Marioneo

Nobody liked the knight changes except the hunt time and banner time increase multiplier

in Knight’s PTB to Live is absolutely absurd, and sets a bad precedent for future reworks Comment by Marioneo July 21, 2024

Faster teleport during daytime.

Rework his antiloop can't be buffed without him getting a guaranteed free.

Malthinkers skull basekit

in How would you improve 'The Dredge' via buff or QOL improvements? Comment by Marioneo July 21, 2024

Modernize all old hex perks to be like new hex perks they don't light until the condition is triggered

Ruin = lights when a survivor progresses a gen

Devour hope = lights when the first survivor is hooked

in A possible buffer for Hex Perks? Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

Whats the punishment for Harassment? I got feedback reports but idk what the severity of the punishment is

in People in this game are going way too far Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@danielmaster87 said:
I'm pretty sure there's just enough time to get the save, if you dodge 1 shock.

If doc aint running any widening addons good luck dodging that

in Doctor can infinitely prevent hook saves Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@ChaosWam said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3759458#Comment_3759458
You mean Scourge Hook: Monstrous Shrine?

Yeah like that

in Do you all think killer side will get perks that utilize the basement incantation circle? Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@ChaosWam said:
Like how we have Boons and Hexes, a subset of perks for killer to receive some kind of buff for going to the circle? And what would even be good ideas for going out of your way to do it?

Best were gonna get is basement scrouge hook perks

in Do you all think killer side will get perks that utilize the basement incantation circle? Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@GoodBoyKaru said:
He's always been able to do this, it's very sadly nothing new, and despite being raised quite literally since he used to have Treatment Mode and Punishment Mode in his kit (as well as passive madness) nothing had ever been done. I guess it's because he's just not very popular so nobody really knows about it?

@Choaron said:
He always could, buddy.

And the latest buffs he got made it even more easier to do

in Doctor can infinitely prevent hook saves Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@ChaosWam said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3759170#Comment_3759170
THAT is what bothers me the most.

I don't mind if survivors can juke guards now, it makes counterplay interesting, but removing the ability to cancel guards with a new one when they put in the ability to switch which guard you want and give them cooldowns? It makes no sense, all of those worked so well together and had a good flow of cooldown management.

@danielmaster87 said:
It was never going to work out as long as the guards still don't know how to go through a pallet. Their pathing kills their potential.

@Vorahk08 said:
I feel like they don't know what to do with Knight and are just going to revisit him sometime in the future. Looking over the changes/patch notes, this patch really feels like the goal was "quality of life" changes. All they did was make part of Map of the Realm and Pillaged Mead basekit, give the Carnifex's chase power to the Jailer, and add the ability to manually swap between guards. Then, they heavily nerfed the anti-loop guard strategy.
Almost all of these are changes that have been asked for before, including nerfing guards at loops, given how many survivors dislike the strategy. There's no big buffs or new changes to his power.
In general, the devs seem to have trouble balancing killer AI units. Nemesis Zombies have had horrible pathing for years and nothing has been done about it. I'm hoping they're planning on doing a larger Knight rework, but that could take a while.

@Caiman said:
Knight is a dead killer now. Better move on to someone BHVR likes more, like Skull Merchant.

@Blueberry said:
Yup.
With how much unanimous feedback was received to keep the guard cancel bug I was at least expecting to get that as a compensation for all the nerfs. That would've offset some of this. Some..

@Neaxolotl said:
Meanwhile singularity having "middle ground" due to feedback
BHVR has two different kind of balancing teams I guess, at the very least

I encourage y'all to play the new meta for Knight pallet eater Carnifex show the guaranteed free hits you get that's even more free then scamper Chucky

Show them real frustration

in Devs ignored Knight feedback Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@ReverseVelocity said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3759186#Comment_3759186
They have quite clearly said that they're not happy with how Skull Merchant is at the moment.

They can say they ain't happy all they want but confirming she ain't getting changed till next year is criminal

in Devs ignored Knight feedback Comment by Marioneo July 14, 2024

@Laluzi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3758344#Comment_3758344
Only Trapper, Wraith, Billy, Nurse, and Huntress are in the mode. Though they've said they plan on adding more killers later, I don't know if that will ever include licenses (given usage in different modes is evidently a problem given the absence of all licensed content in My Little Oni.)

I'm just calling this now when they add the rest of the killers Legion and Plague are gonna be S Tier in this mode

in General 2v8 Strategies? Comment by Marioneo July 12, 2024

@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3757995#Comment_3757995
Yeah, I imagine the hooking takes like 1 seconds or so… I would imagine there are still flashlight and pallet saves? If so, there must still be a "pick-up" mechanic that then throws survivors on hook ala the remote hooks in the event.
Of course Saboing is not a thing… so maybe flashlights and pallet saves won't be a thing either…. in which case I would probably expect some kind of anti-tunneling mechanism.

No I genuinely don't think there will be saves of any kind. Pickup mechanic is completely gone so I assume pallets and flashlights will just be used while looping cause I think in testing they had to remove the pickup mechanic and remove saves cause having 8 fly's buzzing for saves would be SO unfun

I rewatched the trailer killer just does the boon snuff animation on the survivor and blood engulfs them they pop out in a cage.

Finally I believe that the only anti tunnel will just be a second chance perk in the preset classes

in General 2v8 Strategies? Comment by Marioneo July 11, 2024

@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3757766#Comment_3757766
Thankfully I doubt that'll work... 7 survivors unaccounted for? Even 20s to down hook and walk anywhere is gonna be a lot of time to waste 😅

Didn't the 2v8 trailer show there wasn't hooks killers just tp survivors to cages like pyramidhead when downed?

Also camping might be harder cause of the cages and 6 survivors cranking gens who knows survivors could have tied lives for all we know to prevent tunneling

in General 2v8 Strategies? Comment by Marioneo July 11, 2024

@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3755357#Comment_3755357
To be fair, some of the stuff on the Twins PTB really did need to not hit live, there were some serious balance concerns there.
Which leads me to believe the same prrrooobably won't happen with Skull Merchant? Unless they actually pull a Twins and what they work on ends up being very unbalanced.

i say 60% it will happen again

in Bad Day for people who want SkullMerchant Nerfed Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3755127#Comment_3755127
Weak != fun.
For example, Legion is not strong, but is certainly not a pleasant experience to play against. Same with Knight.
There are Killers who are oppressive, like Nurse, whose strength creates unfun matches. That is not the only way to be unpleasant though.

Nurse is the original prime example of unfun why havent they reworked her power? She ignores everything except flash saves shes Stier unlike knight and legion rework her make her have to break pallets and Vaults make it so she cant TP through walls then buff her when shes weak

in Bad Day for people who want SkullMerchant Nerfed Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@KaTo1337 said:
Every killer is viable, but some of them are more viable then others.
A Trapper will never become as strong as a Blight, because Map Mobility is the most important thing a killer has - or has not. As long as Pallets dont respawn, its always about depleting the enviroment as fast as possible.

The problem is survivors want unexhaustible tiles like Vaults like badham and garden of joy

@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754960#Comment_3754960
Don't forget, that DBDs posterboy is "in a good spot right now". Everytime I play him, I am so frustrated and quickly resort to unsanitary tactics and changing killer next game.

This is why i stopped playing trapper and only play Killers whos power isnt controlled by survivors

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@jesterkind said:
It's a pretty ominous sign for everyone, but I'm crossing my fingers it won't be too bad. The way I see it, there are three broad directions this rework could go, and while none of them will actually address the problem (because the problem is "people don't like her" and their reasons aren't actually moored in anything real about her power for the most part), ONE of them would be a good thing in general.
The three directions I see this going are:
1: They completely gut her power with a series of huge nerfs. Nobody will be happy with this; people who like her get their killer ruined, and the people who hate her aren't going to suddenly reverse course because she's a bad killer now.
2: They do another huge overhaul that fundamentally changes her power, like the change that got us to her current kit. This probably won't make people stop hating her - the previous rework didn't despite fixing all her issues and adding very few appreciable new ones - and it'll suck for the people who like her. Small chance it's also an improvement and people who like her now will still like her afterwards, but it'd still suck to lose her current design.
3: They address the problems her kit ACTUALLY has with a fairly large number of individually somewhat small changes. This is what I'm hoping for, but y'know, it obviously won't fix the problem on its own since her actual problems rarely come up in complaint threads. Since this would include "drop something at loop, survivor runs away", it would at least help, so it's worth pursuing as an option from BHVR's standpoint, but it's not as though most people fully understand even that problem, so. Y'know.
Any one of these options would probably take time, so I'm not too surprised by the timeframe we've been given. There's no way Merchant is a super high priority, and changes take time even disregarding that.
Our best hope, whichever option the devs go for, is that the fire kind of fizzles out and everyone moves on to complain about something else so we can finally be free of this exhausting discourse. I'm not holding my breath, but it's a hope.

i think its gonna be the 4th option Twins rework option: Takes months of reworking and push to ptb, people will never like skullmerchant and complain, Entire rework gets scrapped with months of work gone, Skullmerchant remains the same and is back of line to get changes now

in Bad Day for people who want SkullMerchant Nerfed Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Deathstroke said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754775#Comment_3754775
Infinite tier 3 is good

Calling it now when his updates comes all his addons are getting changed and modernized infinite tier 3 and Mirror especially for being to problematic.

Now its nothing but Stalk speed/Stalk movement speed and Haste addons/status effects

in Does no one play regular Myers anymore? Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Neaxolotl said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754953#Comment_3754953
And I definitely won't deny it, considering all that new killers, pretty much all of them have 2 or 3 powers with their main power
Also pretty much all of them has to be 4.6, too

Yeah im starting to think M1 killers need to be 4.7 for like Trapper and a few others. That or Trapper can just throw traps that auto setup

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

its fine Do you just want 4 slowdowns?

in Still no plans to nerf weave attunement? Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@VantablackPharaoh91 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754815#Comment_3754815
I am curious then. How would you fix the issue posited in this thread? Do you think it's one at all?

ill say a hot take its cause survivors always want a safe zone If theres ever a deadzone they cry about map balance. Pallet and window chaining is to strong every 10 meters has a pallet or vault.

Maybe if Devs dont add 30 pallets on big maps and put 30 meters between each loop it'd balance it out but no gotta have no deadzones even if you waste the entire map resources

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Neaxolotl said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754890#Comment_3754890
I mean, we have ranged killers with teleport like unknown and alien, weird anti loop killers with teleport/fast moving like liches and dredge, camera killers with teleport like singularity, stealth killers with mobility is a onryo/wraith,
I don't think they are just copies of each other, I just think most new killers will get a power AND mobility nowadays

thats kinda telling that new killers need 1 main powers and 2 side powers just to keep up in current dbd

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Yharwick said:
I mean Cenobite doesn't really have mobility but is still good because his 4v1 pressure is insane against soloQ teams. I think that's the real issue is very few killers have actual good 4v1 and we need more killers that can bother multiple survivors at once.

his passive chainhunt is good but his chain power is hot garbage

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Blueberry said:
I don’t think they necessarily have to have mobility. What they need is map pressure, that is what they’re getting from map mobility. You could hypothetically have a killer with no map mobility if they had like a built in game slow down that put survivors on side objectives. This would give them pseudo map pressure. Think Pig with her traps, but if her stealth and ambush were actually good.

Either Mobility to pressures gens fast enough, Stalling/slowdown to survivors from progressing gens, Hindred/instadown to down survs faster then gens

in It's sad that Killer design now always gotta include a strong mobility ability to be viable Comment by Marioneo July 5, 2024

@Caiman said:
I want to see Skull Merchant reworked to focus on her being a stealthy tracker. You don't know where she is, but she knows where you are. But making that work with the drone concept is going to be difficult. Maybe if it was like a radar ping system where she could ping to find survivors in her drones' areas but the ping had a cooldown? I'm afraid I don't have many good ideas on how to improve her.

That was the original skull merchant before she got reworked but she was so bad