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Solo survivor is very frustrating to play as and not fun.
It needs to be balanced already.
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086514#Comment_2086514
You haven't had a question you've just asked to see my play and I've responded to that. But like I said you still haven't answered my question because you know that's the smarter option and you simply don't want to admit it.
In all this time you spent dodging you could have streamed by now. Anyway, you talk, you can't play.
Nothing new.
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086498#Comment_2086498
You haven't answered my question.
You have been dodging my questions for 20 posts now. All you've given are excuses.
I can explain to you how to use DS and we can see live demonstrations of each other, I'll invite you to a few matches, I will see how you explain to me what you mean AND see you play, and you can do the same with me. Deal?
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086484#Comment_2086484
let me ask you a question then, if you have ds is it smarter to jump on a gen or self care straight away without knowing if the killers coming straight back. Or is it smarter to get another survivor to heal you so you still have ds and you either get healed before and have ds still or don't but at least you still have ds?
Its very basic stuff, I don't have to prove myself to someone trying to troll on a forum because someone's stated obvious facts.
Ah, the old good "you're a troll" card. It's always handy isn't it?
No, listen. When you state something, and make an affirmation, it should be true and it should be backed up by something. At least you should try. When I say something, I'm ready to back it up and prove it, otherwise I'm lying. So, when someone is preaching on the forums and lecturing everyone on how "easy survivor is", "survivor is broken" , "survivors are so OP" "lolz this is easy" , "lolz this is how you do that". And then the moment they're asked to demonstrate it they chicken out, then they're lying. It's just all words all talk nothing substantial.
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086461#Comment_2086461
You can repeat yourself to try and prove a point as much as you like. I haven't stated I'm a god gamer I'm simply pointing out the basics of how to play smarter. If you want to watch someone to get better at the game that's a streamers job go watch a stream or watch a content creator on YouTube.
Man, that's so disappointing. It's really easy to find constant lectures on the forums about how easy something is, how blatantly obviously something is done, how something works...
But when it comes down to demonstrating something and making it more than words, suddenly everyone is busy / not available / they're not streaming because they're allergic to something, a relative passed, their computer can't handle it, their dog ate their index finger so they suddenly can't, it's "not my job" (but it apparently is your job to TALK about it, not proving it).
Damn, it's really unlucky.
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086448#Comment_2086448
So you can see me not self care or not jump straight on a gen after getting unhooked lol. You can watch a streamer that picked up the game in the last month and see that it's pretty basic stuff.
I don't watch streamers, I play the game instead. Shocking, I know.
But the question remains, after readind all your posts/lectures/advices/instructions, I would love to watch you play to learn a few things.
Can I see you play?
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086098#Comment_2086098
She actually has a lot of counterplay.
Los blockers. Her worse enemy, if she can't see you, her blinks become worse and if she misses, she's punished by fatigue.
Moving randomly. Be unpredictable, it ######### over a lot of nurses.
Stealth. Her blink doesn't let her see things mid blink, so stealth gameplay really punishes her.
Mindgames. If you mindgame her and she blinks incorrectly then she is screwed.
These all screw Her over.
Also, do you know how long it takes to even be good at nurse? Hundreds of hours my dude. God nurse? They aren't really around, but I'd say about 500 hours on nurse should do it.
Nah, after you learn to play the game in general you might need a few dozen hours as her to get the hang of it quickly. I don't main Nurse. I play Nurse. It takes me 3 or 4 matches to get used to it. And when I say "me", I mean anyone who's an experienced player.
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086437#Comment_2086437
I'm on console and not a streamer but everything I've stated is the basics of learning survivor so these are things you should learn early on.
That's okay. I never said you're a streamer. I like all your good lectures/advices on how to play the game. Can I see you play?
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086407#Comment_2086407
I've been playing a long time so I'm good at survivor and I know how to play smart, there will always be people out there with more hours in the game and better than me of course but that's like anyone else. Also I only play solo so no using SWF as a crutch either to get to rank 1.
Ok. You sound like an amazing survivor. Can I see you play?
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086411#Comment_2086411
2 by basement.
That weird one by a column where it has a slight divide of debris in the bottom floor.
The one behind the stairs.
Lab has 2 spots for god pallets (that weird place upstairs).
Those are some off the top of my head.
I'm sure there is more, I just haven't played game much recently.
Ok so right from the start we're down from 16 to 6 (supposedly). The two by basement, I can buy (as long as the gen isn't completed, and as long as you dont get yourself trapped in the corner against a high mobility killer, most people go down/get hit anyway). As you can see there's many "as long as...". And the other 2 I could buy are the ones next to the hole leading down to the basement area.
So, from 16 to 4 "god" pallets. I'd rather say, safe pallets. You people do love to parade the word "god" around and pull it out for literally everything. God is apparently everything from DS, any pallet, any survivor perk except for Lightweight, and any map that isn't ... wait, actually every map is a god tier surivor sided map apparently.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086411#Comment_2086411
You're not doing a very good job of trolling.
Disagreeing with you doesn't automatically make it trolling.That's what you keep telling yourself to feel better.
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@Lord_Tony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086398#Comment_2086398
there is not 2 ######### god pallets in the game.
Where the ######### are you getting 2 from? In what reality?
Can you number the 16 one by one?
OP's concept of god pallet:
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@Kirkylad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086378#Comment_2086378
Then you need to get better at being self aware and looking around for the killer before assuming you're safe. But like I said find a teammate and get it done quicker without losing ds, I've played only solo for 4 years I rarely even have to be asked to be healed before they're Tbagging next to me to heal me.
Can I see you play? you sound like an amazing survivor.
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@Lord_Tony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086386#Comment_2086386
there is like 16 god pallets in the game
I think it's more like 2 god pallets. But sure mate, keep having nightmares about situations that don't exist.
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@Lord_Tony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086341#Comment_2086341
all killers need to be buffed to be able to handle SWF
either nerf SWF or buff killers.
it's a fair compromise considering deathslinger is very weak against coordination like Nos37 said.
... Or you can just bother to try to put a minimal effort in which usually translates into 4k all games.
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What god pallets?
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It will get fixed in the new season. After they add a couple more Meg dresses and a Claudette wig.
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@solidhex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083271#Comment_2083271
LOL sry but this is complete BS. It's true that 4k's happen more often than 0k's (for me) but i can tell you that here in EU at rank 1, you play against very good survivors sometimes and if you get a bad map and play a killer like Ghostface or Wraith, it's not unlikely that you don't 4k against those. I even lose with Spirit from time to time if i make more than one mistake. Just have a bad start, don't find anyone early or get pallet-pre-dropped for 1 minute and you have a massive disadvantage. Good survivors play extremely save and then it becomes a game of patience.
If you change it to "4ks happen all the time", "You barely find good survivors at rank 1 in Europe" and "maybe you lose 1 out of 100 games as Spirit". Yes, I agree.
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@Lord_Tony said:
Why not?
I had a perfect suggestion for this.
The deathslinger should pull survivors through pallets to break them.
This causes an effect similar to the chain breaking. His chain breaks, deathslinger gets stunned for a few seconds. The survivor walks away with a mend timer BUT the pallet is destroyed.
this is totally fair
What makes you wanna buff an already incredibly powerful killer? You want another Freddy / Spirit that auto-kills everything with no input?
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All the time every game.
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Clearly you because you made a thread about it.
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I don't think he needs any buff. He seems quite powerful and the few times I found him he got at least two kills.
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Are you actually afraid of survivors? you must really be an awful killer. Maybe you should swich sides... actually nevermind survivor is boring as hell as well. Play another game I guess.
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@beached said:
I agree the Adrenaline is quite powerful but especially in solo queue where making it to end game each match is honestly a complete gamble, it seems like a waste when compared to so many other perks. Honestly I could just take sprint burst and a good med kit and bam both effects I need all in one perk and an item. I can heal myself multiple times without burdening a teammate and I can break out into a sprint multiple times at my leisure.
In my personal opinion exhaustion perks like sprint burst and dead hard will always be the meta. BT and DS will always exist in the meta but honestly those need actual conditions to be triggered. Sprint burst especially is crazy good, the only condition is that you didn’t exhaust yourself and you have a functioning shift key.
Exactly. In solo queue you don't even make much use of Adren. If you have been tunnelled you're probably dead. -Nobody- is going to help you or move a finger for you. If you haven't been tunnelled and made it, you're probably out of killer's reach anyway. And again Adrenaline is meh.
It really is too much of a gamble to become useful. There's other perks that are always helpful.
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Not because adrenaline is good (I don't particularly love it, never did) but because they nerf everything constantly lol.
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If someone doesn't wanna play the game then they don't wanna play the game and you can't make them. Ban them? sure, but do you really think they can handle all the reports? that they will go through each obne of them? Are you gonna need 3 million reports for them to look into them? Point is, nothing is going to happen.
Also, I don't blame some of them for suiciding sometimes. What I wonder is how someone still plays solo survivors. Masochism is strong.
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I think it's time to get rid of some stuff killers just don't need anymore, with the constant buffs and instant-wins mechanics.
- They don't need current NOED as it is.
- They don't need Bloodlust.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2086113#Comment_2086113
If you don't play killer much, you derank and go up against newbies. It's no wonder you find it boring and win easily.
That's some flawless logic!
... No.
I reached red rank every season until the last couple ones, and nothing has changed substantially. So yes, I get bored both against newbies and against "not newbies", because red ranks are still newbies. Maybe if you played the game more you would know this.
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Well, I personally don't play killer much because I find it extremely boring. And yes, easy against 99% of survs. Especially if you play killers for braindead people like Spirit or Freddy that basically carry themselves.
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Yeah. They will bring in 30 brand new bugs.
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I support this honestly. These people are like "iT HaS nO COunTer BUt iT tAKeS SkILL"... well no. It certainly takes more skill than... Freddy. Or... Spirit. But it doesn't take THAT much skill to play nurse very effectively. A killer that if played correctly has basically no counter.
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@bm33 said:
Breakable walls were good idea but poorly implemented. They'd be more useful if they were on windows removing the vault option from survivors.
I mean why would you have those windows to begin with then. Pointless.
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@Chilli_man2400 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2084154#Comment_2084154
Game development and cosmetic design are 2 different people Cosmetics don’t hold back game development
Then they clearly have an army working on wigs and then 1 person in development.
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They're busy with new Claudette skirts.
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When are we treated like second hand players? Can you be more specific?
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@Karao_Ke said:
Killer has always been a miserable role to play & when the devs finally start to balance survivors out, you complain. Infact, there's so much more that they haven't done yet because survivors always seem to be put first.
Need an example? Undying got nerfed in a few months compared to DS which took YEARS. Let me give you another one: Moris, the offering that gave killers unfair kills got nerfed while keys, which give unfair escapes to survivors is STILL not nerfed.
You need to wake up.
The only real "nerf" was moris. But that gave you an unrealistically broken edge. Keys I agree with. I would personally even remove the hatch altogether and make it only spawn IF you contributed a % to repairing. You crouched all game? You get nothing. Die.
Ruin + Undying was basically way too annoying and it god nerfed deservedly so.
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@Swampoffering said:
Killer is not easy, if you play low Tier killers you will see how difficult is for them to Chase survivors and hook them faster.
The problem in red ranks is the amount of boosted survivors that we can see, SWF players, carried by their teammates but with Green or Brown rank level.
If I get matched against this kind of players and I destroy them because my red rank is real.... That doesnt mean that killer is OP, that means survivors Need To Git Gud and improve their playstyle.
If I make 4k on Puzzle map with Legion against red rank survivors, killer is not too strong, that survivors are garbage.
Yeah, and as you can see the very same people who get carried by SWF then come and cry here things like "Omg survivor is so easy lolZXD"
Easy for you, getting carried. Play solo queue exclusively and then you'll cry less about SuRviBor Ez lOlZ
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@plzleavemealone said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083709#Comment_2083709
I said i dont play solo XD so when you loop a freddy all your teamate are there no wonder you find freddy op
You cry on the forums that survivor is too easy and then it turns out you're getting carried by your friends. Play by yourself mate and stop getting carried by others and then you'll probably cry less about nerfing survivors if you're stuck in solo queue red ranks.
Jesus christ the hypocrisy.
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@D3spair said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083365#Comment_2083365
How can I get my server to change to Europe? Ss here in SEA region, Thailand, Japan and Korea are turning this god damn game into an Esports. I'm playing most of my games against good survivors that can do 5 gens in 5 mins. I even do tournaments here as Philippines host them commonly and I assure you no Killers except Nurse and Spirit will win against a Top Competitive SWF as in my tournaments, Its either be Spirit or Nurse and get 2 Kills or Be any other Killer(That includes Freddy, PH and Oni) and get a 4 escape.
Here in tournaments, Survivors will wait out that Corrupt intervention, Spread out and Do gens individually, Bring Maps and Detectives Hunch to get that Glowy totem 30 Secs in the game and will loop you at least 60 secs getting 60 secs in 3 Gens.
For Context the rules in tournaments are like the DBD japan Tournaments where Killers only get 1 point per Survivor Kill and how many gens are left remaining and Survivors Get Points per Escape and how many Gens were done. I assure you every Great Killer player I know were Gen Rushed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vn12nG7Qak
Here is Otzdarva getting Rekt as a spirit with decent Add Ons by a competitive team
Complain about Killer being too easy after you win a tournament other than Nurse and Spirit as right now you're still too green.
Sounds like your life is a tournament? Every single game for you is a tournament. You're living in a tournament?
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@plzleavemealone said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083425#Comment_2083425
I dont play solo enough to give you that kind of gameplay. But the fact is you are solo or not when freddy chase you are alone in that chase you dont have any help the only thing you know for sure is if the other survivor are on gen
Ok. So another person who can't play survivor but lectures on how easy it is for everyone to play survivor. Gotcha. Nothing new.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083302#Comment_2083302
2 years old stats... like... really? 2 years ago, moris were useful, ruin actually slowed gens down, billy was the most balanced killer and nurse was meta.
... I guess you missed the 2 million times I said this is from 2019 and not too representative. But you can have an idea. It'd be useful to see 2021 stats.
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@TicTac said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083413#Comment_2083413
I play mostly solo survivor, too, and my experience was a lot better in the 24h-MMR-test. I had good survivor almost every match. So i hope MMR will fix this problem.
Well then I truly do hope this is true, I wasn't playing during that test, and you can imagine why. When all you get is frustrating matches over time you play less and less. But my hope for Behaviour is zero. So, even if in theory it's a good change when is it gonna come into play? In 3 years?
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@Xzan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083418#Comment_2083418
As someone who plays solo queue a lot, I can tell you from my experience that DS is not the game changer for solos. It's bad teammates. I haven't used DS in ages and the amount of games where I would have gotten DS value is very low.
Nah it's not any "game changer" that's true. But it did help me a bit and it was more useful to me than 99% of randoms. I'll take my old DS over 1 whole average survivor. My old DS at least gave me a bit of protection. That Claudette who crouches all game and escapes through hatch making 10k points including hatch and survival points gives me less value than DS.
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@WARW0LF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083404#Comment_2083404
oh man, you must be pretty bad at survivor, i just gave you counters and you dismiss them and stick with drop pallet hold w, it's fools like you who inflate freddys kill rate, easy prey
You must be a great red ranked solo survivor. Can I see you play?
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@plzleavemealone said:
So if i understand freddy will get nerf because he is too strong for the amount of effort you need to put in the killer so my question when are they nerfing survivor its too easy to play them and they are the strongest character in the entire game
Let's do something. I want to see you (or anybody here who's willing) play SOLO survivor in red ranks. Let's make it 10-20 matches. I want to see how extremely easy this experience is. We can then make a thread about it. Up for it?
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@Xzan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083215#Comment_2083215
You mean the fact, that it can't be abused.
You should clarify first, it can't be "abused" (you do overreact with how people abused it, it's a bit exaggerated) by solos. It only ruined solos even more, didn't affect SWF much. Solos was already the weakest role in this game to begin with.
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@TicTac said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083365#Comment_2083365
But does it matter? When the survivors are bad, they should be getting demolished. They shouldnt have a chance when they dont learn the game. The player with more experience/skill wins. And when someone has over 2000 hours in dbd he has most of the time a advantage bc of the matchmaking. That goes for both roles, only in solo survivor bad teammates can change it.
Good clarification. Except solo survivor. That's coincidentally what I play. Which is why I keep complaining and the main issue I have. Solo survivor experience is -awful-, unplayable. If I had 3 people to play with I'd be sitting here saying the game is all good and has "a few minor issues" and the "DS nerf seems fair tbh". Which is what people who 1. Only play killer 2. Only play SWF, say. When all you get is matches you have to carry yourself while 3 people look at you on the hook at some point you have enough.
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@SilentHillOnDvD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083332#Comment_2083332
How do you know i only face teams like this 1 out of every 100 games i play? You can't prove that's true or not because all you did was pick random numbers.
Because we're playing the same game as the same role. You're a red ranked killer right? I'm from Europe. I play around the evenings. Our experience must be similar.
So 1 every 100 games is challenging, I agree.
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@Northener1907 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2083302#Comment_2083302
And again, stop offensive bro. I didnt say "you are not playing longer than me". Why you discussing about we never talked lol. I met with that game in 2017, so yea you playing 1 year more than me, congrlations.
You are sending rate from 2019 lol Most of killers perk was strong, mori was strong. They all nerfed. So many killer and add-ons nerfed because survivors said they op. Wraith was trash all times, he finally worth to play, years later. Trapper is still trash. Billy nerfed and useless right now. Twins are weak, Trickster weak and those 2 last chapters. For example Myers was strong killer but we both know he is just trash just right now.
So this rate doesnt make any sense or confirm. Because game was killerside. For that killers nerfed so hard for years and playing killer turned to hard and not fun. That is why so many killers stopped play this game. So we have not any rate for 2 years and noone knows anything except Devs. You are saying %80 killing rates but you cant confirm that because there is not any rate from Devs. But i am ignorant how can i know that right xD
Only one thing i can agree with you: Solo-Q possibly worst thing in that game but still that is not mean playing as killer is easy. Killers are one player and survivors 4. Good solo teams can win. But most of survivors are potatoes sadly. I dont know how to fix solo-q btw.
I'm not being offensive or trying to offend you. I might sound aggressive when I talk because I'm fed up with people (like you) who quickly dismiss everything with a "then u should try playing killer lolxDDD", yeah... I play killer. Plenty. Focus more on the arguments rather than trying to suggest I should do this or that.
Anyway, the only thing that got nerfed now is mori. Most map reworks are trash and full of dead ends and dead zones. They "nerfed" (not really) Ruin and Pop, Ruin wasn't even a nerf. It just works differently now and killers with high map pressure can constantly make gens regress into oblivion because most survivors are incompetent and couldn't find a totem even if the totem had legs and ran around the map screaming.
So yes, I still believe escape rate is lower now compared to 2 years ago, but we can't know for sure until they release stats, and they won't because the developers of this game are getting more incompetent by the day. I used to love this game and appreciate the staff in this studio. They have betrayed and played us so many times at this point however that all that turned into negative.
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@SilentHillOnDvD said:
You're playing against bad survivors. Show me gameplay of you easily 12 hooking a team of 4 really good survivors because you know, it's so easy.
Does that exist? It does. How often do you face these survivors? Once every 100 matches? You do.
Once every 100 matches you have difficulties winning. Yeah, I believe that.