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The slow animations you mention are indeed a bug and is tied to something in game. It can happen when you heal fully with a med kit for instance (with certain add ons and don't hit great skill checks). One of the devs have been made aware I believe so it should filter through and be fixed pretty quickly, as when it happens it can be quite a hindrance. It can also make your dead hard animation zoom you across the whole of shack tile while you have the debuff :')
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Chi said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Chi said:
You don't know how to play the Pig. If you use her ambush well, looping is not that much of an issue.Once the pig crouches abandon the loop and run to the next, it's not like there's literally one every 15 metres.
There's your counter.
Survivors tend to stay at the loops. There isn't always an available loop somewhere else. Watch Psychoscorpionz, he is a twitch streamer who mains Pig. ~
Survivors being dumb is not a valid argument sorry, I know the game is tailored to casuals but balance should never be done with casuals in mind but with the best of the best, fun is secondary when it comes to balancing.
The majority of the player base is casual, so of course they will balance it that way. Moreover, based off your posts in the forum, you are in no way, anywhere near "best of the best".
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This spot has been broken for...years? They could have fixed it by now, yet here we are. I guess it doesn't happen as much as the Ironworks did?
@not_Queen Fix your game, Queen!!
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@Giche said:
@only1biggs said:
DS can be played around. Either learn that or don't, just stop whining when answers have been given. Dribble, slug, drop of ledges et al... DS is a BS perk, but it can be played around.
The fact that the only "counters" are as much cheesy and exploitive than the perk itself tell a LOT about the legitimacy of these kind of perks and mechanics.
It's a SHAME than the laziness and greediness of these Devs has made "dribbling" and "gen tapping" legitimate (lul).
That's basically allowed exploits, you all know it.
And you all dare to talk about some kind of "meta" ?
What meta ? The one of "who will be the best at exploiting unintended game mechanic ?
BWHAHAHAHAHA
What meta? I didn't mention a "meta"
As for the "exploits" comment... dropping them from a ledge or slugging isn't an exploit, stop cherry picking. Dribbling is just being smart if you're close to a hook and is situational. Same with slugging.
Moreover, one person gen tapping will take longer to complete the gen, than learning to hit great skill checks properly. If more than one survivor is on one gen and tapping, then it's good for the killer to have them in one spot, especially if you happen to be Billy, Nurse, Huntress, Myers or Clown (maybe leatherface).
The devs being greedy or lazy is just a silly thing to say imo.
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@Giche said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Just break the pallet?Uhm k> @TheDarkLycan said:
if DS is an issue to anykiller just bring unnerving presence or enduring. problem solved
2 perks just that the survivor is not bad enough to miss the skillcheck and is dropped close enough to a pallet to continue looping
"problem solved"
Don't bother.
They know this.
They won't do anything about it.
They'd rather stay on this last straw that @MhhBurgers gave them.Quite convinient, we can no longer talk about balance because of this bad taste pun.
Of course they grasped it, not giving them weapons to do so would be nice tho.
DS can be played around. Either learn that or don't, just stop whining when answers have been given. Dribble, slug, drop of ledges et al... DS is a BS perk, but it can be played around.
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@MhhBurgers said:
Man ur pretty pathetic u know that? Finding stuff like this funny, you remind me of those 4chan basement trolls, laugh at forum posts then cry in their pillow at night when they're alone, not gonna waste my time on u anymore.Uhhh, okay?
Every interaction I have with you, you embarrass yourself. If anyone is pathetic it's you, but that's obvious to everyone now :'D
Also...did you just describe yourself? "A basement 4chan troll crying into a pillow at night when they're alone." Because that was some hard projection :')
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@Giche said:
Don't fall to so obvious bait maybe ?
It's not bait.
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Well, that was...interesting. I think we can all see the level of stupid we are dealing with here. Holy balls! :'D
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@MhhBurgers said:
at least we understand basic game design and math, yes.Keep going, this is gold
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
You sound like a bad killer if you just can't accept your own mistakes. If you can't catch a survivor running around a car, I don't know what to tell you? LOL
And here we go again… a biased survivor who doesn't understand MATHEMATICS!
Simple circle geometry!
That is basically the meaning of "exploiting".You are the ultimate troll. For real LOL :')
The next Duck. facepalm
I leave the explanation of looping, hitboxes and geometry to @OrionIt's not like he'll understand, ppl with no education usually don't understand things that are most basic to us ascended beings.
LOL Oh you're both ascended alright :'D
Tears!
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@Wolf74 said:
@only1biggs said:
You sound like a bad killer if you just can't accept your own mistakes. If you can't catch a survivor running around a car, I don't know what to tell you? LOL
And here we go again… a biased survivor who doesn't understand MATHEMATICS!
Simple circle geometry!
That is basically the meaning of "exploiting".You are the ultimate troll. For real LOL :')
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@MhhBurgers said:
SO basically you want killers to follow the bad survivors and the good ones only get to get downed once the bad ones used up all the pallets.Got it but we're not gonna be satisfied with that sorry.
What would you be satisfied with? The survivors starting on hooks? Them just running toward you? Perhaps they are not allowed any pallets and will be teleported to you if you don't catch them immediately upon seeing them? Bloodlust 3 straight away?
I mean, you think 3 blink Nurse is impressive, so....
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
Uh, Giche...I'm not sure if you're aware, but the vast majority of killers on forums don't want to put the effort in either. Instead of learning to chase better, they blame the game. I understand what you mean, but it works both ways
Chase better...because survivors don't have third person camera so that mistakes are their own and only their own most of the time. Autohaven wreckers with it's unmindgameable pallets comes to mind.
I mean cutting the loop better than the survivor, mind gaming, don't respect pallets etc. In most games, you're supposed to capitalize on the mistake on your opponent. There are tiles/maps where this is more difficult, so you just gotta close the gap and not mess up.
Cutting the loop better than the survivor in other words having a bad survivor. I know the game is balanced for the ######### casual base, but it shouldn't be. Survivors should have to drop pallets to buy some time or vault windows, not run around a [BAD WORD] car for 2 rounds before the killer finally manages to catch up because the devs dont want to fix our hitboxes.
You sound like a bad killer if you just can't accept your own mistakes. If you can't catch a survivor running around a car, I don't know what to tell you? LOL
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
Uh, Giche...I'm not sure if you're aware, but the vast majority of killers on forums don't want to put the effort in either. Instead of learning to chase better, they blame the game. I understand what you mean, but it works both ways
Chase better...because survivors don't have third person camera so that mistakes are their own and only their own most of the time. Autohaven wreckers with it's unmindgameable pallets comes to mind.
I mean cutting the loop better than the survivor, mind gaming, don't respect pallets etc. In most games, you're supposed to capitalize on the mistakes of your opponent. There are tiles/maps where this is more difficult, so you just gotta close the gap and not mess up.
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@Giche said:
@Chi said:
I have decided to ignore you. No offence, but from your forum posts you seem like an unreasonable killer main, that doesn't really care about fair play to survivors. Which is okay you know, but I am not engaging in a discussion with you.
You remind me of the ridiculous peoples who defended Infinite loops back then.
" Survivors need some places on the maps where they feel safe, it's too stressfull ! :'o "
" What else are we supposed to to do ? Run in a straigth line ? >:o "
(Familliar huh ?
)Which led me to the conclusion that the vast majority of you all don't want to do a bit of efforts and will happilly spam every cheesy and unfair game mechanic as much as you can.
Like pallet looping, trying to make look this CHEESY, TROLLISH, EXPLOITIVE and BORING "mechanic" as legit.
LUL except toxic bully, who really thought that this game resolved around running in circle 90% of the time ?
I already know the answer, but peoples will easily figure.
Uh, Giche...I'm not sure if you're aware, but the vast majority of killers on forums don't want to put the effort in either. Instead of learning to chase better, they blame the game. I understand what you mean, but it works both ways
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@Chi said:
@Orion said:
@Chi said:
@Chi said:
DS is OP, and this comes from someone mainly playing survivor. One DS can literally stand in the way of a killer winning the game or losing.NOED is the same. A killer can go from a definite 0k to a 4k.
Both perks suck in my opinion. You can't counter both of them effectively. You can't just open an exit gate and leave most of the time with NOED, you can also not just 'deal' with the stun from DS a lot of times, without it ruining your game.
NOED can be broken before it even gets activated so I don't have a clue how you would not call that a counter, most survivors know the totem placements and it's not like they're hidden.
How many killers actually run NOED? How is it fair that survivors have to prepare for a perk every single game, regardless of whether the killer is using it or not?
Because Survivors are the weaker role. They should have to adapt to the Killers' loadout; not the other way around.
I have decided to ignore you. No offence, but from your forum posts you seem like an unreasonable killer main, that doesn't really care about fair play to survivors. Which is okay you know, but I am not engaging in a discussion with you.
Awww you guys are the same!! If someone disagrees just ignore it and imagine yourself to be the better person :'D
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@Orion said:
@only1biggs said:
@Orion said:
Seeing people fail to understand what a 50% speed reduction means regarding time spent performing an activity is amusing to me as a physicist.Can you explain it to them please? No joke.
I usually ignore your comments, but I'll make an exception this time, because this is equal parts amusing and irritating.
Simply put, if you are moving at half the speed as someone else (50%), it takes you twice as long to get from A to B.
Let me give you an example. If I'm moving at 100 km/h and I need to travel 100 km, it will take me 1 hour. If you are moving at 50 km/h (50% of my speed), it will take you 1 hour to move 50 km, and thus 2 hours to move 100 km.
Congratulations on being an adult :'D
Another question for my benefit this time...
If as a killer, I find a survivor within the first 20 seconds of a match, then I down them in another 20 seconds, then hook them in the basement, how long will I have to sit in a corner and watch them until I realize I am trash at the game and should stop suggesting things on forums like inbuilt bloodlust on all M1 killers?
The moment you get any clue about game design, but I don't think that will ever happen.
I've never pretended to, babe. Sshh sshh sshh x
Like most casuals you don't have a clue about game design it's not new. The devs showed that too, they mostly care about profit. Spend playing half of your life games then come back, thx.
It's okay, I know you must be embarrassed ...sssshhhh don't worry xx
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@Orion said:
@only1biggs said:
@Orion said:
Seeing people fail to understand what a 50% speed reduction means regarding time spent performing an activity is amusing to me as a physicist.Can you explain it to them please? No joke.
I usually ignore your comments, but I'll make an exception this time, because this is equal parts amusing and irritating.
Simply put, if you are moving at half the speed as someone else (50%), it takes you twice as long to get from A to B.
Let me give you an example. If I'm moving at 100 km/h and I need to travel 100 km, it will take me 1 hour. If you are moving at 50 km/h (50% of my speed), it will take you 1 hour to move 50 km, and thus 2 hours to move 100 km.
Congratulations on being an adult :'D
Another question for my benefit this time...
If as a killer, I find a survivor within the first 20 seconds of a match, then I down them in another 20 seconds, then hook them in the basement, how long will I have to sit in a corner and watch them until I realize I am trash at the game and should stop suggesting things on forums like inbuilt bloodlust on all M1 killers?
The moment you get any clue about game design, but I don't think that will ever happen.
I've never pretended to, babe. Sshh sshh sshh x
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Selfcare could take 32secs to finish and it'd still be OP. I don't know how ppl even try to argue with simple math like that. No perk in the game is as powerful as SC. And the killer will sometimes let a survivor go so don't give me the killers should be punished for that crap.I hate being forced to tunnel because healing my hits takes less time than a chase on not-nurse killers.
It's not OP. Perhaps you're just not a good killer? I mean... you thought posting a pic of you 4k'ing with a 3 blink Nurse was noteworthy. Which of course, it isn't.
As people with brains here have already stated, survivors off gens is a good thing for the killer.
People with brains
People who fail at basic math and gamedesign
Pick one
Also it's pretty impressive considering I was perkless (don't give me that crap about thana being sleepergood), I don't have sound and I never play nurse as evident by that level 45, she's not hard but having literally 0 muscle memory on her makes her hard, esp when you don't hear ######### and therefore can't track people.
Dude, it was not impressive. It was Nurse. Get a grip.
Oh and... get a headset.
The nurse is still a killer that cannot be properly played without training, I got less than maybe 5 hours on her so yes it's impressive lol, I play her for the dailys and often remove them.
And you said I never 4k to which I proved you wrong. I 4k even on ######### like freddy but that's more survivors being trash tbh.No I won't get a headset for this non-competitive game.
Oh my god dude, you can't be this stupid. Seriously. I didn't say you couldn't 4k. I mocked you by imitating what you did and used an assuming, broad, nonsensical statement. Here's the interaction again as you seem to have missed it, intentionally ignored it, or just can't read:
You: "Why oh why can I tell that you're not stuck at red ranks like most of us killers who actually play optimal"
Me: "Why oh why can I tell that you're a bad killer who never 4k's and hard camps and can't play around DS lol"Do you see now?
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@Orion said:
@only1biggs said:
@Orion said:
Seeing people fail to understand what a 50% speed reduction means regarding time spent performing an activity is amusing to me as a physicist.Can you explain it to them please? No joke.
I usually ignore your comments, but I'll make an exception this time, because this is equal parts amusing and irritating.
Simply put, if you are moving at half the speed as someone else (50%), it takes you twice as long to get from A to B.
Let me give you an example. If I'm moving at 100 km/h and I need to travel 100 km, it will take me 1 hour. If you are moving at 50 km/h (50% of my speed), it will take you 1 hour to move 50 km, and thus 2 hours to move 100 km.
Congratulations on being an adult :'D
Another question for my benefit this time...
If as a killer, I find a survivor within the first 20 seconds of a match, then I down them in another 20 seconds, then hook them in the basement, how long will I have to sit in a corner and watch them until I realize I am trash at the game and should stop suggesting things on forums like inbuilt bloodlust on all M1 killers?
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@Orion said:
Seeing people fail to understand what a 50% speed reduction means regarding time spent performing an activity is amusing to me as a physicist.Can you explain it to them please? No joke.
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@powerbats said:
Ok it's obvious that they could take SC out and you lot would still complain about something else being op next. Then it'll be that medkits are op because then the person can just add extra charges onto a high tier medkit. You'll see more Streetwise perk usage then because hey it adds even more bang for the buck then Streetwise will be op.It's pointless because you'll just find something new to complain about when the real issue isn't the item but your abilities as a killer and not maximizing them. When people can 4k as rank 1 Freddies going full perkless, or Bubba's can 4k it's not because the survivors are potatoes either.
It's because those people playing those killers know their strengths and weaknesses and can maximize them, it's because they know maps and how to play properly. It's because someone like @marth88gaming can take a full perkless killer everyone says is trash and destroy people.
Agreed.
Not sure why you bought up marth though, but I get your point.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Selfcare could take 32secs to finish and it'd still be OP. I don't know how ppl even try to argue with simple math like that. No perk in the game is as powerful as SC. And the killer will sometimes let a survivor go so don't give me the killers should be punished for that crap.I hate being forced to tunnel because healing my hits takes less time than a chase on not-nurse killers.
It's not OP. Perhaps you're just not a good killer? I mean... you thought posting a pic of you 4k'ing with a 3 blink Nurse was noteworthy. Which of course, it isn't.
As people with brains here have already stated, survivors off gens is a good thing for the killer.
People with brains
People who fail at basic math and gamedesign
Pick one
Also it's pretty impressive considering I was perkless (don't give me that crap about thana being sleepergood), I don't have sound and I never play nurse as evident by that level 45, she's not hard but having literally 0 muscle memory on her makes her hard, esp when you don't hear ######### and therefore can't track people.
Dude, it was not impressive. It was Nurse. Get a grip.
Oh and... get a headset.
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@MhhBurgers said:
Selfcare could take 32secs to finish and it'd still be OP. I don't know how ppl even try to argue with simple math like that. No perk in the game is as powerful as SC. And the killer will sometimes let a survivor go so don't give me the killers should be punished for that crap.I hate being forced to tunnel because healing my hits takes less time than a chase on not-nurse killers.
It's not OP. Perhaps you're just not a good killer? I mean... you thought posting a pic of you 4k'ing with a 3 blink Nurse was noteworthy. Which of course, it isn't.
As people with brains here have already stated, survivors off gens is a good thing for the killer.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Mc_Harty said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Finally, someone else who can do basic maths and actually explain it
Btw I edited the text to explain it better.
But still, Self Care doesn't double the time it takes to heal.
Oh I never said it did, this guy used the example that two survivors self caring next to each other takes the same amount of time it takes for two survivors to heal each other, trying to point out how powerful self care is.
I just went with his example but with the correct, adjusted numbers.
@Wolf74 Your response?
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I'd have preferred that actually written out. Give it that personal touch :'D
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
Orion said:@DarkWo1f997 said:
The Xbox one’s hardware is next to impossible to hack because of built in anti-cheat software and The Xbox Live service itself checking for hardware signals. I have yet to see a single hacker and I put at least 40 hours a week into gaming.
You mean like how PC games have built-in anti-cheat software? Also, you do understand that hacking is not a hardware thing, right? Lastly, all software has vulnerabilities, because programmers make mistakes. Whoever says that their software/hardware/whatever is uncrackable will probably also try to sell you a spear that can pierce any shield and a shield that can withstand any spear.
I understand that, but to allow hacking on an Xbox, you have to directly tamper with the console. You can’t just download modded saves anymore like you could on 360. It is very difficult to hack using Xbox one. I would have seen a hacker by now my account is 13 years old and the first and only time I saw a hacker was in 2013 just before the Xbox One came out.
Yeah. On PC I see many, especially around free game weekends, but on console, I haven't seen any
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@MhhBurgers said:
Can you not read yourself? DS is busted as stated by the devs they just don't know how to rework it yet, there's no point argueing FACTS.I agreed with that earlier in the thread LOL
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@Orion said:
@DarkWo1f997 said:
I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week.On console, you get both, same as on PC.
How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?
How would they cheat on console? I am genuinely curious and don't really know how they'd go about it. Obviously on PC it's easy. I mean, don't give a description on how to do it on console..but, you know..."basically speaking".
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@MhhBurgers said:
Playing a killer on Console is harder LOL, this is a trollthread right? I've seen console gameplay.Can you not read?
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs schrieb:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs schrieb:
@MhhBurgers said:
Devs themselves know and admitted that DS is broken./Thread
It's a nonsense perk, for sure. But it can be played around.
No it can't.
Enduring only lessens it's effect if the survivor hasn't been downed near a loop/pallet.
You can drop people off ledges so that their landing animation buys you maybe 1 sec.
Dribbling if the DS user is stupid enough to go down close to a hook.
2 of these depend on a survivor, gratz
It can't? You listed two ways yourself lol
It's you that decides where the survivor goes down, not them.
Dropping off ledges with Enduring means you're right back on them. That's an outplay.
You can also slug the obsession.
Whatever, if you can't do it you can't do it. But it can be outplayed
Oh wait I forgot that I somehow move the survivors when playing killer through my Joystick instead of moving my killer.
The only ledge that actually counters the DS is the one at killer shack, if you played killer regularly at r1 you'd know how rare this happens.
LoL @ Calling slugging a counter to DS. Why oh why can I tell that you're not stuck at red ranks like most of us killers who actually play optimal. Yeah sure the game isn't mean to be played that way but...I don't care I'm still doing it.
What?
I am rank 1. Consistently.
Why oh why can I tell that you're a bad killer who never 4k's and hard camps and can't play around DS lol
You see how stupid that last sentence was? Yeah?
k m8
It's from the match I did in between writing btw on a basically perkless nurse tho admittedly I used 3 blinks and the one that makes my blinks longer but less accurate.
Also nobody cares if ur rank1 on console, the disparities between PCspecs and gear alone makes it alot harder to play on PC.
For example I have a wireless mouse which gives me free movement and makes 360ing me much harder than your average pleb, on the other hand I have no headset which means I neither hear groans nor breathing.
That's a yikes from me LOL
I never bought up rank.
3 blink Nurse.
I play on all platforms.
Playing killer on console is harder.What was the point of your post?
Did you not understand my last post, mocking your broad nonsensical assumption with one of my own?
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs schrieb:
@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs schrieb:
@MhhBurgers said:
Devs themselves know and admitted that DS is broken./Thread
It's a nonsense perk, for sure. But it can be played around.
No it can't.
Enduring only lessens it's effect if the survivor hasn't been downed near a loop/pallet.
You can drop people off ledges so that their landing animation buys you maybe 1 sec.
Dribbling if the DS user is stupid enough to go down close to a hook.
2 of these depend on a survivor, gratz
It can't? You listed two ways yourself lol
It's you that decides where the survivor goes down, not them.
Dropping off ledges with Enduring means you're right back on them. That's an outplay.
You can also slug the obsession.
Whatever, if you can't do it you can't do it. But it can be outplayed
Oh wait I forgot that I somehow move the survivors when playing killer through my Joystick instead of moving my killer.
The only ledge that actually counters the DS is the one at killer shack, if you played killer regularly at r1 you'd know how rare this happens.
LoL @ Calling slugging a counter to DS. Why oh why can I tell that you're not stuck at red ranks like most of us killers who actually play optimal. Yeah sure the game isn't mean to be played that way but...I don't care I'm still doing it.
What?
I am rank 1. Consistently.
Why oh why can I tell that you're a bad killer who never 4k's and hard camps and can't play around DS lol
You see how stupid that last sentence was? Yeah?
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
"Grow Up" Says the one who insults everyone.. I cannot take you seriously and insulting people only shows you have issues that you need to attend to.. why should I listen to the one who called me a "fvcking idiot" the other day because I disagreed with what you said? Me and my friend were saying that sometimes camping is the most optimal play (which it is any killer with actual time in this game should know that) and you insulted both of us for it.. so it is you who needs to grow up.. so what you didn't insult me this time am I supposed to just ignore all the other times you have insulted people? No I won't just ignore it..
Grow up.. that's something you should be telling yourself on these forums.. now quit trying to act smart here you're making us both look like fools and I don't feel like getting banned.. you may of not insulted me on this thread but it doesn't mean you haven't insulted others on different threads..
This thread is a different thread. Why are you talking about what was said in another thread in this thread? Grow up and stop being so butt hurt about another topic.
Stop replying to me if you don't want to get banned. Like you said you would.
I haven't insulted you in this thread. If you are trying to provoke me, keep going.
You are making yourself look a fool, I have no hand in that. Just stop.
lol ok kid you keep thinking that.. it doesn't matter what thread it is people don't like being insulted for no reason.. which reminds me.. how did you like it you "fvcking idiot" lol..
How did I like what, sweetie?
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@WhateverIGuess said:
I think that at this point everyone knows that more than 1 DS is awful, you can play around it, but it's just overall frusturating and unfun. Though, I think that most people who play with it are the ones who are just sick of getting camped and tunneled.Agreed.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@only1biggs schrieb:
@MhhBurgers said:
Devs themselves know and admitted that DS is broken./Thread
It's a nonsense perk, for sure. But it can be played around.
No it can't.
Enduring only lessens it's effect if the survivor hasn't been downed near a loop/pallet.
You can drop people off ledges so that their landing animation buys you maybe 1 sec.
Dribbling if the DS user is stupid enough to go down close to a hook.
2 of these depend on a survivor, gratz
It can't? You listed two ways yourself lol
It's you that decides where the survivor goes down, not them.
Dropping off ledges with Enduring means you're right back on them. That's an outplay.
You can also slug the obsession.
Whatever, if you can't do it you can't do it. But it can be outplayed
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
"Grow Up" Says the one who insults everyone.. I cannot take you seriously and insulting people only shows you have issues that you need to attend to.. why should I listen to the one who called me a "fvcking idiot" the other day because I disagreed with what you said? Me and my friend were saying that sometimes camping is the most optimal play (which it is any killer with actual time in this game should know that) and you insulted both of us for it.. so it is you who needs to grow up.. so what you didn't insult me this time am I supposed to just ignore all the other times you have insulted people? No I won't just ignore it..
Grow up.. that's something you should be telling yourself on these forums.. now quit trying to act smart here you're making us both look like fools and I don't feel like getting banned.. you may of not insulted me on this thread but it doesn't mean you haven't insulted others on different threads..
This thread is a different thread. Why are you talking about what was said in another thread in this thread? Grow up and stop being so butt hurt about another topic.
Stop replying to me if you don't want to get banned. Like you said you would.
I haven't insulted you in this thread. If you are trying to provoke me, keep going.
You are making yourself look a fool, I have no hand in that. Just stop.
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@MhhBurgers said:
Devs themselves know and admitted that DS is broken./Thread
It's a nonsense perk, for sure. But it can be played around.
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: only1biggs said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: kandalph said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: Either this is a troll thread, you're a new player or you've just joined the group you mentioned in the title.. as in "babies complaining about everything" being rank 3 doesn't mean much anymore thanks to the Emblem system. Try going against a fully optimised rank 1 SWF group and then try saying people complain for no reason. As for looping breaking a pallet does not solve the problem and sometimes you can't outsmart the survivors if the loop is too big.
DS is mostly broken in SWF groups as they will body block each other to make sure it goes off. NOED isn't even op at all at the highest level.. the moment you kill 1 member of their SWF group they'll start destroying all the totems because their friend told them you have NOED. SC: I couldn't care less about when people run this perk. Slows them down alot more. Especially when the killer has an anti-healing build. And after next patch it'll be even worse.
I'll end this by saying people are allowed to say their opinions on things but complaining about opinions makes you no better then them. i just declared my rank so half of the comments wouldn't blame all i say on low rank and if you happen to have a SWF blocking you, then you know: drop the one you carry and smack em all back to the fireplace in the menu and 4swf is pretty rare you know and with the NOED and SC i agree (btw the survivor who gets downed doesn't have to say its noed cause' you get a notification and a lil sign when someone gets hit by it) and for looping, if the loop is too big to mind game, you will just catch up to the survivor
I literally mentioned in my response that you said you were rank 3 and that it means next to nothing anymore. And your point about NOED is wrong as if you kill a survivor before all gens are done they will break all totems to stop it activating at all.. and even if you just drop the survivor you're carrying you still lose that hook and DS will now be usable as dropping them fills the wiggle bar.. lastly 4 man SWF isn't rare at rank 1.. I would know that I've been at rank 1 for awhile now. Did you just use your personal experience as the norm for everyone else? "It's not rare for me, therefore it happens to everyone." That's a facepalm. There are stats out there... 4 man swf's are rare. No I don't just use my personal experiences SWF's are not as rare at rank 1 as they are at other ranks. You should know that if you're actually a rank one and play there consistently. And 3 man SWF's can be just as bad sometimes though often killing the weak link of the group first has let me get the upper hand against SWF'S as they are generally stupid and throw themselves at hooks to save their friend.
If I were talking from just my experience I would of said that the SWF's I face always have a weakness so easily exploited. However this isn't true for every group. I do know that you are wrong and that I play at rank 1 consistently :) As I said, there are statistics. You're not wrong about most swf's groups being dumb however. But the same can be said for killers. You should know that...
Now I see what's going on here... you're yet again just trying to insult people who have a good point. Why because you don't like it? Well I only said SWF is "Less Rare" at rank 1.. It's not me who is being the dumb one here if I can exploit the weaknesses of SWF groups so easily.. but only a fool wouldn't see that DS is a problem in the situations I mentioned so what you post a screenshot about killing 4 survivors using it? Yeah I can tell by the points that the match was slow and you had to chase for awhile.. I too have killed groups using 4 DS.. It's nothing to show off about though it just makes the match more difficult then it should be.. it should be killer perks causing increased difficulty for the survivors not vise versa.. the power role should be the one in control not the numerous role..
You keep doing this. Insulting me in a passive aggressive manner (you should know this if you played at rank 1 consistently, implying I'm not and that I don't know what I'm talking about), then state that I am the one insulting you because I don't agree with your points? What? The point you made that was incorrect is backed up with stats. I then mentioned the other point you made insulting the majority of the playerbase and I agreed. What are you talking about!!?? For real. Are you okay?
And here we see you playing the victim again because I'm the one who's right.. you were constantly insulting people before and I remember you from the other day.. I don't forgive that easily and I cannot take you seriously after you repeatedly spouted random insults because I had a different opinion to you..
LOL YOU'RE NOT RIGHT! Oh my god shm
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: only1biggs said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: kandalph said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: Either this is a troll thread, you're a new player or you've just joined the group you mentioned in the title.. as in "babies complaining about everything" being rank 3 doesn't mean much anymore thanks to the Emblem system. Try going against a fully optimised rank 1 SWF group and then try saying people complain for no reason. As for looping breaking a pallet does not solve the problem and sometimes you can't outsmart the survivors if the loop is too big.
DS is mostly broken in SWF groups as they will body block each other to make sure it goes off. NOED isn't even op at all at the highest level.. the moment you kill 1 member of their SWF group they'll start destroying all the totems because their friend told them you have NOED. SC: I couldn't care less about when people run this perk. Slows them down alot more. Especially when the killer has an anti-healing build. And after next patch it'll be even worse.
I'll end this by saying people are allowed to say their opinions on things but complaining about opinions makes you no better then them. i just declared my rank so half of the comments wouldn't blame all i say on low rank and if you happen to have a SWF blocking you, then you know: drop the one you carry and smack em all back to the fireplace in the menu and 4swf is pretty rare you know and with the NOED and SC i agree (btw the survivor who gets downed doesn't have to say its noed cause' you get a notification and a lil sign when someone gets hit by it) and for looping, if the loop is too big to mind game, you will just catch up to the survivor
I literally mentioned in my response that you said you were rank 3 and that it means next to nothing anymore. And your point about NOED is wrong as if you kill a survivor before all gens are done they will break all totems to stop it activating at all.. and even if you just drop the survivor you're carrying you still lose that hook and DS will now be usable as dropping them fills the wiggle bar.. lastly 4 man SWF isn't rare at rank 1.. I would know that I've been at rank 1 for awhile now. Did you just use your personal experience as the norm for everyone else? "It's not rare for me, therefore it happens to everyone." That's a facepalm. There are stats out there... 4 man swf's are rare. No I don't just use my personal experiences SWF's are not as rare at rank 1 as they are at other ranks. You should know that if you're actually a rank one and play there consistently. And 3 man SWF's can be just as bad sometimes though often killing the weak link of the group first has let me get the upper hand against SWF'S as they are generally stupid and throw themselves at hooks to save their friend.
If I were talking from just my experience I would of said that the SWF's I face always have a weakness so easily exploited. However this isn't true for every group. I do know that you are wrong and that I play at rank 1 consistently :) As I said, there are statistics. You're not wrong about most swf's groups being dumb however. But the same can be said for killers. You should know that...
Now I see what's going on here... you're yet again just trying to insult people who have a good point. Why because you don't like it? Well I only said SWF is "Less Rare" at rank 1.. It's not me who is being the dumb one here if I can exploit the weaknesses of SWF groups so easily.. but only a fool wouldn't see that DS is a problem in the situations I mentioned so what you post a screenshot about killing 4 survivors using it? Yeah I can tell by the points that the match was slow and you had to chase for awhile.. I too have killed groups using 4 DS.. It's nothing to show off about though it just makes the match more difficult then it should be.. it should be killer perks causing increased difficulty for the survivors not vise versa.. the power role should be the one in control not the numerous role..
You keep doing this. Insulting me in a passive aggressive manner (you should know this if you played at rank 1 consistently, implying I'm not and that I don't know what I'm talking about), then state that I am the one insulting you because I don't agree with your points? What? The point you made that was incorrect is backed up with stats. I then mentioned the other point you made insulting the majority of the playerbase and I agreed. What are you talking about!!?? For real. Are you okay?
And here we see you playing the victim again because I'm the one who's right.. you were constantly insulting people before and I remember you from the other day.. I don't forgive that easily and I cannot take you seriously after you repeatedly spouted random insults because I had a different opinion to you..
You literally played the victim card as soon as I disagreed with you and then passive aggressively insulted me.
I didn't insult you here.
Grow up.
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@MhhBurgers said:
Also let's not forget that 4king is something that is mostly out of your grasp.If survivors [BAD WORD] up and give you a 3gen setup or are overly altruistic then yes, you will 4k.
Congratz, you just beat people by playing optimally while they were mostly out to have fun.
Okay? So what? I could also go against a set of good players and 4k. So do many others. Shocking!
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: kandalph said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: Either this is a troll thread, you're a new player or you've just joined the group you mentioned in the title.. as in "babies complaining about everything" being rank 3 doesn't mean much anymore thanks to the Emblem system. Try going against a fully optimised rank 1 SWF group and then try saying people complain for no reason. As for looping breaking a pallet does not solve the problem and sometimes you can't outsmart the survivors if the loop is too big.
DS is mostly broken in SWF groups as they will body block each other to make sure it goes off. NOED isn't even op at all at the highest level.. the moment you kill 1 member of their SWF group they'll start destroying all the totems because their friend told them you have NOED. SC: I couldn't care less about when people run this perk. Slows them down alot more. Especially when the killer has an anti-healing build. And after next patch it'll be even worse.
I'll end this by saying people are allowed to say their opinions on things but complaining about opinions makes you no better then them. i just declared my rank so half of the comments wouldn't blame all i say on low rank and if you happen to have a SWF blocking you, then you know: drop the one you carry and smack em all back to the fireplace in the menu and 4swf is pretty rare you know and with the NOED and SC i agree (btw the survivor who gets downed doesn't have to say its noed cause' you get a notification and a lil sign when someone gets hit by it) and for looping, if the loop is too big to mind game, you will just catch up to the survivor
I literally mentioned in my response that you said you were rank 3 and that it means next to nothing anymore. And your point about NOED is wrong as if you kill a survivor before all gens are done they will break all totems to stop it activating at all.. and even if you just drop the survivor you're carrying you still lose that hook and DS will now be usable as dropping them fills the wiggle bar.. lastly 4 man SWF isn't rare at rank 1.. I would know that I've been at rank 1 for awhile now. Did you just use your personal experience as the norm for everyone else? "It's not rare for me, therefore it happens to everyone." That's a facepalm. There are stats out there... 4 man swf's are rare. No I don't just use my personal experiences SWF's are not as rare at rank 1 as they are at other ranks. You should know that if you're actually a rank one and play there consistently. And 3 man SWF's can be just as bad sometimes though often killing the weak link of the group first has let me get the upper hand against SWF'S as they are generally stupid and throw themselves at hooks to save their friend.
If I were talking from just my experience I would of said that the SWF's I face always have a weakness so easily exploited. However this isn't true for every group.
I do know that you are wrong and that I play at rank 1 consistently
As I said, there are statistics.
You're not wrong about most swf's groups being dumb however. But the same can be said for killers. You should know that...
Now I see what's going on here... you're yet again just trying to insult people who have a good point. Why because you don't like it? Well I only said SWF is "Less Rare" at rank 1.. It's not me who is being the dumb one here if I can exploit the weaknesses of SWF groups so easily.. but only a fool wouldn't see that DS is a problem in the situations I mentioned so what you post a screenshot about killing 4 survivors using it? Yeah I can tell by the points that the match was slow and you had to chase for awhile.. I too have killed groups using 4 DS.. It's nothing to show off about though it just makes the match more difficult then it should be.. it should be killer perks causing increased difficulty for the survivors not vise versa.. the power role should be the one in control not the numerous role..
You keep doing this. Insulting me in a passive aggressive manner (you should know this if you played at rank 1 consistently, implying I'm not and that I don't know what I'm talking about), then state that I am the one insulting you because I don't agree with your points? What? The point you made that was incorrect is backed up with stats. I then mentioned the other point you made insulting the majority of the playerbase and I agreed. What are you talking about!!?? For real. Are you okay?
*edit - moreover, I showed the screenshot because it directly mocked what I quoted -.-
Oh, and at no point as killer do I ever feel out of control.
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
only1biggs said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
kandalph said:
@Blood_Coil_Viper said: Either this is a troll thread, you're a new player or you've just joined the group you mentioned in the title.. as in "babies complaining about everything" being rank 3 doesn't mean much anymore thanks to the Emblem system. Try going against a fully optimised rank 1 SWF group and then try saying people complain for no reason. As for looping breaking a pallet does not solve the problem and sometimes you can't outsmart the survivors if the loop is too big.
DS is mostly broken in SWF groups as they will body block each other to make sure it goes off. NOED isn't even op at all at the highest level.. the moment you kill 1 member of their SWF group they'll start destroying all the totems because their friend told them you have NOED. SC: I couldn't care less about when people run this perk. Slows them down alot more. Especially when the killer has an anti-healing build. And after next patch it'll be even worse.
I'll end this by saying people are allowed to say their opinions on things but complaining about opinions makes you no better then them. i just declared my rank so half of the comments wouldn't blame all i say on low rank and if you happen to have a SWF blocking you, then you know: drop the one you carry and smack em all back to the fireplace in the menu and 4swf is pretty rare you know and with the NOED and SC i agree (btw the survivor who gets downed doesn't have to say its noed cause' you get a notification and a lil sign when someone gets hit by it) and for looping, if the loop is too big to mind game, you will just catch up to the survivor
I literally mentioned in my response that you said you were rank 3 and that it means next to nothing anymore. And your point about NOED is wrong as if you kill a survivor before all gens are done they will break all totems to stop it activating at all.. and even if you just drop the survivor you're carrying you still lose that hook and DS will now be usable as dropping them fills the wiggle bar.. lastly 4 man SWF isn't rare at rank 1.. I would know that I've been at rank 1 for awhile now.
Did you just use your personal experience as the norm for everyone else? "It's not rare for me, therefore it happens to everyone." That's a facepalm.
There are stats out there... 4 man swf's are rare.
No I don't just use my personal experiences SWF's are not as rare at rank 1 as they are at other ranks. You should know that if you're actually a rank one and play there consistently. And 3 man SWF's can be just as bad sometimes though often killing the weak link of the group first has let me get the upper hand against SWF'S as they are generally stupid and throw themselves at hooks to save their friend.
If I were talking from just my experience I would of said that the SWF's I face always have a weakness so easily exploited. However this isn't true for every group.
I do know that you are wrong and that I play at rank 1 consistently
As I said, there are statistics.
You're not wrong about most swf's groups being dumb however. But the same can be said for killers. You should know that...
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@MhhBurgers said:
stopped reading after you said you played on PS4 lolAlso DS is not a great skillcheck it's about 100% bigger. If you can't hit that after a certain amount of time maybe go play minecraft again.
stopped reading after you said stopped reading lol
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
kandalph said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Either this is a troll thread, you're a new player or you've just joined the group you mentioned in the title.. as in "babies complaining about everything" being rank 3 doesn't mean much anymore thanks to the Emblem system. Try going against a fully optimised rank 1 SWF group and then try saying people complain for no reason. As for looping breaking a pallet does not solve the problem and sometimes you can't outsmart the survivors if the loop is too big.
DS is mostly broken in SWF groups as they will body block each other to make sure it goes off. NOED isn't even op at all at the highest level.. the moment you kill 1 member of their SWF group they'll start destroying all the totems because their friend told them you have NOED. SC: I couldn't care less about when people run this perk. Slows them down alot more. Especially when the killer has an anti-healing build. And after next patch it'll be even worse.
I'll end this by saying people are allowed to say their opinions on things but complaining about opinions makes you no better then them.
i just declared my rank so half of the comments wouldn't blame all i say on low rank
and if you happen to have a SWF blocking you, then you know: drop the one you carry and smack em all back to the fireplace in the menu and 4swf is pretty rare you know and with the NOED and SC i agree (btw the survivor who gets downed doesn't have to say its noed cause' you get a notification and a lil sign when someone gets hit by it) and for looping, if the loop is too big to mind game, you will just catch up to the survivor
I literally mentioned in my response that you said you were rank 3 and that it means next to nothing anymore. And your point about NOED is wrong as if you kill a survivor before all gens are done they will break all totems to stop it activating at all.. and even if you just drop the survivor you're carrying you still lose that hook and DS will now be usable as dropping them fills the wiggle bar.. lastly 4 man SWF isn't rare at rank 1.. I would know that I've been at rank 1 for awhile now.
Did you just use your personal experience as the norm for everyone else? "It's not rare for me, therefore it happens to everyone." That's a facepalm.
There are stats out there... 4 man swf's are rare.
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No problem at all. DS can be played around.
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@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
only1biggs said:Queen mentioned on the last stream that they have a big optimization dump coming in a few months. With the next coupe of updates they will add a few things in preparation for it specifically for console.
So stupid that they’re adding cosmetics and events and there will be a new killer/survivor before this stability update to make the game playable eventually maybe comes out lol
Different teams for different things. They don't just ignore things to pump out cosmetics.
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Queen mentioned on the last stream that they have a big optimization dump coming in a few months. With the next coupe of updates they will add a few things in preparation for it specifically for console.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Vietfox said:
Saw the tittle's thread, saw your name... Couldn't hold myself from not coming over lol.
So u faced a deranked swf group? You got what u deserved.I have no problems with deranking SWF groups. I am just talking about the general situation and if you dont believe that such thigns actually happen, check out jendenise on twitch
Oh god, what happened? Did you get crushed? Did her and her friends dare to have fun?
For real though, what happened exactly?
