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Don't know why people think Hag, Doctor, Nurse or Plague and others are strong.
Hag has no special ability except for her teleport traps and probably would loose against everyone except maybe a single Legion member or Ghostface
Doctor has literally no ability to hurt anyone except for in his Mori where he has to be very close to his victim.
Nurse gets stunned after her blinks so she might get one hit before she would get killed.
Freddy is also very bad because the Entity limits his ability and his glove isn't very strong compared to other killer weapons
Wraith has the only advantage of waiting for the last killer alive to be weakend enough to take them down otherwise he is very vulnerable while uncloaking
Pig, Ghostface and Clown all have small weapons and their power doesn't really hurt or injure their opponents
Plague only has her puke as weapon and the only version that could be dangerous would be the one that hurts survivors and i'm not sure if this
is effective on other killers so she is probably like Pig etc.
Legion is similar but if all 4 fight together could take down some of the others but stronger killers would probably still win
Hillbilly/Leatherface are dangerous if they come in range but both aren't as smart as some other killers and could be tricked
Deathslingers weapon isn't really deadly at least his lore says it isn't anymore buy multiple hits would probably give him an advantage but on the other hand a bajonet isn't really an effective weapon and a skilled fighter could avoid it
i don't know much about Demogorgon but i assume he is similar to Leatherface and Billy
I think Oni is also similar to Billy and Leatherface but he has the advantage of his rage mode which could make him more immune to injuries but also use more risky tactics which could lead to his demise
Spirt is very good because she is already dead and the probably only way to beat her is to cut of her her hand with her weapon or vaporize her
Trapper is god tier aswell he can beat most killers with raw power and use his traps to immobilise his opponents and take them down and because he got tortured by the Entity he probably is also a bit more immune to smaller injuries like knife attacks
Huntress is god tier because she can use her hatchets to kill anyone at range the only thing to win would be get close and then it still would be hard becuase she seems to be quite strong
I haven't seen the Halloween movies but as people say Michael can't really die but he could probably just be overpowered with raw strenght, tricked to step into a trap and tie him up or maybe be cut him in half with a chainsaw. If those don't work he wins by default
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If I remember correctly the devs said in on of their dev streams to a similar question that they don't want to straight out say or deny that a character is hetero or homosexual because they want the players to create a headcannon for themselves
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@AAAAA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/969593#Comment_969593
For one thing, Evan is a rich white guy that was probably raised in the late 1800s in America. It's possible, if not likely, that he was raised to be prejudiced against foreigners and/or black people.
But more importantly, Philip is poor. He's a worker. Evan was taught to look down upon blue collar workers. At best, Evan would see Philip as an expendable resource. At worst, he would see Philip as a parasite trying to leech off of his success and hard work.
This could be possible but I think you are missing a very important information about the Trapper.
The Trapper was tortured into submission by the Entity and wouldn't dare to not follow the rules and orders given to him by the Entity.
It is also not clear how much of his old self is still in the Trapper maybe he got tortured into a mindless killingmachine with no other thoughts
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Why wouldn't the Trapper like the Wraith? I have never seen any mention that the Trapper doesn't like immigrants in his Lore
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In the Hallowed Blight they explained how Trapper got captured
If you want to know how it happens here are the two Paragraphs explaining the capture and here is the link if you want to read the entire story https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Hallowed_Blight
23 October - Experiment
I'm close to death, I can feel it. When I returned to the laboratory, I started experimenting with the putrid nectar and distilled it into a foul serum. But I made a terrible mistake. I injected the serum into a dead rodent, whose pupils dilated, and its body shook. I tried to restrain it, but the creature bit into my arm, ripping my wound open. I stopped the bleeding, but I fear the damage is done.
24 October - Experiment II
I awoke to a terrible cry booming from the cellar and a violent bout of nausea. Through the vile ordeal, I started to recollect what had happened. Tainted with the foul serum, my wound had swollen with lymph, at which point my assailant returned. Most of our fight was a blur, but I can recall red tears trickling down his gruesome cheeks as I clawed at his face. And some moment later when I kicked him, sending him crashing into a brick wall. The power I felt then… there are no words for it. I now know that there is truth to Vigo's methods. Another cry. My assailant, now chained in the cellar, must be getting restless. This is just the beginning.
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I think the summoning of the portal from the demon and Ash failed because if we look at what happened Ash tried to resist going into the portal as if something unexpected occured. Why would he hold onto the locker and say "FUU" when he got sucked into the portal even though he even threatened the demon because he wanted to enter the portal? The answer it wasn't the portal of the demon but the Entity taking both of them. The only question unanswered then would be what happened to the demon
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Why didn't Legion receive a Halloween skin like all other killers?
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@SureSpear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/651927#Comment_651927
Bizarre response to this specific thread but also good point. If it's attracted to and hangs around any sort of mass death then shouldn't most of Europe be capable of falling prey to it after the Black Death alone?
The respone was rather only aimed at the part in this persons comment that mentioned the Plague not the other one but it wouldn't let me just quote the plague part.
Regarding your question why Europe isn't connected to the realm of the Entity. I think the Entity still isn't strong enough to manifest itself into such a big area.
We know from the Huntress lore that the Entity is already in some spots of Europe that had do with war but still is limited to small areas that are not inhabitated by many people.
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@VolantConch1719 said:
"The Entity is a nameless evil that lives in the space between our world and our imagination, the kind of place only revealed in dreams. To obtain its source of sustainment, The Entity reaches out into the hearts of susceptible victims and corrupts them into performing hideous acts of violence, because the only way for it to manifest itself in the real world is through an act of violence so extreme, that it results in fatalities."
This paragraph from the wiki kind of explains it. She can't hang around college campuses unless you have a horrific event occur there. Plague is really the only oddball in this case, as she didn't kill intentionally anyone and was just trying to save her people.
Also, given how she has the power to literally create pocket worlds, I don't think it would take much energy to perform necromancy.
In The Plagues lore it is mentioned that before she would have died she performed one last prayer and my guess is that the Entity answered her prayer as a "God" and "saved" her in return for her doing everything the Entity asks her to do.
It was mentioned in her lore that she banished herself out of desperation to appease the gods so she would very likely agreed to this deal and because she was also very religious she probably thinks if a god wants her to do something as example kill unbelievers who is she to doubt a god?
The only other explanation if the first one isn't correct is that the cave she and her followers were in had a stronger connection to the Entity as most parts of the world
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In Benedicts Journal he writes this: "Once again, I had found a place touched by the darkest of evils, so powerful that it spread like a virus in the area, consuming the world around it, rotting the core from within. The locals of Wetherfield would not discuss or talk further of the town of Weeks. The locals acted like the sort of thing you would see in your weekly Penny Dreadful, their eyes wild with terror. What happened here?"
This shows us that Benedict knows a bit of the Entity after he researched a lot and that others that work like he did could learn about the Entity
In the paragraph he also says the local didn't want to talk about the town of Weeks they are afraid to talk about the topic what lets us guess that they know that something strange is happening there.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/612437#Comment_612437
Except the devs are Canadian and speak French, not German.
So you are saying because BHVR is French and in French the article is female the Entity is female.
That means if Behaviour would have been as example German speaking company the Entity would have been male or as an English developer it would have no gender? The gender of any living creature isn't determined by an article of a language and the actual gender of a creature doesn't change in a different language. The article only says that the WORD not the creature/object associated with it is male/female or neither.
Again we have no confirmation from anyone if the Entity even can have a gender and a developer that called the Entity she is also no confirmation as they also do mistakes and spelling errors as they are not native english speakers.
If you want you can call the Entity "she" but I personally think it just isn't gramatically correct
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The lore never mentions if the Entity has a gender and it is highly unlikely that it can be compared to any living creatures that need males or females to create babys.
As we don't know for sure if the Entity has a gender I would say the only correct way to call it, is it.
Even if the acrticle in French is female that doesn't mean it is female
as example in German "the Entity" is translated into "der Entitus" and
"der" would be a male article.
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You forgot the Plague.
I would also put the Clown into the the category "Willing compliance" because he went into the Entitys realm and just did what he did before killing and as a reward the Entity allowed him to bring Maurice into the Entitys world.
Regarding the Pig I think she also should be put into "Willing compliance". All the things she thinks in her lore are right after she got taken. So she understandably is unsure where she is and tries to theorize where she is and what happened to her as one moment before she was on the verge of dying inside a building and now she is healthy in a dark forest. She knows she isn't in the real world anymore and thinks all the things she did were correct and now continues her work but even more deadly as before.
In case of the Huntress I could imagine that the same happend to her as the Hillbilly, and Leatherface. All three have in common that they aren't educated/smart and because of this the Entity couldn't really make deals with them, she also doesn't look like she was tortured and willing compliance would say that she does it because she wants to, which i can't imagine to be the case.
Another point for the argument she kills because of fear is her humming. Her mother always did this when she was a kid to comfort the Huntress and then she started humming in the realm of the Entity to make her forget her fear.
Furthermore if she would have hummed in the real world while hunting, her prey would have known where she is and then run away.
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1) The Entity can help the killer like the with perk Whisper and make is easier finding them, regarding not being able to catch them we know the Entity controls all maps so the Entity could make it harder for survivors to escape like increasing the killers speed, manipulating the maps in favour of the killer, etc
2) If these Survivors won't feed the Entity anymore I could see them being placed into the Void otherwise as long as they have emotions it will feed the Entity and we shouldn't forget the main emotion is hope so this kind of self sacrifice probably creates hope in the Survivor that through his sacrifice the other will survive
3) Same as the second point as long as they produce enough emotions they will be reused and if they won't feed the Entity anymore the Entity can just lure new survivors into the realm
4) I think the only way the Entity would interact with a Survivor outside the "normal" cases is to make them into a Killer otherwise there is probably nothing a Survivor could do for the Entity what it couldn't do.
5) First of all this situation would never happen because the Killers power and everything else is enhanced by the Entity but as it is a hypothetical situation I would guess it would just let the hook destroy itself
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@Pierre said:
So Ghostface where does he fall in the categories.
It would obviously be natural born killers as he killed before the Entity took him and when the Entity took him it says in his Bio that he smiled in anticipation
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/412515#Comment_412515
With that hum, do you seriously think she ambushed them?
Do you know if she hummed outisde the realm of the entity? Also she wouldn't have killed any animal she hunted if she did hum the entire time like in the game. So it is likely she didn't do that before she was taken
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/394918#Comment_394918
Er, she's managed to kill soldiers who entered her forest, there's no doubt Huntress has fighting experience.
Billy might be able to endure things, but his leg would undoubtedly be abused and he'd have no chance. And while Doctor might be massive, he's probably not strong in a fight.
Huntress though, shes a trained warrior. Just check out her lore and cosmetics. She even takes down villages to kidnap little girls.
The Huntress has no fighting experience the only thing she did was kill villagers that were very likely unarmed and in regards to the soldiers she killed she very likely ambushed them in her territory she knew like her own house and also because close range weapons are no match for guns and it is also very unlikely that there were a bunch of soldiers with only melee weapons she fought in an head on fight
To fight someone you actually need someone that defends themself so you can learn how to deal with them and improve your skill but as none of her victims seemed to have fought her she is no real warrior.
Also none of her cosmetics mention her being a warrior but they mention multiple times prey, hunting and the head gears are clearly hunting throphys or references to animals as prey. She is no doubt a hunter and predator that takes her prey down through ambushes what most hunters do in some form but no warrior
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Why should the Hillbilly & Doctor loose against them? They are way taller and stronger than all of the survivors.
I also wouldn't see the hag winning against them as she is so weak and one punch could possibly break her bones as she is so skinny but her hand right could possibly be a problem if they don't avoid it.
Also just a small correction the Huntress is no trained warrior she is a Hunter and ambushes/hunts her prey. She has no fighting experience with humans and is also not educated but she would still win looking at her size and strenght
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This question was once answered by the devs in this stream: https://youtu.be/GI0NOK6jrts?t=2537 at 42:18. In short she didn't get it
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@Circlesho said:
@rj1567 said:
No killer except the Trapper and Doctor got tortured into submission. All other killers still look very human like or fitting to their lore. I still would say that then Clown is the most evil one as he enjoyed killing he did it as a hobbyThis is definitely untrue. It's generally accepted that any original character that either was A)) physically warped by the entity, and/or
) was given an otherworldly power by the entity was tortured into killing.Philip Ojomo- You can tell by his wooden skin and voice, as well as his obvious reluctance to killing, as well as his ability being completely entity-fueled, that he was horribly tortured by the entity, probably the most of them all.
Sally Smithson- Hers is a little vague, but I think she was tortured. The murders she commited in life were done as a mercy to tortured mentally ill people, her power is definitely given by the entity, and the devs confirmed she feels pain whenever she uses it. She doesn't want to torture, as the entity's realm does, she wants to mercy kill. If she actually killed the survivors, they would be free of pain, given mercy by her hand. I don't think she would at all willingly go along with an extensive torture session by the entity.
Evan MacMillan- This is an odd one. The only real evidence we have for his torture are his backstory and looks. He is very obviously scarred; steel sticking out of his body, heavy scars, and the fact that in his lore he originally never wanted to kill, but was forced to by his father. I think the entity played the same role, as the entity does with many killers (think bubba).
Herman Carter- This is the one I've seen the most disagreement with. I don't think he was tortured at all. As the entity does, I think it assumed the role of Stamper with the CIA, where they gifted him boundless devices to use however he felt on his victims. In his lore, near the end of his natural life, he had been very very focused on learning the secrets of mind control in his shock victims. I think that the entity's world is just his own institution, free reign to torture his subjects and then study its affects and their reactions. His appearance is... garish, and suggesting he was tortured, but I think near the end of his natural life he inflicted that upon himself in order to study first hand the effects and effectiveness of his methods. Best way to summarize it from his point of view, "To understand it, I have to experience it".The Wraith doesn't look like he was tortured at all only a little part of his head looks weird but nothing else suggests he was physically tortured I would rather say the Entity somehow convinced him to start killing or tortured him mentally but he definetly got altered by the entity in some way if we look at his eyes or the wooden looking things from his head.
The Nurse was a broken woman and mentally instable there was no real reason to torture her into submission also the wiki says this "According to the Developers, The Nurse, at the point of having strangled the Asylum patient, was "bat-######### crazy" and thus more susceptible to The Entity's corruption."
The Trapper was also tortured confirmed by the developers themselves in their streams
The Doctor vanished after he massacred everyone at the institution so he either made himself look like he does in game before he got taken or the Entity made him look like that by torture
First i would say that the electrical wires that go through his body are unlikely to be done by himself as this would be almost impossible to do to by yourself and there was no person that would ever help him do something this strange, also from his head cosmetic which reads "Strapped in his electroconvulsive gear the Doctor is forever forced in a maniacal grin." which suggest that he isn't wearing it because he wants to.
His eyes are also not normal and the description of his Power says: "Is it a gift or a curse? The Entity has ignited a corrupted and inexhaustible spark in the Doctors heart" what further suggests the Entity that the Entity tortured him with the things he had done to others. The possibility could be there that he received it as a "gift" but looking at all this evidence it is more likely he got tortured. -
The music sounds awesome but I think it doesn't fit to DbD's fast chases and at least i think that the music is too slow. It reminds of of a chase of someone chasing you in walk tempo
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No killer except the Trapper and Doctor got tortured into submission. All other killers still look very human like or fitting to their lore. I still would say that then Clown is the most evil one as he enjoyed killing he did it as a hobby
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I think it would be Jeff as he did literally go to an art school while none of the others did.
Also the Legion asked him to spray for them so it is very likely that they aren't very talented at it.
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@VolantConch1719 said:
@rj1567 said:
Loved it!
Also I think one of the many reasons the Wraith and Nurse could be connected is because both of their powers let them interact with the Spirit World what gives them some kind of thing only the two of them shareSpirit says hello (I consider her invisibility the Spirit World).
On a note of those interactions rj made, I really like them, although this would imply that Freddy's ability is only active in trials. I mean, no evidence to say otherwise, but still.
@redsopine01 said:
rj1567 said:Loved it!
Also I think one of the many reasons the Wraith and Nurse could be connected is because both of their powers let them interact with the Spirit World what gives them some kind of thing only the two of them sharing
dont forgot the spirit dude lol she walks that realm 2
Nowhere is it stated that the Spirit uses the Spirit World the only thing that is mentioned what she uses is the Ethereal Plane and also the wiki says the Spirit world is only used by Wraith and the Nurse and the Ethereal Plane is only used be the spirit
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@Mikeadatrix said:
Trapper-Reserved but isn't opposed to having a brief conversation with the chattier killers. Will never initiate it though. Also acts as the "Mouth of the Entity". Probably dislikes the Doctor and the Legion. Doc because he's a handful, Legion because he thinks they're unworthy of the "honor" of being killers for the Entity. However, he shares a strange bond with Amanda. The two can be seen talking and building traps and strange contraptions. The Doctor swears that he saw the Trapper laugh once when he was with the Pig but no one believes him.Wraith- Very reserved. Shares a strange bond with the Nurse, which explains the bandages on him. Used to refuse to cooperate with anyone other than her but he's come around to the Spirit. She seems to sense fragments of a good soul in him and the Nurse. Shattered entirely and nearly impossible to find, but there. Just dormant. No issues with anyone since he doesn't go near anyone he doesn't feel comfortable around.
Hillbilly- Peculiar. Has fits of rowdiness and has fits of isolation. Just like a child throwing a tantrum, he can swap emotions very quickly. Mumbles incoherent nonsense but basic words and phrases are able to be comprehended if you spend enough time with him. Nice to those who show him affection such as the Nurse and the Cannibal and the Hag, who has become his "new" family. Whether or not he "dines" with them is up in the air. No issues with anyone because everyone is a bit scared of him.
Nurse- Doesn't speak due to her... condition. Still makes an effort to visit everyone in the Killers' side of the Fog. As stated above, most fond towards the Wraith for reasons unknown. Feels a great deal of pity for the Spirit, knows that she doesn't belong here. No qualms with anyone.
Shape- Don't expect to get a word out of him and do not approach under any circumstances. Does what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants. He's gone as far as attempting to kill almost every killer that showed up before him. He's "calmed" himself but still, extremely competitive. Detests the Trapper especially. Has had numerous altercations with the Nightmare but the two seem to tolerate each other now. Enough to warrant spending time waiting for trials near each other. It's unclear if the Shape enjoys listening to the Nightmare but it wouldn't be stupid to assume he does.
Hag- Spends the majority of her time with the Cannibal. Not because the two like each other but because of well... the predicament that the two share. An eternal hunger for human flesh. Very barbaric and barely human, the Hag shouldn't be approached by anyone other than "Bubba". The Pig, the Nightmare, and the Legion all stay very far away because of this. She's not intentionally malevolent, that's just the way she was forced to be.
Huntress- Also very reserved (notice a trend?). Keeps to herself and preps for each trial after completing one. Enjoys the company of the Nurse but always is surprised that she's able to get away so easily. Likes the Legion because they're small and a bit taller than the kids she used to "take care" of. The Legion is very creeped out by her, other than Susie that is. Everyone else that's cognisant finds her peculiar, the others don't give a damn.
Doctor- An outlier amongst the Killers.Very loud, very obnoxious, and very interrogative. After each trial, he pesters the Killers for details and this leads to a large number of quarrels. The Entity would step in but they find the in-fighting quite entertaining. Writes down the information he obtains in a thick and grisly looking journal. Reading it would be a huge mistake. Trust me. Don't. It wouldn't be fun. Doesn't hate anyone but everyone basically hates him, to one degree or another.
Cannibal- Mute aside from grunting and squealing like a pig, the Cannibal is an interesting case. He can actually cook, despite there being no need to eat in the Entity's realm. The Hag appreciates him greatly for this but still, her stomach is bottomless. Enjoys tinkering on his saw with the Hillbilly when not eating/cooking. No one messes with him because everyone feels a bit bad for him and his mental state. The Nightmare stays away because he worries about what that chainsaw can do to him.
Nightmare (I like to think of this Freddy as Englund despite the facts. I just detest the remake, okay?)- Basically a toned down Doctor. Aggressive, obnoxious, charismatic, and narcissistic. Insists that he's simultaneously better than everyone at killing and just a poor soul who was framed during his life as a human. Makes an effort to mess with all the killers. The thing that sets him apart from the Doc is his ability to make a few of the killers chuckle with garbage jokes and puns (Frank enjoys having quip/roast wars with the Nightmare. The winner of these fights is usually a tie since both parties end up laughing til they cry). Hangs out with the Shape the most due to him having infinite patience when he wants. Would never say it, but he has a certain liking for Frank.
Pig- This is where it gets interesting. The Pig is one of the most human/sane killers. She has a journal and writes in it frequently, documenting a plethora of things. Think Benedict Baker from the other perspective. There are slivers of remorse in her, but they're quickly snuffed out every time she puts on the mask. She isn't obnoxious but she does enjoy conversations. She's the only person to reach the Trapper other than the Entity. Besides the Trapper, she enjoys hanging out with the Legion since she's into the same aesthetic and music and she's only a handful of years older.
Clown- Despite being a clown, the Clown is very reserved. He occasionally shares a conversation with the Nightmare or the Trapper but other than that, he keeps to himself. No one knows why but it's because the Clown is deeply disturbed mentally and fears that if he opens himself up to anyone they'll ruin everything he's worked for (feathers, fingers, etc.). No qualms with anyone but greatly dislikes the Doctor and Huntress. The Doctor because of his insistence that the Clown tell jokes and dance and the Huntress because she's one of the fingers he desires for his collection but knows he can never have. Weird stuff, man. Weird. Stuff.
Spirit- A truly sad case. The Spirit is one of the most innocent killers and is very reserved. She spends most of her time doing a mix of seething and sobbing. The Nurse helps her and makes sure the Doctor comes nowhere near her. She's like a daughter to her. The Wraith understands her grief and tries to comfort her as best he can. Just because they're murderers doesn't mean they don't have regrets and their fair share of grief.
Legion (Since there are four individuals here, they'll each be split up, all references to the Legion above applies to all of them though):
Frank: A smartass and someone who grew up a bully, Frank has had some trouble behaving himself in his new home. He originally tried the "tough guy" approach but quickly realized he was fresh meat and the only thing stopping the others from killing him is the "spider crab thingy in the sky". Spends a lot of time with Julie, because, well, they're dating. Enjoys listening to the Nightmare speak and tell stories and he also spies on the Shape (who's fully aware of Frank by the way) because he thinks he's awesome. Spends his private time daydreaming and listening to his walkman and the strange punk mixtapes that he keeps finding. He's got a theory that they're a gift from the Entity. Has no beef with anyone.
Julie: A preppy girl who wanted to be punk so bad she fell in with the wrong crowd and eventually became the wrong crowd, Julie became far more stoic and stalwart once she entered the Entity's realm. She loves Frank still and still loves spending time with her friends but she's become far more serious. She has a notebook she draws in that has caught the attention of the Doctor and the Pig. Surprisingly, she can put up with the Doctor to a certain degree and enjoys the spare literature he has. No issues with anyone.
Joey: Just as bold and brash as before, Joey enjoys causing a ruckus and has done his best to prove his worth to the others. Whether this is through attempts at intimidation or blatant showboating, Joey persists on being a "badass". Deep down inside, he's a bit terrified at the fact that he's a serial killer and surrounded by others like him. Spends a lot of time talking to the other Legionnaires and has attempted conversation with the Trapper multiple times (Joey assumes he's the leader) which was met with replies that were more akin to a "leave me be, kid" than an actual answer. When all else fails, hanging out with Frank and causing a commotion is always an option. He's tried to start fights with the others but has gotten nothing from anyone.
Susie: The shy and naive girl from Ormond has surprisingly found her place. She thinks all the killers are awesome and spends most of her free time away from the Legion attempting to start a conversation. The Shape even lets her ramble to him but picks her up and puts her near the other Legionnaires when he gets sick of her. Enjoys spending time with the Pig since the two have similar music tastes. The Pig really does like Susie and is considering making her a protege of hers. No one has any issues with her because everyone practically likes her.
Jesus Christ... That took ages to write down. Hopefully, you guys like it and hopefully, @not_Queen or any other dev agrees with some aspects of this!
Loved it!
Also I think one of the many reasons the Wraith and Nurse could be connected is because both of their powers let them interact with the Spirit World what gives them some kind of thing only the two of them share -
The devs said in one of their last streams that it is just because of the gameplay as they didn't want to restrict people in what survivor they could choose
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Why is the Hillbilly indepted with the Entity? The Entity never did anything for him except for taking him.
Also saying that the Doctor is a evil being is correct but he was also forced into working for the Entity. Why would the Doctor wear this torture gear it just hurts him and makes him more distracted? Also his head sosmetic says he is forced into a maniacal grin implying that it isn't really his choice and if you look at his base body cosmetic he has electric stuff in his arms indicating some kind of torture -
@borna_lk said:
I’ve boughten all the dlc because I support the game, I don’t buy cosmetics because they’re overpriced to line the devs pockets, not to increase the game quality. I have respect for a lot of members in the community but there’s some complete morons and most of them reside on pc with the same stupid answer to everything. “Buy a pc if you don’t like it,” but no I’m good fam, you can go ahead and spend several thousand on a computer that’ll outdate itself in 3 years. (Don’t bother saying ps will outdate itself in several years, because mine will cost me several hundred in depreciation, yours will cost thousands)No PC is so outdated that you need to buy a new one every 3 years most of games will run absolutely fine even if your PC is a bit outdated thats why we have graphic settings. I had my last PC for over 7 years and the only thing that changed was the grapics card and the only problem with the age of the PC were that it had a lot of CPU usage in some games especially newer ones and made them lag from time to time, but i could still play every single one of them until i got my new one that is way better than my old PC and didn't cost over 1000€
I also have a normal PS4 with an 1TB external storage as 500 GB is just not enough and also bought DbD but none of the DLC as i don't play it a lot because i don't like playing with a controller and the game doesn't run very well at least it doesn't as killer and also in other games on the PS4 i have noticed frame drops from time to time not game breaking but annoying as none of this games had any problems on neither my old or new computer.
But explaining that PC is more poweful than consoles that is also why you pay a bit more whey you buy it, but is the cheaper variant to get games and you don't have to pay for PS Plus to play online and by that becoming more or less equal in costs over time should be common knowledge. -
Sounds just like Last Year and at least I thought that respawning was a horrible concept for both sides as it makes killers feel weak and for the survivors it takes away to try to not die.
Regarding this concept in DbD I think that this is bad as it makes a whole lot of perks useless especially those that are affecting people in the dying state and hooks.
It would also make that no matter how bad you are as survivor you are given another chance and remove skill from the game as it doesn't matter if you loose the chase you respawn anyway.I know you said that we should ignore the lore but we can't as it is a important or at least something the devs care about to be reflected in the game. So by implementing this mechanic it would make the that the devs are either totally ignoring the lore in the game what they won't do as for eveything in the game there is some kind of explanation for it or having to rewrite everything what they are not gonna do as this would be too much work
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@LCGaster said:
The questions are about the Entity (I like to refer to it as a she). So, we know that the Entity doesn't feel emotions like we do, but can she feel emotions similar to curiosity and interest? Is it possible for the Entity to come to an agreement of sorts with someone/something? Since the Entity is a living, biological creature, is she cautious or is she willing to experiment and try new things? This is all for now, if I have more questions in the future I will ask again.
Thank you for working on this amazing game.
Love you all,
LawrenceThe Entity made agreements with killers like the Spirit by promising her revenge but she had to serve the Entity and the Clown by allowing him to take the horse with him as reward for him wanting to serve under the Entity. Also the devs said that the Entity was experimenting at first and then came to the concept of killers vs. survivors like we know it today.
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You get maps from the Macmillan estate, Coldwind Farm and Autohaven WWreckers more frequent as they have the most variations (each one has 5) while most others have only 1 except for Swamp and Asylum both have 2. The devs also showed in one of their last dev streams that all maps are played or or less the same amount of times
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@AnthonyC2014 said:
@Orion said:
@AnthonyC2014 said:
@THE_HOOMAN_CHILD said:
Does the killer choose who to take with them? Is it just random ?Or is it much more sinister ?!!Not a loop, actually. If you die the entity takes you to the Void, where you sit there since it has no further purpose for you, you have given all your hope. If you survive, you return to the campfire and wait for your next trial. The loop only occurs if you survive.
Wrong. If you die, you go back to the campfire. If you survive, you go back to the campfire. If you become desensitized and stop having strong emotional reactions She can feed on, then you go to the Void.
The official wiki says they only return upon escape, and judging on the fact that the survivors all the sudden stop struggling, it kind of seems like they've given up hope. Quote.
"It is a place to which the Survivors return upon escape, awaiting their next trial."
I may be wrong about that part, and you may return the the Campfire when you die.
Also, Moris support the fact that when you are hooked you are put in the void and the emotions are sucked out of you, since the entity rewards the killer less if they outright kill the survivor, and if you are killed, how are you supposed to return to the campfire afterwards?
The only other piece of evidence I can think of right now is the old intro.
Almost every survivor gets hooked.
The protagonist of the intro runs through the area, and she sees one survivor who seems to be resembling Jake, or maybe Dwight, trapped in a trap, Protagonist leaves him behind and runs into the basement where we see someone who could be a different version of Claudette? The protagonist herself seems to be based off of Meg. She hides in the locker and the killer finds her. This heavily implies she was hooked since no one had Decisive Strike at the same and there were hooks less than 5 meters away. The other guy? Like a trapper would leave a free meal out to dry, he got hooked and that's how Meg was able to even have a moment to find the basement. The person on the hook... That's kind of obvious.
Sorry if this is a bit of a stretch, but I think all 3 of these survivors were killed and the other survivor may have been Vigo or Benedict Baker and escaped (Benedict because he literally says he's escaped through the hatch in a journal entry) via the hatch. The reason I was relating them all to our current original 3 survivors was because of the fact that they might have been the ones who taught our Original 4 how to use certain perks.
Benedict or Vigo could substitute for Dwight (Both seem to be somewhat team players), which means they taught Dwight the skill Leader before disappearing to another realm, or possibly getting caught in their own trial and going into the Void, the latter being more likely considering Benedict seems to be losing most of his hope to escape the trial, but Vigo seems to be more likely to have disappeared somewhere else considering it's probably him in the Hallowed Blight, or that could be Benedict again.
The protagonist is obviously based off Meg, she runs practically everywhere and seems to display Sprint Burst at the start of the chase.
The woman on the hook appears to have some sort of knowledge based on just general appearance.
The man who got trapped could be Jake since he displays signs of Iron Will (He barely screams).
Possibly these people were older survivors who got sacrificed and put in the void and the person who isn't seem escaped via hatch like I said before. Maybe they taught the teachable perks to the original 4 survivors?
Update on original post:
After reading through Wiki looking for more evidence that when you die you get put in the Void, I found out that the Entity doesn't care about the killers too much either. It even tries to anger the killer by placing Pallets, taking Laurie even though she has Decisive Strike, and splitting the hooks apart so the survivor has hope to escape and the killer is enraged by their constant wiggling.
The offerings support this theory as well, if they give him a certain offering, he will put Survivors at an advantage, making them feel hopeful that they can possibly escape.
Just a theory
There is one quote of Benedict Baker in his journal that proves the whole if you die you don't die forever but return to the campfire theory "With each "death" I feel myself weaken, a little piece of my soul devoured by the darkness before I awake." To your question of how would people return if they are moried/die on the hook it is probably like this: If they die their vision is fading black and they awake at the campfire as if they had slept.
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Most of the things you suggested have absolutely nothing to do with the lore as it can be expanded easily that as example the entity tries new types of trials that are more effective in harvesting emotions.
Personally I don't want talking survivors it is so stupid. Why would you talk in a place where every noice could kill you?
This isn't like Last Year where the survivors locations are always known so it doesn't matter or F13 where you use the sense ability and are close to them and then when they are talking also doesn't matter.
This is DbD were stealth is actually an option you can use. Also all survivors are strangers to one another so there are even more reasons to not talk to each other. Also it could be possible that maybe the entity makes it so they can't talk.But a singleplayer campaign or just singleplayer missions with the option to also have it as COOP would be something i would love
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@SamSkywalker said:
I'm new here , but here's my observation :- Survivors are all experts in surviving fields , Trap detector , Running , Leading , Healing , Bill ( l4d ), etc . These survivors are able to survive in a normal circumstances .
- Killers are in contrast , they are all merciless killers .
- Together , they form an trial of the best survivors and the best killers , who will prevail ? That's the point of the Entity .
- So i don't think Killers get to choose who to take it with them , and i'm not sure if it's a loop of murder and death ? Or when they escape , they escape ? Need to clarify on this though xD
Survivors are no experts they were just normal people that either learned how to survive in the entitys world are had some little knowledge before they were taken but they were no experts.
The reason the Entity lets Survivors try to escape is as the Entity feeds of of emotions especially of hope and every sacrifice is a "meal" for the entity.
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@Baneuus said:
Why The Wraith can't try to hit survivor while he's invisible? He can bodyblock them,that means that he's solid,so why he cant just try to hit,like Freddy,for example? (From the Lore side)The Wraith can't hurt them from the Spirit World (the world he enters when going invisible) and can't interact with anything from the Normal World of the Entity while completely invisible thats why he uncloacks his leg when breaking pallets/gens.
He still has collision with walls and other things like survivors but can't interact with them.
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@THE_HOOMAN_CHILD said:
Does the killer choose who to take with them? Is it just random ?Or is it much more sinister ?!!They were just in places were the Entity has a strong connection to their world and were taken by the entity. The entity doesn't really care who it takes as survivor
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Yes i saved almost 30€ by preordering and waiting instead of waiting to buy it later at a much higher price
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My mask just arrived (i live in Germany)
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I also got my shipping confirmation and in the end i'm glad that i preordered instead of buying it afterwards it costs now 70€ and i got it for 42,50€
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@alivebydeadight said:
@fcc2014 said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
Who does the entity like the most i terms of killers? Who is it's favorite?The ones less physically tortured. The Nurse, Trapper, and Doctor seriously must piss the Entity off to be punished like that.
well hag was like that before she went to the entity realm, same with hillbilly and doctor
The doctor was also tortured if you read his head cosmetic it says that he is forced into his head gear and if i'm not mistaken the devs also said in one of their streams that he doesn't wear it because he wants to
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@douggie123 said:
Just incase the post doesn't work as I want I am gonna post here as well. I found the same scratches the nightmare did on an ambulance outside on the same map which weren't there before. Also Freddy has five claws this only shows 3 claw marks.Just some corrections
1. Freddy has Ingame only 4 claws on his glove
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@douggie123 said:
Just incase the post doesn't work as I want I am gonna post here as well. I found the same scratches the nightmare did on an ambulance outside on the same map which weren't there before. Also Freddy has five claws this only shows 3 claw marks.Just some corrections
1. Freddy has Ingame only 4 claws on his glove
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@douggie123 said:
Just incase the post doesn't work as I want I am gonna post here as well. I found the same scratches the nightmare did on an ambulance outside on the same map which weren't there before. Also Freddy has five claws this only shows 3 claw marks.Just some corrections
1. Freddy has Ingame only 4 claws on his glove
2. On The ambulance are 4 scratches
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Personally for the hook hud i would like somthing like a yellow or just brighter line at the mark at which you will enter the 2nd phase same for killers as a % isn't very useful as there are just 2 points at which something happens and more stuff on the hud isn't something i would like tbh
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To be honest the survivors got cut in half by chainsaws, strangled to death, stabbed multiple times until they die by various weapons so i, don't think that putting your hands in some boxes with knives is a big problem for them as it saves their lives by just cutting themselves a bit
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
All lunges are the same actually, model and attack animation are wonky and can look off, same with Freddy and the Pig, but mechanically its the same.Not all lunges are the same as example hag huntress and myers t1 and 3 have different ranges