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They are nowhere near “practically guaranteed”.
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Not something you’ll find me complaining about.
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My boy trapper finally made it out the hood…
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I get pretty consistent value. Only times I don’t, I can say it’s usually user error.
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@fussy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3559695#Comment_3559695
Yes, I've had the same matches, but it's very rare when it turns out to catch a survivor in a really good deadzone, from where you can't reach the locker. It's a good strategy to help with, and i know about it, but still too rng and luck depends. Thank you anyway!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3559685#Comment_3559685
Thank you! This is probably the only option out of all answers that I haven't thought about and haven't tried.
Also thanks to everyone who answered!
For sure. Dropping mmr is probably the easiest way to accomplish it.
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So when I got mine done, I was able to kill off 3 like normal. The last guy wouldn’t get out of the locker. I’d grab, let him wiggle, and he’d go straight back in.
I eventually got him by grabbing him and letting him wiggle off elevation which gave him stagger, not giving him enough time to get to a locker. Something to keep in mind!
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Wesker and blight for sure. Both offer skill expression on both sides. Both can keep up with skilled survivors.
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@HaunterofShadows said:
Oni and Demo are the epitome of balanced
Mmmmmm. Oni can have a very tough time against decent survivors who deny him an injure for awhile.
I personally feel like demo is weak.
Edit - oni when his blood orbs were bugged felt PERFECT to me.
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@Senaxu said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3559167#Comment_3559167
Thank you for confirming my previously stated statement.
We definitely agree that there was at least one cheater in this video. The last two (dwight survivor) are debatable. These could really have been twitch streamers and were exceptionally unlucky with the skill checks several times, but we can confirm this wesker was a cheater.
Now it has been officially confirmed by BHVR (you can research this) that 60k accounts were banned for cheating/hacking in 2022 alone, which, by the way, corresponds to around 165 accounts per day. Aside from the fact that this is an immense achievement by BHVR and all the players who took the time to report and ban these scammers (ticket, video evidence), it is quite shocking that there are still players who believe that there are no cheaters in this game because they themselves (for reasons already mentioned) have not had this experience.
I have to smile a little now because it reminds me a lot of the Flat Earth Society. You can also overwhelm them with facts and try to explain to them that there is a problem with their theory, but they are still happy in their world.
What else needs to be noted: BHVR is not to blame here either. It's the players who decide to cheat, tunnel, camp, tbag, dc's, etc. Unfortunately, the community is the real problem in the game, as sad as it is. If you look at what the developers have improved since I started the game (early 2018), it's an amazing achievement and really need to be mentioned at this point. However, many problems still exist and a lot of that lies with the players themselves.
I didn’t confirm anything. I’m not the “typical DBD player”. I have been playing since release, and I play a LOT, every single day. More than enough that I should be experiencing all of this “subtle cheating” and “blatant hacking”.
The facts you’re bringing up are from 2022, when very blatant hackers were in 2-3/5 of my games. BHVR has since implemented changes, and we are nearing the end of 2023, and I have not seen cheaters since.
Am I saying cheaters don’t exist? Not at all. But I would be willing to bet all my chips that all of this “subtle cheating” people are complaining about, is copium for not being able to catch survivors, or vice versa can’t last more than 10 seconds in chase.
Proof of that, is in my own post - game chats when killers and survivors alike (playing both roles) accuse me of hacking simply because I’m better than they are and they needed an outlet to cope.
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@Senaxu said:
That's exactly the problem and a sad fact, the typical DBD average player doesn't recognize subtle cheaters due to their lack of gaming experience or doesn't play enough to encounter the obvious hackers themselves.
I can guarantee it's worse than they think. In 2022, BHVR confirmed that it had banned 60k cheaters; in 2022, mind you, the number of unhandled(subtle) cases is much higher.
The video:
https://youtu.be/tcVbVen8oc8?si=vMz0Y5Eq46yae53n
Don't let the title fool you. The Cheat Festival starts at 5:20
To be fair, it’s Otz, and the same cheater. If somebody were to cheat for the sake of attention, they would target people like Otz.
I don’t believe all these people are experiencing cheaters at the rate they suggest, if at all.
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@Senaxu said:
You have to get used to Cheater/Hacker in DBD since there is no automated cheat protection.
Otzdarva recently posted a video where he run into 3 obvious cheaters in a few hours. There are alot more that are just subtle and no way to ban them.
Still people will spend there money in skins and cry about how bad the game is and that is the real problem and that is also a reason why the priorities are that way.
If you have no fun, don't support it.
Just scrolled through 6 months of otz and didn’t see a cheater video. Please link.
A lot of the “cheating” examples I see in here probably have easy explanations. I’m not seeing all these cheaters y’all are seeing lol.
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Don’t try to mindgame / respect all the time. Good survivors will immediately test your respect level of pallets, and will absolutely abuse you if you respect everything.
I will test survivors. If they are pallet throwing meg heads, I’ll just respect everything and get free breaks. If they are survivors who capitalize off of respect, I’ll mix it up. I get tons of free hits and downs on survivors who expect a respect or mindgame.
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@GannTM said:
I mean I would say they should make more killers like Artist because she’s the most fun to me, but fun is subjective, so it’s hard to say what kind of killers BHVR should be making. You can’t really please everyone but you can please as many people as possible if you keep releasing unique killers that have different ways of making them fun.
Artist and fun do not belong in the same sentence. She’s a hold W queen, and holding w is the most boring mechanic in the game.
Get to loop, she drops bird, hold w to next loop, repeat.
If you love her that’s great, but I’d delete her in a second. xD Absolutely despise hold W killers.
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Jeryl will always be my favorite survivor….
R.I.P Jeryl :(
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Optimal use of a perk is not “abuse”
That term is used so loosely. God forbid somebody plays optimally.. they are “abusers”.
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@ReverseVelocity said:
It's probably like 3.
I'm more of a protection hit gamer than a beamer save gamer I think.
We love our mettle of man gamers too
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@fussy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3558060#Comment_3558060
An inexperienced killer has no place here. Does this perk doing his job? No doubt. Does it do its job well? Yes. You can have value from it anytime? No, because it's niche perk. Gongats, you discovered good niche perk.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3558082#Comment_3558082
This does not mean that the perk should allow you to make saves from 20 meters. Sabo is also very situational perk, does it mean we should buff it to brake all hooks in 32 area at once? It doesn't work so. Escape killer's grasp is a big deal, so you can't expect some constant value from this perk.
The perk doesn’t allow me the hit a save from 20m away. The killer does. MAJORITY of killers after the first save will adapt, and it won’t happens again.
Like @Xernoton said, an experienced killer will just deal with the person going for saves.
Once I know I have beams following me with BP… they aren’t going to get any value. It’s too easy to counter.
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@GensByDaylight said:
7 beam, 1 pallet, against a trapper who didn't understand what a wall was. He kept downing a new-ish solo q teamate, and kept picking her up. It was hilarious that he didn't adapt to what was happening.
That’s crazy! We get killers like this from time to time that definitely don’t belong in the lobby they’re in.
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@Steakdabait said:
Epic beamer save farm build lmao. The only stat i want to know is how many teammates you had mald at you in endgame chat for hovering the killer all game.
I was in a full SWF so they were chillin! Haha
@fussy said:
Yeah, this perk definitely needs this buff. 100+ perks that do almost nothing can wait another 3 years or so, while we buff already strong perks, lol.
You don’t ever see this kind of value from BP. It’s rare it actually works.
@HarlockTaliesin said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/393393/beam-pallet-save-pr
What killer let you get that off w/o tunneling you out?
@Xernoton said:
How is that even possible? If that happened to me, I'd deal with you after the second save.
Nevertheless, congrats. That's quite impressive.
@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557996#Comment_3557996
Background Player a strong Perk? Really?
Only because OP went against a pretty inexperienced Killer (not throwing anything against OP here, but someone who lets themselves blind 8 times while picking up a Survivor is really not good or experienced) does not make the Perk suddenly good.
It was a pretty inexperienced knight who insta picked everything. Never really checked for shooters. He was protecting a 3 gen pretty hard so he would drop chase with anybody who started taking him away from it.
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skull merchant, knight, and I’m really not a fan of wraith either.
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@xltechno said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557581#Comment_3557581
First you need to feel safe.
Some people compare the killer plays of some top players and say, ``Killers can win normally, it's a matter of skill.''
In fact, top players themselves admit that we live in an era where you can't win with the M1 Killer.
I win with m1 all the time. So do many players. What “top player” is saying you can’t win with m1 in pub matches?
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557596#Comment_3557596
doubt it.
the second part specifically.
Agreed. HIGHLLLYYY doubt that second part. A lot of the people on here post things that reek of low skill / low game knowledge.
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Wow, so y’all just don’t want any kind of variety huh? God forbid they make other perks viable.
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557315#Comment_3557315
You're completely right about the altruism aspect of SWF groups. They want that 4-man escape. They want to get that save, especially during EGC or against a camper. They will try to prevent a direct tunnel. All of this should be taken advantage of by the killer.
It's how despite being on Red Forrest or in the swamps or whatever as my beloved Piggy I still do unusually well against those groups. I'll sometimes pull them all down into the basement, or intercept the savior and snowball. Understanding and taking advantage of their tactics & tendencies.
I’ve had many solid teams ended up giving me a 4k because of altruism, after kicking my butt most of the game. It happens allll the time. From 2-3 hooks in 5 gens to a 4k because they couldn’t let the last man die. XD
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“As killer you immediately know when you play a SWF”
The amount of times I’ve had killers just assume we were all SWF in post game chat (entirely solo q), then deny deny deny the possibility of us being solo Q is insane. It’s such a fallback excuse… “I only lost because SWF”
SWF does not = good
SWF does not = comms
SWF does not always = better than solo q.
You cannot punish players for playing with friends. You cannot punish players for playing with friends. You cannot punish players for playing with friends.
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@ProHillbillyMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555809#Comment_3555809
So the Blight has the second best ability in the game, the best when you use his addons. Do you think having an addon that breaks pallets in 1.5s and give the survivor hindered 3% is fine? Having an addon that instantly replenishes your power, having an addon that gives you 4 upsides , Turn angle, +2 rushes, +10% Speed and 1s faster token recharge and a little downside to his turn rate and most importantly speed addons that have also 0 downside?
What happened with hug tech you said last year in may that it's a bug and it will be fixed(may 2022), we are in october 2023 and people are still using this exploit to this day.
You are not a dev so it's not your fault, however an update on this would be fine after such a long time.
Bro, she LITERALLY said they are looking at the addons. What are you talking about?! 😭
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@NewPlayer100102 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557044#Comment_3557044
It comes up because people do not want to do it.
It will keep coming up until the game is shut down because people will never want to do it.
The rationalizations on both sides are sad.
SWF is a harder match.
Killer is not compensated for the work and most don't enjoy it.
Messing with the status quo on the topic threatens income.
So OFC, this won't be changed.
The community could however say " Yah, its harder cause coordination and familiarity, so you have to work harder to entertain them."
Dude…. SWF does not equate to a harder match. That’s the biggest misconception. MOST SWF’s are no better than your average solo Q team, maybe even WORSE because they are more prone to the circle of altruism.
@Venusa said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3557044#Comment_3557044
Permission to quote this response whenever a "new" account makes a discussion about this same topic for the hundredth time?😭
Yes, please do! 🥹
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No, you can not opt out of SWF. You have never been able to. You cannot currently do it. You will never BE able to. This has been made very clear by devs. Idk why this thread comes up so often.
You cannot punish people for playing with their friends.
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Is there some patch notes out? Am I missing somethin?
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Run kindred.
Also, SWF does not mean “on comms”. Plenty of SWF play with no voice communication.
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Same reason why killers cheat. Or anybody else cheats. It’s not a “survivor” thing.
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@MrDrMedicman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3554659#Comment_3554659
Mft is not fine by any stretch. It's stupidly op because, after a single hit, the survivor is now halfway across the map (tested with oni blood drops). Catching up to this ONE survivor will cost you a gen of progress, multiply by 3 because survivors happened to start separated
The obv solution is not to commit to the survivor and focus gen pressure, he heals and it's a full reset with no hooks while you're up against ANOTHER survivor with mft. I routinely see 2-3 a game
The only reason survivors aren't winning is because they 3 gen themselves, or go for twitch clips
A good change would be to make it an exhaustion perk, and give you exhaustion for the duration of the endurance effect. This now makes it a tactical choice, and gives killers who can't instant down a shot at countering it with smart perk choice
I just haven’t been struggling with MFT. I’ve been doing just fine in my killer games. 🤷🏻♂️
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Her audio is directional, so you can hear where she’s coming from. Predrop pallets and mindgame. Don’t try and camp a pallet.. you 9/10 times won’t react fast enough.
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Blight is my main, but I usually do a killer roulette any given day, so I play all of them.
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@TotemSeeker91 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555033#Comment_3555033
It's been a while, what's hug-tech again?
It’s where you can slide off of particular tiles / objects by bouncing off the / an object, and getting close to the object before starting your next rush, allowing you to glide across the surface.
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Speaking strictly on hardware and components, yes. My PC is leagues better and stronger than a console could ever hope to be.
Outside of DBD, PC is even more substantially better than console.
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@FilthyLegionRevival said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555036#Comment_3555036
Can confirm, got bullied by a Dwight on Gas Heaven whilst trying to do it.
Hug techs will not work on actual good survivors. I’ve been preaching this! Lol
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555158#Comment_3555158
is the power not recharging for a while the shoelace bug?
The shoelace bug is when you go for a rush and blight goes into the rush animation for a split second then goes back into fatigue and must inject serum and wait for recharge again. It literally looks like he trips on untied shoelaces as soon as you go to rush.
I get this bug the most out of any of them. Especially when using ring.
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Sure does.
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3554659#Comment_3554659
Why discriminate someone only because they want the best possible outcome of the match?
Because it’s scummy. Can you do it? Sure. Should you? No, probably not if you’re a considerate person. I main killer, and I don’t slug for the 4k outside of doing an adept (which I don’t become I’m 100% on adepts) because…
When I play survivor, it absolutely SUCKS being slugged because the killer wants to go find the other survivor and deny them hatch. I don’t know anybody who plays a survivor match and says “oh man I REALLY hope the killer slugs for the 4k… that would be so much fun!”
If everybody hates it, why shouldn’t we discriminate against it and try to get it changed? Slugging for the 4k is unhealthy and you won’t change my mind.
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555081#Comment_3555081
This i definitely agree with.
Old Billy was so fun to verse and play as. He truly was a balanced healthy killer, pretty much universally loved. All he needed was the engravings better death with.
As far as Blight is concerned, it's hard to be unbiased because I'm forced to run him with a controller. Against him I for some reason usually did well, but playing as him I felt so limited.
What really needs to happen is tweak several add-ons and fix the dozens of collision issues first, leaving his base as is. If all that actually happens, then let's talk about techs.
I wish M&K support was added for console players. He is so much more fun on m&k… which is probably the case for the entire killer roster.
I would agree his addons need work. Alch ring + c33 essentially makes me unbeatable in pub matches. Less experienced players won’t get the same value, but these addons turn good blights into an unstoppable killer to your average team.
I would also agree with you on that last bit. You cannot go after his techs until collision is fixed. BUT as history shows, tweaking collision has always messed things up… creating new techs or bugs.
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555111#Comment_3555111
don't forget random extra cooldowns, power not recharging when it should be, some attacks just don't have a hitbox, some lethal rush attacks just work like a normal lunge for some reason, blights a mess
The shoelace bug dude…. Don’t get me started. It’s so frustrating. That and double fatigue annoy me the most, and they happen nearly every game.
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@radiantHero23 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555109#Comment_3555109
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555106#Comment_3555106
Ok, my question is then, do we want killers like Demo or Nemesis be viable in most levels of play?
It's about making a general strength level and making all killers a bit closer to that.
Nurse and Blight are levels above the other killers. Only spirit, plague and Artist come close to them.
That's not ok.
If we want more killers to be viable, small changes to their power will not be enough ( Trapper). The game needs big balance changes.
But we can't make them with those killers being way stronger than the rest. They need both be tuned down for the sake of balancing out the others.
I strongly disagree. In what world should a trapper, wraith, or Freddy, be even remotely close to blight in strength? The mechanical difference warrants the drastic difference. It’s important to have your weaker killers who are simple and easy to play, and have much stronger killers who require much more mechanical input, thought, and game knowledge to use.
If every killer is generally in the same realm, it’s boring.
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@MimiDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3555065#Comment_3555065
So he has 10 bugs that make him weaker? And he is still an S-tier killer?
Blight and Nurse need nuked. I honestly don't care how. That's what Blight mains and the devs are for. My opinion (which I'm allowed to have) says Blight needs more than just add-on nerfs.
Some of this is also jealousy since I main Pig, Freddy, Clown, and Mike. What he has as a whole is just stupid compared to my killers. I find that ass backwards.
We shouldn’t advocate for anything in the game to be “nuked”. What happened to billy was absolutely disgraceful and should never happen again.
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@pizzavessel15 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3554659#Comment_3554659
oh you're one of those survivors lmao your suggestions are to give the survivors best chance possible.
I’m a killer main guy, and I believe slugging for the 4k is a huge waste of everybody’s time and only utilized to stroke egos. Nobody enjoys a killer that can’t FATHOM not getting his 4k every game.
Stop complaining about legit survivor builds because you decided to go against the grain when they are in full effect. It’s literally the consequences of your actions.
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Finally, a blight thread where there’s a bunch of people with sense and not the typical, ”iTs aN eXpOiT cAuSe tHE dEvS sAiD sO tWo yEaRs aGo” or “tHeRe iS nO cOuNtEr waahhhhhhh”
Hug tech is perfectly fine, and adds depth and skill expression to chase. Bump logic is more reliable for consistency, but hug tech is more fun.
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Bro, you can’t call for a nerf when you think DPI is an exploit… I’m sorry…
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It’s not like the frustration isn’t warranted. Who in their right mind thinks 3 gen SM is healthy for the game?
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@pizzavessel15 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3553637#Comment_3553637
why should I hook the other survivor and risk the survivor still sanding getting hatch?
Oh you’re one of THOSE killers… just hook the guy and move on with the game, and you would have avoided this whole situation. Hope is fine, MFT is fine. If he ran you around the whole map, there’s some work to be done on your end as well.
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@Xernoton said:
I agree with many of these but I don't think Lery's is the absolute worst for Blight, Bubba and Billy.
For Blight I'm not completely sure. Would be nice to hear the opinion of an actual Blight main on this.
But Billy and Bubba have worse maps than Lery's. Lery's is pretty terrible for them but they can still use their powers and sometimes get a hit. In my opinion Garden of Misery takes the cake for Billy. It's ridiculously stacked, has terrible collisions and that obnoxious main building. It's also overall a much stronger map than Lery's. For Bubba I'm not 100% sure. I have my problems playing him on Mother's Dwelling. You really feel his lack of map pressure there. And of course there are these terrible bushes again.
Yea Lery’s is doable for blight. Definitely not his worst. Lots of long hallways for quick traversal, and many of the pallets are square / rectangular and flat so they can be hug teched.
I’d take Lery’s over yamaoka and swamp.