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I just wanted to ask you the same boy
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804843#Comment_804843
This even isn't related to what we discussed before.
I don't even know what you mean, git gud
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the subject of this discussion is "Nurse is not top tier anymore" everyone know this is not true, so we can end this discussion here, there's nothing here to add
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804788#Comment_804788
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804788#Comment_804788
You said that she still can win against a good SWF team without perks or add-ons. And I said that you are wrong and she couldn't do that even before. I never said to not user perks or add-ons on her or on anybody else.
@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804788#Comment_804788
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804788#Comment_804788
You said that she still can win against a good SWF team without perks or add-ons. And I said that you are wrong and she couldn't do that even before. I never said to not user perks or add-ons on her or on anybody else.
if good SWF can beat her before or now this means they got more skill than nurse players, she's the power role in the game so if you can't kill with her, u shouldn't play her at all
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804749#Comment_804749
It doesn't matter how good you are on her, when new Nurse lacks map pressure without add-ons, while 1 survivor can do a gen in 80 seconds without great skill checks, perks or Toolboxes. Even if she end chases very fast, if she doesn't have stall perks, survivors will just gonna smash gens and win simple as that. And without tracking perks, she's also gonna waste time trying to look for survivors.
Even before she wouldn't won agaisnt a good SWF team without perks/add-ons, but now definitely no.
that's why perks and addon's exist you imagine playing without perks/addons and stomp everyone so how powerful you would be playing with it, she's has stuff in the game so use it
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804669#Comment_804669
No, you can't. They will just rush gens before you can do anything if you don't have stall perks.
simple u're not good enough on her
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804678#Comment_804678
i tried one blink for fun, got around two people most times
most ppl even on r1 are potato as f but I also try and play very well
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804669#Comment_804669
i played her without perks and addons for fun on r1 before, but ok
me too even on 1 blink so?
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@xllxENIGMAxllx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804533#Comment_804533
Forget it for him the nurse is dead.
typical nurse player who could only play with extra blinks or omega, pathetic, base nurse before was fine and now with addons she's better, than her base before, she's like rest killer's now, she need's addons to be more viable or still like I before said if u're master nurse lvl 9000 you can stomp SWF with no perks/addons still
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When I see a post about who is the best killer in DBD now
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804367#Comment_804367
If you do this, it's a guess. If you make the right guess, congratulations, you wasted around 10 seconds of her time. Every missed blink is around 10 seconds chase time. Even as a bad player without any looping skill at all you can use DH to make a chase 30 seconds long. Baseline. Every right guess by your side longers the chase. And constant chases one minute or longer let you loose the game.
You tell me like I don't know, I have more hours on the nurse than on the survivor lul
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@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804315#Comment_804315
i'm sorry, you don't know how to loop versus nurse. Tell me, how do you avoid getting hit by her?
stealth first, next usually doesn't work so i'm getting hit, ofc, next i try to break LOS running around big stucture like main build on swamp, trying mindgames her on stairs on swamp, haddonfield, try to run in corn, farm maps, against average nurse not even good or "god" this doesn't work so u know
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u what?
as a surivor I play with my friends all players between 2-3k hrs on gameplay and nurse without addons only with BBQ 3 destroy us with ease
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Yes, i'm also disappointed
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@Horror_Gaming said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794307#Comment_794307
Because I like playing Pig, Ghostface, and Demogorgon. And to be fair it’s not that I think spirit is strong. It’s just I feel the fact that she can body bump into survivors and being able to hear them gives survivors little counter play. And lastly while iron will is a viable option. I don’t agree that a perk that not every survivor may not have is the only way to counter a killer.
What can I say, there is a small chance that developers will do something with her
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@Horror_Gaming said:
That’s it :)
if you think she's so unfair, why don't you play her?
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@Tensor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794282#Comment_794282
Your post sounds that way.
Why wouldn't survivors use the instaheals while they have them? Duh.
Yet, Killer abused the Legion bug etc for months, but that was probably ok with you at a guess.
I bet you also complain the loudest when patches have glitches, though, you don't seem willing to wait for them to iron out the bugs....
like you said already, you bet and that's not true, not everything looks the way you think
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@Tensor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/99370/can-we-make-this-update-as-soon-as-possible
Salty killer that cant adapt their playstyle. That's what I'm getting from this post.
are you telling me that I can't cope as a killer?
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@[Deleted User] said:
I don't see the problem with insta-heals. (I don't get why they are being nerfed.)
I'm sometimes surprised a survivor isn't on the ground after getting their second hit, but beside that ...
maybe play a little bit more different killers on high rank then you understand
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@Kenshin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794224#Comment_794224
are you actually surprised mate?
yes I am surprised because on 2.0.0 they published a lot more things than now
players levels, skin shop, hatch mechanics, full chapter, one killer, one survivor, 6 perks, they r bloodweb rework, they change maps(a little bit), they added emblem system, change points system, remove pallet vacuum, and then they balanced the clown's addons, it's much more than now
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794217#Comment_794217
yes be the number 1 tryhard in the game no mercy for the survivors go full sweat mode and show these survivors what dead by daylight is about!
You speak like I should stroke their heads
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@Kenshin said:
just wait until christmas lel
3 weeks from ptb, developers broke the record, the longest in history, so far it was 17 days when they introduced 2.0.0
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794207#Comment_794207
it may not be cool to you but tryhard sweat lords are cool for me :D
for me too, but what should I answer? get in thyhard mode too? I remember time when I took about 40 red mori on a nurse, from match to match and what was the fun for me? not very
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@Mistikus said:
why you call survivors salty when they trying to use all of instaheals until it get nerfed to ground like bnp
no, things like instaheals or extra blinks were things that had to be changed from about three years ago, it's strange and incomprehensible to me is that they are doing it now
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@Lost_in_the_Fog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/794200#Comment_794200
Yes! Spread the word. Franklin's Demise is new killer meta perk until next update.
it's not that I'm not getting kills it or something, it's just ... not cool, I can also be a tryhard, bring Prayer Beads, extra blinks, mori but it's not cool for me
simple as that
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thanks mate, i didn't know that...
ofc
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off topic: survivor's just can't take it when someone is better than him, fresh ss; legacy 2 meg just dc when I down her, rly??? u have legacy, so close to 7k hrs and salty dc damn, she's no worthy to wearing this clothes
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@ScottJund said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/792374#Comment_792374
Because I value other peoples fun?
Look ladies and gentlemen, what a merciful man.
I hope someone will repay you for it someday.
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@ScottJund said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/792345#Comment_792345
Are you really that naive to think that the combined hundreds of thousands of hours of playtime the community has hasn't revealed a reliable counterplay yet? Really? The game isn't that complex. You winning against bad Spirits doesnt mean you found a counter.
So why u Scott will not play Spirit if you think she is so unfair to survivors, if she is so powerful, just play her
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She's balanced, survivor's just forgot how to play in this game, thay're worse than before
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/791886#Comment_791886
60-80 fps on PS4? Not possible. This game simply can't do it.
PC my friend
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/791858#Comment_791858
That's because this game (and many others "we happy few" comes to mind) are not optimized at all on the PS4. 60fps shouldn't be difficult on PS4 yet they have trouble getting a steady 20fps.
I currently hold 60-80 frames, I have no problem with fluency
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/99175/i-just-have-a-visual-bug-but
Textures didn't load, either your settings are too high or your computer needs an upgrade. Never looked at the settings in DbD but I do know every time I see this in other games I can generally just lower one or two things like shadows or water and it fixes. Your milage may vary.
it was just a one-time accident, I doubt it would be something serious, the textures just didn't load
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/791636#Comment_791636
Yeah that's on PC and one of the best players in the game. You ignored the "killer on console" part.
I didn't ignore, I'm just able to accept that this killer will never be as good on a console as it is on a PC, it is not real or possible to make it so that she is balanced on the console, and at the same time that there would be no OP on the PC, sorry but that's the truth
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@Carlosylu said:
XBOX, rank 1 every month towards the last 5 days before rerank. If I wanted to get there easily I used Spirit and Freddy, if not, I only use viable killers, AKA Huntress, Demo, Hag, Trapper and Billy
Interesting from what I see on the console is a much greater variety of killers than on the PC
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@Mtom912 said:
I play any killer I feel like playing at rank 1, i normally main spirit, but I had a point where I just played legion for a while and I did fine each game, and even did adept legion first try
Balance wise I think it’s normally fine, but bringing in certain things ruins the balance, typically to the killer side such as ebonys, or iri heads, or prayer beads etc, or for survivors something like 4 pre nerf syringes, although I don’t think of that as bad, since you can still get plenty of bloodpoints as killer against that, I think there is RNG problems though such as ruin spawns, or barely any pallets, or too many pallets. I also think the constant moaning of survivors op, or gen speed broken is just moaning from people who can’t face the fact they aren’t as good as they think they are, or blaming gen speed when they consistently mess up in chases and can’t keep map pressure, or they use that for why they lose when they actually lost because ruin was gone in 5 seconds because of rng, not gen speed, or they’re playing a low tier killer, with bad perks and/or add ons. I think swf complaints are over exaggerated as well, yes it’s stronger than solos, but some people make it out like it’s impossible to beat swf
this is probably one of the most reasonable posts in this forum, I agree with all
things like the ones you really mention ... the developers have to understand that it destroys the game for the other side and there is nothing cool about it even playing it, at least for me, because there is no challenge
however, I still think that most killers don't have the tools to apply pressure, so I'm able to understand their complaints
I really like playing against swf, then the games are the most interesting
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@Boss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/790117#Comment_790117
I simply don't find any Killer as fun as him.
Spirit's my back-up though, she's quite similar.
About Wraith I love his silent bell addon, it's one of the most fun build in the game imo
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789574#Comment_789574
Update on this: I think I'm going to take a long extended break from this game. Killer on console is the most stress-inducing nightmare. I've put up with it for 2 years but Christ...it never changes. The nurse base kit change especially is a slap in the face. Is it that hard to increase the sensitivity and/or make the camera more responsive? Is it that hard to get rid of the idea of FoV perks and just make the default FoV M&A 3 tier?
The event can be damned, it's just a bloodpoint event anyway. The rift can be damned. The archives can wait.
GLHF all. Time to go find my own Civ 5. Again...Christ.
yes I just saw how zubat played the first match with a new nurse on Yamaoka one of the heaviest maps for her, on the first rank, no addons, no perks for slowing down the game or endgame and had 3 kills, as usual, people are exaggerating
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/790127#Comment_790127
"Re: balance, I think we as a community make a mistake of assuming they have a similar balance goal that we do.
Yeah that is what I was referring to. They are aiming for an entirely different "balance" goal that is generally around rank 10 play.
"I don't think they've ever acknowledged people's frustrations with the lack of diversity and general high rank experience. I could be wrong though."
You're not wrong. In all these years and complaints they have not. They want to focus on the larger population at lower ranks for their balance decisions. Red ranks are kinda just left to hang.
I think that if on both sides of the barricade there is an opportunity to be able to defeat someone who is on the other side with their own skills, then the game is balanced, the key words-"game needs to be interactive"
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/790035#Comment_790035
Re: balance, I think we as a community make a mistake of assuming they have a similar balance goal that we do. I don't think they've ever acknowledged people's frustrations with the lack of diversity and general high rank experience. I could be wrong though.
there is something in it, Freddy who was so weak before his nerf in high rank, was op for new player bc they don't understand his mechanics, in the second case, we have the original nurse( you know 102ms, 3 blink, myers t3 lunge after blink ect) , where people said she was weak xDDD bc everyone was new on her and she needs a little bit practice, so yea I agree
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@Boss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/98977/how-many-killers-have-rank-1
- Wraith
- Entertaining
- The best it's ever been, still needs work, needs more work every big chapter.
yes, in current form about balance game is the best form in history, but still is so many issue to do
Wraith? you have my respect man
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@PGJSF said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789881#Comment_789881
Yes I am. I always have been survivor sided on the Spirit topic because I clearly see the difference in how easier it is to track and hit survivor when I play her. And, unlike Nurse, I never had to do any practice. See the survivor, use phasewalk, guess 50/50, profit.
that's kinda true, like Bricky said its imo 70/30 for spirit bc of her tracking, not only guessing but imo more reading
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@Mew said:
rank 1 usually (depends on how much i play in a season)
usually play hag, legion, demo, pig, wraith, or spirit.
also i think the game has been the most balanced its ever been in a while, though not straight 50/50. Id say its at least 60/40 in the survivors favor, but meh, thats fine.
my opinion is not that the game is like killer side or survivor side, just there a very few killer who can deal with survivors at the highest level play
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@Blueberry said:
Both sides at rank 1.
Game is heavily survivor sided. Maps and perks are designed for low rank survivor skill which leads to high ranks being able to heavily abuse them when they know what they're doing.
I like Spirit personally. There are only a few killers that have any say over how the game goes if the survivors are good and not screwing around. 75% of the killer roster is extremely weak at high levels of play and even that's being generous.
The game is in a much, much better state than it used to be but it still isn't in a good one.
I actually r1 killer and r9 survivor
game is survivor sided? why I prefer playing killer idk
as for the maps, I agree
my favourite killers are Spirit too and Nurse, with Nurse I have a lot experience but with Spirit i started (around 100hrs) but I still manage to get r1 on her, she's not hard I think
but you have right most killer doesn't have tools to stop survivors
agree game is a lot better than before but still, devs need to put in it a lot of work to be perfect
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/789864#Comment_789864
Its been quite a ride. The key is to run Spirit Fury and Enduring, plus PGTW and Ruin. Never use your power.
that is, you are even better, if you put in a killer with no power with 115 ms, you would do it still (I wonder if killer like this will ever come out lmao)
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@Volfawott said:
Amanda and Legion interchangeably. Also Demi Logorgon however not as frequent as the other two.
For the most part I essentially play the game to have fun. I don't have many issues outside of a couple of balancing ones. However the toxicity of the community is not something I'm fond of.
Rampant disconnects for no reason
The string of toxic messages not talking about in game bm or cheeky trolling that's fine in my book. it's when you actively message people insulting things that you can start making things a problem
As for balancing the games a lot better than what it used to be. Well I think that some perks add-ons and baseline powers still need to be looked over.
Because a lot of perks and addons on both the killer and the survivors side are basically useless.
They really needs to be some baseline power changes. Because there's a massive problem when some killer powers are actively more detrimental to use then just regular m1 gameplay case in point Legion
I think Pig have really hard time to play on high rank
and who likes toxicity in this game lmao
it's true developers seem to have the impression that they don't know much about their game
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@PGJSF said:
Legion, and to a lesser degree Trapper. Sometimes Freddy or Leatherface when I need a change, and Spirit when I’m tired of competing and I want easy games. I’m gonna stop right there.
so you are killer main and you say that playing Spirit is easy games and she is such a character to win without skill? interesting, I mean there is no killer main who will tell you something like that
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@[Deleted User] said:
I play whoever I feel like, but killer balance is pretty awful.
The game is fun most of the time, but it feels like a complete waste of time about 30% of the time. I play both sides at red ranks. I firmly believe survivors are the power role and dictate the pace of the game if they truly know how to play. The game and maps are designed around low level survivor play, which leads to an overabundance of safe loops for skilled survivors relative to gen speed.
so playing a killer (even a powerful one) is very stressful even if we have the power to stop the survivors, every mistake against a good swf ends in a tragedy, it requires a lot of focus, skill and patience to achieve it.
true, the game is adapted to safe places for survivors at low ranks, where at high in these places survivors can buther the majority of killers
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@Endstille said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/98977/how-many-killers-have-rank-1
Basicly all killers minus trapper/wraith/doctor/huntress/legion/pig/spirit.
I hope they start making meaningfull changes to the game because it has many core design issues and those seem like not a high priority.
Problem with balance is that the meta is so strong that I feel like either you go meta or you prepare to lose bigtime, not that it isn't possible to win without the meta killers/perks but you basicly have to play in a certain way so that game doesn't end way too fast. This not something that killers/survivors are to blame about but it has to do with the design.
I don't play killer as much as survivor.
true, so the variety in the game is virtually negligible
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@Andreyu44 said:
Legion,
because they are super fun to play as uwu
(except when you go against 4 men SWF ofc :3)
currently I like to play against 4 man swf the most, games are the most interesting then