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Latency is still countering that so nothing really changed sadly.
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I'm enjoying watching top DBD streams d/c constantly mid match (both killer and survivor side) because they're annoyed.
10 minute killer queue versus 4 man bledette squads are rampant and it's hilarious asf.
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@Xx_Daniel_xX69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1197154#Comment_1197154
I don't think I exclusively called you out on being a survivor main but if I did I am sorry as I didn't mean it. I see your point but I don't see the sandbagging and such that your talking about. I play on ps4 so maybe that may be why. Personally I don't think decent games exist anymore as most games end with someone calling out another. As you said ruin sucked but got better so things will probly be the same, just take breaks like the killers needed to.
It's no problem and most killers won't see it from their pov. What usually happens is me or a friend are streaming and thr killer thinks we're sandbagging so they tunnel us and let the real sandbag gets but they go back and watch the vods and apologize for tunneling us and letting the real scumbags go. Usually a killer only sees 30% of the ######### survivors are doing.
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@Xx_Daniel_xX69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1197100#Comment_1197100
I think that will weed out the weak. The players that just use mori's or key's, the ones that just tunnel or camp, the ones that wanna hide in a locker all day, ect. I remember when killers thought the same when ruin was nerfed but was told to just tough it out. As a killer main I may get to play more survivor if enough leave and the ques are shorter and since I enjoy getting bloodpoints I'd love those games your describing. Also you can still be cooperative while being on separate gens, and if you really wanna do gens with other survivors just bring Prove thy self. When killers complain about keys or such we get told to bring franklins.
See yeah I'm not one of those people and I don't like it when killer mains lump me into that group. It's annoying asf. Ruin changes sucked initially but in thr long run and now they were amazing. But things are far different from survivors and killers. As a survivor 3 other people can ruin all your efforts and get you killed. As a killer you're relying on yourself. Sandbagging is already back hard asf in red ranks and it's getting worse. I've had so many teammates rat me out because I have BT and they didn't pay attention in lobby.
What I'm saying is no one is about to get decent games for awhile because they'll be extremely quick or long as hell (20 minutes) and it's going to kill the survivor player base even harder. Hell even now a good chunk or survivors have jumped ship due to various reasons I won't be discussing on THESE forums and it's only getting worse.
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I'm upset because this change is encouraging toxic survivor behavior. Now it seems once you get hooked you're dead anyways unless someone has a quest or feels like risking yall getting a regression. Everyone is just going to afk on separate gens all game and run sole survivor from Laurie(or whatever it's called).
You get penalized for coop actions when coop makes up a huge part of survivors scores. No point in hitting greats anymore. And resilience iron will self heal botany knowledge will be the norm since thanataphobia is rampant at high ranks. Couple this with forever Freddy and survivors are just playing for blood points and never to escape meaning were missing out of 5K points every game.
So people just aren't going to do gens since there's no real point and just meme and hold games hostage or suicide on first hook. It's already happening and a few regular DBD streamers are playing other games (both killer and survivors) to avoid the wave of ######### incoming.
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look at this entitled killer
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Get ready for the 4 man stack SWF running DS, Unbreakable, OOO, BT, HeadOn, Bond, Empathy, Adrenaline, Dead Hard, and bringing flashlights.
Solo survivor queue is dead as hell and going in with only on other person is being phased out as well. People are either going to go in to troll and make killers depip (not kidding streamers are doing swf depip squads to make killers de pip hard asf for ending games too fast).
The game is TOO asymmetrical atm and it's catering to killers who can't do basic killer things like moonwalk in a chase.
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@Hopesfall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1194773#Comment_1194773
yup you got me, never played survivor at high ranks ever
Playing P3 Blendette on Play Station. Yikes. Come at me when you play Claudette and you don't need an invisibility perk to make it to red ranks. I'm guessing you take quick and quiet, urban evasion, DS, Dead Hard, Iron Will, Adrenaline, Unbreakable too as well?
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HEAD ON!
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literally just moonwalk once you realize they probably have it. you dont need a perk to counter it, you dont need add ons, you dont need to adjust your gameplay style. literally if you are playing killer and you dont moonwalk in chases already you're not doing basic killer mechanics right.
Edit: Also this is the degree at which spine chill works. Basically you have to be in their red stain cone up to 36 meters. Its basically 15-20/25 degree cone (at max range) I believe when someone did the math on it (can a dev confirm?). Here's a video about how it works. Literally this complaint stems from obviously never playing survivor in high ranks and understanding how easy spinechill is punished outside of chases.
https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/deadbydaylight_gamepedia_en/6/6f/Spine-Chill.mp4
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@raulblideran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1194018#Comment_1194018
leave them alone to do gens? dafuq dude, if I hooked someone else in the mean time I won't let your stupid ass work on a gen in front of me cause you've got a minute to jerk off, sorry but no
if a survivor is bold enough to do a gen in your face that means your prescense as killer is garbage. any killer that is "sweating" no survivor is going to ######### with them after they get their ass handed to them the first time.
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@shane32 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1194018#Comment_1194018
Why do you need to leave sombody alone for 60 seconds. That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If I see you in going for you. My objective is to kill you. Lol leave me alone for 60 seconds
Your job as killer is to please the entity. If you ever bothered to see emblem break down you see that tunneling a survivors hurts your score BIG TIME. You can pip up not killing anyone as long as you exhaust every hook, chase, and palette.
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@Reborn2020 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1194018#Comment_1194018
And go find someone else?You know that takes time ? go find someone else while that ds user is going to do things towards progressing the game for 60 seconds. Thats laughable. AT LEAST if i would know when that timer is off it would be more fair of a perk.
Literally count to 60 or eat the stun that gets negated anyway if you chase them for 20 seconds on any killers. It's not rocket science. And if DS is your biggest issue you're bad at juggling. If it's late game, someone gets hooked, unhooked, and then you get DS'd then yeah its annoying. But if it's late game, you get DS'd, and this happens frequently it means you aren't applying enough pressure throughout the game.
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leave someone alone for 60 seconds. its not that ######### hard.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
You either played in a boring way (like hard camping, hard tunneling, or trying down all four Survivors first before hooking them) or the Survivors are just salty they couldn’t loop you for five gens.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1193839#Comment_1193839
Doctors always running MYC? What kind of Killers are you going up against? Most Doctor builds usually consist of gen perks or the PWYF+Nemesis combo.
I wish I got that. If I get another MYC doctor with Overcharged+Pop Imma scream. IDK if you can even use those perks together but I think you can.
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Because those killers are currently flodding the market and playing against the small killer all the time become monotomous asf. For me personally when I findout it's a deathslinger I just either gen rush him with my friend or let him kill me on hook. It's not so much the killer but more so the playstyle of the people playing and people already knowing what perks the killer is running because every single killer runs those perks.
Freddy: Surveillance
Oni: Infectious Fright
Spirit: Stridor
Doctor: Make Your Choice
Billy: Infectious Fright/Bitter Murmur
Deathslinger: Monitor and Abuse
Ghostface: Make Your Choice
These perks with BBQ and Chili, NoED, Whispers, and Bitter Murmur are so common on all killers it just takes all the fun out of going against a killer because you're forced to play a certain way ALL the time because everyone is pretty much running the same thing with the exception of 1 skill.
The most fun killer I went against recently was a Billy that ran PWYF, Bamboozled, Make Your Choice, and Bitter Murmur. Watching that man NASCAR around the map, getting stacks, and cucking us in chasing and watching him zoom around killer shack to mow us down was the funniest/scariest thing ever. He got the 4K and I was happy he did because we got a good show out of it.
And yeah i get "Survivors are supposed to die. You're not supposed to have fun. It's our job to kill you not entertain you." But remember this is a GAME first and if people aren't having fun they're going to find ways to do so hence why SWF is so popular. And if people aren't having fun due to being tunneled or constantly dealing with a certain play style they're going to run perks to deal with that to attempt to have fun.
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Survivor: Head On
Killer: PWYF or Dying Light
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around the same time myers gets another skin
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A killer can lobby dodge. If they choose to partake in the lobby I feel they should partake in the nonsense. That's like seeing 4 people with the names SpankMeMyers/ChokeMeMyers/MyersISGrandaddeh/MyersIsDaddy and not expect us to start memeing the second we know it's a Myers. At that point be a good sport and play along.
Personally I love people who have killer based names. On person named StepOnMeLegion is so much fun to play with/against and I adore every time they're in game. When there's a Legion is a great laugh, when their isn't she's hell on wheels to deal with as a killer.
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@elvangulley said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1192465#Comment_1192465
Please dont run ds bt adrenaline or use keys because they are carrying survivors bringing up terrible survivors to red ramks
I don't run any of those. The only reason I take borrowed time is on days where I run into too many hook campers.
I take head on self care spine chill and empathy most days. I don't bring in items except a med kit and I only bring that in when I have a feeling I might get a Myers and I want to make friends by giving it to him.
Like you really tried it and I applaud you for that but I'm not another meta whoring survivor. I made it to red ranks solo without running exhaustion perks. And the only reason I started running head on instead of hope or we'll make it is because I think it's funny to watch an oni make the widest turns around lockers because they have PTSD.
So anything else you want to say?
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Of you rely on perks and add ons to be decent with your killers of choice you aren't good at them. That's true is every game.
Ruin and NoED have created a lot of terrible killer habits that are now coming to light. Ruin is actuallybbuffed IF you were already pressuring gems and forcing survivors into unfavorable set ups. Because one ruin is gone you still can run Pop or Overcharge to make escape damn near impossible.
It's the same with BBQ and Cheater. So many killers rely on it and claim they only use it for BP but are now bitching about survivors taking head on and always in lockers and it counters them getting info.
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HA!
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Except when 2 doors spawn on the same wall and a killer can literally stand in one spot and look back and forth between the two by turning around. At that point I don't even attempt to escape. I just sit in a locker and afk waiting on the entity to take me. I used to Sabo hooks and traps for extra points but not much point in do that anymore.
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Just play deathslinger. No one can hear his terror radius.
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not the worst because eve online still exists as well as league but it's a close third
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I don't DC but i motion for a killer to hook me. I just AFK after that. I'm having a ######### day at that point and that was the straw that broke the camel's back and I'm ready to go.
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Yep. That's why I switched to Town of Salem and animal Crossing. Sad to say a ######### browser game has more fear and emotion than a survival game.
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Claudette and Michael. I have my reasons.
if I could free two survivors Claudette and Kate. I just feel like they'd be really good friends and Kate could totally help Claudette out of her shell.
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None because it takes all the fun out of end game chat.
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@GHOSTfaceP3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1188391#Comment_1188391
Noed definitely helped him here..imagine if he didn’t have it tho that game would have been 6 minutes maybe a little less
Yep. But killer need to start understanding in order to draw out games you have to give survivors more than one objective and look at perks in terms of what other actions can they force.
I don't run NoED as killer because I personally don't keep it. The reason I don't need it is because I will slug the obsession or a weak survivor and then carry them away from their team rather than hook unless I can get a secluded hook. I force other survivors to either let them die or waste time picking them up. This also helps me understand who is altruistic so I can use it against them. Ik these will be the survivors going for basement saves and probably have BT.
Yeah NoED is good for getting kills but doesn't give any info on how the survivors behave as killer and that's the most important to me at least. Finding out who is selfish grants me more of an advantage. Because that means the person will let their team stage 2 before they respond even when in the area. So then when I hook them in a secluded spot their team probably won't come get them because they don't want to risk dying or feel they're too selfish and will screw the team over.
Even if they save them they usually avoid them like the plague of of fear of being sandbagged.
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resilience + spine chill + team leader/provethyself/what ever that perk is called...on a person that ignore 80% of the match = easy gens. All of those things stack and it's like a 14/18% boost. Even those few seconds were spine chill activated while you were setting on a get can make of break a game hard. Couple that resilience, the dwight perk, and your team being smart to work together seems about right. Yes you got gens done in 4 minutes but no one did totems in a meta where noed is as guranteed and bbq and chilli hence why the match took 6 extra minutes.
there's literally nothing wrong because gen jocking got balanced out with noed and put you all in positions that were less than optimal constantly. it just did so at the end of game rather than all game. and as a killer you want to force tough situations all game and not just end game so they can have more of a chain reaction.
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I don't have to bring items. Killers are dead set on tunneling me out of game anyway. The only think I bring is a medkit to give Myers a medkit of friendship.
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@NovaliumTS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1187191#Comment_1187191
Yea there should be no way you should be getting red ranks at all but here we are...the thing is i use demogorgon i know hes weak and everything but i use him because hes fun but it totally destroys the fun when my demogorgon isnt suited to playing with a team of rank 1s, like after this match i had many mixed groups after which i got 2-3ks in most of the time.
The one thing is its a team of rank 1s working together which knowing as it was on xbox they all were probably in a party together against a demogorgon which isnt a high end killer at all it just makes it 10x harder for the killer as theres no way to actually beat them
I ended up figuring out about 2 minutes into game who was probably high rank/skill low rank/skill so I tried getting them accordingly. Jane was the red rank that died, also my obsession which I constantly used as bait and was going to let her go free since IK I was honestly abusing tf out of her and being annoying. So in exit gates her and Feng were teabagging but I was saving 99 stalk and I had max pwyf stacks and had eating her DS earlier. I slugged her and took her to basement.
She proceeded to rage and say you only got me because I was closer. I told her yep. Because had been dead harding all game. IK you were going to be cocky at exit gates and that I already decided to let Jane go since I was picking on her so much. I won't lie the win was tough and I couldn't mess around at all. My saving grace was because I'm naturally so annoying anal on gens and survivors get extremely frustrated with doing one or they attempt to commit to the one to "prove a point" so I either get bodied or they all end up on second/death hook for being stubborn.
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meanwhile...not a premade btw.
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@Zaitsev said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1186452#Comment_1186452
Have to 4k for the achievement tho. You and I are having a severe miscommunication issue right now. Tunneling is not fun, and I dont get points for tunneling, so why would I, unless I have a mori, and Im dealing with one toxic surv?
You literally don't have to...In fact tunneling hurts your score much more than anything else.
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@Zaitsev said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1185736#Comment_1185736
Im rank 3 killer atm, I know what Im doing lol.
Its real hard to get merciless killer when
A. Every surv is sweaty
B. Emblem system is broken
It’s really not especially on Doctor. It sounds like it’s either your playstyle or you believe you have to 4K and you’re not actually interacting with survivors, kicking gens, making pressure, and getting people on multiple hooks. You’re probably also tunneling to death. You can literally not get a single kill and double pip in red ranks. So either Doctor’s playstyle doesn’t match your own or you have a lot of bad habits that don’t perform for the sake of the emblem system.
You perform for the system not how you think you should if you want to pip up and get achievements. Actually pay attention to what each emblem looks for and it’s easy. Stop thinking you have to 4K to pip. That’s not how it works.
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@Mtom912 said:
Goes for survivor who recently got off hook
gets dsed
gets annoyed and does it again
me: confusion
The word you’re looking for is insanity. Literally doing the same thing again hoping for a different outcome
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Camping and tunneling are valid strats. All survivors run DS unbreakable and gen rush so it’s the only way to slow games down and get a 4K. Of course you camp hook. People have sprint burst and borrowed time. Why let them get away freely. Besides tunneling isn’t real. Just get good at looping.
/sarcasm
But seriously just wait until you get 4K instaslugged 2 minutes into the game and have a killer chainsaw spam or pick you up to put you on hook and attempt the 4% only to not respect it then Mori spam your body. it’s great
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Yes because moris hold the game hostage while keys are an in and out thing. Mori spamming seems to be back.
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Report after game to get noticed, link a vod if you can as well in end game chat. From what I’ve seen filling out two separate tickets for the same thing slows down the process so it’s best to do it in one place.
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Kills do not ensure you pipping up. Interactions with survivors and your efforts as a killer to slow them down weigh more than forcing a survivor to die. You can pip up with no one dying as long as you were hooking consistently and rotating your victims.
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@NICK714 said:
I could play that 50% is from pc
and 40% is on consoles,
and 10% use either cell phone or switch
and switch players go for things like "smash bros" or something childish xD
Doom Eternal would like to have a word with you
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@Zaitsev said:
Well my friend, I have sad news for you. Adept Killer achievements are almost impossible nowdays, thanks to the shite emblem system
I literally got adept Myers my second time playing him with no add on on Blackswamp against red/purple ranks. It’s not that hard. Learn to constantly adjust to situations, pressure, when to allow saves, and how to force survivors into certain gens. Basic killer 101 stuff. I didn’t get the 4K, only a 2K but I put in so much work and everyone got to next hook death hook.
if I ever pay again I’ll get it on legion. It’s honestly not that hard. If you play survivor you’ll understand much better how survivors operate and therefore how to counter/punish them with base kit.
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everyone earning points versus no one earning points
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imagine being this sad over a 5 second stun that's negated in 13 seconds if you just stay on them...
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Wait until you run into that ones with Make Your Choice with exhaustion add ons.
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I'm alright. Haven't been on DBD, been playing ToS instead. It's a great palette cleanser. I'm not sure if I'm going back to DBD as long as Deathslinger and his current buggy inconsistent terror radius.
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you hurt the killers feelings. bad survivor.
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@Mister_Holdout said:
This entire game feels like punishment.
BIG FACTS.
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This is a killer sided forum so only about 20% of the population will find sympathy in your plights.