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This is actually a really good question.
Scourge Hook: Monstrous Shrine
Long have we waited. Monstrous Shrine has received a rework. This perk will now convert all basement hooks to Scourge Hooks. Additionally, Scourge Hooks will now grant 10/15/20% faster Entity progression – but only if the Killer is not within 24 meters.
It seems like it would be only the basement hooks. My guess (pulling out of my ahem) is that you will have to bring another scourge hook perk, but I could be wrong.
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@Tatt3dWon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3016652#Comment_3016652
Look ive played this and other games long enough to read a meta when I see one. I see where the devs are going they dont want killers to only get 1 k matches they've literally said it in the update post. They want a hide and seek gen game not a loop the killer till the exit gates open game.
Yes. That's exactly it. They want killers to get more than 1k per match. And they're adjusting for exactly that.
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@Tatt3dWon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3016627#Comment_3016627
Its stale but at least there is chasing it is going to be nothing but gens flying and killers camping 1 or 2 people to get the kills going to be a very fun game camping has gotten a huge buff.
Not really, no. You haven't played yet with the changes to see how they are, so I'm not sure you're in a position to say what it definitely will and won't do. In fact, IMO, the killer buffs didn't go far enough, but I'm also reserving judgement to see how it is.
@EvilJoshy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3016624#Comment_3016624
This sounds an awful lot like when a new killer is teased and before he even hits the beta, there's threads of people saying "New killer OP!"
Cuz it is. They haven't even played yet and they're already crying. LOL And the funniest part to me, is killers were not killing enough anyway, per them, so even IF it is more killer sided, it was needed. LOL
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@Tatt3dWon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3016437#Comment_3016437
Would you rather run from a killer or sit there and hold a button for 90 seconds? Killer is going to also get boring since it wont take anything to down survivors.
Both things are stale. There needs to be something new altogether.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3013303#Comment_3013303
No multiplayer games I've ever played do a casual mode with MMR for matchmaking. That makes no rational sense and defeats the entire point of casual. Casual is for the fastest queue time possible and to just get into a match, not to coddle feelings by hiding information. Even from a concept point that just sounds silly.
Overwatch's quickplay absolutely takes into account your skill. Almost all games that have quickplay functions will absolutely put you in some bracket because even in QP they don't want to pair a 5 hour person with a 2000 hour person. Most people play quickplay to get a feel of the game BEFORE going into ranked, if they didn't have a way to make sure it was mostly new (or close to "new" skill) players playing, most new people would leave because they'd be getting curbstomped every game.
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Per the devs, camping and tunneling are valid tactics, yes? And the devs have also said that the kill rate is lower than they'd like it, yes?
So of course they didn't do everything they could to mitigate those strategies.
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Every game I will at least have 1 rubber band issue. I've come to expect it.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2924245#Comment_2924245
It's possibly one of the better made stories, if not one of the best. And it's also really heartbreaking. Worth the read.
I'll see if I can go find it. I'm always up for a good tearjerker.
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@Barbarossa2020 said:
The issue with CoH is it's endless.
That's always been in the issue. It needs a set amount of charges per bones then it fizzles and can't be rekindled.
Easy, fair.
This. All of this.
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Has anyone read the times yet? How the hell does anyone know if it's half-baked or not?
Until we find out conically how he comes out, maybe we should reserve our judgement for "how" they made him gay.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923420#Comment_2923420
Jonah x David shippers reading this: 😢
/j
Yes. All of this. I want Jonah and David 2gether4ever 😭😭😭😭
I hate to admit it, but I'm legit giddy about this. Before Jonah, I mained David cuz he's hotty mchottiepants. Now I think Jonah is hotter (shirtless Jonah pls), but I'm going to play David more.
Legit, thank you BHVR. People like to make fun of us when some of us appreciate representation, but it really is a thing. I'm 43, came out when I was 14. When I played games (back in my day *shakes fist at sky*) we almost never had gay characters in games. Im not kidding when I say, being able to play someone like yourself, even if that part of you has NOTHING to do with the game, still feels good. It's the default for straight people, you just assume. So being able to go "hey, this character I'm playing is hot AND plays on my team? ######### yeah!"
Ys, it's rainbow washing, and I fully admit that. But it still feels really ######### good, all the same.
(And yes, before anyone says it, I AM A 14 year old girl trapped in an old gay man's body. I fully admit it.)
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I was gonna say just die but that's probably not really a valid solution.
Dancing is where it's at.
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
Say it withe me... This game is on 6 other platforms (or 8 if you count both Sony and Xbox's two gens the game is on) besides Steam.
This is always the excuse I hear when this gets brought up.
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It's what I do. Shrug. I don't see any other way around it. What I usually do is 8 hooks, let the 4 escape.
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You know, if survivor mains spent less time playing, the devs might listen to them. Sluzzy, you really should just stop playing to send the devs a message. Either they fix the game for survivors, or they don't get any more of your time! Stop rewarding them for being such terrible, horrible, utterly monstrous killer mains.
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I keep playing dbd because it's that game I'm comfortable with. It's like a jacket that's too thin to wear in the snow, but it's too damn comfortable to wear anything else.
Went back to overwatch but it's got a few issues that I keep running into (video memory leak) and it's annoying as #########.
I tried midnight ghost hunt, which is fun, but it doesn't have the same oomph as dbd and the people there are jerks. I'm hoping vhs will scratch this itch for me because honestly, dbd isn't really fun anymore.
I've stopped playing killer almost altogether and now I only play a couple survivor games a night. It's more of a killing time activity than a "fun" one. Unlimited heals have killed the game for me entirely. Survivor is almost too easy now and killer is unbearable with it.
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@Nathan13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2775531#Comment_2775531
Using DH for distance is what it was designed to do.
According to who?
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What's the difference between ghostface and any other killer having ruin?
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@SlothGirly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2582916#Comment_2582916
may I ask what the YA NFT thing is? And how this may end up similar? I'm curious.
I'm not sure what I am and am not allowed to link since, you know, jail, but if you Google realms of ruin nft, you'll find the news articles. 3 or 4 YA authors were trying to start an NFT that would have you purchase so you could "own" part of the story. I think it was you could buy a character and you would dictate how that characters story went. Or something like that. And the entire YA community freaked out.
From googling all the nft stuff here, now I'm getting nft articles lol
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@SlothGirly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2582904#Comment_2582904
my understanding is yes they seem to be marketing toward horror fans, however as far as I know, they've only advertised themselves to Dead By Daylights community, given the connection between them and BHVR obviously.
That's a good point. I haven't looked around at other areas. When I was doing research on this stuff I was reading the nft subreddits and no one there seemed to care much. I didn't check into any of the horror or Hellraiser subs.
I'm also starting to wonder if this is going to eventually end up like the recent YA author NFT debacle. Well, this one has lasted more than 5 hours tho. 🙄
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All of their marketing was trying to appeal to horror fans. After all, you only have a "chance" to get the Hellraiser chapter.
If it were for gamers, they wouldn't use marketing buzzwords like "in the hit game dead by daylight!" I can't imagine a horror fan gamer who doesnt know dbd. It's not exactly small. Lol
At least IMO, it hit me as a huge horror fan and the gaming stuff was tacked on. Honestly I think the only reason BHVR decided to join in was because they wanted to pimp their game to non-gamers.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
Nobody is forcing you to try to win OP. In fact a lot of survivors would prefer it if you tried to lose on purpose and run no regression or gen defense perks at all.
Just lose the game.
This. Lol
I have never understood why there isn't an auto regression after X seconds or minutes. Not right away, not like ruin, but after 1 minute, regression starts at 25% or something. Or 10. Or anything really. Anything that's going to help apply just a bit more pressure.
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@Kurri said:
What is clicking and teabagging? Lots of Survivors having raves and twerking though.
Those hooligans - I'll show them for coming onto my lawn.
I will now not be able to get the image of survivors just twerking when they tbag. I think you just made me into a full-time killer main.
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I'm a both side's-er, but I would like to throw in that, the heavier pallet maps, break the pallets ASAP. Mind you I'm not great, but the thing that I find consistently true is, if they drop all the pallets early and you've kicked em, it's really easy to get downs because they don't have anything to stop you with.
Also, stay away from TL walls. They are cancerous evil.
And from playing survivor: don't drop chase just because you think I'm a good looper because I was able to hop over the shack wall. Give yourself at least a once go-round to see if they make a mistake. If they continuously loop though, yeah, get out. The exception to this is if you need to apply pressure. Oh and if I drag you to a TL wall, go around once and then leave. TL walls are literally the spawn of Satan and Saddam Hussein. Literally.
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@Ranch_Jello said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2582478#Comment_2582478
Look I only did that bc he was camping my friend at the start of the match and after that I just wanted to keep him on me until the rest of the gens were done...
Understood. ♥️
Edit - Man I thought I've derailed some threads in my time.... That's all I'm saying! (Not at you ranch)
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This is a terrible bug, can't lie, but holy ######### after you t-bagged and then got downed, I cackled.
I'm sorry, the bug is #########, but I always laugh at karma served LOL
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@ProfoundEnding said:
You're a dirty birdy.
Oh Now Wally, Gimme A Bag Of That Effing Pig Feed
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@ElusivePukka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2579637#Comment_2579637
Fair warning, that sequence of actions could be used as evidence of stream sniping even if that's not what you're doing - being on their watch list during the match, then commenting with the same name.
Are there repercussions from stream sniping?
On topic - I dodge every TTV I see. I refuse to play. Doesn't matter the side.
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@Jasonisanicefella said:
I am so glad that all the negativity of the very small vocal minority did not hurt the game.
Dbd is close to an all time peak, thank you BHVR for many years of fun, the VAST MAJORITY still loves you <3
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/1CE1W7F54GCC/screenshot-2021-10-21-at-21-45-44.png
There was no boycott, nor do you have evidence to the contrary. This is all conjecture with no facts.
And it certainly hasn't helped the Steam score of the Hellraiser chapter which, as it sits right now is "Mostly Negative". The Hour of the Witch is "Mixed".
Hurting their score is going to hurt far worse than their player count. Those players are costing BHVR money to play. If they're not buying, BHVR is losing money.
Your point is moot at best.
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@Artick said:
Who cares? Everyone is free to do whatever they want: uninstall, reinstall, stop/start playing. To each his own.
I care, I interacted with Orion many times. He was a genuinely nice guy, even if we didn't always agree. He's smart, he contributed tons to this board (to the tune of 21K posts) and he will be missed.
Sorry BHVR let you down Orion, sir.
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I tried him on the PTB and I haven't touched him since. The animation is janky and just feels wrong. It's so slow you can't really use it for mindgaming now around loops. I've never really been a quickscope guy, but this change is so drastic to his feel. He just feels clunky and slow and not worth it.
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'Muricans pay around $100(+tax) for the same thing. I can't answer why, but my guess is, 2660RUB has different (likely less) buying power than $100 in the US. I could be wrong on that, though, it's just speculation.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2578633#Comment_2578633
As if killer didn't already have to juggle attention between 4 survivor, the progress on 7 gens, pallets/walls/hooks, and their 5 totems.
And the argument that it would make tunneling easier if the killer knew the number of hooks on each survivor is ridiculous since a true tunneler doesn't need any indicator.
Exactly! If someone is going to tunnel, they're going to tunnel. No amount of side information is going to change their tactic. I remember when they added the hook count. Their rationale makes literally no sense at all, and you'd think they'd want to put in more tools to help counter tunneling instead of less.
But the devs don't play their own game so.....
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@Dino7281 said:
Problem, I like to switch targets a lot, so I often "tunnel" by accident :D
Give me better hook counter and I will gladly get everyone on dead hook.
I am too lazy to remember it, I can't be bothered. Just, you get downed, on hook with you...
If they didn't hide who's been hooked from the killer, I could easily avoid tunneling. But I'm with you - sometimes I tunnel accidentally.
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@Firellius said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2578333#Comment_2578333
I will say that playing the game still puts value in BHVR's pockets. In a multiplayer based experience, the players are part of the product being sold. One person playing can inspire another to spend.
Enh that's kind of tangential though. By playing the game on their servers but not giving them money, you're actively costing them. Your influence on someone else spending is nebulous (though I don't think without merit).
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577826#Comment_2577826
Get ahold of yourself.
I don't need to prove anything to support my points. We've been over this already.
“The sale of T Shirts on the merc store has had a significantly larger impact on the environment than any of BHVRs involvement with NFTs.”
This is a factual statement which requires no proof. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
You've “shredded” through nothing mate. No counter arguments. No relevant citations.
Honestly you’re just making yourself angry and repeating the same nonsense about somehow proving me wrong.
Think this is where we can agree to disagree yeah?
Take a break. Have a Kit Kat (if the emissions are acceptable 😁)
"“The sale of T Shirts on the merc store has had a significantly larger impact on the environment than any of BHVRs involvement with NFTs.”
This is a factual statement which requires no proof. The proof is in the pudding as they say."
This is not a factual statement. It's a bold faced lie. If the proof is in the pudding, where's that pudding at? And you continue to lie, both to us and to yourself.
If this were true you'd be able to cite sources proving the truth of it. But you can't because it isn't true.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577740#Comment_2577740
It's strange how you see yourself as a victim here.
Take a look at the contrast between my posts and yours. Look at not only the content but also the wording.
I've essentially been making the same two points the entire time. No insults. No anger.
You’ve haven't provided a counterargument in response, but have provided much anger and several wasted insults.
Yet I'm the bad guy and you’re a victim. Right? 😂
My advice still stands. You need to work on how you react when disagreements arise. It comes across as condescending but it is genuine advice. That attitude doesn't serve you well!
Nobody has been able to provide a counterargument.
T Shirts for example. The sale of T Shirts on the merc store has had, does have and will almost certainly continue to have a significantly larger impact on the environment than any of BHVRs involvement with NFTs.
Comparing blockchain etc to the clothing industry is irrelevant, as is bringing up “carbon neutral” clothing lines.
I've defended my position with facts.
There has been no scrutiny for anything to fall apart under.
The victim? #########?
So if those t-shirts have had more of an impact... prove it. With citations. Let's see 'em.
"The t-shirts are bad! They are worse than NFTs!" "OK prove it." "NO! I SAID THEY'RE BAD SO THEY'RE BAD!" -That's you. That's how you sound. You tried to make an argument, we shredded through it. You have no point because anything you've brought up, we've had counter-arguments to, and ours included citations.
You have no point. You have no leg to stand on. You haven't had one yet. And no one here is convinced. You just sound stupid.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577652#Comment_2577652
I'm glad you're finding this entertaining.
However, perhaps you need to take a look at how you respond to diverse viewpoints and how you conduct yourself when disagreements arise.
Not lecturing or talking down to you, but you're in college and you've a potentially bright ahead of yourself, so try to seperate your mind from your emotions a little more.
Your emotions are clouding your judgement here. As a consequence you’ve misunderstood my argument on more than one occasion, and now you're apparently getting in trouble with the mods for how you're responding. That's no good.
My point though. I have thought about it, and it is solid. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's hugely important, but it's a good point nonetheless.
I think I’m one of the only people in this thread who isn't lost 😂
I'm not even sure how to respond to this. It's irrelevant at best lol
You must really love that bull semen.
No, I react the way I do because I've dealt with people like you for 40+ years now. I HAD patience for stupidity when I was younger. I've lost almost all of it as I've gotten older. You all repeat the same ######### ad nauseam like you're saying or doing something profound that no one else has said before! Except no one gives a ######### about your irrelevant points.
The only person that gives two shits about your points, or calling us hypocritical, is you. And you can't claim hypocrisy when your points can be easily disproven (like how your t-shirt crusade falls apart as soon as it's held up to any standard. And it crumbles completely when viewed against a carbon neutral company).
And the funnier thing is, with some tweaking, you could have had a giant point! I mean giant! And you could have gotten people to ake you seriously! But you didn't think it through and ran with a terrible analogy that falls apart under scrutiny.
If you can't actually defend your position with facts, then you don't have a position worth listening to.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577639#Comment_2577639
"I on the other hand don't need to cite any sources."
"you think I'm “running my mouth” for bringing the numbers to light."
How are you gonna give us "the numbers" if you don't have any sources?
I will give one thing to you, you're entertaining.
He is. I'm cutting right on that fine line of getting banned for his hilariousness too.
The funny thing is, if he sat back and thought about what he was saying, he COULD have a hugely important point. But he's so lost in his own ######### he can't see above it. Lol
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577537#Comment_2577537
The numbers you posted are irrelevant, though I'll give you credit for at least posting them.
I on the other hand don't need to cite any sources. My argument is very straightforward. Demanding that someone “cites their sources” when their argument requires no such thing is a weak attempt to discredit them when you've no counterargument to offer.
I don't need to pretend anything. I made this post for a few reasons, but in part it was to expose hypocrisy and it has done that remarkably well.
You’re in college for Sustainability and Environmental Studies, yet you admit that you don't care about the environmental impact of BHVRs merc store, flippantly dismissing it, and that you think I'm “running my mouth” for bringing the numbers to light. I wonder how that attitude will serve you in your future endeavours.
Your anger is wasted and there's really not much else for us to say. All the best.
If the environmental impact is neutral then you don't have a point.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577417#Comment_2577417
That doesn't refute my argument.
This NFT malarkey is hypocritical. When it comes down to it nobody actually cares enough to do anything other than add to the footprint with excessive forum posts.
Sure, let it be known how unhappy you are with BHVR. I've nothing against that, however at this stage it’s devolved into meaningless circle-jerking.
None of the people posting are going to give up any of their luxuries which harm the environment, so who are they to make demands?
There are far bigger fish to fry than NFTs. Just look at the gaming industry! Yet, we don't see all these gamers up in arms about that. How curious.
The merc store is responsible for a far greater carbon footprint than any of BHVRs involvement with NFTs.
That's just a fact.
When presented with this fact, nobody cares.
They continue to sit at their gaming PCs, connected to their broadband, posting on the forums of the video game they choose to play, fists shaking at their 4k monitors, horrified and appalled at BHVR, and NFTs.
We could get into blockchain as a whole, or the mobile phone industry, or the automobile industry, so on so forth, and it would simply highlight my point further.
"The Merc store is far greater blah blah blah" except it isn't. And I've proven that above with sources. All clothing is 1/5 the footprint of crypto as a whole and crypto is required for NFTs.
If you can't even get your facts straight how are you gonna preach about hypocrisy?
You think you're doing some grand "ah ha gotcha!" Moment. But you aren't. And the even funnier part is, you didn't do any research to see if those very things your ragging on, are carbon neutral which means you literally do not have a point. None.
I don't normally call out environmental ######### personally because nobody wants to hear it and they aren't going to listen to me.
But as I said earlier, if all of this bitching and "hypocrisy" leads 1 person to rethink their carbon footprint, then it's worth it.
Cite. Your. Sources.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577505#Comment_2577505
You’ve done nothing of the sort, but we can leave it at that if you’d like. We’ll agree to disagree.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577416#Comment_2577416
Are you trying to suggest that the sale of T Shirts on the merc store has had less of an environmental impact than BHVRs involvement with NFTs?
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577483#Comment_2577483
Yes! Substantially! Even using the (incorrect) numbers you suggested earlier, just 200 T Shirts would = 2,400 kWh!
The accurate numbers are even higher. Clearly we need to reevaluate our priorities.
I mean you can stick your head in the sand, but my numbers up there are sourced and proven. You've yet to provide any sources and all of this is your own conjecture, not to mention that if the tshirts being made are made with carbon neutral companies you literally no longer have a point at all.
But you keep pretending you've done something here. We will continue to laugh at you.
Go ahead and cite your sources. Let's see what research you've done.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577307#Comment_2577307
Actually on second thought, I'm going to go through that little tirade of yours to further elucidate.
All I hear is "wanh Wanh people don't like NFTs. Wanh wanh I'm going to make this completely arbitrary, asinine argument that means nothing to anyone and doesn't even prove the point I'm trying to make because t-shirts have use, an NFT doesn't"
Eloquently written, I'm sure by a pleasant individual, however it's a fundamental misunderstand of my point. My argument is very straightforward and irrefutable. I will break it down:
BHVR: T Shirts = Luxury.
BHVR: NFT = Luxury.
1) Production and sale of T Shirts has substantially greater environmental impact.
2) T Shirt = easier solution.
3) Yet nobody cares about T Shirts.
4) Hypocrisy.
5) Fake activism.
All you're doing is being pissy on the internet.
Interesting. I'm in a perfectly good mood. I don't believe I've written anything remotely “pissy.”
You on the other hand...
Anyone who has half a brain sees right through your bullsheet.
My argument is not only simple, but strictly logical and irrefutable. Note how you've been unable to refute it, despite claiming that half a brain is all that's required. You do have half a brain at least? 😅
You're right, I'm not too friendly to ignorant people. Especially when it comes to environmental causes, because most people are too ignorant to even know what they're talking about. Thanks for making my case for me. Anyone who has half a brain sees right through your bullsheet.
I find it odd how you claim to be protective of the environment, yet you happily admit that you don't care about the environmental impact of the production and sale of T Shirts, A bit inconsistent!
If my argument is so easy to “see through,” why has nobody done that yet? I would be more than happy for you to provide me with a counterargument.
I've already proven you wrong. My job is done here.
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577367#Comment_2577367
Am a God fearing person. I don't want to be like them; they are dishonest and deceitful and cause damage. As an american with a fading sense of patriotism, I find the company's endeavors to be in line with the modern wave of socialism thats choking out freedom and individuality. Extreme censorship and selective/exclusive public relations coupled with an ill-refuted sense of worldly unity is toxic to human freedom and it's easy to see that around everywhere these days, bhvr is not the sole purveyor of such illicit debauchery.
Yes, cellmate, we will likely be silenced by the Selective Speech Squad for these comments. At no time tho were you nor I derogatory were we? At no time were you nor I dishonest, were we? Perhaps either of us can be mistaken, but certainly not found in the error of their ways.
I wouldn't ask you to feel bad for them, tho, but I'd ask you to consider if you'd feel bad for yourself if you ever regretted becoming like them.
Forgiveness is divine. What I'd call upon you is to remind me that damage can be a permanent solution for a temporary problem. But, perhaps, I am mistaken; perhaps what we have here is a permanent problem. A permanent problem can only require a permanent solution. And we can deploy a permanent solution without becoming like them. Am I mistaken? Is this a permanent problem on our hands? I might fail to understand the gravity of the situation.
There's a difference between ending the problem and letting it drag out. War is in my blood, sir. Generations and generations deep.
Sorry, you lost me at the company being in line with socialism which is probably the worst thing you could have said. Have a good day.
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577307#Comment_2577307
If that’s your takeaway then I don't hold out much hope for your success in college, or your future job prospects...or the environment for that matter, if you've anything to say about it 😂
Honestly though, why are you so angry? This has clearly pushed a few buttons.
I couldn't care less about NFTs. I'm simply calling out hypocrisy and fake activism with basic points. The responses I'm getting prove the points I've already made.
It's an absolute, irrefutable fact that the sale of T Shirts on the merc store has had, does have, and will continue to have a considerably greater impact on the environment than anything BHVR is doing with NFTs.
Its not even close! Yet nobody cares! Who could have seem that one coming, right?
You even admit yourself that you just don't care! Why could that be!?
You think you're doing your part and those thoughts could come with good intentions, but the reality is you're supporting and benefiting from a plethora of luxuries which harm the environment everyday, and going to college won't make a dent in your footprint.
You’re in no position to judge anyone.
Let me go ahead and pull some numbers, because why not.
Clothing in general provides roughly 10% of all carbon emissions a year. That's equal to about 1.2B tons of CO2 equivalent. (https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/fast-fashion-climate-change/)
BItcoin, on the other hand, has produced 36.95MEGATONS in the last year. (https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption)
Nope, you really don't have a point.
Edit - you also aren't taking into account how many fashion companies are now carbon neutral. I looked for the manufacturer of DBDs clothing and I can't find it, but if it's any of the big ones, Hanes, FTL, etc, they're all carbon neutral, which means your point flies right out the window.
Oh yeah, why don't you go ahead and cite your sources, btw?
Edit 2 - oh yeah, let's throw in Etherium since I didn't even notice it on the page. Etherium has put out 37.85MEGATONS of CO2 in the last year. (https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption/)
Get back to me when any clothing manufacturer gets that high.
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@Superyoshiegg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577376#Comment_2577376
Exactly, that's my point. OP is complaining about a non-issue that has been around for years.
RIght on! Glad we're on the same page. <3
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@Superyoshiegg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577220#Comment_2577220
Hex: Thrill of the Hunt was added for free in Patch 1.3.1, two days after the Hag released in Patch 1.3.0.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577203#Comment_2577203
Indeed you couldn't. Iridescent Shards were used exclusively for the Shrine of Secrets until June 2018, where the in-game Store was introduced during the second anniversary Chapter release.
Even then, you could still get her perks on the Shrine during that time, and they did pop up.
I just looked through the Shrine's history, and each of the Hag's three perks showed at least five times each between her release (December 2016) and the Store's release (June 2018).
So then people just need to wait til her perks get onto the Shrine. Got it.
*edit - I mean that's what they did with Hag right? Made you wait til the perks got into the shrine if you didn't want to buy her? So I don't see much difference here. Heck, you actually have MORE options here than you did with Hag.
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577330#Comment_2577330
I didn't say you have to be nice to them. Keep in mind, I've been banned several times on this forum for advocating a severe reduction in their labor forces.
Ultimately, doing wrong because they are doing wrong is also wrong. We all know how dishonest and damaging they are. Are you going to lower yourself to what we expect from them?
Is that an excuse for you to behave like them? An eye for an eye, I suppose.
My question is, why not be as bad as them? You're saying don't sink to their level, but I have literally NO reason not to. I mean that literally. Companies are not moral, so I do not feel i have to be moral back. If I hadn't seen this stuff for the last 40 years of my life, I might feel differently, but I've yet to see a company do good for goods sake.
And if you can't beat 'em, might as well join 'em and learn their game. (no pun intended)
I only consider morals relative to an individual, not to a company that's beholden to profit. I hear and understand that you disagree, and I completely see and understand your point. But the fact that you've been banned for talking about their labor force shows they do not learn. How am I supposed to "rise above" that?
I know this is more of a philosophical discussion at this point. But I'm sorry, I can't bring myself to feel bad for ANY company that only cares about your dollars, no matter how moral or immoral being that way is.
I expect a ban, so I'm sure I'll be right there with you LOL
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@PalletsAndHooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577242#Comment_2577242
You are correct that a consumer's number one tool is money. Your use of the word damage is the issue I have here. If you want to damage the company with money, you can do that. If you want to change the company's value with your money, you can do that instead.
It's how you're using this idea that's going to result in any kind of effect. To teach or to damage, while you can certainly do both, I recommend avoiding any intent to damage.
Damage can be a permanent solution to a temporary problem whereas teaching can be a means of investment for the change you want to see in a solution.
Do you want to cause damage and risk no change or value gained from it at all?
I'm sorry, but there is a world of information out there, and there are literally thousands of resources on how to be a more sustainable company. BHVR has 850 employees. I guarantee you more than one employee knows how bad these are for the environment.
This idea that we have to "teach" a company is bullshhhh. These people make millions of dollars a year, but I'm supposed to be nice to them? Seriously?
You act like "oh we just have to show them a better way". They know the better way. They chose not to take it - and I can't believe anyone, in 2021 would think a company wouldn't know better, or would pander to them as if THEY'RE the ones hurt by this.
You say avoid intent to damage - where the fu is THEIR intent to not damage? Where is THEIR intent to be a force for good in the world?
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@El_Gingero said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2577264#Comment_2577264
See. You don't care.
On DBDs merc store, just the T Shirts alone blow all of BHVRs involvement with NFTs out of the water! It doesn’t even come close. This is huge.
Yet...me bringing this important fact to light is me, in your opinion, “running my mouth.”
You even go so far as to suggest that it's moronic! That doesn't sound too friendly!
The T Shirt issue is the bigger fish to fry, and it’s far easier to fix. If you ever decide to become environmentally conscious, can I count on you to add your name to the list?
All I hear is "wanh Wanh people don't like NFTs. Wanh wanh I'm going to make this completely arbitrary, asinine argument that means nothing to anyone and doesn't even prove the point I'm trying to make because t-shirts have use, an NFT doesn't".
I'm doing my part buddy, I'm in college for Sustainability and Environmental Studies. My plan is to get a job helping cities, hopefully megacities become more sustainable. All you're doing is being pissy on the internet. Anyone who has half a brain sees right through your bullsheet.
You're right, I'm not too friendly to ignorant people. Especially when it comes to environmental causes, because most people are too ignorant to even know what they're talking about. Thanks for making my case for me.