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@DragonMasterDarren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923616#Comment_2923616
Not trying to be rude, but to me this just reads as "LGBT people must look a specific way or otherwise they aren't actually LGBT, and anyone that disagrees with me is marginalising LGBT people"
BHVR are quite progressive as a whole, i doubt they'd make David gay for brownie points and brownie points alone, i'd personally save the outrage for when his tome comes out and more of his story is revealed, doing it the day before we even see the parts that matter, that being the actual story, feels like jumping the shark to me
Sorry but I dont want to look like everyone else. And I dont need a rainbow to say Im queer.
Im just sick of people saying being LGBT is just a sexuality, its a whole culture, its a history. But many people forget that...
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@Kiridus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923636#Comment_2923636
I think you have simply not been looking at the right games -- probably ones made by developers from countries where femininity amongst men aren't as accepted, because there are plenty of games with characters who are definitely feminine, and have been confirmed as at least bisexual by their devs -- Monster Prom & Camp come to mind.
I mean, known games.
But yes they exist... in games nobody knows 🤷♂️
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923414#Comment_2923414
As it would be mentioning other games I can't be specific, but another game I play has a VERY feminine looking guy, in fact I thought the character WAS female until I read his lore. Now, the game in question isn't one to go into factors of sexuality, Plus, have you played a Japanese Roleplaying Game? Those are FULL of feminine men.
Yes I know Japan is more open than Europeans and Americans about that.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
I understand where you are coming from, but I think perhaps you aren't really making your point come across correctly. This is the part where I would say, it's more about the message and less about the fitting the "stereotype". They obviously cannot fit every single type of LGBTQIA+ characteristic into one single character.
Does this mean that they aren't really supportive? Absolutely not. Does this mean that femininity being displayed as part of a character's characteristic have no place? Absolutely not. It just means that maybe this is not the character that would allow them to fit the characteristics that you want to see.
They did say he is the first step toward more representation. So I wouldn't count out the idea that perhaps a character with more effeminate characteristics might show up in the future.
Thank you to take my point seriously, and responded to me in a kind way.
I understand what you mean but Im just sick of feminine gays being marginalized, there are only space for masculine gays in video games.
Everytime a male character is feminine the devs are always "but he is not gay"
Why is it so difficult to make a gay queer character in video games ???
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@Kiridus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923583#Comment_2923583
Because, to be honest, making a new survivor just for gay rep is kind of, y'know, gross? It'd send an actual bad message, too -- it'd tell people that BHVR is too scared of actually making any of their existing characters gay, and had to make a new one just to get gay people to shut up or look cool. Making David gay, at least, makes it a more pleasant thing than "hey we just made a new character btw they are gay."
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923571#Comment_2923571
I dunno, dude, I am not the one who just responded to someone saying "good gay rep can just be a dude who happens to be gay" with "THAT IS NOT QUEER CULTURE," but you have fun I guess.
Exactly what you think, lets continue to marginalized queer people and only encourage LGBT people that everybody like ! Dont take risk and dont create a male character looking too feminine, gross 🤮
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@katoptris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923525#Comment_2923525
Mikaela is definitely a vegan now. It been confirmed by me.
Mikaela is vegan, Nea is a lesbian and Yun Jin is a drag queen. 💅
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@Kiridus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923547#Comment_2923547
There is a bit of a difference between TERF Queen Rowling and BHVR's reveals, to be fair -- Rowling clearly did it for brownie points from his transphobic lesbian friends who drool at the sight of gay men, while BHVR doesn't really have that circle, so it was just more of a neat thing than a clear attempt at saving face or appearing "progressive".
BHVR just doesn't really...have a reason I can think of to do this reveal for brownie points, especially since, shockingly, I do not think BHVR is stupid enough to try the same thing "twice," as people had accused them of "going woke" and trying to "appeal to the gays" before with the OG Pride Charm.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923548#Comment_2923548
Things have changed. Gay people aren't made explicitly for comedic effect anymore. We are seen as PEOPLE. Real queer representation isn't when a male character basically wears a neon sign declaring their love for other dudes, it's when a character is gay and just another guy among thousands.
We aren't some alien horde who needs very specific quotas met for "real queer representation," we are ######### PEOPLE like straight and cis people are.
Thats what I though, you clearly dont know what queer culture is 😂
You are talking about a subject you dont understand
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@Kiridus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923528#Comment_2923528
Gamer, I damn near bought thigh-highs for myself before I started feeling worried that my parents would find out and disown me. Some of my friends found out I am gay because I kept wanting to play the feminine men in the games we played together.
I am the #########' "feminine gay" you are talking about, and I think your point is #########.
Maybe you just dont want the things to changes. For my own Im exhausted of this fake inclusion. I want real queer representation.
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@Kiridus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923491#Comment_2923491
Not gonna lie, this reads like concern-trolling more than actual concern.
I am a gay man, and a pretty effeminate one, at that, and to be honest, it feels so reductionist towards the diversity among gay men, and the LGBTQ+ community in general, to claim that the first gay character of a video game being a masculine guy somehow declares that the only way to represent gay men in fiction is by making them masculine as #########.
Several series have come and gone, featuring gay men who are pretty effeminate and, well, pretty, though that is my personal opinion -- to claim that DbD is somehow single-handedly giving off this message is not only silly, I mean, come on, it's ######### Dead by Daylight, but it is also dismissive of all the work games with bigger LGBTQ+ rosters have put into diversifying their LGBTQ+ characters.
Besides, it's comically easy to make your argument in reverse, and it sounds just as stupid! If they made, say, Trickster the first gay character, I could just as easily bemoan that they are sending the message that the only okay gay representation in fiction is slightly effeminate, mentally unsound men. Hell, you can literally make your argument for any character in Dead by Daylight being the first gay character -- its so stupid, you can apply it to EVERY CHARACTER IN THE VIDEO GAME.
Just get a bloody grip, would you?
I just see that once again feminine gays are marginalized.
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@Sandt21 said:
you don't feel represented by David. But, by definition, can't you admit that there will be some gay people who feel represented by David? Otherwise, your saying that you only want gay characters represented in a certain way.
Some but again its for masculine gay guys and we (feminine gays) are again seen as a stereotype 🤡
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@GHOSTfaceP3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923491#Comment_2923491
The gay community has so many different types of people. I hope you and everyone be it lesbian or trans can have representation eventually. However this is a major step for us and I'm so happy. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
A major step ? Its just a small and easy one.
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@Aneurysm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923468#Comment_2923468
Let's compromise - David gets to remain gay -but- bhvr adds a note to his lore saying he's a power bottom.
So you are saying being a power bottom is kinda feminine ? wow pls stop talking 😂
You all are the ones who makes stereotypes, not me.
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@GHOSTfaceP3 said:
I'm a trans lesbian and Im happy David is gay, there's nothing wrong with it
Its wrong because it just says (again) that the only representative way of gay people in video games are masculine gays.
Everybody says being feminine gay is a stereotype but its not because we have 0 representations.
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@AlkaloidssOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2923414#Comment_2923414
I'm on the feminine side myself and you are the exact type of person that I hate in our community. You look for reasons to be offended, call everything you disagree with homophobic, are you going to tell me I have some kind of privilege next? Anyway lets end this disscusion here and lets hope we never interact again.
You just have no arguments and you know Im right. Thank you next.
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@AlkaloidssOP said:
I'm bisexual myself and I honestly don't see any problem with David being gay. As you said yourself not every gay person is feminine. And certainly not every gay character needs to be the walking "princess" stereotype. Personally I'm glad they went that direction with a guy like David, its actually a refreshing perspective.
Also I don't really understand why should there be an entire chapter devoted to this. And whatever fanfic you read, that has really nothing to do with anything here. Get over it, its fine as it is.
"The walking "princess" stereotype"
"David actually a refreshing perspective"
Its exactly what I denounce, its oppressive and almost homophobic to say that.
Thank you to confirmed what I said.
Being feminine is not a stereotype or maybe you are saying Im a stereotype ?
I dont feel represented at all with David I just feel attacked once again. There are 0 representation of feminine guys in video games.
Once again the gay guy is muscle man -_-
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@Rookie1978 said:
This game desperately needs more maps in general.
Yes I miss old times when we got one map per killers...
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@Cameragosha said:
Please hawkin return.
Yesss hawkins revolution !
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Maybe a similar map will show on the 6th anniversary for Alien
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@OpenX said:
Parental Guidance + Smash hit; a straight up chase ender. It also rewards you very heavily for camping pallets which is pretty funny since normally that's bad
Yes its a very fun combo I use it with Power Struggle and Flip Flop too, I love this build
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Ace, he is just useless
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@Kubui said:
I will suggest some gamemodes that can make the game funnier and better. I also think new gamemodes would increase the player base. Everyone want new modes, thats a fact, and i hope devs listen to us.
• NO PERKS MODE: Tired of DH, DS, BQQ or NOED?. No perks mode, like a classical horror game. Only items can be found in-match.
•EVERYONE FIRST MODE: There are some videos on youtube where survivors play in first person and it looks amazing (killer´s already 1st person so it only affects survivors). It feels like Outlast but being multiplayer. People ask this as an "option in configurations" which will not work, it would be an disvantage, and as its result, no one will use it. (Or very few)
•UNRANKED MODE: Well, as the name says, Unranked mode. It was already in BHVR plans so i won´t say nothing.
•2v6: The most requested one, but also, the most difficult one. People say 2v8, but it actually would be broken asf as survivor. if a killer gets genrushed while in chase with 4 people, imagine with 8 of them. Despite being 2 killers it would be shameful. So, 2v6 would be the perfect number. But this also needs larguer maps because the actual ones (some of them) are adjusted for a 1v4.
Probably this post will get lost as other ones. So, after sometime i will post it again ethernaly until we get new game modes like these ones.
For the two killers mode I dont agree. 6 survivors would be too easy for killers. 10 would be great.
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@ChurchofPig said:
I don't care if BHVR needs to talk to someone or not. The library should not be in the game with how many different perks you can use to make it physically impossible to hook/catch someone just by going to the library. That part of RPD never should have made it into dbd, no matter how 1 to 1 Capcom wanted the map to be. Literally the moment BHVR fixes one issue with the RPD Library, they either have that fix removed or another issue pops up. It may not be a safe room in Resident Evil 2, but it sure is in dbd.
You are lying ! In RE2 it is a safe room ! More safe than dbd !
Seriously, how can you still want to remove this room after so many nerfs ? Now it is very hard to wiggle from this room. Good killers will just slug or pick up when you know you can hook.
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I agree the new SBMM system is much better. I hope they will replace the current one by the new one.
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The chapters you mentionned released with a map ! Not Sadako, Pinhead or Ghostface. All of them flopped.
Thats why I keep saying : we need more maps.
The successful chapters were all released with a new map.
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I dont feel bad for tunneling because survivors dont feel bad for tea bagging or clicky clicking.
Anyway, I tunnel only because survivors forced me to do by bodyblocking with BT, dont take protection hits, ect.
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2884173#Comment_2884173
Indoor maps look pretty good. They're awful gameplay wise
RCPD is very balanced compare to other indoor maps. I know people say the opposite. Its just because they dont know the map.
Some unsafe pallets are called god pallets just because the killer dont know they can mindgame it.
Silent Hill is a great one too.
I agree Lery and The Game are unbalanced.
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I love indoor maps !
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2884164#Comment_2884164
You want Eyrie 2.0? Be my guest
I want RCPD 2.0
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
I don't want any new maps. They're never going to make a good and balanced map, and if they do manage to make a somewhat balanced map, they'll ruin it by changing the way tiles spawn on it creating infinites or just spamming a bunch or Breakable Walls next to God Windows
You dont want any new map..
You are not the only player in this game. We want new maps and we will get them.
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@jesterkind said:
We can only but hope...
I miss this map so much it was one of the best !
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Wait for new hemorraghe system it will counter boon easily 😉
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Yes the new mmr is way better than the current one. Team mates taking hits and bodyblocking tunneler killer in solo q. Killers with a real strategy, they scared me.
Yes the new mmr almost perfect.
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@DoritoHead said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874796#Comment_2874796
You're both wrong.
JOEY>Jake>Steve>David>Leon
Ok if we count killers ! But David before Leon, I reallyyy dont understand
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2875338#Comment_2875338
I really don't like Steve 🏃🏻
Season 1 of Stranger Things completely killed any attraction I may have had to him and nothing that happens in any other season will change that sadly.
For me Steeve in Stranger Thing and Steeve in dbd are not the same characters.
I dont know why, and I think Steeve in dbd is cute !!
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2875057#Comment_2875057
Me, with glasses already:
"the most dumb straight character" I can fix him
How can you choose David over the cute Steeve !!!
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@RavenBirb said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874748#Comment_2874748
and swamp isn't? 85% of it is just grey lol
Swamp is ugly too, but not as much as Autohaven
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874796#Comment_2874796
me when i have no taste
Having taste is crushing on David for you ? I meeeaaaannn, gurl get glasses 🧐
David is like the most dumb straight character Ive ever seen lmao
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874762#Comment_2874762
David > Leon > Steve that's just how it is
No wayyy Leon > Steeve > Jake > Felix >>>>>>> David
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
Shoutout to the Greek Legends collection for giving me the first look at David legs and my favourite Jane headpiece ever. Shame you can't break sets anymore it was iconic.
Also, Feng's shirt and trousers are nice. And Zarina is pretty pretty too.
David eww.
Show me Steeve or Leon legs 🤤
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I started playing as the same time as you. Let me tell you something : this is nostalgia.
Dbd has never been scary at all. There is some jumpscares like Hag or Ghostface. But the game wasnt scary at all.
It was just because you discovered the game.
The game is better now.
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Alien.
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Autohaven, its just so ugly
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Dont fix it Behavior pls or just remove BNP
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@ElleGreen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874608#Comment_2874608
The dream warriors vibes In this statement you better beat that man up In your pyjamas we love a final girl Imagine If Cheryl got pjs iconic
Maybe I want to get moried 👉👈😳
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@ElleGreen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874601#Comment_2874601
The perfect outfit lol
I want to be chased by Pinhead in Silent Hill while Im in my pyjamas 😱😱
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I love pyjamas too !
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@ChurchofPig said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874537#Comment_2874537
If they actually wait that long to literally update 4 more maps, that'll be disappointing. I'd rather them just finish the two remaining realms and move on instead of dragging this out for as long as they possibly can.
It should have been already over, Im not expecting too much from realm beyond now.
I was exciting when it started, but it takes too long.
Anyway except Autohaven I like every update.
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The Swamps and Red Forest are the next then its over.
But realm beyond is for characters graphic updates too so it could take 2 or 3 years more.
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I still use it on my doctor, very good synergy
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@Kurri said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2854539#Comment_2854539
If you down the survivor in the left or right room, sure. But if the survivors go to the center of the hallway, you're not making those hooks (unless you are running iron grasp).
I mean sure we can make Iron Grasp base kit, and that would solve the issue too, but a perk shouldn't be the answer for poor map design. The game is hard enough on Killer players imagine if they all only could use 3 perks.
Its a lie you can hook them without Iron Grasp, just break the breakable doors before picking them up 😂