in the streaming community, it would only hurt their agenda to foster a popular game. So it is the elephant in the room and most people are oblivious and think there are gods among men skill level wise. Yes they are good without assistance, but they are consistently insane with it.
As for everyone else playing legitimately, many killers on forums will claim they do well consistently. I win consistently too, but it is because I am not playing against good survivors a majority of the time. I usually play against average survivors. Since matchmaking is basically random, there are usually 1 or more potatoes in every survivor group, especially now with console/pc crossover.
2 top tier survivors can carry a 4 man squad with potatoe survivors a majority of the time, on a majority of maps, even when the killer plays all their cards to the same top tier. That is how much of an advantage the survivor side has in this game.
Killers are severely, severely disadvantaged against survivors who split up and gen rush on separate generators on every side of the map and actually use everything at their disposal.
It is literally impossible to win legitimately no matter what killer you play and no matter how good you are, if the survivors actually play well.
In any pvp game, there should be counters. There is nothing that counters good survivors who spread out. They have way too much at their diposal.
GeN RuShInG dOeSnT eXiSt!!! good response my man!
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@zackdaylight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1799952#Comment_1799952
I’ve honestly never met a person who uses their brain as little as you do. And you probably sit here wondering why your post has no upvotes. So if you clearly can’t read, then explain why you said “I can surely say that killers aren’t OP, especially in a group”? Explain it. Because that sure sounds a lot like you saying that “survivor is easier, especially when you’re in a group. So killers aren’t OP”. Which is why I said no #########, killers aren’t OP if you’re in a group. That’s because you’re doing something the game isn’t meant to let you do.. talking and communicating with your teammates. you act like you’re correct about everything and this whole thread is you acting like a brat arguing with everybody. Obviously you’re just an ignorant troll.
"I've honestly never met a person who uses their brain as little as you do."
Oh the irony since you are obviously looking in a mirror and proving how little you use your own brain here.
"And you probably sit here wondering why your post has no upvotes."
Firstly no one cared about upvotes LOL im not you i don't seek some fake reputation online as validation I'm not no loser my guy, but you mentioning it when you have no real upvotes is a indication that you worry about that factor more than the discussion proving how immature you are by default.
So if you clearly can’t read, then explain why you said “I can surely say that killers aren’t OP, especially in a group”? Explain it.
I am wondering if your small brain can comprehend that I been answered that twice now do I have to say it so slow so your brain can comprehend it? if so fine I'll go to pre-school lvl so you can fully understand.
IT IS CALLED EXPERIENCE and since you are clearly bad as a survivor by so much projection here it surely reflects you view the bad/good killers are OP because you don't grasp the game.
Because that sure sounds a lot like you saying that “survivor is easier, especially when you’re in a group. So killers aren’t OP”. Which is why I said no [BAD WORD], killers aren’t OP if you’re in a group.
Now you switching it all up??? Which is it slowpoke are they are OP or they aren't???? you originally said this:
The problem is, is that killers are OP. So people feel the need to get gens done as quickly as possible. But that’s not genrushing, that’s just playing the game.
Now you stating they aren't OP in a group? do you know how to have a linear conversation or just going to say ######### to say #########? because you keep going on for what reason? because you dont like hearing other people's opinions???
That’s because you’re doing something the game isn’t meant to let you do.. talking and communicating with your teammates.
Where is it written you aren't meant to communicate with your teammates? if you weren't meant to do something it would be bannable or disallowed which it isn't and people do it sooooo either way that still gives a Advantage over the killer proving a problem does it not???
you act like you’re correct about everything and this whole thread is you acting like a brat arguing with everybody. Obviously you’re just an ignorant troll.
Bro you legit the only dude here who thinks their comment is "Always correct" and then you mention "Upvotes" as some validation treatment LOL you surely lost more and more credibility to comment here and aren't you the brat arguing with me about what i said? still the same analogy different method but since you wanna call people an ignorant troll and a brat why are you STILL here when you said you won't continue after clearly taking an L when CONCEDING, oh because you are the BRATY IGNORANT TROLL who is offended that I don't agree with your subjective opinion about KILLERS.
the more you reply the more and more you proven how you are the "Braty Ignorant Troll" and not me so lets see if you have the intelligence/maturity to take up your own words and shut up and leave this thread already when hours ago you said you'll leave so as Superman will state again to you:
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@Voldemort said:
Gen rushing doesn't exist
And like I'll repeat then by all logical means Face Camping and Slugging is part of the game.
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Camping sluggers don't exist.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798855#Comment_1798855
How often do you face legit gen rush squads though?
In my experience you face them veeeeeeery rarely
Pre-Crossplay? Yeah I ran into a few from time to time.
Post-Crossplay? I meet ALOT of them from Xbox to PC.
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@zackdaylight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798888#Comment_1798888
I need to read and comprehend? Lmfaoo dude you literally act like a 12 year old. You said I was the one making excuses with comms and non-comms yet I brought up comms because you said “I can surely say the killers aren’t yet again OP especially with a group” and I said no ######### the killers aren’t OP when you’re in a group, because this game isn’t meant for you to be in a group with comms. It’s literally not implemented in the game. Like what? Can you read?? How is that me making an excuse? Lmfao. Are your tears covering the words on your phone?
Sigh always gotta be the ones calling others "12 years old" when whining and crying like one?....
- What does comms/non-comms have to do with how a Killer is OP or not?....because it doesn't all killers are and let me repeat are DIFFERENT it's all determinable by how the player plays correct? so with or without coms which you know we have PSN voice chat, Discord, and cellphones that replaces that non-implemented feature in the game still making your illogical argument still irrelevant.
- Yes I can read can you? you are making excuses because you aren't simply good as a survivor with or without comms and making excuses to cry about how OP Killers are when they aren't as its all player determined , "Are your tears covering the words on your phone" nah but that projection is as real as your "I'm not going to reply" bs.
How about you do what you say and not reply? I am not here for conversations with children, who wanna do "I have the last word!" bs so in the words of Superman himself:
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@DetailedDetriment said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798909#Comment_1798909
In the recent Q&A it was mentioned that Freddy will be getting changes because he is overperforming.
Wow.....
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@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798875#Comment_1798875
Yes, kill rushing. I dont understand why you are confused. Genrushing is a term that is as relative as killrushing. Doing the objective as fast as possible.
We have 70% killrate, you wont get genrush fixed unless you nerf killers or buff maps for survivor
Nerfing Killers is always happening and maps are getting reworks and revamps.....so I dont see your point? thats 70% can easily be for multiple factors from bad players, bad connections, AFK Players, the "Are you friendly" and etc.
I was dumb founded not confused my short match ever was 5 mins because the survivors wanted to rush me for their friend.
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By why is he getting nerfed?.....
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I never used it since I got the Halloween DLC.
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Soooo....
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798842#Comment_1798842
Give me an example of what you consider sabotaging a killer's gameplay for a laugh please.
Killers can't see Survivors Add-Ons or Perks....we just see their items right?
Imagine being in a Group right? you have the advantage....the top advantage over the Killer.
Imagine calling out where the killer is imagine following the killer just to be chased on purpose.
Imagine having those specific unseen Add-Ons/Perks just being toward progression of Gens and other such things just to see them teabagging and etc when you realize their plan and seeing gens be popped off because you tried to get some BP?
Gens take about 1-2 mins to do if there is no "Hex" and etc so they have this advantage and they know it and will laugh about it because they know the killer has to find and chase them to stop them from being on gens.
They are laughing literally and hypothetically and before you ask how would I know? I been in SFW with survivors like that they choose to shorten the killers game purposely for their fun be it out of boredom or not.
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@zackdaylight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798762#Comment_1798762
You either simply can’t read or you just can’t comprehend, so I’m just going to stop now. You literally are talking about things that are completely different than what I was talking about lmfaoo. Are you ok?
Nah bro you need to read and comprehend yourself because what you said for me isnt me making any excuses but proving multiple experiences playing as multiple killers.
so "lmfao" are you ok? but I'll accept your concession since you brought nothing of value here.
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@Zaytex said:
I'd argue Gen rushing is foregoing altruism (letting people die) and dedicating perks, items and behaviour to the generators only.
Yes it is they only speed run for Gens.
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@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/211454/are-gen-rushers-a-community-problem
"Gen rushing" is a problem of the game, and so is "kill rushing".
As stupid as it might sound... if you want to have genrushing fixed, you have to trade it for killrushing. The killrates are already insanly high, there is no way they gonna just nerf the gens again and leave the killer side untouched.
Kill rushing?......
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@LARI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798788#Comment_1798788
Slugging is boring for both sides.
Each their own.
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@Chechia said:
Survivors who potentially all equip their strongest toolboxes (in a SWF) are indeed problematic, at least in my opinion. Gens already go way too fast if people spread out properly.
The general gen speed problem isn't really a community problem though. You want to be efficient if you play survivor and the only objectives are gens. I don't blame people for doing that. That's something that the Devs should look into. I still have hope that a proper rework will be coming in the future. That would justify the questionable Pop nerf.
Trust me it's not the issue of them doing objective it's the fact they purposely do it to screw over the Killers for their own fun.
It's like someone waiting in a lobby got 20+ mins just to have people DC purposely to avoid getting you the proper Win.
I use Community to give an indication that it's yes a SFW concept more than Randoms (but it seems Randoms are doing this as well)
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@keygun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798829#Comment_1798829
Exactly. Gen rushing is just the other side of tunnel camping.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798832#Comment_1798832
Thanata, takes skill and tactics to use.
Just injuring 1 personal at a time does nothing, gotta hit multiple survivors.
Try the new perk Oppression.
Gen Rushing=/=Tunnel Camping by all means.
I know how to use Thantophobia I been using it since I got DbD on PS4 back in late 2017.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798832#Comment_1798832
Toxicity implies a different argument altogether. Doing gens is not toxic. Teabagging, clicky clicking, noise spamming by vaulting or jumping in lockers etc. Basically anything that is aimed at annoying the killer rather than simply doing your objective is what I would consider toxic.
Toxicity can come from Sabotaging the killers gameplay for a laugh.
Teabagging and all that other stuff is people being cocky or idiotic.
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It's always bad survivors Mainers wanting nerfs to killers lol.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798798#Comment_1798798
There are builds killers can do that make killing survivors quickly, too. I'm not sure what you mean by groups unless you mean swf. But unless its a toxic swf who are intentionally trying to annoy the killer, then there is nothing wrong with playing with your friends.
Again I understand the frustration of fast popping gens. I play killer, too. In fact I main you, Mikey. I run perks that help slow down the gens popping too quickly like corrupt and pop. I also try to apply as much pressure as I can like when I pop a tier 3 I'll try and get at least two people down with it if possible. Then that's at least two people not doing gens, and possibly a third coming to get the slug off the floor.
My point is I don't get annoyed at survivors if they come in with Prove Thyself, or tool boxes etc. I don't consider these things broken or unfair like keys and mori's. I certainly do not blame survivors for getting gens done because that is their purpose in order to escape. Its why I never subscribed to the whole "gen rush" label.
As I said....those "Purposely" so it should be a indication of me pointing out the toxicity side of survivor mainers.
As I said I have no problems with survivors doing their Objectives but to ruin the gameplay for the killer is the problem lol I keep repeating this. (I use Thantophobia to slow their progression but the perk needs to be buff to be really pressuring against such things.)
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@keygun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798818#Comment_1798818
I just flat out believe gen rushing doesn't exist.
Gen pressure is your objective, if gens get done, you're at fault.
I just flat out believe Face Camping/Slugging doesn't exist.
Killing is your objective, if a survivor get slugged or face camped, you're at fault.
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@Vetrathene said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798814#Comment_1798814
...For being greedy? For trying to get more emblems and blood points? Wow. Just...Wow.
Survivor mainers logic my man....Survivors Mainers logic....don't argue lol....it's kinda like them complaining about Face Camping/Slugging but then saying other stuff shouldn't be complained for Survivors.
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@Avilgus said:
For me "gen rushing" is just an effortless complain about survivors doing objectives effectively, the same thing with "tunneling".
Just like with Face Camping/Slugging it's all part of the Killers Objective.
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@keygun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798806#Comment_1798806
I shouldn't have to change.
Well then you never get better.
I been as effective with my build since I started and I gotten alot better than most who constantly have to change theirs.
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@DaKnight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798791#Comment_1798791
Bigger brain would be just following them around cloaked as wraith or something for 30 seconds.
Bigger Bigger brain just using insidious and having being Cloak in corners.
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@Vetrathene said:
Maybe they should remove the hatch then.
Might as well get rid of the Players sight when looking at survivors on hooks or or even just don't give the killers a basic melee attack.
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@keygun said:
Gen rushing is a YOU problem.
It means you're unwilling to change your own tactics.
I don't mean this to be offensive. There are perks that can help, breaking chase to pressure gens, or using other speedy perks to keep up.
Totems punish gen rushing, gen pressure prevents it, or speed up yourself to keep up.
Every game I play, 3 gens pop quick, but then I snowball into avalanche mode and the last 2 never get done.
I shouldn't have to change my entire build because people wanna sabotage the gameplay for killers.
And it's a "Killer Vs Survivors" problem not just a "You" problem, and this is yet again coming from someone who has been in BOTH sides.
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@Avilgus said:
For me "gen rushing" is just an effortless complain about survivors doing objectives effectively, the same thing with "tunneling".
So you can't complain about Facecamping or Slugging when it's part of the Killers own Objective lol.
Can't say one is a problem and the other isn't.
Tunneling can be easily countered anyway I don't see the point in that.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798785#Comment_1798785
That's criticizing how a killer does their objective. Whereas there is only one way to do gens and that is to do them.
I understand the frustration of gens popping fast, believe me I do. But I don't blame survivors as being gen rushers. They're just doing what they are supposed to do the only way you can do it. You get on a gen and you repair it.
Yes I know but having specific "builds" and "Groups" is what I am talking about.
That's why I am using the terms Sabotage because it's stealing the W or adventure for killers I hate waiting 10 mins in a lobby for a ranking match just to get Omega Toxic Tryhards purposely going as groups or groups of two to go around do as many gens and when it's time they pop them off nearly instantly.
It's not fun and I can experience for both sides to see a Killer DC because 3 gens were done in less than 3 seconds and then they have to worry about them just popping two more.
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So a killer doing their Objective is bad??
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Just like with "Gen Rushing" it's an "Non-existing" thing.
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@vintageethot said:
DS needs a rework, it can be abused way too easily. Make it so that DS is active for 30 seconds, but the timer pauses in chase. DS can also deactivate if someone else gets unhooked or if you do anything to progress the game, such as healing or doing a generator/gate.
Now this is big brain right here.
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Legion Mainers should just be sluggers.
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@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798780#Comment_1798780
i'm agreeing with you, was being sarcastic about your comment because i thought it'd be funny :)
That's cool but I think we need perks to be Buffed over the Killers powers.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798744#Comment_1798744
Its not as real as OP killers. You can make an argument for some killers being overly oppressive, like Freddy, based on all they can do in their base kit with no perks or add ons. Whereas with the whole idea of "gen rushing" its criticizing survivors for doing the one thing they are supposed to do in order to escape.
It's the same concept why on why Survivors Criticize the concept of "Face Camping" or "Slugging" if it's part of their "Gameplay" and Objective to get Sacrifices? You see where I'm getting at here?
If Gen Rushing (aka the Sabotaging of the Killers Gameplay) isn't seen as real then neither is the terms Slugging or Face Camping because it's part of the killers own "Sacrifice" methods.
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@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1798769#Comment_1798769
wait you mean the game isn't challenging for survivors? say it isn't so!!!1 <Sarcasm off> yea that is true.
Sarcasm or not there is people saying this game doesn't favour the Survivors.
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@Stealth said:
Are all the bugged killers due the the twins or is it a coincidence?
That's a Theory! A Behaviour Interactive THEORY!
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@Aven_Fallen said:
I have seen Hills spawn on Autohaven-Maps, also on Gas Heaven. So they are not removed.
That being said, it would be nice to have a guaranteed Balanced Landing-Spot on every Map (outside of the Basement Stairs), it is already the weakest Exhaustion Perk since its Nerf (But hey - Haddonfield is alright now, eh?).
And I am as well disappointed that the big joke called Shelter Woods did not receive any Updates. But Autohaven Maps are now full of Deadzones and Ormond got reworked balance-wise as well. Damn, those Survivor-sided Devs.
Naaah someone told me it's the Killers being sooooo OP! Survivors surely can't be favored when everything else gets nerfed!