Wylesong

@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471205#Comment_1471205
fine i will do your research for you: googling "dbd reportable offenses" you see this: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system
Guess what it is in there.. (this has the penalty system for disconnects in it so it says do not report but currently it is not in there) but now that you've read the TOS you know they can remove your access for any reason what so ever, and this includes abuses of the game itself including "disconnecting" you do not have an action in the match that lets you "disconnect/leave the match" you have to open the match menu and use the functionality in that. this is abusing the system as that functionality is there to stop a game from going for hours. the fact you think that disconnecting for just any reason, or even a few reasons shows how much respect you hold others to and that is very little. as I stated before the functionality to disconnect is to prevent the matches from not finishing, survivor/killer stuck in the geometry or bug that prevents the game from completing.
NOW the reason there is a penalty now is becuase people will disconnect because they don't like how the killer nodded at them (yes i've heard and seen this), they didn't like that the killer tunneled them, or camped them. other reasons I've heard and seen "I was found right away." or "I don't like killer X" (only one of those i'd EVER agree on grudgingly, is in the case of a sever phobia for example of clowns as this is potentially a mental break or worse). all of those reasons are actual reasons i've been a witness to and it is not even fair for the killer or the survivors you play with.

Also two things, you are right they can perma ban and stop people from playing on steam, but once again you assume I bought it on steam. I own the cartridge and the game on switch so yes at best they could somehow stop me from playing online but I could still play local games with friends right here in my living room so point me. =)

Then number two about the TOS you are right by saying D/C is a bannable offense but no where in there does it directly list D/C and instead says this very vague and umbrella term:

"While participating in the Game, you also agree to comply with certain rules of conduct that govern your use of the game ("Rules of Conduct"), for example you may not:

"eHarass, threaten, embarrass, or do anything else to another user that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages or making personal attacks or statements about race, sexual orientation, religion".....and the list goes on but not one thing about D/C. Overall yes they could ban you for anything. I mean it says right there you may not do anything else to another use that is unwanted....well I do not want you to hook me or camp or tunnel me so report that. I do not want you to throw me on the ground and watch me bleed out so report that I guess. I mean it is like grasping at straws trying to make a point but just do what the rest of us do and go into a new game with a fresh smile and pep in your step or take a break. Good day mate and hope your problem get's fixed because deep down I do not think it is the D/Cing that is the issue but the root cause of why you are having so many people D/Cing when you play. Pip pip and cheerio! =)

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 24, 2020

@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471827#Comment_1471827
if you are so fed up with this, then take a break or quit playing all together. if you feel you have to expect to dc because a killer doesn't play YOUR way then find a different game. I am glad the penalty existed, and when it was gone suddenly I see 50% more dc's at minimum and it stops me from getting points, challenges and even escaping thanks to the selfishness of people like you. Personally I think the penalties were way too soft.

Take your own advice maybe. If YOU do not like the way the survivor plays either D/Cing or dieing on one hook then take a break. Your argument it is very one sided. You tell him to get over it and accept the way a killer plays well let the survivor do the same. Also if people are D/Cing that much with you as killer then maybe ask yourself why they are D/Cing because I cannot imagine people just do it for fun. I would only D/C if the killer is being a complete toxic player because the que time and load time can be long sometimes and then to D/C after all that, you must have bothered me enough I would guess.

I also can honestly say I do not see many D/C's so for it to be a problem with you it could be for a list of reasons. You could be playing toxic and camping and tunneling and then in that case good for them for D/Cing or, you could do what other killers do and farm the survivors by dropping and picking back up so they force you to escape only to smack you back down. I am not saying that is what YOU are doing but just saying these would drive anyone to D/C. There is a bunch of legit reason to D/C and even sometimes it is by accident.

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 24, 2020

@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1470723#Comment_1470723
4th level of the third tome, it's the one right be the epilogue in the center if you go from the top killer start point. says kill the players by any means possible and do it in one match. there has been one of these in each tome. I was saying that a dc does things, robs others of points, challenges, and many other things. in your case I would hope that the killer has a disconnect penalty that they have to bear. the only REASON to use out of match capabilities to leave the match is if you are stuck in the geometry or bugged where the game will not come to an end. Those two are the only reasons you should every disconnect from the game INTENTIONALLY.
It is not your RIGHT to disconnect. not when that disconnect affects others. The First Amendment in the united states only applies to the government, not businesses or the people. and you don't know where I am from either, you are assuming that I am in the united states and that in and of itself is bad. Because the first amendment has no functionality or existance here on this forum, Behavior can decide to lock anyone's account for any reason. doesn't matter what that reason is, if it's a crappy one, then they risk others finding out and deciding to not purchase things from them anymore or play their game.

It is THEIR RIGHT because they paid for the game. I do not care about what the Constitution or whatever says. It is funny you assumed I am from there. Once again like others you assumed that I assumed or cared where you are from and I didn't and don't, but plain and simple you cannot tell someone who used THEIR OWN MONEY what they can and cannot do in THEIR copy of the game.

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@SweetTerror said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1469509#Comment_1469509
From what I understand they recently did a pretty big update that not only ironed out a lot of bugs, but that also incorporated single player challenges. That being said, I understand wanting to pursue other projects considering that they were basically hit with a cease-and-desist order on incorporating anything more into the Friday the 13th game.

Oh I agree 100% on wanting and needing to move onto bigger and better things but when they decided to move on from what I seen there was very big bugs. I mean escaping in the car only to have the car teleport back in the map and flip and this happened a lot. I have gotten stuck while playing Jason and could not move until someone hit me as well. I also seen a lot of random DC. I will say the game seems to have fixed a good amount but I figured with nothing else to do BUT fix bugs that game could be a well polished game and still not have the huge bugs it has.

The game still has its charm though and is fun but the other reason I stopped playing was the age group of the average player dropped to between as young as like 8 to 16 and the kids are so loud and vulgar. I know that sounds dumb but to me it is hard to enjoy a game when you have kids at that age thinking its cool to scream and swear just because to them it is new and cool but to anyone that reads this give F13 a chance it is not a horrible game. =)

in So DBD is getting bots. Could this mean a potential single player mode in the future? Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@Freki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1469209#Comment_1469209
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1469043#Comment_1469043
It is not a victory. if I am trying to kill all 4 survivors (for challenge) a DC DOES NOT COUNT I have to play again. If I'm to unhook the person that unhooked me before and they dc then I can't do that.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1469054#Comment_1469054
don't like it? then don't worry about staying in game. either afk, or attempt escape on hook. if you don't like either of those tough. it is against TOS to dc/rage quit. stop playing the game if you see it that often.

Just checking for that challenge? I cannot find the one were you have to kill all 4 survivors. I am not being rude but just asking or are you made and just saying IF there was a challenge it would be impossible with people D/Cing? I mean it it is the later question then I could say I hate when a killer hooks me IF I am trying to do a challenge that I have to play without getting hooked, which there has been one, or if I am doing a challenge where I must escape using Dwight.

I have had a killer D/C because they did not hook one person and because I did not escape out the gate I could not complete the challenge. I did not get mad and laughed and moved on. I say you do you and if people get punished then you may lose players all together who hate that because their internet crashed, and that has happened to me, get in the banned que time for something out of their control. I had one match I was dead and in the loading screen for the end results so me turning my game off should not have mattered, but I got a drink and went to play again and had a 10 minute que time. I decided to take a long break from the game and play other stuff.

Also like one person mentioned above there is a good list of reasons to D/C and it is everyone rights to D/C even yours.

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@NekoTorvic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1469525#Comment_1469525
TBH I very rarely judge a killer for what they do in a match when I play survivor. Because I know that if I have teammates who are doing gens and can run the killer for like 20 seconds, as long as I don't ######### up I can win the match. So either the killer is doing whatever they are doing out of absolute necessity or my teammates and I are just ######### up and that's why we're losing. So yeah, I too am more likely to be upset at myself or my teammates than the killer, because Im aware the killer has a different perspective of the match.
There are some ttvs that understand the bigger picture and when they are upset at something they have a good reason... but at least in my experience, most ttvs that I go against and then watch the VOD act like they think whining about the killer is what you're supposed to do instead of getting better XD
I dunno if you saw the video with full volume, but goddamn he deliberately ignores spine chill(which is the worst thing he does), is wearing earbuds which I can't assume are as good as decent gaming headphones, so he doesn't hear Ghostface's cloth flaps, he doesn't even bother looking around to see if it's a stealth killer, especially after seeing spine chill light up. Gets grabbed and Immediately complains about Ghostface, because I guess Spine chill is not enough, he literally needs a massive sound queue to tell him the killer is coming from a mile away.
He gets unhooked and after getting healed immediately hops on a gen(which BTW with two people gets completed in 47 seconds, like the killer can just let that happen...). He sees the Ghostface doesn't pick up the Claudette, and once again SEES SPINE CHILL LIGHT UP. Doesn't even bother to let go of the gen until he sees the Ghostface, obviously too late for him to run away safely, especially since he is at a corner of the map, and then complains about being tunneled.
I have seen this level of entitlement before, but it always amazes me just how these people will not recognize making the most basic of mistakes and then whine about the other players.

It was crazy. I mean why use Spine Chill if you are not gonna watch for it. I seen that go off and he stayed there so I was like yep you were warned. I know I use Spine Chill and STILL look around so this was just all dumb on his part. lol

in This is tunneling now? Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@NekoTorvic said:
Whenever I play against TTVs I always check the VOD to see what they saw in the match from their perspective.
It's very interesting to see how they think, most of the time they feel victimized when they don't see the bigger picture of what's happening, or they just played poorly and don't care to see why. Like that streamer in the video you showed deliberately ignored spine chill... I guess moving the camera to see if it's a stealth killer is too much effort for him...
For instance, I had a match with clown where they 3 genned themselves because they did gens too fast to pay attention, this TTV was on a SWF with one other person in the match. Obviously once I downed someone I would hook them in the middle of the 3 gen so I could patrol it. Obviously they accused me of camping before even realizing they 3 genned themselves, after a mere like 5 seconds of me not leaving the hook area...
Same thing happens when they see I slug or tunnel someone, but they don't see what I see as killer, which is 3 gens done, a forth one at 75% and two more at 50%....
Or one time, I was playing Deathslinger, this ttv was the last survivor on Haddonfield, looking for the hatch. Instead of looking around to see if I could be following him, he basically just ran out in the open looking straight ahead of him, didn't even look side to side... Naturally, I had spotted him, and shot him from outside my TR before he made a corner, so it was a pretty good longshot. In the VOD he was talking to chat and immediately stops when he gets shot and starts whining about how Deathslinger is so boring... nevermind how carelessly he was playing and how the shot I made was a difficult shot...
I wonder how common it is for survivors in general to complain about stuff when they play poorly or can't see the whole context of the match before they start feeling victimized by the big bad killer, and ttvs are just a little glimpse of that we actually get to see. And there's probably killer ttvs that are just as unreasonably whiny...

I agree it is all in the perspective of the player but it does happen I think more with people that stream because god forbid they look bad in front of their followers. I mean who wants to watch someone suck at a game so it is better to blame others then their own lack of skill or self awareness. I mean I have played a few games as survivor where I did get mad but that is actually more at fellow survivors then the killer. I mean when I am using kindred and you see the killer camping and instead of doing gens, not 1, not 2, but all 3 come in to stand there and pretty much watch me die. GO DO GENS while i waste the killers time.

I actually respect good killers and yes there are certain killers I respect more when played well like Nurse and Clown. I know people say legion stinks but I personally love him/her because they can cover a good amount of the maps. I know I am off topic but overall I will sum it up by saying simply it is human nature to try to place blame in places other than ourselves sadly.

I think this person did the right thing and does it suck this guy got down so soon, sure but it is his own fault for not taking Spine chill's warning and thinking the killer should not touch him while on a gen. Heck he may have even left him alone had he not been on a gen but sitting on a gen he needed to be stopped.

in This is tunneling now? Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@SweetTerror said:
If the game is getting bots as a way to take over for players that disconnect, and that are designed to play at different difficulty levels given the ranks of the people in the game, then I see no reason why these bots couldn't be used to create a single player mode. It was done for Friday the 13th, so why not DBD?

I agree but I hope they are much smarter and less buggy then F13. That game lost me when the fact they could no longer add new stuff, I figured okay then maybe they will take the time and polish what they have. Nope they instead pretty much said okay we are done and left the bugs, so the AI will randomly run into doors and just keep running and then sometimes they will even just walk to you. I actually wanted to like F13 but the creators themselves gave up on the game when they could have polished that and fixed the AI.

I really hope the AI does come and plays at the proper level giving. I mean if the killer is a BOT they could maybe place the level at the highest or second highest survivor rank and the other way around. If a survivor D/C's the AI will play at the killers rank. Just an idea for thought.

in So DBD is getting bots. Could this mean a potential single player mode in the future? Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

IF the player d/c take it as a win and move on. =) No need to get mad. The only person the loses out really is the person that d/c's and gain no points and wasted their own time.

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

I will be honest if I know the killer has a mori I will either die on hook or sometimes DC. I only do it because 8 out of 10 times the killer will tunnel me once off the hook in hopes to use their Mori. I do not mind being Mori but I hate when someone tunnels just to use it. I personally never use Mori but I do not mind others using it but please do not make that the only reason for the match. Go pressure the others because the killers that stand there and wait to get the mori waste more time then just pressuring the others and getting me later. =)

in Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

I feel dumb asking but was this actually a thing? Did the devs mention they were gonna add bots or were thinking about it? I am trying to find info but so far nothing. I mean I guess it would be better to have a AI teammate when someone D/c's then no one. At least it is another body to help distract the killer. =)

I found articles and a youtube video and so far it seems mobile exclusive but MAYBE other platforms and I say sure bring it to us. I would rather have a AI try then a body lay there on the ground because someone rage quit. lol

in So DBD is getting bots. Could this mean a potential single player mode in the future? Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@azame said:
After using this forum for some time the amount of killer bias here is insane. Any thing that even slightly benefits survivors is looked down upon. I think the main reason for this bias is do to the fact that in the past survivors were op but nowadays they arent that strong.
But because of the effects of 2016-rarly 2018 real survivor problems are ignored and that's not good. If we continue to ignore problems survivors face the player base will decline and the killer wait times will increase and inevitably the game will die.
Killer mains stop looking at survivors as someone out to ruin your game and look st them as a human wanting to have fun playing too.
I'm tired of the us vs them mentality why cant it be just "us." Why can't we look at all the problems as a whole and work to fix them. I ask killer mains and survivor mains alike play the opposite side and get good at it try to understand their struggles.
For you killer mains that say survivor is op go plag solo survivor at rank 1 and ask yourself do you want to play swf or that. For you survivor mains that think killer is op go play wraith on ormond and ask yourself is this even fair.
You guys know moris and keys right? Yeah they are both broken they both need reworks. The point I'm trying to make is that we need to get together and combine the community rather than divide and only then will dbd improve its health.

Oh please not the Key and Mori thing. I have seen even killer mains on youtube say Mori is certainly OP and much more broken than any key. Yes the key is super strong in SWF groups but in solo que you are lucky if one survivor gets out. Then I did not know this until the person I was watching on youtube mentioned it but even with a key if the killer finds the hatch and closes it and just stands right on it, key or not you cannot open it. The mori's have no real defense other than dont get caught which I mean yes is easy logic but that is not a real line of defense for everyone because someone WILL get caught and tunneled.

The key has so much you need to do and heck I ran the entire map 4 times over a few games ago and left out the gate because I could not find the hatch. When I looked, I mean I looked all over and in between boxes and on hills and in patches of grass. I slow walked everywhere and waited for the open hatch trigger but nothing. Oh also add the fact that if you bring the key in 8 out of 10 times the killer tunnels and kills you and you never even get the chance to look for the hatch that has not spawned yet. I mean it just makes the key OKAY at best in SOLO QUE and I agree OP in SWF. I think that is what is breaking survivor side is the SWF.

Just like I said way before the person on youtube said it but the key is OP in certain situations but Mori is always OP.

I do agree though with your post and that people need to walk in each other shoes before claiming EVERYTHING is OP. I mean heck I hate mori's but I wont say delete them. Yes some matches stink but that is the best part about this game, every match is different and you may have a crap one then a great one right behind it. =)

Hope everyone has a great time playing! Please be nice to each other. =)

in This forum is very killer biased. Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@ILoveDemo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1467959#Comment_1467959
No I swaer I diden't played toxic until the end. The only toxic thing in this Match was the slug and the nod.
And tbh is it against a rule to play as Spirit? I mean I don't care what anyone else is playing (perks/killer)

Well to be honest you seem to be either shocked they were mad or find it funny it seems. It might even be both but I mean from where I am sitting I can kind of see why. Your first post you admit you knew Spirit is pretty much OP and Unfun to play against and I will admit she is but I still try. Then in the match you not only leave him on the ground but acknowledge it by nodding at him. Okay this so far is sounding like you went out of your way to be toxic. Then at the end when the one person calls you a piece of doodie, instead of singling him out you then say EEEZZZY. That is a slap in the others face who have done or said nothing wrong and now I know why they were all mad.

I mean you do you but personally I tend to think the moves you did were toxic and honestly you started it by letting him bleed out and knodding. Then saying EZ after using a killer you already knew was very strong. I guess the best thing to say is put yourself in their shoes. I think that is what is wrong with not just this game but well the world. We are busy thinking about ourselves and hurting others. I mean if you just hooked him and he died and then he said this crap then sure I would say he was a salty survivor and just upset he lost but it sounds more like the fact you trolled him and watched him die.

I just play the way I would want to be treated when I play killer. I would never leave anyone to die and just dislike toxic behavior on both sides but it is your game and you paid for it so play however you like. =) ......See you in the OUCH this damn fog is thick and that wall came from no where......anyway see you in the fog.....mwhahahaha

in Salt, so much salt...enjoy XD Comment by Wylesong July 23, 2020

@Pryzm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1465429#Comment_1465429
This is completely untrue. First of all, both sides have to invest to get perks. As survivor, you max as many as you want, same as killer. I have 5 killers maxed and will likely never max any others. They are the five I like to run. I know several killer mains who have only one killer maxed because it is the only one they like to run. Nobody HAS to max 20 characters. That is a choice.

Maybe I misunderstood your statement below:

"Maybe instead of complaining about not making more BP (EVEN THOUGH SURVIVORS REALISTICALLY ONLY NEED TO MAX OUT ONE CHARACTER WHILE KILLERS NEED TO MAX OUT 20+ WHILE KEEPING A HEALTHY SUPPLY OF ADD-ONS AND SURVIVORS DON'T), you should ask for the grind to not be, I dunno, a grind."

What is it killers need to max out?

It was something that @Sairek said

in When will BP be better on survivor side? Comment by Wylesong July 22, 2020

@dudeguy129 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1463058#Comment_1463058
Unreliable , the killer just shifts there head while still moving at greater movement than the survivor , the only time to really get the flashlight stun is during an animation lock a knife or sling shot would work map wide specifically when you happen to be in a dead zone

I actually kind of agree. I feel like flashlights are harder to aim and hit with than throwing a a hatchet blindly. I mean the crazy hit box that killers have and yet a flashlight can't hit when I am standing in front of the killer with the flashlight in his eye socket. lol I have been hit with hatchets and other things but I am sure others have seen these crazy things. I never use flashlights and love when I play killer and I see people using them. They are not weak but just super hard to use. I hope to get better. =)

in Survivor need a new item Comment by Wylesong July 22, 2020

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1462596#Comment_1462596
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1462922#Comment_1462922
Oh look, made more than the "average" and more than the killer:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/49IQ3SRL5X5E/image.png
Here's one around the time I came back from my DBD break. Above the average and around the killer's BP.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SAAM9WOEYTGO/image.png
And there's been plenty more. Of course, I don't screen shot every match where I get a good BP number as survivor or every time a killer gets a pitiful amount of BP.
Like, I don't understand. Survivors share BP (between gens, totems, being chased by the killer, doing saves, etc) between three other people, and survivor is a much easier role than killer. They shouldn't consistently make as much or more BP as them, and they have not once, not twice, but three times increased the amount of BP survivors get in the past year and a half. They made totems give more BP (twice). They gave BP for wiggling even if you don't escape, they gave BP on dying or living as the obsession.
Maybe instead of complaining about not making more BP (even though survivors realistically only need to max out one character while killers need to max out 20+ while keeping a healthy supply of add-ons and survivors don't), you should ask for the grind to not be, I dunno, a grind.

Why does survivor side only need to max one character but killers need to max 20+?

I figured both sides need to max all if they want to unlock all perks to be taught to each character? I could be wrong but like I need to max Dwight to unlock his perks so Kate can learn them in her blood web. The same goes for the killer side. I need to max Hag to have her perks on Legion.

in When will BP be better on survivor side? Comment by Wylesong July 22, 2020

@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1462854#Comment_1462854
Both sides are dependent on each other for a good amount of BP. Again, what is your point?
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1462946#Comment_1462946
It is not in any shape, or form imbalance. Killer is the harder role. They have more to do, and require more strategy. Therefore, they get more bloodpoints. Killers getting more BP is also seen as an incentive to play killer. So, if you want the BP, play killer. Earn it.

Killer is not that hard. I mean I have played many rounds as killer and dont even hook anyone once. I run around fooling around and maybe slug and let the people go and get an easy 15k without trying. How is that hard earning what Survivor side gets while they work and trying. I mean survivor side can do a ton of work and at average get 14-22k. As a killer we can literally run around acting foolish and get that in our sleep. lol

You are right killer side is harder though if you are a killer who needs to get that 4K every match and the 30+ k BP every match but it is super easy to get what the survivor side gets while they work hard while not trying at all as killer. I still enjoy playing survivor though from time to time. =)

in When will BP be better on survivor side? Comment by Wylesong July 22, 2020

@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1462793#Comment_1462793
If the killer tunnels one person, they aren't getting a lot of BP either. What's your point?

You make a valid point that the killer does not get good BP then but once again the survivors still heavily depend on a killer doing their job and giving chase. If the killer chooses to tunnel and camp one survivor then he deserves his lack of BP but it's sad the other side is punished as well even if they try to get the killer to chase and they don't. It is a hard debate really and there is no right answer sadly.

in When will BP be better on survivor side? Comment by Wylesong July 22, 2020

@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1443525#Comment_1443525
You assumed that I assumed you were a killer main. I never assumed you were a killer or a survivor main. I spoke openly to any killer who plays and gets upset that one person escaped.
Yes, because it's standard practice to speak openly when you're talking with one person and responding to what they're saying.
Also to your point you are right about survivors doing bare minimum to make the hatch spawn but how often do you see this situation compared to the mori situation?
More often. Moris are rarely present in my trials, makes me wonder if it's a regional thing.
You are using a far out example when a few others even point out how killers camp just to get the mori. I will say though your 0.0001% scenario has merit.
I didn't realize you had statistical information about each situation. Please post your data so we can all look at it. Either that or admit you're claiming my scenario is unrealistic because it makes it easier to dismiss.

I was not only talking to you but anyone that reads this. I double checked but I am pretty sure this is a forum for everyone and anyone to read.

I am also wondering now how different each game is and if it is not just regional but also the platform you play on. I play on Switch so that may be why my experience is apparently widely different than yours.

I did not claim it was unrealistic because even with that small of a percent it still makes it real. It just lowers the chance of it happening.

I want to say it was fun but gonna go play some games and hope you have good luck in your games as well. =) You made the start of my day fun and I like a good debate. Later my new friend! lol