How Legion Mains feel right now

Another nerf as if there wasn't enough nerfs to Legion already...

  • Deep Wound: Deep Wound timer will no longer go down when Sprinting or Mending. Deep Wound is no longer connected with the Killers terror radius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mDsPhWKuzw

No matter how many times they nerf Legion however... I'm still gonna main them.

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  • @dont_ask_me_again said:

    In summary... Bubba is like the Tachanka in R6S (literally a big guy that camps on a turret)... a god that shouldn’t be touched... and the devs there do pay respect to him... when new operators come they don’t hard counter him... nomad airjabs do nothing to him on his turret and the new kali sniper takes like 6-7 shots to destroy his face-shield (so very difficult). Pretty much only deserves buffs and the memes are sacred.

    Now I want l Lord Leather Face now

  • @dont_ask_me_again said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885929#Comment_885929

    I played leatherface when he was viable, I’d slug the person rescued and punish hook rushers but otherwise played normally - I killed what I didn’t like as teammates when I solo’ed but yeah I’d camp SWF and you might have some clue how op they were back in the day... they’re still op but nowhere near the current level... I played hag after and now nurse. I wouldn’t ever sit on the hook all game because I wanted to win... unless it was the obsession (original DS) because killing that was necessary if you managed to dribble it to a hook in order to win because they could just do so much with DS to ruin your chances of winning... simply going down in-place of a teammate by bodyblocking near the end of the game would mean you’d get no momentum left.

    If you’ve watched the leatherface films he ambushes people he kills looking through peep holes and jumping out. The devs probably wouldn’t admit it but I can pretty much they bet they thought of him being paired with insidious... at-least some of them.

    No, the play to play around hook-rushers (who are trying to steal the killers momentum) would be removed and that needs counter-play. BT or not, survivors meed to rescue not on their terms but based around what the killer is doing. If someone actually insidious camps against good survivors... the good survivors will do gens letting the teammate hit stage 2 and then rescue them if they can and the killer will lose because the gens have been done. And it’s bubba... good survivors will just loop him well enough. There’s tonnes of pallets on every map and he’s a standard 115m/s... a lot more evadable than high mobility killers.

    Did you not see where I said a suggestiin that BT takes 20s to activate after a hook before it can be used? This itself stops hook rushers as if seen then they can't simply run in and rescue or instantly take a hit and rescue.

    The reason camping is being actively made less viable is punishing it by doing gens means a depip at the higher ranks which shouldn't be the case. The emblems themselves are designed so both sides are not using specific strats or just doing one thing in game ie gen rushing or camping.

    Leatherface in the movies doesnt have to be the same in game. Much like the pig isn't the same as in the movies and the traps which aren't designed to kill which people first thought but to slow the game down.

    It's a game to play for fun and why certain things are being worked on to try and elevate the most unfun strats from being the norm.

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885977#Comment_885977

    Did you not see where I said a suggestiin that BT takes 20s to activate after a hook before it can be used? This itself stops hook rushers as if seen then they can't simply run in and rescue or instantly take a hit and rescue.

    The reason camping is being actively made less viable is punishing it by doing gens means a depip at the higher ranks which shouldn't be the case. The emblems themselves are designed so both sides are not using specific strats or just doing one thing in game ie gen rushing or camping.

    Leatherface in the movies doesnt have to be the same in game. Much like the pig isn't the same as in the movies and the traps which aren't designed to kill which people first thought but to slow the game down.

    It's a game to play for fun and why certain things are being worked on to try and elevate the most unfun strats from being the norm.

    See my comment about tachanka... and you can pip against leatherface even if you die... just do gens when the match starts not getting caught, do a prolonged chase with him if you are caught and you’ll atleast safety pip. If they’re high rank they’ll likely definitely not insidious camp early anyway if they’re trying to win since the emblem system will not let them pip... pipping as leatherface is incredibly difficult at high ranks since he has an insta-down or is otherwise just an M1 killer.

  • The only good change to DW is that they can't do Gens until they Mend, very small change.

    Other than that BHVR just seems to not care about Legion, this was made so they couldn't the effect and that's it. They still didn't fix the Pin add-ons and they still haven't addressed the stun.

    Legion's ''ability'' is no longer a threat in the most remote of a sense. Their power is to injure and slightly inconvenience Survivors.

  • They reverted them to be smoother to play like they used to but nerfed any strength they had left, it's a plain and awful nerf that is honestly pretty mind boggling.

    At this point it makes me wonder if it's the same people who worked on Spirit and Oni because they have lethal powers with faster speed and less restrictions.

  • @Plu said:

    They reverted them to be smoother to play like they used to but nerfed any strength they had left, it's a plain and awful nerf that is honestly pretty mind boggling.

    At this point it makes me wonder if it's the same people who worked on Spirit and Oni because they have lethal powers with faster speed and less restrictions.

    It seems there is a person in BHVR who has the biggest vendetta against Legion.

  • Its not that bad and I love the faster vault and running, its really fun now to stab everyone and I had only 4ks for 5 games in a row atm.

    I am not saying that legion is op now or something but the nerfs are even outed with the buffs.

  • @dont_ask_me_again said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/886028#Comment_886028

    See my comment about tachanka... and you can pip against leatherface even if you die... just do gens when the match starts not getting caught, do a prolonged chase with him if you are caught and you’ll atleast safety pip. If they’re high rank they’ll likely definitely not insidious camp early anyway if they’re trying to win since the emblem system will not let them pip... pipping as leatherface is incredibly difficult at high ranks since he has an insta-down or is otherwise just an M1 killer.

    You cant pip if caught first and then camped as you dont have a chance to do anything which is why the devs have been trying to reduce its viabliltiy.

    You wont pip in high ranks if you punish camping by just doing gens and getting out. Pipping requires someone to be chased, do gens and then make a save or get out. You don't want to be chased by a camper as they will normally always get at least always two kills due to how the game is.

    You can pip as leatherface at high ranks fairly easily you just can't use your power to down as much. It the same for the likes of Billy or the Trapper as they also get punished. This hopefully is being looked into as each killer should have different requirements instead of a one for all system.

  • @Creepingcam1070 said:

    Another nerf as if there wasn't enough nerfs to Legion already...

    • Deep Wound: Deep Wound timer will no longer go down when Sprinting or Mending. Deep Wound is no longer connected with the Killers terror radius.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mDsPhWKuzw

    No matter how many times they nerf Legion however... I'm still gonna main them.

    As someone that doesn't use on hit perks. This is the best legion ever was.

  • Seems to me that deep wound, needs another name. I thought the point of deep wound was being seriously damage so you needed to do it right away.

  • legion was nerfed. anyone who thinks it wasn't a nerf either doesn't play legion, doesn't know what they're talking about, or is lying.

  • removal of on hit perks from his FF ruined him bad. thats all he had left was sloppy and stbfl

  • @Pulsar said:

    So, what is the point of Deep Wounds?

    Like, legitimately.

    @Peanits

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885815#Comment_885815

    It's not about removing plays from a killer but the mechanic being consistent for all. This helps with balance as the trapped or clown are disadvantaged more than those who have a power to negate it.

    I have met planet swf who hook rush and I get free hits on them and always chase thr unhooker. I don't tunnel so BT never affects me for the 20s. The only time its obnoxious is end game which reworking it can be solve that issue.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885820#Comment_885820

    It's not, its just the players who choose too use it that way. The good leatherface players never have to camp and do well with him.

    @GrootDude is one of them.

    "The good leatherface players never have to camp and do well with him."

    The good Leatherkek players are good M1 killers players. Because that's what Leatherkek is, if you don't use him to camp. A M1 killer with a big terror radius.

  • This patch made me lose all faith in BHVR and stop playing completely.

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    I feel sorry for you Legion mains. Your allegiance to this killer, the trouble with loyalty to Behavior, is that Behavior will always betray you. Where do you think Legion came from, that they made him for you? No your benefactors made you for themselves and now your creators don't need you anymore


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  • I am better then before, cuz like... SPEEEEEEED. Talking serious tough, that was more a buff than a nerf

  • @Brucecastro81 said:

    I am better then before, cuz like... SPEEEEEEED. Talking serious tough, that was more a buff than a nerf

    Gets .2 more speed loses synergy to all the perks that made him niche at best including dark devotion which was the only way to down a survivor for 30 seconds and cleansing a totem takes longer then mending great.

  • @PrettyFaceKate said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885298#Comment_885298

    Default FF duration is 10 secs. Speed was buffed from 5 to 5.2 m/s. Legion gained a whopping 2m buff over a full frenzy and they go as fast as a 115 killer with 3 stacks of PWYF, while being unable to down survivors and having to endure one of the longest stuns in the game at the end of their power. Very significant.

    Injuring survivors easily = not significant

  • @supersonic853 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889477#Comment_889477

    Gets .2 more speed loses synergy to all the perks that made him niche at best including dark devotion which was the only way to down a survivor for 30 seconds and cleansing a totem takes longer then mending great.

    But the thing is, they buff Legion himself wich makes his power better, and there are only 3 perks that you could use, and they are not that great

  • @Brucecastro81 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889483#Comment_889483

    But the thing is, they buff Legion himself wich makes his power better, and there are only 3 perks that you could use, and they are not that great

    Hello. I've played Legion for over 200 hours. This nerf made me leave the game and uninstall. I'm done and have no faith in BHVR.

  • @UlvenDagoth said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889489#Comment_889489

    Hello. I've played Legion for over 200 hours. This nerf made me leave the game and uninstall. I'm done and have no faith in BHVR.

    Thanks for argumenting and explaining why Legion was "NeRfEd".



    fReAkInG BHVR bUfFiNg SuRvIvOrS, tHiS gAmE iS bAd LeT mE iNsTaL fOrTnItE

  • @Brucecastro81 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889494#Comment_889494

    Thanks for argumenting and explaining why Legion was "NeRfEd".

    fReAkInG BHVR bUfFiNg SuRvIvOrS, tHiS gAmE iS bAd LeT mE iNsTaL fOrTnItE

    Okay well, thank you for insulting in instantly and then suggesting I like Fortnite. How dare you suggest I like that trash. Also the rest of your "Mocking" couldn't be farther from what i believe. That being said, I do not wish to speak further to you.

  • @toxic_clown said:

    legion was nerfed. anyone who thinks it wasn't a nerf either doesn't play legion, doesn't know what they're talking about, or is lying.

    I'm a main Legion and I think that, just cuz its not your opinion doesn't mean someone different is #########

  • @UlvenDagoth said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889514#Comment_889514

    Okay well, thank you for insulting in instantly and then suggesting I like Fortnite. How dare you suggest I like that trash? Also the rest of your "Mocking" couldn't be farther from what i believe. That being said, I do not wish to speak further to you.

    that was salty

  • @Acromio said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885852#Comment_885852

    "The good leatherface players never have to camp and do well with him."

    The good Leatherkek players are good M1 killers players. Because that's what Leatherkek is, if you don't use him to camp. A M1 killer with a big terror radius.

    That's becasue leatherface is an m1 killer with a situational one hit down. You need to be in the same range roughly to get a chainsaw hit but with the emblems it less viable if they want to rank up.

    It says a lot about the skill of a player who doesn't camp with him over those that do feeling its the only way he can be played.

  • No, this was a pretty hard nerf. Sure you can get hits a little easier, but your power is still no lethal and you have very little stall as Legion. They also buffed BT again after they did on the PTB, and now making it so its just running around (which makes no sense conceptually), is just a slap in the face to killers for a perk that is already one of the most powerful meta perks.

  • @Brucecastro81 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/889483#Comment_889483

    But the thing is, they buff Legion himself wich makes his power better, and there are only 3 perks that you could use, and they are not that great

    Yes, this was a slight buff to his power. Fasting vault and slightly faster movement speed really only gives you a free hit and then you are looped easily. The buff is outweighed by the loss in Synergy and you said it yourself he now only has 3 perks to rely on now to be effective, in which they aren't great. That's a nerf, the nerfs outweigh the buff.

    Also his power isn't even that much better as if you did read the DW changes, his DW get nerfed even more, which led to BT being buffed again.

    If you still call this a buff, then there is no point in convincing you as apparently you can't see the fact in front of you.

  • But that doesn't mean injuring survivors is not significant, still less than downing, but people are one shot down

  • @Hellbughunter said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/109165/how-legion-mains-feel-right-now

    As someone that doesn't use on hit perks. This is the best legion ever was.

    Exactly

  • @Brucecastro81 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/893198#Comment_893198

    But that doesn't mean injuring survivors is not significant, still less than downing, but people are one shot down

    I still rarely see people get 2 hits much less 3 with the minor speed increase. You still have 4 seconds of stun for no reason that you can't see blood or scratch marks, you still lose your power on a miss, and you lose half your power on a normal M1 hit. They are worse.

  • @Vetrathene said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/893790#Comment_893790

    I still rarely see people get 2 hits much less 3 with the minor speed increase. You still have 4 seconds of stun for no reason that you can't see blood or scratch marks, you still lose your power on a miss, and you lose half your power on a normal M1 hit. They are worse.

    Nothing that you said was changed, these problems are just Legion being Legion (by being Legion I mean being weak)

  • @ASpazNamedSteve said:

    I think the Frenzy buffs are more significant than people think.

    Sure, you can run faster, but if there's no pressure with hitting someone with Frenzy. Frenzy is nonlethal, but DW is supposed to pressure survivors... however... with both nerfs to DW going live it makes them worse.

    Sure, it gets rid of the Nemesis/BOP + Legion combo... but that should've been in the game regardless. Its punishing people for stunning a legion mid frenzy. That should be punished as a bad move, since a pallet stun is shorter than the Legions normal stun. Not only is it wasting a pallet, but its reducing the stun time of the killer.

    Ultimately, I think that DW is the main problem with Legion. It can't be too strong, since survivors would complain, but it keeps Legion from being good.

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