Konnor24

Happens to me too. The amount of salt i get when playing myers, in tier 3, downing someone, picking them up only for someone to run in and try flashlight save until i down them cause i cant go blind.

A lot on this game have some pathetic entitled attitude that their plans should work and if they dont, then the killer is terrible at the game and should run "real" perks.

Just enjoy their salt, point and laugh at them. Even when they say they're not triggered, you know they are.

in Just got salt because of Lightborn Comment by Konnor24 August 7, 2021

@Damarus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2392949#Comment_2392949
Still comparing things that aren't even remotely close, I see. Guess it is difficult to come up with a valid point, when you can't think of any. Dead Hard. A perk that doesn't even work properly the vast majority of the time, and that at the very least (when it does), requires you to be close to a pallet and look at where you're gonna be doing it, while simoultaneously keeping an eye on the killer. And if there is no pallet and you use it anyway, the killer will have wasted what, two seconds? Oh, noes! Not to mention that only people who just bought the game do not wait for it happen before striking, nowadays. Doesn't take that much skill, nothing to say on that. But the skill it requires is still enormous, compared to a NOED, the Spirit of perks. I have to say, though, that I like how you people try to phrase stuff in order to suit your purposes. "If anyone approaches the killer". Yup, killers are not, at all, moving faster than survivors in this game. And they don't either move faster thanks to tunneling and NOED's activation. Nah, let's just skip that part, right? After all, cows enter slaughterhouses because they want to become meat, isn't it? I don't see this discussion going anywhere worthwhile. Not with you, at least. So let's just end this here, shall we? You'll keep being a killer and I'll keep trying to look at the game from both perspectives, as it should be.
I'll just leave you with a list of perks that do the work in the killer's stead, so you'll have something to think about. Maybe.
A Nurse's Calling: Did you lose a survivor? Is a survivor that you aren't even chasing anymore busy healing himself/being healed from others? Do not fear, now you can see their auras from a range that is bigger than that of their screams of pain. Just look around, dinner's served.
BBQ & Chili: Having trouble doing something as basic as patrolling the place where survivors should be, gens? No worries, BBQ is here to find them for you. And if you don't see one or two, you know they are more than likely close to the hooked guy, so you can even camp him. But wait, I can already see you saying that you use it for the Bloodpoints, right?
NOED: No need to explain this. I like to think that, at the very least, those who use NOED do so because, like those who play Ash on R6, or with the VMP on CoD Black Ops, do so because they are aware they suck. Because if they thought to be skilled, well... The joke of the century would not be able to stand up to them.
Ruin: Kicking gens for you, regressing them at double the speed. You don't even need to perform the damage interaction anymore. And before you say anything, because I know you would, it is needed. Doesn't change the fact that it does your work for you.
Infectious Fright: Same as BBQ, though to a lesser extent.
Haunted Grounds: Mini, early game NOED.
Spirit Fury: After 2 pallets destroyed from you, the next one will be for free. Pair Enduring with it and you get a FREE hit.
Rancor: Get to know where all survivors are when a gen is completed, along with an inastadown AND mori on your obsession, when the last generator is repaired.
Devour Hope: This requires you to actively gain tokens for it, but when you do, it eliminates the double hit mechanic AND gives you, potentially, a first hook mori.
Iron Maiden: Again, another perk to give away the survivor's location, without direct involvement from you.
Dragon's Grip: Again, another perk that does give away the fact that A) The survivor is on a gen: B) He is now an instadown: C) You now know his general location.
Make Your Choice: Same as above.
Surveillance: Get told when a gen that was regressing is stops doing so. Hence, you are communicated that survivors are now on it.
Discordance: You now know not only what generator is being worked on, but are also given the location of TWO survivors.
Corrupt Intervention: Want to get a head start? We got you. Generators will be blocked as soon as the round starts.
I'm All Ears: Survivors that run near you will be shown to you even if you had NO IDEA they were there. Perhaps they were on the other side of a wall and you couldn't see nor hear them. Not a problem, let the game help you.
Thrilling Tremors: Want to know which generators are being worked on/where some survivors are when you pick someone up? Here you go.
Surge: Down survivors near gens, have them kicked for you.
Deathbound: Once survivors heal far from you, you will know where they are AND they won't hear you coming.
Thrill Of The Hunt: Want to know when survivors are cleansing totems, making them require more time to do it? Have at it, you don't need to be aware of them doing so, the game tells you.
Crowd Control: Vaults will be blocked, without you doing so with Bamboozle, when survivors fast vault them.
Hoarder: Get notificated when survivors start interacting with chests, giving you their location.
Undying: Same as above, but you get to keep your Ruin this time. Double the game working for you.
Lethal Pursuer: You now know where all survivors are as soon as the match starts.
Whispers/Spies From The Shadows: As many other perks, gives you the survivor's location without you having any direct involvement in it.
Bloodlust: Not even a perk, which is already powerful on its own, yet it rewards you for doing one of the most controversial things in the game, tunneling.
Of course, this is just a list of the perks that play the game for you, without taking into account how much each of them is used or how stronger some perks are compared to others. It's just a pretty exhaustive list of perks that make your life much easier, without you having any direct involvement in those things, or very little at best. As I said, let's not keep this going. Whatever you might have to say, just spare it. Or if you do, be aware that I am not even going to bother reading it anymore. Good day to you.

Thank you very much for proving my point and showing yourself up because this essays worth of writing is consisting of mostly absolute nonsense and the fact you even said "i guess its difficult to come up with a valid point when you cant think of any" is total hypocrisy considering the amount of rubbish you proceed to write.

The only thing in this essay you have written that is true is about this going nowhere, because you clearly have paid no attention to what i have said earlier so allow me to recap very simply for you.

I am not a killer main. I play both equally. Thus i can see things from both perspectives. You claim to be seeing things from both but you're not. You are just launching a diatribe of nonsense towards killers.

The whole point of these discussions were, NOED is very easily countered, as is almost every single perk you have listed in this tirade of a post. But for some reason you just will not accept that, and will not accept that while i AGREE NOED is a second chance stupid perk, so are varius other survivor perks. Both sides have perks like that. But you wont see that and only see it from a survivor point of view. Each of your arguments have been countered by me, or others in this discussion but still, you just wont have it and your ego will now refuse to let it go.

And i dont care if you read or not, others will and they too will see you are talking utter garbage and have no clue on anything thats being discussed in this topic. So i thank you for proving me, and others right, and not replying anymore because it'll save everyone from feeling that little bit stupider for reading the crap you come out with.

in Why is the community so up in arms about noed? Comment by Konnor24 July 31, 2021

@Damarus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2384606#Comment_2384606
Adrenaline gets activated when all 5 gens have been completed. Sure, you might not have worked on said gens. But if, as you said, you kept the killer busy for all of the match...I'd say you have quite deserved it, probably more than those working on gens. It's not the same thing as NOED, not even in the slightest. Then again, I wouldn't be against more conditions to activate both, even though I'd gladly see NOED simply removed. The biggest (and not the only) difference, though, is that Adrenaline doesn't guarantee you will survive. NOED will guarantee you kills more than likely, as you are bound to have survivors scared of going down and leaving the moment they see the noob... erm, the killer has NOED, or they will try being altruistic and take the place of the previously hooked guy. You don't simply get instadowns, you even get increased move speed. NOED could simply be renamed Hex: Let the game play for you.
And if you think that a mere 15 seconds of chase is a "long" time... I don't know how you perceive time. Because on lots of maps, Bloodlust 1 does make a tremendous difference, and allows hits that shouldn't have been a thing (along with those that already should not be a thing, like being hit from the other side of a dropped pallets or when you are 50m away from a vaulted window).

Keeping a killy busy doesnt mean you deserve an extra chance when you finally do go down. And as someone stated, Noed still requires you to find and hit someone. Noed does not guarantee kills either. It increases your chance you will get 1 or a few hooks. If anyone else is dumb enough to approach a killer while noed is active then quite frankly, they dont deserve to go down in two hits. Dont play dumb and you'll live.

If as you say survs leave, then thats what...1 kill? or 1 extra kill. Most killers will camp after that, so people can easily go and find the totem and totally cancel it. You have made no valid point in what you said about Adrenaline and if anything just reaffirms the belief that Noed and Adrenaline are pretty much the same type of undeserving 2nd chance perks. And that remark about let the game play for you. Well...Dead Hard. Thats all ill say to that.

In regards to bloodlust ill just say, i dont have many issues with it when im playing survivor. If you know how to loop then BL isnt a huge deal. You should be looping a pallet by the time BL starts, and during that loop you can waste excessive amounts of time for the killer. Doing it fairly well will result in a pallet going down and then the killer has 2 choices. Chase round and round for another waste of time, or break the pallet and lose bloodlust. Either way the survivor is buying more time for his team, which is what a survivor being chased is meant to do. BL was put into the game at a time when there were maps/layouts which made it almost impossible to catch up. Nowadays the layouts aren't as heavy sided towards survivors, but there are still multiple places on maps, sometimes next to each other where things such as jungle gyms where chases just seem endless and you either waste a lot of time or give up and go after someone else after probably already investing quite a lot of time on that chase.

in Why is the community so up in arms about noed? Comment by Konnor24 July 29, 2021

@Damarus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2378422#Comment_2378422
Adrenaline is a perk that activates only when all gens have been completed. And to complete all of the gens, you must work on them, your objective as a survivor. If you completed all of the gens, you get rewared for completing your objective. As a killer, NOED rewards you for NOT completing your objective, which is far different. And, on the plus side, Adrenaline is an exhaustion perk with a 60 seconds timer. Which means that, for 60 seconds, your DH will be gone. If the killer is chasing you at that time, Adrenaline will only make the chase slightly longer. As per Dead Hard, check what I wrote above. And again, remember, Bloodlust isn't a perk. Yet all killers have it. Blast Mine isn't as good as killers would like to make people think. It only does something if you kick gens when it is activated. If you get there too late, it's wasted. If you chase survivors instead, it's wasted. But, I must say, it baffles me how killer can whine about anything. Before, you used to cry about people combining DS and UB. Now that people don't use those as much as before, you found other things to cry about. Not saying there isn't stuff that needs fixing in this game, there is a lot of it. But, at the very least, try lamenting about things that need that, not about simply everything.

Adrenaline isna perk that activates just based on gens. It has nothing to do with you doing the gens. One survivor who loops all game finally goes down but gets a 2nd chance cause 3 others do the gens. Its in the same category as NOED. Its dependant on other factors but like noed, requires you to do no actual objective.

Im not a fan of Noed, but they're still in the same basis of free perks. And that Exhaustion of Adrenaline still overrides any exhaustion you already have. Giving you 2 perks in one go. 1 - Unbreakable and 2 - sprint burst.

Bloodlust isnt a 5th perk. It gains the killer speed after a very long chase. In the time it takes to get 3 stacks of BL a gen could get done very easily. And most killers break pallets. So to get any meaningful speed boost for it, you need to be in a chase for 45 seconds and break no pallets allowing any survivor with experience a very easy way to prolong the chase. Bloodlust is an extra ability but its by no means on the same level as any perk.

Also, worth pointing out i play both equally, but as ive made new friends lately. i play more survivor. And i still think the free abilities survs have outweigh the killers. But then again im one of those that think a killer should be OP. That doesnt think survs should get out easily. I like the challenge and the fear factor. So i prefer it to be harder and not make it so survs can be far stronger than killers. So this whole "killers crying" argument means nothing to me. Im over the years a 50/50 player and atm more 70/30 surv so its "survs crying" aswell.

in Why is the community so up in arms about noed? Comment by Konnor24 July 26, 2021

@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2377546#Comment_2377546
And holding the game hostage is also against the rules, but it doesn’t stop most killers from doubling the time the game should be

Slugging isnt holding the game hostage. The downed survivors life is slowly ticking down. Therefore nothing is being held hostage. Nor is slugging against the rules.

in Something needs to be done about DCing to give player hatch Comment by Konnor24 July 23, 2021

@Damarus said:
Because it favors BAD players and gives them free hooks. Killers always come and say unhook should not be free, yet they never see how NOED is giving them free stuff, more so than other perks they have already do. Trapper should not be taken as an example, because the way he is designed is flawed, and doesn't work now that players know what they are doing. He might have worked before, when the game was in its vanilla state, but now he is just outdated.

So what about the "free" things survivors have? Like Dead Hard? Adrenaline? Killers taking 1-2 seconds to kick gens which can now be blast mined requiring 5-6 seconds to break only for the survivor to take 0.1 seconds to touch it and stop regression.

Im not a fan of noed, whether i play killer or survivor, but the whole "noed is a free down" argument just doesnt work as survivors have a lot more "free" stuff.

in Why is the community so up in arms about noed? Comment by Konnor24 July 23, 2021

It seems from replies people either dont realise when its happening or its totally regional, but that makes me wonder why its regional?

But considering the amount of people stating they've experienced multiple cheaters, im finding it hard to believe these people with 1000s of hours only meeting a handful.

A lot here state they experience the insta heal cheat, whereas i have never experienced that as a killer, only speed hacks and/or teleport hacks. I have experienced that as a solo survivor though.

in Sick of constantly facing cheaters Comment by Konnor24 July 23, 2021

@TripleSteal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2376787#Comment_2376787
We play on the same servers, about the same rank (i get quite a bit of purple ranks in my matches when queing late), and in simular times (yours is a bit earlier, but that's hardly relevant).
By the looks of it, either your luck is very poor, or my standards to declare someone to be a cheater are higher. Ppl blatantly teleporting through the map when downed do not suppose any duality in judgement, though.

They are not teleporting to the other side of the map when downed just like that. They are crawling, VERY FAST after being downed. They are running very fast when up. spamming their flashlights to get me to chase as they know i will never catch.

For example. 1 game i had. The cheater playing the nea, i started a chase with her, i was around 6 meters away and another 2-3 seconds in position to lunge. Suddenly shes 10 meters away, then 15 meters away. In the space of less than 2 seconds. Running round the map like speedy gonzalez.

I went after others, downed one, hooked them, Nea comes to save right on front of me, she was still injured from me managing to hit her earlier when i was hidden thanks to tinkerer and she was doing a gen, she never bothered to heal. During saving the other surv, i downed the nea, while wiping my weapon, shes crawling at a speed double the speed that legion runs.

Thats just the speed hackers. The closet teleporters are the ones appearing all over different parts of the map after running into a closet right in front of me.