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@RJoyYourJoy19 said:
I can and absolutely will ruin the match for everyone, forcing me to stay won't change a thing. And are you genuinely gonna ignore how many buffs killers are getting in this patch while survivors are not getting a single thing? What kind of survivor is looking forward to receiving several massive nerfs lol
Survivors are getting more anti everything while Killers gets nothing. Killers should get more and if you ruin the game for other people then ur no different than a Killer who slugs all Survivors leaving them to bleed out all game. When you go next ur leaving ur team without a 4th Person. If you can't handle this game don't play it and leave it with people who do actually enjoy the game.
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I'm more excited because fnaf has been a part my childhood sense the first games trailer. When I was probably 13 14 years old I was in a very rough spot when I was young and fnaf was there with not only it's horror elements but also it's never ending story with billions of possibilities within one universe. So it's not just a game to me it's my entire Childhood
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The Ghoul
It's because no one actually plays against him and I know he's gonna end up like the Skull Marchant where he will be changed to the point he will be unplayable so what's the point in playing the Killer.
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@meg_solos said:
Like the title says my hot take for the ghoul is that he shouldn't apply deep wounds and he shouldn't be able to cancel his power WHILE he's flying. that's just ridiculous lol
Sooo remove his only way of downing survivors when he can't down survivors with his power. It's werid how people crap on a killer that's supposed to be A pick up and play killer meaning he's gonna be hard to go against. If you ever hear devs say the new character is a Pick up and play concepted is a huge red flag there gonna be very strong or busted
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@Shinkiro said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3942200#Comment_3942200
Didn't you know? It's always the killers fault no matter what. That is the gospel of the survivor rulebook.
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Uhm this is probably why lower Tier Killers are not picked. Some Killer Mains play lower tier killers to have a better experience.
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Yes but once the new update hits with the anti-Camping, Tunneling, slugging bully Squads will take advantage of those things. I'm morely speaking for the newer player base. I've won against countless Bully Squads because most of them are bad. The Survivors are getting basekit DS off hook and Anti Slugging will probably won't be that bad and honestly I don't camp that often. If you all think about it what kinda basekit stuff will get other than more Tbags at the gates and people leaving the killer side. If anything bully Squads have more ways to keep the killer hostage than the killer does. Killers shouldn't need to bring perks or stronger Killers to just play the game
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I was not able to play the PTB but for what I seen he's not PTW level good. He just looks fun to play as
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@Jinxcore said:
Do NOT go through with these Artist addon changes. If you feel there still needs to be changes made then by all means. Take some more time to revisit everything. Because all you did was gut strong addons without compensating with proper changes for the bottom performing addons.
She is not a highly picked or played killer. You say she's balanced so you say eh let's just bring her down a notch when she's already a nightmare to play on 1/3 of the games maps.
Don't worry they are reverting the changes thanks to people like this who actually care. Good work you won this fight
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@angrychuck said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3941424#Comment_3941424
OP is complaining about getting hit after they've dropped pallet on killer, as in they go to pallet stun the killer, killer swings and it hits them as the pallet is being dropped. Nothing to do with aura reading or picking up survivors.
It was just a misunderstanding I thought it was on the killer side not the survivor side
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@Iron_Cutlass said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3941424#Comment_3941424
Idk how it is possible to miss the entire point of OP's post not once but twice (not trying to be rude, I just genuinely dont understand).
Also, to answer OP's question, there are many factors that actually contribute to getting hit through a pallet.
Lag/Latency paired with Hit Validation (via the Server) tends to be one of the leading causes of getting hit, but it can also be caused due to hitboxes (Survivor's effect location) versus hurtboxes (Killer's area that would hurt a Survivor if their hitbox touches it).
One of the easiest ways to get hit through a pallet is if the Killer short-M1s through a pallet since it causes the Survivor dropping the pallet to move the Survivor's hitbox into the Killer's hurtbox, it's insanely consistent to pull off as well. Sometimes with lunging (M1) this can still happen but it is not as consistent as just using a short-M1.
It's probably because I have Autism level 2 which it makes it hard for me to understand
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@angrychuck said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3941424#Comment_3941424
OP is complaining about getting hit after they've dropped pallet on killer, as in they go to pallet stun the killer, killer swings and it hits them as the pallet is being dropped. Nothing to do with aura reading or picking up survivors.
Oooooh 😂😂😂😂
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@burt0r said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3941278#Comment_3941278
What has that to do with this thread? OP is complaining about getting hit through pallets, nothing to do with auras?
Uhm did you know some Arua Reading perks or Addon or even perks that make survivors Scream or give away there passion can find survivors who are hiding nearby To drop pallets on you while picking up.
I'll put a Scenario you down a survivor over a pallet As Clown who has the Addon that when he uses his yellow bottles to speed himself he can see the Aruas of survivor around him. Before you pick up you can use that to look around for any survivors hiding to drop the Pallet on you before it happens.
I know not all of them do it but there is some that do that. I'll list the perks that can do this
1(human Greed:perk: this one is good if someone was hiding near a Chest that was somehow near the pallet:)
2(Spres from the Shadows:Perk: this one can Be useful if someone scared a bird away near the pallet:)
3(Whispers:perk: if you have a headset you can hear Whispers that say a Direction of a survivor near the pallet before picking up:)
4(Cigar Box:The Clown Addon: use this to see survivors aruas who are near you before picking up:)
5(Lantern of Revealing:The Lich Addon: Shoot ur Flight of The Damned in a Direction where you might think a survivor may hide near the Pallet to see them before picking up. You can also use the Dispelling Sphere to check as well I would use both these strategies before picking up:)
There is probably more but these can be used to provent pallet saves
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I would say the killer that sucks my soul out has to be Trickster not for playing against but playing as. His music is annoying and his power is honestly just pure boring to use
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Then run perks or addons that sees survivors Aura like Clown has a Addon that allows him to see survivors auras when close to you. There are perks that do that maybe try them out
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If ur being hit by Pallets then there are 3 ways I normally handle that situation. Always bait Pallets to be dropped and just break them always remember there are only limited amount of Pallets so soon they won't have pallets. Allows look around before picking up near a pallet with some Killers like Trapper who can set a trap on one side of the Pallet and just simply pick up on the other this. If you can Allows try to hit the survivor in a way they fall away from the Pallet so they can't just crawl near the Pallet. Be aware of Power Struggle this Perk for survivors isn't counterable if they always allow you to down them over a pallet the best way to counter this is to Slug them all game if there doing this.
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@toukent said:
EVERY GAME IT CONSISTENTLY HAPPENS WHEN IM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PALLET!!
i swwwear it never happened this much and this consistently, anyone else having this issue? I have perfect ping and good server
That happens to me as well. That maybe a connection issue with the Killer or urself
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@100PercentBPMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3940807#Comment_3940807
that's a "go next" mentality if I've ever seen it
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣THATS WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I READ THAT
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@pigslittlepet said:
One problem, every single killer that wants to win will just automatically say smaller map. It's just easier no matter how good your mobility is.
I just thought of that with that maybe have Killers have a setbof Maps they are recommended to be on
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@IlliterateGenocide said:
he should of just been his own killer tbh. would been alot more iconic
That too. I would also would loved the other bears to be Skins as well
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I CANT WAIT FOR THE GAMMA SETTINGS. Oh and Springtrap obviously
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/447532/the-ghoul-was-ruined-for-me
Talk to the Skull Merchant mains, they know how you feel. Thing is, being a Licensed killer, he's unlikely to get DESTROYED like she was. So there is that, for what little its' worth.
Oh I know about that. And I can honestly relate to how they feel. I just feel nothing for The Ghoul except that It was ruined.
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Thats not what this is at all. I'm just saying I'm just giving up on this killer. I'm not making anyone do anything I'm just Setting the topic down and just walking away from it. I'm just done with the Killer in general. I'm not touching this killer or gonna talk about him from post on. I'm sorry if that's what it sounds like but it's not I'm just tired.
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I know this isn't the best rework idea but I was only trying to make him more fun to play and better to go against. To give him the easy gameplay but also more counterable at the same time. Honestly though this will be my last post on The Ghoul because I honestly just give up sadly. mainly because all that happens no matter what if it's good or a bad sight on the Character I get voted down and basically screamed at each time I say the killers in game name. I just give up. I will play him when everyone is happy with him. Morely the community ruined the killer for me
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@xGodSendDeath said:
I like to do that too with TTVers. If I win the match, especially if the person got tunneled/proxy camped/slugged, I always go to drop a GG WP to see if they get mad and go on a rant. I only ever get a GG WP from survivors when I get 3 and 4 outed, so I like to return the favor when I stomp someone
I know right. It's funnier when ur the one who does the salt giving. 😅😅😅 apparently my only lightborn Demogorgon was to much
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@Jtflorencio said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/447211/buff-m1-killers
They should have a % bonus to break and jump windows faster
OOr Basekit Gen Defense like if multiple Gens get finished the remaining Gens get blocked depending on how many get finished depends on how long there blocked off by the Entity
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@Stibfa said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3939774#Comment_3939774
Just because you dont see a lot of People do it doesnt mean suddenly his skill ceilling doesnt exist.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/B7FIOG3YVO4S/1000025879.gif
They should nerf enrage vault to promote this high skill gameplay instead of destroying kanekis skill ceilling
Tbh I don't think nerfing his vault speed for Enraged Mode Mode do anything I think his free hits will never change mainly because of the way the Killer was Designsd. I like you actually gave proof and not just complaining about it
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@nexuspi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3939447#Comment_3939447
I play killer often myself and fully understands the desire to get a 4K. That’s exactly why I mentioned changes to the hatch system — because I believe some level of slugging is understandable and even strategic.
However, when a killer refuses to pick up a slugged survivor until they are nearly bled out — or even forcibly revives them right before death just to keep searching for the remaining survivor — that I can not understand.
It becomes toxic behavior that shows no consideration for the other player's experience. Is securing a 4K really worth dragging the game out like that?
People normally do that if there 4k exclusive. If it's not a 4k it's a massive deal. When I do it. It's 1(I already know where the last survivor is) 2(the last survivor is right next to me making himself obvious) but spending 2mins searching for that survivor is unnecessary. I would change it if your on the half way point from being in the dieing state for so long making you able to just leave
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@Stibfa said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3939424#Comment_3939424
They should nerf his enrage vault
You know his enraged Vaulting speed is only Effected when he grabs you. So you don't want to drop the Pallet in front of him if he is Enraged Mode. Other than that his Enraged Mode is Literally the same other than a extra leap and faster vault speed when a survivor Is grabbed while Enraged. One legioned does Stab Stab Stab Stab putting people in the mending state all game. If his Enraged Mode was made like this it would morely be like a weaker Oni and a Much stronger Wesker. All because the Ghoul puts people in the mending state doesn't mean there Legioned it's like saying Myers is another Ghost Face because they both stake even though they both stake for different reason. I'm not making him anything like Legioned I'm giving his power more Depth for what his character is and counter play to make him fit the games style. If you look at his power and actually read it. It's literally the same I've played him and both normal and Enraged are the game just one had One extra Leap and faster Faulting speed when grabbing a survivor behind a window or Pallet. Them being the same with small changes are the reason why he's constantly on people is because there zero down time for the survivors because there the same
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Sorry us Killers are doing the smart thing. Getting the 4k is totally not are objective and Sorry it's not fun to just lay on the ground but Slugging for a 4k is better then some killer Slugging to let ur whole team Bleed out which was in the patch last update
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Bro this rework would work on him not getting free hits and hum going across the map in 2 secs. Nerfing his regular form and making his Enraged Mode so you have to work for getting it and making it limited time would make it more dangerous. Imagine Oni having his power Spirit Fury all game or Myers having Tier 3 all game long. Ghoul having both Normal and Enraged Mode different from one another makes him have Depth from DBD and His Character in General. When I played Ghoul I was Disappointed because he felt the game when he's in power or not.
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@Sarrif said:
No, he's 100% overpowered. They removed Chucky's scamper but ghoul has a much stronger version of it. Furthermore he has both insane map mobility and chase power. Most killers with such incredibly oppressive and strong abilities like spirit or nurse have lower movement speed to somewhat compensate but nope, ghoul is just a regular movement speed killer.
Furthermore he is so fast, many times his attacks are totally unavoidable, he can fling himself so quickly it does not matter if his terror radius is 40 meters he can simply be next to you in less than two seconds. Killers like Billy can also do this but lack the auto win button of ghoul that instantly damages a survivor which removes any form of counterplay. Even perks like sprint burst don't matter since he literally forces survivors to stop. Essentially no killers have free 1st hits, even legion you can try something at a pallet to counter his power. Stealth killers that try to sneak up on you, there's the ability to either hear them or run perks to help. Ghoul? There's nothing besides sheer luck and the deck is heavily stacked in ghouls favor.
Even his ability to vault pallets is stupidly broken. Look at Wesker, his is long enough that if a survivor pays attention they can do something about it, with ghoul he essentially looses nothing from vaulting a pallet and can instantly catch up. It's a no win situation against the ghoul.
TLDR, if they want to make him balanced remove his powers ability to hurt survivors to get rid of his ability to get free injures with no counterplay on survivor side OR make it so his powers in chase are dogwater and reduce his base movement speed so he actually needs to put in some effort to get the down.So ur saying he could be completely unplayable so no one would play him yeah that totally makes sense
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Honestly it feels the exact same. I completely it in a month like I would normally
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@xGodSendDeath said:
How are we supposed to make OP perks, killers, or maps better? We're not the devs. Basically all you can do is handicap yourself if you think something is unfair which the vast majority of people absolutely will not do. For example, when I play survivor, I never burn a map offering to a busted map because I know how ass it is to play against but that doesn't stop MY killer games from being 90% sent to badham, eyrie, comp key, comp bone
I was stating that we as a community should be figuring out how to solve issues and not remove play styles just because players think it's to op. I've want to state this was only on people just complain just to complain like map offerings are a huge problem for players sending people to unfair maps and people complain how OP Ghoul is but they don't give any solution to make him better. This was not against people who actually try there best and have solid proof and solutions of situations in the game.
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What I would do to buff them is to maybe increase basekit movement speed for the Killers like Myers and Ghosty and for maps I would make Gens Take longer to depending on the map size or just add basekit gen Defense instead of just the usual kicking of the Gen.
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@Rick1998 said:
still ??
the right way to play around ghoul is to never heal unless you're going for a save . Only drop pallet when outside his LOS . The reason so many struggle against him is they pre drop in his face making for an easy vault hit and they heal every single time which is a waste of time .What I see normally is Survivors Just Run in a straight line in the middle of the open and they Just expect him just to walk up to them like a normal killers would. This is a total different kind of killer and if survivors just took the time and learn him instead of complaining they would see The Ghoul I'd actually easy to bait.
When I go against him I learned to wait until Leaps at me and once he goes near me like he's smelling me I drop the pallet stun him then I run to the next tile
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@4thdslip said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3938754#Comment_3938754
Kaneki's most popular builds either use Barbeque and Chili, or free up the perk slot and use BBQ At Home (Yamori's Mask). The only way you can stealth that is by being in his terror radius, yet somehow unseen, or by hiding in a locker and counting to 12.
Kaneki can be outrun, though, with mindgames and decent tile knowledge. Aggressive killers require aggressive gameplay to counter it.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SENSE HE RELEASED
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@RodanThrelos said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3938754#Comment_3938754
They do that because it works. Either it's effective against the killer or the killer gets nerfs until it is. Every killer that has a different counter is "OP" and gets mass complained about.
Yes I agree. Maybe people should be learning how to counter him instead of complaining. Nerfing only will make people not want to play the killer. This was supposed to be a pick up and play killer meaning this killer doesn't have much of a Skill floor to be good with him so of course he is gonna be strong.
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@Shroompy said:
Its fun for a lil bit but itd be more enjoyable with randomized items and add ons. Offerings should be disabled too with the exception of BP offerings.
I agree with this. But think items should be disabled because this is just a hot spot for bullying Squads and uncountable playstyles that require you to use perks to counter it
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@smappdooda said:
Since this character came out, my friends and I don't really want to play the game anymore. This character (and the way people play them) is insufferable. Why you ask?
- The window to infect is HILARIOUSLY long. No other killer has that long a cool down I can think of.
- The REACH to infect is laughably ridiculous (Don't believe me? Look at this clip and tell me how this is fair?)
https://medal.tv/games/dead-by-daylight/clips/kq7PsW5HxJ_fKNW3R?invite=cr-MSxJQnAsMjQ0OTc0NTM1)
- The fact they can cancel their power after one leap to down almost instantly is dumb. Didn't Pyramid head get a big ol nerf cuz of that? That cool down needs to be more punishing.
- This is more a comment on the people who play Ghoul. 9 out of ten ghoul players come back to the unhook almost immediately because his kit allows you to do so. It's getting tiresome.
If DC penalties weren't a thing, you would see a HUGE influx of it against this killer I guarantee. I haven't been this annoyed since OG Legion came out and I took a very long break after that. I'm not trying to garner sympathy, just highlight a problem character that needs to be "brought in line" with the other killers.
For once as a Killer Main I agree but For the opposite reason. I stopped playing The Ghoul because his power can be horrible too use for either side its rather to OP or To damn buggy. I stopped play many killers because I would rather get 4 man DCs or the survivors just don't try just to go next. This killer is so unemploy that I just stopped playing him entirely.
If I would love to see is A Ghoul Rework
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I hate spiders and honestly that would be amazing to have a spider Killer because this is a Horror game. The Unknown is a great Example to this people hate and love him because he's scary an I heard that people had nightmares after encountering a Unknown but they came back to DBD (Plot Twist that person who had a nightmare of the Unknown was actually me) because of that thrill of being scared.
ITS A DAMN HORROR GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
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Honestly this mode is just a hot spot for Bully Squads and yes it allows you to have 4 perks on new Killers but that's about it. I never found this mode fun
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@Hex_Ignored said:
This would most likely flop harder than lights out. 3rd person for killer is a huge buff and 1st person for survivors a huge nerf, so I have no idea why anyone would ever queue up as survivor for such a mode.
Again it's only a thought. I've been wanting new gamemodes in DBD
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@FiveNightAtDwights said:
There shouldn't even be DC penalties.
Killer players are not entitled to survivors time. Those survivor players that enjoy going against 2000 wins in a row Nurses and Blight can keep playing against them but the rest of us should either get to DC and go against normal killer players or BHVR should add a killer ban system the same way other games have a hero/champion ban system.
There is multiple reasons why hero bans are a bad idea. People would bad the same Killers and you'll just never see that killer he played. The main reason is that it's bad is that if you like a Killer and there none stop banned then the killer Q would be extremely long and unplayable forcing people to play Killer they are not that good with or even like to begin with. It would ruin DBD not improve it.
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I could honestly be wrong. Because it's only a feeling I been having with this killer is a little different than any other killer I seen that came into DBD.
Again I can be completely wrong
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Sometimes im on top or next to a survivor but morely it's away from the survivor as well. I've figured out she is one of the bugged killers so.
I was trying to practice as nurse and every time after I use my first big blink the others just bounce me back without anything in front of me or a addon that does that. It acts like I didn't blink it looks like a Glitch. When I first played her when I played it wasn't like this.
I think this is why I'm not seeing any Nurse mains right now when I'm survivor
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@xGodSendDeath said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3936702#Comment_3936702
I got my fifth hook just as gens finish and found someone with friends and the other 2 bounced. Not a well paced or satisfying game at all
I actually agree with you. I've had multiple games as The Unknown that the survivors Gen rushed me not even in 2mins into the match they finished the Gens when my chases where actually good. I don't think it's the survivors it's the Map it's self. If they added stuff like if multiple Gens get finished the remaining Gens get blocked
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I love this Post. I do think Gen Rushing is a serious issue right now buy they will fix it when Survivors spawn together instead apart. I would love to see Depending on the map is how long Gens take to finish. Like if ur on a large Map the Gens take alot long as on smaller maps they take the usual time to finish. I don't think it's players it's the game Design morely. There are people who intentionally Gen Rushing which I think If the game detects that multiple Gens get finished the remaining Gens get blocked for 1min. I mean this happens Basekit btw
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3936184#Comment_3936184
To be fair, you are not really playing the game as intended. Which is a bannable offense.
@Topic:
IMO the first penalty or maybe the first two penalties should be lenient. Because people should not be punished too much for unintended crashes. Yesterday for some reason my game basically exploded when a Dracula transformed in front of me. I would have been quite mad if this would have been a harsh penalty.
And the last two willing DCs I did were against Cheaters. One time when playing Survivor, one time when playing Killer (several weeks between those). I dont care too much, since it is only one minute, but if it would be more I would be pretty upset that I get a harsh penalty because I faced a Cheater. (I could not even suicide on Hook as Survivor. I wanted to be out of the game since I dont want to play with a Cheater and they got me stuck in the Unhook animation…)
Well they are updating there Cheater detention system and that's why I wished there was a option for the server to vote of they want to end the match or not. Again I'm saying this for those who get butt hurt over small stuff like They don't like the Killer there up against or The Killer couldn't get the 4k at 5gens. And I think on the first penalty it's only the usual penalty but I say as the penalty grows from multiple DCing it becomes more harsh like you lose rank of the side you play on and you get a hefty Wait time until you can play again
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What I would do is make the Dredge Able to place Fake Lockers that if they interact with it it grabs them making lockers more risky and just add more Lockers in general because that's what makes him weak on some maps is the lack of lockers.