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@EliteTertle said:
saw in the patch notes unbound no longer works with killer powers, why not? It’s not like they were strong before. It helps out killers like Legion, Wesker, and Ghoul. And while ghoul probably doesn’t need any help, it’s still cool that they’re perks that exist that help some specific killers more than others. I remember when game afoot worked with Nemesis; and I wish this came back. Game afoot with friends til the end would be a super fun combo on Nemesis, Demo, etc. its just a shame because otherwise these perks just kinda suck, or have better alternatives. Incentives to not stack exclusively info and regression would be nice; though I guess it’s understandable since those killers that benefit the most already have a chase power.
Because its not gen slowdown thats why it got nerfed
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@Scarlett1111 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3954543#Comment_3954543
It is your job as the killer to push them out or kill them then. Why are you sitting there letting them elongate a game? Killers always control the state of the game.
We're talking about things that are necessary vs unnecessary that isn't necessary whats up with this rules for me but not for thee mentality? Just leave why do I have to push YOU out and watch YOU teabag? Ok if you're slugged on the floor get up/alt tab and go do something else then
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@hermitkermit said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3954376#Comment_3954376
I think the point is that it isn’t necessary. With 2 survivors on the ground and 1 up, it is not necessary to be slugging for hatch. The hook is still viable even after a sacrifice since they now respawn, and people also can’t 3% anymore which is even more reason not to need to slug.
I think it happens often because it’s just easier. In the very first 2v8 there was no reason to slug. The hook was instant, guaranteed 100% everytime because no flashlight, sabo, or pallet saves were possible. Killers still slugged, so much so that changes were made to the second 2v8. I think it happens because it’s easier.
Its also not necessary for survivors to stand at the exit gate till EGC finishes im not trying to turn this into Us Vs Them but I hope if they find a solution to the slugging for 4k situation they do the same for what I just mentioned
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They'll do a bandaid fix like give basekit DS or increase haste/endurance duration (this'll solve nothing btw) instead of incentivising killers to go for hooks
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@OPXtreme_ttv said:
I agree fully.
but Hot take: being over 100ms should ban you from pub matches. Thoughts?
No thats ridiculous there are no servers in my region and I've been playing since the game was P2p where I was getting matched with people in my region constantly but now im banned from playing the game even though i've bought every single DLC since 2018?
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Freddy can use doors now? Freddy Krueger mains cannot stop winning
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@nicnc82 said:
Had 3 games where the killer tunneled everyone. I just wanted OUT of that game. So I just stood there. Tired of being tunneled. Got a warning. I did NOT care. Nothing will force me to play a game like that. The devs need to get it through their heads, you will never be able to force anyone to play a game. Get to the bottom of why survivors are doing it instead. Penalize tunneling more. At 5 gens, it's just being a horrible player to do that means you have no skill and or want to purposely ruin other's game. Its one reason I stopped playing like I used to and now rarely play. So has my whole group I used to play with. When I do play, I play killer more and have been a killer main for 3 years now and it's so easy.
If you wanted to leave why didn't you get tunneled? Why'd you have to afk lol
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Maybe if you stopped blasting MC Micropenis' new album at 200 decibels you'd be able to hear the giant footsteps coming towards you
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@ChuckingWong said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3934115#Comment_3934115
Well, my example is probably their worst nightmare, the kind of result their hypotheticals can’t explain away.
I had everything stacked against me:
- Eyrie of crows: most survivor sided map.
- Playing Vommy Mommy; tall, easily spotted from far away.
- Low mobility killer.
- Mostly an M1 killer with a conditional M2.
- One gen left, only three hook states, and all gens with progress.
No tunneling. Still pulled a 3K win.
According to them, that’s “impossible.” But it happened.
And that’s the point, tangible gameplay beats endless what-if spirals. Hypotheticals aren’t being used to explore ideas or balance. They’re being used to deflect, to protect their belief system, and worse, to avoid the work of actually analyzing games.
What ifs and hypotheticals can go both ways, endlessly. All they are doing is trying to win an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with dead by daylight or balance. Much like the "like" and "dislikes" they are looking for confirmation bias reinforcement.
So yeah, it’s ironic. They say "I’m in a fantasy for not tunneling", while they build their argument on a fantasy version of matches, and ones that I post as well. Dismissing them and picking them apart to fit their narrative, and ignoring the things posted above.
We need to push back, because if all the forums ever hear are emotional complaints dressed up as logic, developers, and players; never get the full picture.
This logic is so flawed it's why anecdotal evidence is literally the worst form of evidence by your logic solo q doesn't need a buff because you 4 man outed against a Nurse on Haddonfield with 4 slowdown perks once so its ok
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Everything that makes killers good is so unfun they should address the fact that killers have to have ranged/mobility to be good instead of making killers like this like come on imagine if someone like Pig was released today would probably throw Headtraps and teleport to jigsaw boxes or something
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@100PercentBPMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3933535#Comment_3933535
almost as if the killer is the game master who sets the tone for the trial. not everyone is here sweating chasing an invisible number. some of us value fun
I play xeno so people can have fun too
Ok you don't have to be so snarky we can have the cool teleports and the killer can have something cool and fun instead of throw axe don't know where that came from
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I agree I think from the survivor's standpoint he's great i mean going from Legion's holding m1 simulator to teleporting around the map looking at cameras sounds fun the problem is from the killer's perspective say you're trying to spice things up you're tired of playing Huntress or Dredge so you play Springtrap but like…what changed? You're throwing hatchets and you're teleporting…again
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@RJoyYourJoy19 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3932782#Comment_3932782
Exacty. Instead of trying to address the reasons why people go next, they are instead implementing a system to force you to stay in the match, a system that will also definitely screw the survivors over in scenarios where they aren't even going next. I mostly see killer mains celebrating this change and that's because a) a lot of killers play this game for a power trip and someone going next doesn't give them the same satisfaction as just stomping a Solo Q squad where everyone is actually playing and b) they know that experienced survivors will be playing the game less as it's mostly them who know when the match is absolutely not worth playing while baby survivors will keep playing no matter what so they won't be impacted by this.
I don't know why you're making this about killer sadly the loser mentality of people who give up for literally anything is what caused this. People will go next if its a 4 slowdown blight or a perkless Pig it literally doesn't matter I've had plenty of games where my soloq teammate gives up at 3 gens and please don't get me started on when someone is in a duo with someone else they get sacrificed first then the other one wants to go next so the other doesn't have to wait.
This isn't even addressing when survivors go "oh well i gave up cause the killer is boring" saying a killer is "boring" means nothing and even if YOU find the killer boring this is a team game I can't get how people don't think its selfish they'll ruin the game for 3 other people and the killer potentially because THEY find the killer boring its so asinine
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People would complain anyways if he was a dash killer they'd complain if he was a ranged killer they'd complain if he was an anti loop killer they'd complain etc etc
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@turksmall236 said:
I thought they were planning on adding more server locations? Paulie Esther made a video about it back in February
They did but they added servers to regions that already had servers and sometimes they just aren't on so you connect somewhere else
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921437#Comment_3921437
Edgerunners was cool, it's not for DBD.
Berserk would be more fitting than Edgerunners.
It would be genuinely criminal if something like Edgerunners got added over Dead Space.
Yeah imagine getting something non horror related added over Dead Space haha…wouldn't that be cuhrazy?
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Yeah no we're way past that sorry
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@WolfyWood said:
They're not going to change it for the same reason you can't see killer ping in pre-game lobby.
I'm all for this change but only after they give more regions servers otherwise nope
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This is definitely one of the most unfun patches in a LONG time they just constantly make Solo Q worse and worse and worse it's just a flip flop between Kaneki and Legion Kaneki and Legion non stop why even have the healthy state anymore at this point considering they have a fetish for killers that inflict deep wounds nowadays
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@CrossTheSholf said:
So you are saying survivors are no not going to rest in companions until he's reworked into uselessness?
I cant answer you because I have literally 0 clue what you just said
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@H2H said:
It seems like survivors don't want any new gameplay, since every time a new killer comes out they immediately throw a tantrum that they can't just run them for 5 gens on their first game and have to actually take time to learn.
I dunno man. Screaming for nerfs after a single day is pretty sad.New gameplay? Where? Mending every 2 seconds? We had that already
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Boy i sure do love being tunneled off hook by The Ghoul with Lethal for the 900th time
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Hey I didn't know you were doing this im from SA too and I like your drive servers for us would be so nice I used to play with south africans all the time during the P2P days green bar ping was so good man
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If you're talking about youtubers? No I just think they cherrypick their matches when they win this isn't even a "you think you're better than you actually are" situation like they'll go on 2 minute chases and somehow 1 gen gets done that's just not realistic at all ESPECIALLY if you're a DBD youtuber
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I think everyone is too caught up in the "well if the killer has no way to hit over pallets they wont be A tier" yeah who cares? I'd rather an absolute trash killer be fun to play than a great killer be boring as piss every time a ranged or dash killer comes out I just roll my eyes knowing i'm probably going to play them for their achievement and then just never touch them again
Also side note every single time they try to do a killer that vastly changes the gameplay like Twins being two killers or Knight being able to summon more people they're buggy for literal months and stay buggy when the devs eventually give up trying to fix them Twins, Knight and Houndmaster are STILL buggy Kaneki will probably have an entire patch dedicated to fixing bugs that'll come and he'll be buggy right until the chapter after him.
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I'd like everyone who teabags at the exit gate to have their fingers broken in a hydraulic press
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I really don't like these changes SM is more fun as an area denial, tracking killer is she really just gonna be "Pinhead 2.0" but instead of chains she aims drones? Nah that's boring af why take away all her identity to make her yet another generic boring killer seriously.
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@zarr said:
BHVR added London servers not too long ago. Prior to that, the UK region servers were located in Ireland. The latter are still active too, but BHVR for some reason thought the UK region needed more servers.
Whatever the reason, as far as I am aware it is specifically players registered to those London servers that regularly get sent to far-away regions. My assumption is that BHVR has only enabled a very limited amount of server slots in London (they use Amazon's GameLift service for their server architecture, so they have to pay for those), and so what happens is that the game wants to send people to those servers, none are available, and instead of sending them to the next-best region ping-wise, the system just doesn't know what to do and sends them across the world?
Whatever the case, this is really something BHVR should rectify. And in general this is one of the many areas in which BHVR is not at all transparent. They never tell us what their reasoning is behind the regions they have servers in and the regions they don't, why they sometimes add and remove some regions, why they refuse to do anything about the many regions with huge player pools that don't have any servers nearby (e. g. Russia, Africa, the Middle East). Hell, they never even officially said they are using Amazon GameLift servers, what their tickrate and updaterate is, what features of these services they are using or are looking to use, and so on.
For the time being, you can DM me if you want help. I'm not sure I'm free to disclose this kind of information on the forums publically.
Man South African servers would be so nice I still remember the P2P days when I got matched with people closest to me
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Give more regions servers then. they added servers again to existing regions already like the US and the UK also "ping limit" I've been playing this game since before dedicated servers when it was peer to peer and i was matched with people from my region and now i don't. Not my fault go blame BHVR im not gonna stop playing a game i sunk tons of money into. Downvote all you want
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Crazy we still dont have South African servers tbh
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So many themes from Saw could be used as chase music doesn't have to be Hello zepp Could be a combination of Pig Vat/Help Them too
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Big tip click/press the continue button its at the bottom right of the screen
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@arcaneGospel said:
The problem with putting facehuggers in the game is that they're explicit in a very different way than the rest of the game. The game is fine depicting violence, of course, but facehuggers and Alien as a whole allude to sexual subject matter that's extremely sensitive, especially to put into DbD now. You can argue that's a reason not to put Alien in the game at all, but the design of the Xenomorph alone is at least more subtle. It would be cool, but ultimately would isolate some people from the game, and that's just not something that should be done.
Plus, mechanically, they seem a little… Hard to implement? At least not without them being totally over- or under-tuned. One of those mechanics that could never be good without being too good.
Ah yes Facehuggers too far a leather clad guy from a sex dimension? a-ok!
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@Pulsar said:
What other posters here do not seem to account for is that this is likely not the first strike in these players' minds.
Yes, there are some people that will DC for nothing, but they are the VAST minority. Most people hop on to try to play some DBD and are met with frustrating match after frustrating match.
That causes burnout over time. Matches where you feel it was unfair or got tunneled or got camped or got slugged AND you don't get anything more than a paltry smattering of points for your efforts in being a good sport and playing them out, well, those matches add up until you eventually get something like this. All we see is someone raging after being downed, but that's all WE can see, not all that they've experienced.
A good start is addressing some problematic mechanics, true. I think they need to look at rewards for Survivors as well and scrap the MMR system entirely. Survivors get such low BP in general, which is a real kick-while-your-down when you just endured a whole bunch of miserable matches. Imo, BP cap should go, and max BP should be 64K for a perfect match. BP boosting offerings should be more common, BPS shouldn't be rarer than Syringes.
As for MMR, they either need to commit to the game being "competitive" and show us MMR or scrap it entirely and go back to an Emblem-esque system.
If you're burnt out play something else no one is holding you hostage and if you think "being found first and going down because you made a bad decision" is frustrating maybe stop playing the game all together and play a singleplayer game where you can load from the last checkpoint like skyrim when you make a bad choice.
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Nah we need Tokyo Ghoul anime instead of all those
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She has one thing going for her at least she's the very first F tier killer PTB ghostface previously held that title but he didnt make it out of the PTB not even pre buff Myers was that bad, not even PIG has ever been this bad
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@LordGlint said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/KPCQP6NX8HTY/17407449274672801618010449727429.jpg
Haven't really been playing much lately with the exception some 2v8 matches over the weekend, but saw a Pig video yesterday and figured I kinda wanna play her since I usually dont. Figured I'd try getting some dash value at loops...
This morning, I log on and hop on Pig... I've played 2 games so far and BOTH have ppl trying to "go next" on the first hook of the match immediately. First guy succeeded... 2nd guy got rescued before he could do more than hit 2nd stage. This is essentially proof that ppl will do this against ANYONE for no reason except they got caught.
Your first mistake was equipping perks on pig that's kinda toxic
Side not this vote up vote down thing was an utter mistake
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Xeno is just boring af imo there was SO much stuff they could've done with Xeno but all it is is "tail attack at animation lock" absolutely the most boring type of killer for both sides
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You're completely correct people saying BHVR are "Cooking" with this is i disagree with, the core issues of the game sucks doing 5 gens is boring as absolute dirt every gamemode is the same 2v8 is do gens with 2 killers, lights out is do gens but its dark, chaos shuffle is do gens but now your perks are random i'm not calling these gamemodes bad 2v8 is fun especially as killer but they don't change the core objective which is boring af at this point.
Another huge issue is the absolute disparity between high tiers and low tiers will a game with a big roster always have bad characters? Yeah of course but this is an assym game for one so the rules change and number two the perk system also changes the rules its literal night and day when you play Pig vs if you play Blight both of these characters can equip the same perks too. It's crazy that Nurse can equip 4 slowdown perks when a perkless addonless nurse is probably better than 90% of the killer roster already
It doesn't even have to be an F tier killer vs an A tier killer Pig vs someone like Demogorgon is a massive difference too walking across the map is so bloody boring and hitting a survivor and just holding forward because you have no way to catch up hoping they just screw up while gens fly is awful too it feels like you aren't even playing the game with some of the killers.
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@JPLongstreet said:
They wouldn't be reckless enough to provide a list like that for targeting would they? 🤔
What "targeting"? Because you know where the servers are? That means nothing its Amazon hosted, knowing what regions the servers are doesn't mean they'll be "targeted" whatever that means
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They're adamant about giving regions that already have servers more servers idk why
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I just hope Operation Health means giving more Servers specifically to the Africa and ME region
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The worst part about 2v8 is the awful latency why they keep putting these events on their worst servers is beyond me
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"Uh i don't like Legion so they should never have been added to 2v8"
The entitlement of this community sometimes is astounding
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I'm so glad this dev team don't listen to the community basekit unbreakable is such an unfathomably horrible idea it's crazy that people actually think its a good idea.
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Sure if SWF gives you Rotten Fields and Haddonfield only why not
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Civ 7 sucks though have you seen that UI? I'll stick with the previous one thanks
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Yeah remove Pig's ability to get another bear trap its too OP
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Latest patch
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/1ii29fd/comment/mb25h5u/?context=3
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The problem with the gamemodes is the objectives stay the exact same really
Do 5 gens hook survivors but now its dark
Do 5 gens hook survivors but everyone's perks are random
At least 2v8 changes up the gameplay by having 2 killers and 8 survivors but the objective is still the same the most boring part about this game is doing gens and every single gamemode is just "do gens but something else happens" or "hook survivors but something else happens" which just leads to the same boring gameplay loop of "do gens as fast as possible kill survivors fast as possible" which leads to tunneling