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  • I thought this post was going to be sarcastic,

    but it wasn't...

  • @Mochan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816820#Comment_816820

    Killers get tons more BP per game than survivors. Killers have way more resources than survivors, so it's a wash at best. Especially since the survival rate is well below 50%.

    Further, stuff like BNP are CONSUMED ON USE so you don't keep it whether you survivor or not.

    I reject your argument. Try again.

    You don't need BNP at red rank to dominate the game, if you need that, you're pretty bad in the game.

    Simply Green Toolbox, 4man swf with comm is already insanely OP at rank 1,

    and the survivor rate for red rank swf is always above 50%, wdym "well below" 50% LMFAO?

    you trying to make me laugh? where did you get that

    And killers getting more resources? they also need to level up EACH killers to play it,

    while survivors are just skins, you aren't bound to level up all characters.


    reject your argument? look at your laughable logic first.

  • @Mochan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816821#Comment_816821

    Nurse using Omegablink is an outlier. As in, used in maybe .01% of games? (I made that number up). A full SWF Commando Squad with Engineer Toolkits and BNP is an even rarer outlier. .001% of games maybe. That is fine.

    I am saying an outlier that is very rarely played is not a big issue.

    But Nurse herself is an "outlier" in terms of performance (which is why she was nerfed) but not an outlier in terms of how much she is played (which is the nuance of my post). Nurse is played in maybe 5% of all games? (I don't know just made that statistic up).

    Don't confuse the nuances of the word "outlier" when trying to make an argument.

    Understand what is being said so you don't make nonsense arguments.

    I also love how you completely ignore the Survivor part of the argument (4-man Commando BNP) and just focus on the killer outliers. Very unbiased, yes.

    Comparing omegablink to SWF with toolbox,

    but not comparing base-kit nurse to SWF at red rank in general LMFAO?


    The community mostly agreed base-kit nurse was fine, it was her add-ons that need to be dealt with, in fact, if you put 4man SWF with no items against base-kit nurse, SWF will win most of the time.


    But sure, compare that base-kit nurse to that 0.01% SWF toolbox team, cuz they are equal.


    Who's being nonsense here?

  • @Mochan said:

    Not sure. If every survivor is sporting an engineer toolkit with BNPs and manual genrush and they play perfectly and killer is unlucky it might not be counterable.

    And that's fine. That kind of game is an outlier and uses rare, finite resources. It might still have been counterable by Omega Blink nurse anyway back in the day before the nerf. And nobody plays perfectly all the time.

    I've been in games where two or three survivors used BNP and we still got 4K'd.

    Many survivors believe Omega Blink nurse can't be countered. There are nurse players here who stated empathically that they have never lost running Omega Blink Nurse. And quite a few survivors who have said they have never won against Omega Blink Nurse.

    Again, outliers and uses finite resources. That's fine every now and then.

    And "outlier is fine" statement? lol,

    Nurse getting nerf is based on the fact that shes a outlier, quoting from devs,

    spirit is being "look at" also because dev think shes a outlier,

    but when swf toolbox game being an "outlier", that is fine.


    SURE.

  • @Mochan said:

    Not sure. If every survivor is sporting an engineer toolkit with BNPs and manual genrush and they play perfectly and killer is unlucky it might not be counterable.

    And that's fine. That kind of game is an outlier and uses rare, finite resources. It might still have been counterable by Omega Blink nurse anyway back in the day before the nerf. And nobody plays perfectly all the time.

    I've been in games where two or three survivors used BNP and we still got 4K'd.

    Many survivors believe Omega Blink nurse can't be countered. There are nurse players here who stated empathically that they have never lost running Omega Blink Nurse. And quite a few survivors who have said they have never won against Omega Blink Nurse.

    Again, outliers and uses finite resources. That's fine every now and then.

    "finite resources" is never true for survivors,

    they keep their stuff when they win unlike killers lmfao.

    and for rank 1 swf with 4 toolbox? ez wins most of the time,

    the toolbox is almost infinite at that level.

    Not to mention we just had 2 bloodhunt back to back.

  • @OmegaXII said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/816650#Comment_816650

    So i guess majority of people want to play the most broken thing in game?

    I wonder when those killers start to become survivor mains and play as full optimum SWF team with voice chat

    already doing it lmfao

    few of my killer main friend including myself already abandon the killer side.

    this patch is truly survivors heaven, I'm enjoying winning every game with my buddy.

    No nurse and spirit getting nerf, only ######### m1 killers, simply gen rush them and win, ez

  • Then I really have nothing to say if you still think that after playing wraith at rank 1.


    I wish you have good games in the future,

    have fun improve you skills against wraith and all those killers.

  • Try getting pip consistently with Legion, Doctor, Wraith, Clown etc at Rank 1,

    without sweaty add-ons and mori.


    Then we talk about who has higher skill ceiling.

  • Im gonna hit you with the same ol Behavior answer

    "if they dc too much, they will get ban"


    except no one knows how much is too much,

    and the threshold is definitely high af.

  • @Mochan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/810258#Comment_810258

    You don't see people get punished for it because most American corporations believe in proper management practices.

    1. Praise in public, punish in private.

    That is how every decent company operates, and it's how BHVR operates. Bans and other punishments are never publicized.

    Stop right there,

    all things aside, BHVR is Canadian

  • @Rizzo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/810315#Comment_810315

    If people knew the exact threshold, some of them would start dcing more because they would know the amount of games they can leave without repercussions.

    Guaranteed above 30% of your games, around 40%.

    people are not dumb, we can figure it out


    and I don’t see why not.

    If the threshold is not ridiculously high, there won’t be a problem if they know it.

    let say you get punishment starting from 15% of your game,

    yeah people might dc that much, but it would be acceptable for us.

    it is only a problem when you set the bar too high so you fear people would know the exact number.

  • @Rizzo said:

    Temporary bans don't appear on the user's profile, so it's hard to tell if they are getting banned or not.

    If they are banned I won’t see them in my lobby, so I know they aren’t ban cuz I see them over and over again and they still rq whenever they are tilted.

    I know it’s part of your job to have a formal response like this,

    but everyone who play this game knows that BHVR set the DC punishment bar skyrocketed high, nothing is gonna happen if they don’t reach a certain threshold.

    Hell people can probably dc 30% of their game on a Daily Basis and have no punishment whatsoever.

    in fact, they benefited from it because that pisses off killers (killers get depip or no rank progress) which is what they want.

    according to a lot of survivors on this forum. BHVR might nerf killers if people dc against a certain killer too often too.


    so please stop, this is the worst thing you can say to the community,

    we almost lost hope to the dc punishment

  • @Rizzo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/809295#Comment_809295

    That's not true, if they DC enough, they'll get punished.

    Except that “enough” bar is so high,

    ive never seen someone get punished for it,

    literally keep seeing the same survivor group after they rq

    so nope nothing is going to happen to them

  • Wait until they nerf spirit,

    rank 1 would be hell.

    What you gonna do at rank 1 when every opponent holding toolbox and swf?

  • To be fair, he is a streamer who uses all kind of weird build.

    he uses anything, even monstrous shrine

  • @LordziPL said:

    I agree with InfinyMage. Some Add-Ons are useless. Who is using 1 blink - 4.2m/s add-on? C'mon.

    agree,

    lmfao those nurse ultra rare are so bad,

    I rather use splinter and turn myself into no perk freddy.

    literally most useless ultra rare ive ever seen

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    Most of the recent threads about queues have been the opposite of your experience. I myself have over 10m for killer and 2 for survivor in east NA.

    It all depends on region, platform, time of day etc and of course now challenges as people wanting to do them will have to change roles.

    I literally live in Ontario, Canada and red rank on both side.

    Aren't we on the same region?

  • make all killers popular = make all killers unpopular


    In the end, those two statement are equal.

    Now we have bing bong boi, legion, doctor, trapper, clown, bubba

    and they just dump the best killer into trash can, about to dump the 2nd best

    sounds about right.

  • @AhoyWolf said:

    You don't have the Knife purchased.

    The Knife comes with this skin.

    oh dang,

    the knife looks exactly the same I didn't know its an outfit

  • Don't care about survivors rule book.


    Just like Gen Rushing, looping,

    nothing wrong with doing whatever to win you the game.


    They just want to be salty and find something to blame but their skill.

  • I don't get it either,

    The Dev says it is because its hard to divide the head and body,

    But they could literally just do it like Legion,

    Change hair style/color for the "head piece",

    The whole Hoddie and the rest for the "body piece"

  • that's why they put them on the 4TH PAGE, the last page,

    it is supposed to be challenging towards the end.

    for a casual player you can still finish most of the archive with ease.


    Or do you want to have 4 pages of "finish x generators" missions?

    Isn't it boring to not have any challenge at all?

    If so what is the point of even introducing archive, just give us the damn reward.

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    Pretty good job so far

  • @Centrum said:

    😂

    'How dare encouraging people to unhook other players be rewarded with more points! Let me be selfish!'

    Big brain,

    the problem isn’t having more points for unhooking,

    ‘but having way more points COMPARED with doing other objectives.


    if I can just farm hooks and get more points than everyone else,

    why would I do gens?

  • @HeroLives said:

    That’s Bc from rank 20-8 most killers lounge around the hook area making saves riskier I’m sure. High risk high reward.

    Maybe, but rn red rank just became a farm fest


    who cares about teammate escaping.

    if you got hook. You’re a gold coin in my eyes


  • @concious_consumer said:

    Idk how losing pip is a punishment? It's a reward lmao. Then you end up with P3's bullying rank 20 killers/survivors but what can I know about game design?

    Not everyone enjoy playing against potatoes to have easy games.

  • Let's see.


    If they really release the upcoming Halloween event AFTER Halloween?

    Yeah Id say the game is dying.

  • @MeatBycicle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789304#Comment_789304

    I understand that disconnecting is intolerable to you. I am not saying people should DC, I merely stated various reasons that the community has said over and over and over again are the reasons that they disconnect against killers.

    And? What about them?

    You know that is Victim-Blaming for using whatever reason to justify D/C and put that on killers right?

    Survivors can write 100000 reasons to D/C, sure, go on, come up with more reason.

  • @MeatBycicle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789291#Comment_789291

    I'm not saying you do it, I'm just saying that could be a possibility. I don't know how you play, but if what you say is true that you have a 70% disconnection rate I would honestly start to think it was you and not the survivors as much.

    As for you're top rank killer streamers I don't see that many DC's, because they usually play well, fair and efficiently. Not saying that they don't get DC's, but its nowhere near what you are saying you get.

    Even tru3 would have around 40~50% dc in his game despite doing all the stupid Build Request and not having an optimal build for most of the time.

    As I mentioned before,

    I don't care about what kind of reasons you bringing up that would cause survivor D/C,

    D/C is intolerable, and from my experience I see 70% D/C in my games,

    simple as that.

  • @MeatBycicle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789280#Comment_789280

    If you paid attention to what I already said I main killer. The same can be said about your attitude. You don't care about the "Survivor Rulebook" those same survivors don't care for your tactics.

    I'm not defending disconnects or survivors, but I also won't defend crappy play styles that no one likes. No one likes camping, no one likes tunneling, no one likes slugging. There is a time and place for all of those of course, but even when I play survivor I have seen killers who slug right off the bat. No one will find that fun except for maybe the killer, who lets be real, is doing that just to grief the survivors.

    You are right though about being found first, getting outplayed, DC on third hook, those are just silly and salty reasons.

    You are assuming I have crappy play-style with no evidence what-so-ever and personally attacking based on non-sense.

    No reason can defend a D/C, period, it doesn't matter what kind of mastermind reasons you bringing up.

    Go on and find some streamer with the best play style, tru3, otz whoever,

    count how many of their games involve a D/C if survivor aren't swf winning.

    If you're lazy how about I find it for you?

  • @MeatBycicle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789270#Comment_789270

    See I find it very difficult to believe that 70% of your games have a DC in them then. Unless you are literally playing like a scumbag. Slugging right off the bat, tunneling, camping etc.

    I'm not defending disconnects but lets be real, a majority of the player base dislike certain play styles whether or not they are (strategies) and will disconnect often when they see these.

    see.

    immediately assume killers brah brah brah and try to assume the reason they dc.

    No one cares about your survivor rule book and salty survivor will d/c on whatever reason they can think of.

    D/C is intolerable, and no one cares about your crybaby reason, be it getting found first, getting outplay in 10sec, about to die on third hook whatever. No. One. Cares.


  • @MeatBycicle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789266#Comment_789266

    You mentioned this briefly in another post you made, what killer are you usually playing when the DC's happen?

    If you really did check my post you'll get the answer.


    All killers, even legion and wraith, I posted it,

    if you really did CHECKED.

  • 70%

    D/C are way too common right now

  • I'm saying the halloween event we having is already like a april fools joke,

    the diablo mobile thing last year?

    do I really have to explain a joke?

    you know jokes aren't funny if you explain them.

    e37.png


  • Wdym,

    aren't we having a April Fool event next week?

    Oh wait...

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787610#Comment_787610

    Sorry for daring to compare you downing someone who doesnt have the ability to move, to the gameplay of a facecamping Bubba. Clearly theres a huge difference in the massive amount of skill your portraying oh master of the hatchet. Im done though, Im not the one who had to make a forum post asking people to make me feel less cheap. Go on with your tactic, as well with your loaded yes or no questions.

    Then I’ll just say farewell to your delusional thought of every huntress are like you who would hold their hatchets prime staring through survivors.

    yup that should be a facecamping bubba

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787599#Comment_787599

    When you come on here looking for people to back you up because somehow distance is what defines tunneling, with a ranged killer... yeah, I'm going to make a comparison that is CLEARLY ridiculous to showcase how ridiculous your huntress sniping is. If I equip BBQ and ironmaiden on Bubba, does that mean I should have the saw primed at the hook everytime someone runs distortion, calm spirit or any of the other perks and ways to hide from your perks?

    you didn't just make a comparison that is ridiculous,

    you were putting an EQUAL sign to bubba and huntress,

    go back and check what you said.

    And for the second part, I can't believe your logic is still that messed up,

    you simply cannot compare bubba game play to huntress',

    if you need to hold that thing prime its your problem,

    for a huntress I don't even have to wind up my hatchets until I saw someone,

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787572#Comment_787572

    Apparently...you asked a yes or no question, and got pissy at people for saying yes. If you wanted to hear "no", just tell us the right answer for you so you can go away and feel better about yourself. yikes...

    You noticed theres multiple people saying yes here but I'm only replying you?

    and it's because you even compare bubba facecamp to huntress throwing hatchets from across the map,

    I arguing because your logic is off, yikes

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787572#Comment_787572

    Apparently...you asked a yes or no question, and got pissy at people for saying yes. If you wanted to hear "no", just tell us the right answer for you so you can go away and feel better about yourself. yikes...

    You noticed theres multiple people saying yes here but I'm only replying you?

    and it's because you even compare bubba facecamp to huntress throwing hatchets from across the map,

    I arguing because your logic is off, yikes

  • because i'm a filthy nasty shameless tunneler who's pissy 😫


  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787522#Comment_787522

    You would make this same sort of argument for a killer standing 5 ft away though. Fake save and block for the guy. The only difference is your purposefully standing outside BT range and looking for people to tell you your not tunneling someone off the hook as soon as their feet touch the ground. If you're gonna tunnel, go for it... but yeah, thats what youre doing.

    You don't have to wait there or tunnel vision to know people are going for saves,

    bbq+iron maiden let you know survivors location and how many is outside your terror radius (cuz no one would dare to hide in lockers)

    once you know all their general direction, pay attention to scratch marks and where they go from a distance, and hunt them down while still able to throw hatchets at hooks.


    But yeah, guess I'm a nasty tunneler for that, sorry for getting pissy 😞😢

  • @LordGlint said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787522#Comment_787522

    You would make this same sort of argument for a killer standing 5 ft away though. Fake save and block for the guy. The only difference is your purposefully standing outside BT range and looking for people to tell you your not tunneling someone off the hook as soon as their feet touch the ground. If you're gonna tunnel, go for it... but yeah, thats what youre doing.

    So huntress throwing hatchets at hooks is tunneling, gotcha 😘


    and btw, aiming from across the map is completely different as waiting to grab ppl/bubba holding chainsaw, it require a lot more when people fake saves.

    But you're survivor you won't know.


  • @LordGlint said:

    If your sitting there with a hatchet primed at the hook from a distance... Whats the difference between that and a Cannibal having a charged up chainsaw next to the hook?

    first of all I never sit there with hatchet primed at all time staring through the hooked guy's soul. but its not hard to see people going for saves from a distance.


    and uh... maybe try to fake save or block for the hooked guy? I'm so far away, its not like I have aimbot or bring one hit hatchets

  • @Auron471 said:

    You clearly didnt study for the quiz. you get an F

    😨😰😱😭

    NOOOOOOO I swear im a good baby huntress


  • @Mochan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/787147#Comment_787147

    You want to talk potential?

    A killer will potentially make at least twice as much BP as any of the three survivors left in the game, 99 times out of 100.

    How's that for potential?

    You want to talk about BP?

    Survivor doesn't lose add-ons item if they escaped, while killers lose everything when when they win, 100times out of 100times

    Also the BP it takes to invest killers is enormous, while survivors are just skins.


    How's that for BP?

  • @CashelP14 said:

    It doesn't punish the killer as much as survivor. If the killer disconnects in a certain way the survivors lose all the points earned in that game. At least if a survivor disconnects:

    • Easier game for the killer
    • Gets points after the game
    • Keeps their points, unlike if a killer disconnects.

    It can punish the killer depending if they disconnect to give another the hatch but that doesn't happen too often.

    Disconnecting is a big issue which they will hopefully fix once dedicated servers are released.

    You obviously don't know what you're saying.

    When survivor dc, no matter how many times you hook survivor, you can't pip as killer.


    but for survivors, provided you're not a potato and loop the killer for 1min+ in total, do some gens and save 2people, that's a pip already.


    So it is a 0 pip / depip VS a chance to pip

    and you say "it doesn't punish the killer as much as suvivor", play more games before you say that please.

  • @Mr_K said:

    Because the killer was playing in an unfun manner to which the survivor's only option was to leave the match in distress.

    😑

    "damn I got found first, go down in 10 sec, let me dc"


    its not my fault, killer must be playing in an unfun manner 😡

  • @Mediva said:

    Lets face it, if you bring those add-ons, a survivor wont have much fun. They probably dc-ed when you hit the real one very quick and they got downed real quick. And lets be fair, if they played this match, they would have walked away with maybe a safety pip because of what you decided to bring. How is that far to them? To me, this is the most broken add-on in the game. i have played many matches, but a huntress with this add-ons is just a very onesided killer round with almost no chance for the survivors. You decided to wanna play like this. They decided they rather opt out. I cant blame them. I understand fully. And yeah, I probably would have done it too, or more likely, suicided on first hook You only have so much free time to play. then these matches are just a very waste of time. Why place this when you can have a good nice, not tryharding game as well?

    Your decision to use broken add-ons, their decision to leave. And face it. They depipped as well from it. Because of you and your decision to bring it. There are no winners in games like this. Only killer maybe if they didnt leave. there is nothing for a survivor in a match with these add-ons.

    *this match is not fun, let me just dc*


    yeah I might as well dc every time I see someone has instant heal, haddonfied offering, toolbox and key.


    salty survivors really trying to justify DC? It’s hilarious and shame on you

  • I like how every salty survivors here are trying to justify DC


    regardless of what OP using, dc is never acceptable, not to mention getting depip from someone else’s dc, period.

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