FayeZahara
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I kinda wish it was netflix ghostface with that mori. Uhhhh it hurts my soul
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@MegsAreEvil said:
And there we go again. another killer main thinking he can get any refunds. the joke gets old man.
oh look someone who doesn't want anyone to think about refunds for not up to par quality products. Its almost as if he never invested his cash into the quality of the product. Things like kickstarters should just take the money and not deliver on what there selling. Noone should care about there money as soon as goes out door.
Thanks for another nerf to Freddy bE. Really do you just want to refund everyone who bought his DLC at this point?What nerf are you talking about? Haven't seen anything on new freddy power. Was something announced?
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Watched the mori and cringed cause i thought it was a joke.
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in honesty all those boxes would contain broken keys. Like her first trap which would kill them. But you can play like amanda if you bring them to exit gate and push them to suicide threshold. Your not respecting the rules of jigsaws game and forcing the death. That one survivor feels cheated out of life and her bear trap goes off. Why would amanda play the hook game when she can kill them by a games design. Why will forever hate nerf cause even ebony moris were sad option. That mori is also straight up murder not an unfair sense of the game she is more known for. If she put on an instant kill bear trap would feel essence of amanda.
Kramer would have no hooks in game and only control the map with his selection of tests. Never being part of match besides the observer.
Logan becomes best pig option with current pig cause he has fewest discrepancies as a pig. Matt and lawrence can be argued as failers of jigsaw teachings. Matt first trap was intended to kill not be fair. Lawrence puts matt into his trap without the game escape. But they did make plenty of fair games also beyond there sins.
@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/463417#Comment_463417
Not exactly, in Kramers cases all of his traps offered a way out so by pure conception the fact that you can take the trap off in the first place is jigsaws ruleset. Amanda set her traps up to kill the person. There was no way out....EVER. There was no attempt to have them learn a lesson, it was simply die. So if this game wanted to be true to amandas rules, as soon as you had a bear trap on you would be dead, no matter if the exit gates opened no matter if the gens got done, no matter which box you searched none of them would work. And in a game environment that would be oppressive as hell and broken.
If you want to play the game amanda would you could easily do so in dead by daylight with a few simple modifications.....First rule. Bring an ebony mori.
Thats it, thats all you need. For Amanda it was never about redemption, it was about retribution.
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Syringe killer would be intresting cause enjoyed the enemies from the game the suffering. Also have 2 syringe characters so i like syringes. Just if injected by one will cry like a #########.
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The love for amanda is amazing. Hopefully we will push something through to devs. Im done with game for another game but hopeful that pigs who care for amanda get her being amazing again. I can always hear rare pig mains that snipe at endgame pig. But fact so much pigs loved her cause she was so amanda. Makes me cry a little cause so heartwarming people care for her.
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No they were active and had to get off before exit. So if got trapped would die if exited. They were easy to get off but at endgame she can patrol jigsaw boxes like gens to stop a single survivor from getting it off. So that survivor sometimes had to pushed to suicide. But also the team could leave that 1 survivor behind. That would open the hatch which 1 survivor could escape through.
So now can't play game of get to hatch first and accept suicide to killer if lose. That or let endgame take you away as single survivor. 25% Chance to get off her trap definitely not trapping them all to death. Pigs in endgame can only get 1 survivor but often get the elusive bear trap kill.
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There very stylized after movies. There quite beautiful ^u^ so enjoy. Too bad her leather outfit cosmetic doesn't have an axe. Though with an axe think her ambush look wierd probally.
@thrawn3054 said:
I love piggy, so probably.
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@gantes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/463417#Comment_463417
I'm playing her efficiently and to have fun, not in some made-up lore glorifying way.
You don't like how a character plays, don't play them. Plenty of killers I don't play and I don't ######### about them in forums. I don't ######### that the Nurse is all precision and less about mindgames, I play Spirit instead, for example.
Putting all your eggs on endgame shows you're not really good at fundamentals.
I enjoyed how she played cause it was fun that she was most immersive killer. I bought her cause i respect franchise and seeing it done right. If you don't care about the structure of character then don't buy the licensed character. (Video game movies buy characters and go lets give them hip hop cringe version) Don't even comment on character cause your speaking from a shallow stranger looking in perspective. You don't care about story so really can't comment on others disapproval of character representation.
You can enjoy your boring rinse and repeat fundamentals with games like call of duty. But some people actually like to experiment and try to cross borders of initial game intention.
Also play someone else attitude is silly cause why not play all of those character you purchased if you want too. Why be restricted to select few killers in power and immersive department. You paid for a character shouldn't you be treated to one. Everyone is being sold for same price so deserve same respect.
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@gantes said:
You guys are aware that if the nerf makes that much of a difference to you, you were probably playing her wrong right?
Just to be sure.
Not everything in this game has to be an insurance for after you fail your job at preventing gens to be done.
You know your playing her like an original killer? You are the one who were playing amanda young wrong. By the books pig mask saw killer is more other pigs style. Mark Hoffman, Logan Nelson, and Lawrence Gordon could be acceptable choices with that playstyle. Jill Kramer and Amanda Young are pigs that would of played the endgame way you have mistaken as wrong. John Kramer pig would be okay with these changes i would have to ask nerf away hooks also. Cause his aim is to not kill but to leave the tools of redemption for survivors.
Pigs want amanda young back or another pig to take the mantle. Tis all we ask with silly not needed nerf
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@Milo said:
@FayeZahara Thanks. I don't find them good tbh. (except maybe the top in the 1st set)
I enjoy both cause outfits she wore in saw films. Intresting everyone likes that cosmetic out of them. I think that top showcases buff forearms though xD
Edit: It was always a cute top would enjoy wearing myself when first saw it in film.
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@Milo said:
Wait what cosmetics? Could you link them?
I'll surround you with the beautiful cosmetics <3
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So let me get this straight... You add an end game timer that nobody really asked for, and in the process you kill an already struggling killer.
They wanted to remove a playstyle they didn't like. Even though they didn't care about character needing playstyle to actually embody amanda young. They want her to be a play fair jigsaw killer. Trouble is she isn't like that where her traps are wait and see escape. I was worried when she was gonna play by the rules. I was suprised that you could push a single survivor into bear trap death situation at endgame. Made her not the strongest killer but most immersive reminding me of her first trap in movies. Also made the rules of if you don't leave then all will have same fate. Felt like with this change they said "You can't mess with amanda during endgame at all so lets give survivors time to gloat. Lets never play many games and just rinse and repeat the one strategy of hooks only"
The one thing that annoys me about those who defend these changes. They say "Your supposed to use the traps during game to be a good pig" when this isn't an original killer. Its amanda young and to be a good amanda you save all those traps for the end. Jigsaw is all about climatic ends and it is damn disrespectful to franchise to remove that.
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Guess us amanda young loving pigs are getting more clothes. Guess they never learned can't put makeup on a dead pig. Alive pigs however would enjoy this on the old amanda young.
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I hate these changes cause makes me feel like they don't understand how to make immersive licensed killer. People don't buy killer for balance but to embody amanda. Now i see there gonna give cosmetics to amanda young who is nothing like her character. There treating her franchise like trash and think using her likeness for just the money.
They destroyed freddy in immersion and people let it slide cause 1 iconic killer out of 4 was bad quality. Now were getting 2 unimmersive killers with pig changes. Also hearing rumors that new ghostface chapter is just the mask. So if there just using scream mask to make a cash grab. Gonna be hating dbd to very core. Won't purchase it and support game no longer if they just want to treat a game where play as killer. As game play as wildly different version of killer.
I'm so not ready for 3 unimmersive killers and 2 good enough immersive licensed killers. Why even play when they don't respect personalities of those icons.
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Then not understanding amanda young. This is not another original killer where her traps aren't important. I can only say these changes would be reasonable on a different pig. Cause those who love saw franchise got ripped off with this change. Forcing a suicide for 1 survivor is a way to cheat her trap. She never played by the rules so to balance 1 fair game playstyle for a single survivor. Most pigs will manage 1 bear trap around endgame since not so hard to get off. The trap is only deadly when an exit gate opens. Just more incentive to not screw around and let trapped person take the hatch escape. Its outstanding when people think there no escape to pig trap in endgame. They just wanted a 4 survivor escape for pig. Instead of letting her be Amanda and get only 1 survivor.
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@BlazeNightash said:
The problem is nerfing any killers atm lol. Most are trash. Very few viable killers against good players
So true. Seems like understandable why killers turn into survivors. Not much choice specially when can goof on killers and ruin there enjoyment.
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That change was a two way street. Killers got free whispers with that. Survivors got a spine chill with that.
Now that the RBT stops ticking while in Pig's terror radius, the color of the trap changes from RED to GREY, letting the Pig know exactly where you are.But its a horrible change for other reasons. They should of just left it alone.
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I play pig and think unfair to 3 survivors though still not fair to lose your traps either. Think the buff need is for her to be changed back to her glorious amanda young days ♡
Think maybe a jigsaw box should be connected to survivor and shut down with dc. That way have less ground to cover with boxes.
But let endgame pig kill her single survivor and be amanda young. Forcing the trap death onto those want to punish. That is the true buff she needs.
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@Judith said:
She is in heaven with me and Legions. No you silly thing I didn't forgot Freddy.
2 dead licensed killers
1 dead original killer
Why must we lose these poor souls
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I hope they won't be deaf to immersive fun amanda young for 2 years. Since people actually cared about her character being not destroyed like this.
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I know not many loved amanda young in jigsaw franchise and always hear because of acting. But i do enjoy amanda story and her narrative as a cheating pig. The one thing she never truly understood from mentor. She wanted those to suffer and not win any of her games.
I'm in pit of sadness cause nerfed her power like most original killers. But they killed her spot as most immersive killer.
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Ok these changes are pretty f#$^&* stupid the pig is literally a end game killer. Her traps stall for end game so neuter pig because why?
Because they don't understand immersive killers. She was top tier in that department where she could force her traps death onto a single survivor. Kinda just like how she cheated all her games to force the trap on survivor. She couldn't for some reason have an endgame during the endgame for ridiculous reasons. Plus her endgame ussually comes before gates are even open. Only securing 1 survivor wasn't that bad of a thing to take away. Her endgame also had counterplay but no survivor choose to use it. The counterplay is leaving 1 survivor as a team behind.
There doing it to get rid of pigs that forced 1 survivor to suicide. They dictating her like an original character where they go. "You can't play her like that cause feels like cheating to 1 survivor." So the immersive pig players like me are to blame for playing her like amanda young.
I was such a fan of dbd from day 1 but if i showed this game now to past self. I would of never invested in it with how much has changed. Along with how much that hasn't changed either. You put your heart into something for 4 years and hope they won't be those game companies you despise . I think im sad i lost starbreeze studios cause i really don't know who was hearing us. I'm starting to think they had our best intrests in heart <3
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@OMagic_ManO said:
Woah, I don't have my head wrapped around this.
could be as simple as bloody glass shard candy. Which we know who that fits.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
Amanda... As I survivor, I hate and respect your perk Surveillance and Make Your Choice...
Glad her perk surveillance got some love cause i avoided that perk.
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odd rule for games that you can hurt adults and teens but kids are off the table. Since they are our future while teens are just obnoxious or look like there 30 years old.
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@Judith said:
I am actually scared they might turn this game into battle royale or something with battle passes and loot boxes.
yeah i did this form and saw that thing that kinda reminded me of a battlepass. but if its like a 3$ pass and makes grind for skins actually obtainable. Sad but i think would enjoy it rather then 10$ cool cosmetic system we got now. With how badly priced those cosmetics are would even welcome loot boxes.
Not a fan of those systems but i played overwatch free trial. And i felt less ripped off on cosmetic grind even though gave you ridiculous stuff in middle. I would probally feel less ripped off buying lootboxes cause the set price isn't easily displayed prominently.
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
That video gave me the same shivers that I got when I first watched the saw movies 1 after the other and put the plot altogether and saw the bigger picture. Like damn those were some good times.
Every twist and turn got explored except for lawrence pig twist ending. Amandas was so sad cause she had to cheat her games no matter what. Feel like kramers last words to her ring so true now.
Edit: Though new pig mask logan has yet to be really explored much either.
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@Mr_Myers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/443402#Comment_443402
@FayeZahara I can think of ONE killer who plays like their movies...
was it amanda before changes or micheal
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Are they any statistics you're dying to know? Maybe what the most used perks are? Or possibly what the survival rates are on different maps?
any pigs that don't think she is dead yet might as well plea for amandas life one last time. Pigs besides me got banned in twitch while they disscussed the changes. I hope we can break through something with amanda young. Nothing seems to connect with them not thinking it was a glorious needed change for a single survivor.
Edit 1:
Feel hopeless like when freddy got showcased and was shown to be worst immersive killer. But they kept patting self on back for adding the dream realm which isn't only thing about freddy. Now feel they will repeat self and pig will have to wait 2 years to feel like amanda young.
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Feel also less hopeless cause seems more saw fans care about amanda young playing like herself. When talk immersive pig talk don't get scoffed at cause we all want to play like amanda young.
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She doesn't act like amanda but a pigmask in changes coming. So if she got this cosmetic it just be a further insult to people who love the character.
Now if they got rid of amanda and put in cosmetics for hoffman, kramer, logan, lawrence or the two mystery pig masks. I left out jill cause she is kinda like amanda with her using only 1 trap that had no option of escape.
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@RainyAnjel said:
@FayeZahara Im a saw fan so that hurts me :(
@TAG I love playing weak killers. I dont like the in between killers though.... Nurse, Spirit, and Huntress are my mains atm so I like being stupid lol
Thanks all!
Yes it hurts immensly really was stoked to hear immersive freddy is coming. But im less stoked about game with current pig. I'm now worried for leatherface and myers that they will get original killer treatment. Also starting to believe less that devs are making an immersive freddy. That is my dream but it will probally be out of touch interpretation of killer like current freddy.
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If buy it then buy it for power. Cause new pig is not amanda young. Its like buying current freddy. Gonna get a ######### immersive version of killer. If they weren't changing pig i would say its best dlc. I would be suggesting this dlc if pig had no changes. She is a follow the rules pig and its not liked among pig mains. I feel more jigsaw fans are heartbroken. So as long as not saw fan you should buy the dlc.
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@Chicagopimp2019 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/435669#Comment_435669
@Saint_Ukraine Thats what im afraid of. I think hes pretty viable right now, but who knows whats going to happen after the rework.
if its a viable power it can be used for another killer. But you make freddy showcase his personality from films in gameplay. Like pig used to play like <3
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@DCh4rlie said:
Hoffman would've been better anyway 🐖
Hoffman would fit changes well cause he only cares about killing those in the way. Only trap he cheated was his 1st one. He always played by the game after working under john. Lawrence pig doesn't have much to go with except that he throws away tool for his game.
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https://youtu.be/razKoRogbhA@XavierBoah17 said:
I have a few words
*Steps up to the podium*
I never really got to know Amanda Young, but from what I've heard. She was really dedicated to her work and overall a really thoughtful person. There were rumors about her being a killer of some sort but in reality she was just a misunderstood woman.
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@Hag.is.Dtier said:
RIP Pig, another horror icon butchered by behaviour. Let's hope the ghostface rumours aren't true.
i bet its our favourite licensed killer next and its butchered to bits. So can shed an early tear for your favourite licensed killer not playing like movie counterpart.
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After qna they said they understood and fixed the one thing noone cared about.
She should play like amanda again and not an original killer.
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We need a different pig now more then ever if this is how they want to make her play as fair jigsaw killer. Amanada isn't fair and they should stop trying to fix playstyle that had people playing like the killer actually.
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I would accept this stuipid change if the pig was john kramer or other pig mask killers.
The fact it is amanda is stuipidest ######### ever seen that it semi melts the brain away.
She cheats so having traps during endgame is perfect cause she can push a single survivor to kill themselves. Her following what her character is in movies is amazing. She definitely for revenge would kill them and also make her traps go off on her own terms.
Kramer is straight by the books and probally wouldn't hook anyone as killer but this change would be understandable. Cause he is following rules that him and survivors could agree too. Play the game only 1 way and if survive deserve to live.
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@Sentry said:
Have you played the pig one of the many pre ptb strats is to use at least two traps before 2 gens are done then save to to put pressure for the end game almost all pig mains had some way of using endgame in their style. Have the abilty to hook a survive and bait a altriustic survivor to save them and then being able have chance at kill the person with the rtb is so crucial to her charcter.
Its almost as if they don't understand pig john kramer and pig amanda. This change would make sense on john kramer cause he played the game by all the rules set in place. Amanda is the polar oppisite of that so she has to use traps and force deaths by her breaking the invisible survivor rules. These people need to watch her in franchise and see how she is a tottally fair killer xD
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@Tungsten said:
Pig is now just the wraith now, but can stall the game out barely, compared to what she did before which was put pressure on the survivors. 1 play style im now forced to play
Variety is a wierd thing they like to avoid in this game... so wierd. Hopefully got a replacement for pig. Im hoping freddy is good cause i will probally replace pig with him. Just wish could play all killers equal and have same fun variety. Game feels like it pushes killers back to choosing a main and staying in that comfort zone.
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@DeadGavin said:
@FayeZahara Wanting a refund on a product does not mean you want quality in the product it means you want to return the product.
The change to pig is not equivalent to changing an aquada car to no longer be able to drive on water, that is ridiculous.
I will care about the game in my own way, I am not telling you not to care about the product I am telling you to stop being a baby because of a change in the game.
The change had a purpose: It was to make it so the Pig wasn't insane when the EGC started because the EGC isn't supposed to be a win condition and it would have for Pig if the change went through. The pig change sucks overall though and I want them to buff her since she is one of the weaker killers. Crying that the Pig isn't "immersive" (what even) is just ridiculous.
Also, this is the forums. You can post your opinion, but expect people to respond to your opinion and the things you say because this is the FORUMS. If you say something stupid you should expect people to talk about it.
im not saying equivalent to that literally. Im saying its silly to give something and then remove feature later that made customer made purchase for. Your acting like dismissive baby cause don't like someones opinion on feature. Thats all on you cause you don't watch horror or appreciate it on same scale. You don't have dog in fight cause only care for game and not characters in game to represent themselves. Also you weren't responding opinion just saying ignoring words. You can't act like brought an opinion when told explict gonna ignore post cause i wanted (not demanded) a refund.
If don't care for immersion in character then don't stick your neck in something don't understand. Anyone who loves the character knows how to respect the character. If you also don't understand concept of immersion shouldn't be commenting. Cause your already a deaf ear to subject in the first place.
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@holywhitetrash said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/59444/destroying-immersiveness-in-pig
you want a refund on pig for a patch they did over a year ago ?
this is the changes implemented in ptb ....
@DeadGavin said:
Once I see anyone say they want a refund I immediately ignore everything they said. Get over it or stop playing.
Wanting a refund on a product just means want quality in product. Most people don't have crazy cash flow. You don't buy an aquada car and then remove the driving on water feature later on. When you pay for what it does should be able to ask for refund back. Especially if it becomes not what purchased in first place. I'm not my tomatoe touched my burger give me refund now person. I'm more you made me pay for a burger with no meat in it. Be nice to be able to refund me at that point.
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How about you care about your game in own way. Play the game instead of telling people how to not care about there product like you.
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@JinX_Of_Fire said:
R.I.P immersive piggy, you were always my fac character in saw ),=
i know alot of saw fans would of liked other but i liked her character concept. One of the jigsaw killers flawed because they can't let go of a grudge. She doesn't want to play the game but those who wronged her to just die. Your forcing the game she never played telling her to play her game your way not hers.
Guess she had to be spit roasted to look more delicious to survivors.
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I'm horror puritan that can deal with some immersive elements being forgotten. But ruining freddy was the worst thing ever to a freddy fan. Now you ruin amanda and sure not most compelling saw killer but still played like her character. Removing immersive capabilties that flesh out her character is just wrong. You don't respect franchise or the fandom if take away from character. Wouldn't make leatherface wear rainbow stickers just because one part of game fanbase might like it. I hope pig goes back to her current state cause i will fight tooth and nail for a refund. Hardcore horror fans rip on dbd and hard to see not why. When you take a character you take there warts and all. Think pig mains just gonna start working around easy anti cheat just to get her back to her actual character. She is a cheater killer and forcing 1 gameplay with her is abysmal. Funny to see forcing your gameplay with legion and now pig. Can't enjoy creativity to long or might go against other gamers that want repeatitive gameplay.
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im scared they crippled amanda to not be amanda. Now they say will be immersive with freddy but such a worry he won't at all play like his iconic killer still.
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Love the answer a mod gave about reasoning and noone seems okay with that excuse.
Response below actually shows many that its silly to deny a killer 1 single kill for such reasons.
Might as well offer a refund on dlc for giving a killer noone payed for.
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https://youtu.be/D6yiNaSaSSU
Amandas first trap doesn't look like she plays fair and rather she cheats. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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@Kenshin said:
a real punishment for dc's
timed base punishment?