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@xenotimebong said:
Oh my god, who cares. Is it annoying when a survivor dcs to give their teammate the hatch? Sure. Does it happen often enough to warrant a three page thread of bickering about it? No.
There’s an in game punishment for dcs, just deal with it and move on.
Why should i "just deal with it" when it's an exploit with that logic the next killer exploit that happens you should just deal with it because who cares?
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@Hippie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1286013#Comment_1286013
D/C'ing for hatch doesn't fall under any of those.... the person who does it certainly doesn't gain anything whatsoever. These definitions apply to a person personally doing something that benefits them that is exploiting an error or bug, such as glitching outside of the map. The person who D/Cs gets absolutely nothing, and is actually penalized for their action. Yes, it somewhat benefits the other Survivor, but it's still at the cost of THEIR points and rank. THEY do not benefit whatsoever from the D/C.
You know, I'm not defending hatch D/C because I think it's right. I personally would never D/C for my teammate to have the hatch (I've actually never D/C'ed in my entire game time), because I think it's dumb and I don't want to lose my points and pips. I'm not really even defending hatch D/C at all. I'm saying that calling it an exploit is wrong, because it's not an exploit. I mean, what if the slugged teammate D/Cs when the alive teammate isn't anywhere near the hatch, but then they find it anyway? Would that still be an "exploit" to you? And I'm not trying to be antagonistic at all, I'm just saying. If they implemented a "give up" option for Survivors who were slugged longer than 60 seconds (with them getting to keep all of their points and the Killer getting compensated), I think hatch D/Cs and slugging for 4ks wouldn't be a thing anymore.
You can't compare slugging to abusing a mechanic im sorry you really cant do so slugging has counterplay which is simple unbreakable what has 0 counterplay is running to a corner and dcing so someone gets hatch to basically negate the hook death animation that seems like an exploit from what the rule says.
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Not at all bud you didn't even prick the top of my skin if anything you showed me how biased one can be in regards to the game you to there bud.
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@Pulvoriser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285998#Comment_1285998
Okay i don't fully understand the youtube part of that, and the exploit statement you've ran into the ground like 100 times. Again, we all know lol
So does the survivor stay in the game so you can kill him and feel good because hes being a good sport and you somehow deserve that kill because whatever reasons?
Disconnect loses pip, loses points, loses bloodpoints that game, its actually like they didnt even play and lost rank.
Also say they for some ungodly reason listened to your selfentitlement rant and placed a 5sec timer for everyone else to make it harder to escape, well how would you balance it out so the survivor can have a fair chance at escaping? Do you have anything is your whole topic one sided only?
You do realize the survivor dying on hook is the same amount of time i suggest the delay be correct? so what would be the difference oh let me guess they wouldn't be able to abuse it anymore being a killer or survivor main means nothing its about being a good sport and trying to add things to promote a better experience for both sides why should the survivor be given a free escape because someone decided to dc so they skip the whole death animation which was put into the game for a reason.
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@DelsKibara said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1286031#Comment_1286031
You know what that flaw would be if it were added into the game?
The same amount of time it takes for a Hooked Survivor to die before the Hatch is opened. DCing removes that short amount of time.
DCing is the equivalent of skipping the whole sacrifice cutscene when you get Death Hook as a Survivor. Which halts opening the Hatch until it ends.
And this right here goes right back to the point they are purposely negating the 5-7 second animation of dying so their friend can have a free escape could not have said it better myself well done.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1286013#Comment_1286013
Do a ticket reporting that survivor for exploiting and we see what happens :)
lmao it's always funny when someone can't prove their points so they quickly rush to change the subject i get it you lost have a good day bud maybe next year.
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But how would they do so if you are both on the ground that means you lost correct so why should you be allowed to dc to prevent the death animation which is 5-7 seconds.
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@Bovinity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285865#Comment_1285865
I mean, we've had this exact thread before. The majority of people agreed that it was perfectly acceptable to disconnect as a survivor if it meant stymieing the killer somehow.
And that's the issue why should it be allowed to screw the killer over because you lost the game.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1286001#Comment_1286001
Again? I already told you the flaws about this, if you just ignore them I will not discuss with you anymore.
You actually never explained the flaw nor did you even prove your point how could it be abused explain.
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@Hippie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285966#Comment_1285966
I know. I was saying it was an "exploit" (mind the quotations) because people were calling the similarly detrimental behavior (hatch D/C) an "exploit". Neither are actually exploits, they're just scummy ways to play.... but if you're going to call one an exploitation of a certain in-game mechanic, then the other is as well.
For example, I played a game against a Doctor who slugged my teammate in the middle area of Azarov's Resting Place, and proxy-camped them. Picking them up off the ground wasn't a possibility. The game went on for 3 minutes after she was initially slugged, with me hiding on the right side of the map. Meanwhile, the Doctor knew where the hatch was (LEFT side of the map), and immediately shut it after she bled out. I wouldn't call that ending the game "naturally", because it was a huge waste of time for me and my teammate. The "natural ending" would have been him hooking my teammate, shutting the hatch and triggering EGC for an actual ending. Not 4 minutes of waiting around while my teammate is getting camped to death on the ground.
But, in the end, discussing it really doesn't matter. You can't keep a Killer from slugging for the 4k, and you can't keep a Survivor from D/C'ing for their teammate to get the hatch (especially since they're already getting punished with loss of BPs and pip), since neither are necessarily against the rules.
But it is actually against the rules though lmao?
EXPLOITS: ABUSING BUGS OR ERRORS IN DESIGN TO GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE
- Advertising exploits
- Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage
- In-game report REQUIRED / Customer Support ticket OPTIONAL
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285983#Comment_1285983
You wanna know what's the counterplay? moving on cause 3k is enough for pips if that's your problem.
And we can say this discussion isn't going anywhere, the fix you bring to the table is abusable and not fair, so there's no point on discussing it
You wanna know what the counterplay should be a delay so the killer is not punished because of someone else's actions as its a 4v1 game well if there is no reason to continue then move along stop commenting LMAO bye?
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@Pulvoriser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285965#Comment_1285965
I'm not baiting, I'm asking you legit questions that you dodge. Dont. Mistake me for an entitled survivor, I'm a killer main. However! I don't see how your complaint about the dc is fair to actual people who play the game.
Yeah, dc is against the rules, we all know that, and we've all pointed out in multiple posts the downfall of dcing, I'll do it again
No points earned!
Depip
Time out!!!!
Those are your 3 major disadvantages to being a quitter, be it tactical or not, because I'm gonna tell you right now, there isn't anything tactically rewording by being the last survivor because someone else had to lose it all. That's escaping a Slaughter and there isn't any satisfaction in it. If a killer takes down 3 people that's a win.
So my question is
A: do you understand the person dcing is being punished
B: was the 4th kill that game changing to you?
I'll make fun if entitled survivors all day, but there are definitely entitled killers too. Don't be that killer
Yes youtube is a punishment lmao
Again it's against the rules to abuse exploits so actually yes it is.
entitled lmao
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@SnakeSound222 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285837#Comment_1285837
You and five other people are seriously defending DCs?
MY POINT EXACTLY. This is what the developers get in their feedback is people like this saying its totally fine no problems what so ever while they likely openly abuse it lmao.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285975#Comment_1285975
But they get a penalty.
And if we talk about fairness in this game than it is subjective, cause I can easily say slugging isn't fair
and? they still exploited which is against the games rules? also you really can't say its unfair as theres things in the game to counter it? dude you are not going to win this trust me i know the rules unlike you lmao.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285973#Comment_1285973
Again, you contradict yourself.
We could easily say slugging is exploit cause you extend the game (aka taking the game hostage) and yes it says it isn't allowed and they added something to punish them: DC penalty and if they do it too much they will get a perma ban in the next ban wave.
You really can't it has counters which dcing to give hatch does not also you cant take the game hostage by slugging the survivor will bleed out meaning the game will end regardless so therefore you are not really a hostage try again.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285965#Comment_1285965
"i dont agree with you so that means what you're saying is a bait and you dc so i can't get my 4k"
No i don't agree with him because he's trying to bait me into following his discussion about "my thoughts on keys and hatch" which are not what the post is dicussing.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285962#Comment_1285962
So basically, if people can get banned by dcing, why we keep complaining here....?
What you said literally fixes this whole entire drama
Because a mechanic is being abused in the game to gain a free escape which in the rules says is not allowed.
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@DelsKibara said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285931#Comment_1285931
If the Killer is slugging, he risks the other Survivor coming in for the rescue.
If the Killer is slugging, he risks the slugged Survivor bleeding out and die before he could find either the Hatch or the other Survivor.
If the Killer is slugging, the game will end normally with the slugged Survivor bleeding out.
Nothing is being exploited there, because the game will end naturally.
Either by the Slugged Survivor bleeding out, by the Killer finding the Other Survivor, by the Other Survivor rescuing the Slugged Survivor, or by the Other Survivor escaping and leaving the Slugged Survivor to die with a key.
THANK YOU that is a great point how do i pin this comment?
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@Pulvoriser said:
If a random disconnects that's on them, do you honestly expect the last guy to walk up to you and stand there so you can have your 4k because someone they dont even know killed themselves? Are you that conceited?
If you have a chance to escape you do it, if you have a chance to kill that person you do it. If you cant you move on.
I'm guessing you'd probably have alot to say about people who all escape with keys too? Because that's annoying as hell but it's an option lol
lmao bro you are trying to bait and its just not going to work my issue is not with keys my issue is not with hatch my issue is tactical dc's being allowed when in the rules it clearly says abusing mechanics is not allowed and it also says dcing is not either.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285949#Comment_1285949
And what about you're using your salty brain and moving on?
Dont you seem the flaws of this which would punish innocent survivor?
lmao i could say the exact same thing about you.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285925#Comment_1285925
Cause it would punish innocent people like DC penalty do (game crashes etc)
But keep doing your guessing big brain arguments I guess.
How would it punish innocent people oh because they wouldn't be able to get their free escape anymore? and they would have to actually earn it instead of having it spoonfed to them by their buddies and or unsportsmanlike players?
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285914#Comment_1285914
Than I really dont know what else you watch, those people are not allowed to play for 5 min, do you want them to get a 24h ban only cause you didn't get your 4k? you seem pretty butt hurt imo.
And you didn't answer my questions, why would I answer you?
You are missing the point holy crap bro I actually can't WHAT im saying is there should be a delay in which that time a survivor ontop of the hatch can not escape after someone disconnects it create more fairness around the mechanic and stops tactical dcing now with that being said use your eyes which you claim are bleeding and read.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285907#Comment_1285907
So why do you say it is a exploit?
You're logic makes my eyes bleed.
Someone is dcing so that someone else can have a free escape imagine if a killer could do something like that and get credit for something they didnt earn would you agree that would be a problem?
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285911#Comment_1285911
Than if people dont care about rank, why you're complaining about a kill when a 3k is clearly a win?
Again i dont care about how many kills i got i care about fairness it seems you don't because you have showed that throughout this conversation dcing to give hatch is abusing the mechanic regardless of how you look at it.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285897#Comment_1285897
No, why would it bother you when a survivor depips, gains 0 bps and gets a 5 min penalty?
And this is punishing the survivor for a troll team mate. so that's a no for me
And no, I dont DC to give hatch, im not gonna wait 5 min to play a game again :)
So if you don't do it then why would it bother you that there would be a cooldown on it? Let me guess because people wouldn't be able to dc for you lmao.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285900#Comment_1285900
Than basically this discussion isn't going anywhere cause if you really want a constructive discussion you would fix it so both sides dont have to be punished.
What you said is "I would rather it being abusable to the other side instead"
Actually you are the one not being constructive you are telling me that im not a dev so therefore i can't have an opinion on it so how about this when you can come up with a great conversation on this come back and post but so far you have failed to do so.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285891#Comment_1285891
And as I said before, those people are getting punished.
By Punished do you mean them sitting in their chair watching youtube chilling for 5 minutes im sorry that's not a punishment answer my question though do you dc to give hatch
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@Pulvoriser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285881#Comment_1285881
Why punish someone else for the actions of someone who is willing losing everything anyways. You do realize they get no points and lose rank if they DC right?
Also if it takes 5sec for a hatch open then maybe dev's need to add a 50% wiggle progress for the last survivor since we both know as killer mains you basically are taking one of their only escape options away. No ones gonna get that game open if you're a good killer
Why punish the killer for someones action also people dont care about rank people dont care thats the issue here.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285892#Comment_1285892
You're not a dev to say what's exploiting or not.
And as I said, people have been complaining before and if devs didn't fix this is because it is intended to them.
I mean you're not a developer either so you can't really say its not exploiting then cant you? again your logic is hurting you.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285888#Comment_1285888
And you already said it, the survivors that dc gets a penalty, what do people want? if they make it so the hatch opening delay when someone dc this could easily be abused by a troll survivor dcing just to deny you hatch
I mean that should be how it works also you just said it yourself they get penalty right so why would it bother you? also how could it be abused when only one person can get hatch all that would happen is when someone would dc to try to give hatch the killer would have up to 7 seconds to find the survivor on the ground that seems fair to me.
Imma take a wild guess you dc to give hatch right?
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285878#Comment_1285878
Are you a dev to say what's intended or not? this has been in game for years and devs know it and if it wasn't intended this would already be fixed.
Still butthurt about the jake escaping?
Hey bud go read the rules and pay very close attention to the part that says it's against the rules to exploit which includes mechanics also read the part about dcing as well and then come back when you have educated yourself also i dont care about the nea escaping what i do care about is fairness and sportsmanship which this community is starting to lack because the developers let things like this slide when its in their own rule set that exploiting mechanics is against the rules.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285873#Comment_1285873
If you see X survivor you can easily close the hatch instantly, and closing hatch has priority to the killer
What about taking your 3k and moving on? I have been robbed from a lot of escapes than to VPNing killers and I dont complain about it and make a whole thread about it.
How can i close the hatch when jake runs a good distance away and dc's explain again use logic.
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@Pulvoriser said:
If they dc they have to wait and get nothing for that game so who's the biggest loser here? You or 1 person who manages to escape because someone decides to literally lose it all?
Sorry but the hatch is fine as it is, as a killer I generally find the hatch before they do anyway, if you dislike someone escaping, slug them, chase and down the other then go close the hatch. That's your strategy as a killer to keep someone from escaping
If you can't understand how it's abusing a mechanic then we have nothing more to discuss.
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@nancybestgirl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1285865#Comment_1285865
I never said it isn't fine, I said it is boring and isn't fun for anyone.
And how do you it isn't allowed to disconnect when you lose all bps, depip and get a 5min penalty? and if it wasn't intended devs would remove the dc option or would fix this a long time ago.
No one is saying dcing is not intended but what its not intended for is dcing because you lost at a game so you have to borderline cheat so someone escapes dcing was intended for important things happening not because you lost also unbreakable.
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@nancybestgirl said:
If you're complaining about it you were slugging for the 4k.
Why complaining when you're using such boring mechanic to make the game miserable and even more long to everyone? take your 3k and move on, you're not entitled to nothing.
Ah yes another typical how dare the killer try to win. Hey bud riddle me this when i down the nea and saw the last gen pop am i suppose to ignore the fact i can see jake because "slugging" is boring or would the smart play be to go for jake. Be very mindful and use actual common sense or will you continue to read out of the survivor rule book.
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@brokedownpalace said:
Oh no, not my 4k! 😱
See this is the people the developers see talk on the forums and even take feedback from people who can't openly understand what the true meaning of exploiting is sad.
It's not about 4king even though i actually earned it but it's about the principal of the game people want both sides to be treated fairly plus its openly abusing the hatch mechanic in general its not like im asking for a delay in general im asking for one because certain people don't have good sportsmanship but this has been an ongoing problem that the developers claimed this timer would fix which it didn't honestly if you cant take that serious then you really shouldn't have commented.
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@metalklok said:
truetalent said hes talked to the multiple devs about this and if its an exploit and some say it is an exploit and some say it aint but they all said that they are not gonna fix it anytime soon.
Of course they aren't im not shocked because to them its probably not that big of a deal but hey man remember this if a killer could do something like that instant ban wave or immediate hotfix.
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When only 7.5% of the playerbase is prestige 3 that means people are not finding it worth to prestige anymore so im all for a reward for prestiging in regards to devotion they said on stream they have no plans for it at the moment.
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This kinda seems silly to fear people who payed for skins lmao some people just enjoy buying outfits so short answer no you should not at the end of the day it just means they supported the game.
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I mean no one is forcing you to prestige it has and always will be your choice if you don't want the prestige clothing cool just play the game normally without prestiging.
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What you need to paste in the engine.ini document
[/Script/Engine.GarbageCollectionSettings]
r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing=0
What you need to paste in the engine.ini file which you can find by localappdata>deadbydaylight>saved>config>windowsnoeditor
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@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1279657#Comment_1279657
Wdym with they can't yet? They have obviously plans right? And it's not a big deal to announce how many and what settings we will get. It's not like revealing a new licenced killer lol
Im just saying what they said on stream they said they could not go into to much detail.
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I think i found your problem as someone who use to be a prestige claudette main i use to really like her bloody outfit but i found myself being sandbagged a lot the issue is the hate that has been built around that cosmetic most people think blendettes only hide but when i used it i got a lot of praise for actually doing gens and knowing how to loop the killer.
Not saying i didnt get my fair share of hate i had people purposely dodge my lobby because they claimed i was "A ######### blendette who wouldn't touch gens" even though i use to only play survivor to get the killers attention to the point i ran OOO on blendette lmao.
With that being said theres a stereo type thats been built around prestigette and nothing will change that sadly the best thing you can do is change outfits or just find a swf's to play with.
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For right now everyone is going to get the setting as for extra settings they didn't go into to much detail as they can't yet.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1279644#Comment_1279644
I just wait out and see.
But I guarantee there will be Threads complaining about how low the Prestige Rewards are.
Oh for sure and i bet even the developers know that ahead of time you can't please everyone.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1279608#Comment_1279608
They will not screw over those people who have already prestiged.
It will be a minor reward tho, maybe just a Charm. So I would not have high expectations.
Hey who knows these could be a new set of prestige skins we'll just have to wait and see the hype around prestige variations has been around since legacy ended it wouldn't shock me if the developers were looking to add more skins to the pool of prestige and maybe more who knows
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@brokedownpalace said:
I would hope that anyone who is already prestiged before the reward update would get the rewards. It would be super lame otherwise.
Most likely with the move to servers it makes it a lot easier to track prestige's and i would assume it would be able to know if a character has been p3'd
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That's anti aliasing you can turn it off there is an ingame option coming but for now i believe its safe to link a video on how to do it
Video link-https://youtu.be/xOzwfXsxGfY?t=152
What you need to paste in the engine.ini document
[/Script/Engine.GarbageCollectionSettings]
r.DefaultFeature.AntiAliasing=0
This will make your game look a lot better and less straining on your eyes.
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@caz_ said:
in the Q&A stream there was a question about getting rewards for prestiging
and the devlopers said there will be something in the future. because im trying to get all my survivor and killers to P3 right now just wondering if i should wait? or did they mean something else with prestige rewards?
I would p3 the characters you really like for now wait until they announce what these rewards are and if they happen to be skins i would go through and continue p3ing something tells me these prestige rewards won't be timed like legacy was i could be wrong on that.
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The developers already addressed this on the stream window hits are meant to be in the game however hits where you are mile away are not with that being said they are going to work on a new system that will detect if the hit makes sense if it does boom the killer hits if not the killer won't hit.