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nobody cares or will listen , everyone plays survivor dude. whats sick is they have the nerve to call killers bad endgame when they don't even play the side themselves because they're too scared to . they would crack & breakdown from the teabags and BM's , thats why the softest-people usually are the most annoying and they coddle in the corner of survivor instead.
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Killers play that way because the games balance & fairness is fundamentally flawed even by asymmetrical standards ; so theres generally no way for killers to know whether a group of survivors are SWF. you can check profiles but it doesn't always show whether they're in a party. So its best for killers to just play the same way every-time because , more often than not, if they don't- theyll get stomped .
& as far as solo-q goes , the MAIN (and possibly only) problem with it , is the survivors themselves. they're legitimately not good at the game & can't play efficiently without their training-wheel comms. solo-q is a semblance of how the games originally supposed to be , and people are bad when they play real DBD .
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survivors don't appreciate when they get anyone other than spirit , blight , wraith - they continue to gen-rush as fast as possible and be uppity with teabags. its disgusting just how out-of-whack this game is , if an AAA-developer came along and made a competitor to DBD , just maybe, MAYBE , people would see just how awfully flawed this game is.
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@dugman said:
You could always try Whispers or Lethal Pursuer to get yourself into a chase ASAP at the start of the match. It doesn't help you win the chase faster but starting it faster means getting pressure on them that much more quickly.
you guys keep suggesting perks to fix a fundamental flaw of the game . in what world is it a solution to fix game balance with a perk ? thats the equivalent of a bandage over a gunshot wound. but this is what people who play both sides a good amount should expect , majority of this playerbase only plays one-side and is completely naive about the other .
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It's not just you at all , i've been notice that a looong time ago . theres always gonna be a free hook-escape despite there already being a perk for survivors to do that , but that isnt enough . survivors have to be pacified & pampered so the co$metic bucks can keep rolling in . so yeah , expect one to unhook everytime during endgame . the game isn't for killers at all , you're just there to give four friends a good time, like a hired punching bag.
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meme'ing=/=farming btw. farming matches are boring as hell and i'd gen rush too , and not interact too either . im not farming .
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@ElusivePukka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2505618#Comment_2505618
Killer main, easily over 2,000 hours. Genrush isn't even real since the changes from the old days, tunneling and camping plateau your personal skill to the point you're as braindead as the NOED/Dead Hard-dependent, and some third thing which baby killers tout as a necessary strat despite being inherent evidence of something lacking from the player's arsenal.
Post the killer(s) you mainly use and your perks , please . & don't lie either , you're anonymous .
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Yep , its ''competitive'' mario party , with faulty ranking , MMR , and a DC penalty .
When theres 0 competition and MP gaming overall is in a dry spell , what do you expect ? these devs have a monopoly with full control . whatever dumb decisions & bugs , go without repercussion . Only people who think this **** is ok are the people who do not play both sides almost equally at ''high'' play , and most are survivors ; they don't really understand the game . This game is horrid for competitive play.
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@burt0r said:
Damn the elitism in this post is hilarious.
But to answer your ridiculous formulated question. Survivor queue on console in general were horrendous because the amount of killer players was way below the needed 20%. So they created the crossplay feature to let console have part in the significantly bigger killer player pool on PC, which at that time also had the longer queue times in respect to survivor exclusively on PC.
So ....PC killers are hogging the PS players ? If console survivors needed killers , then i should still be getting them too .
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If this helps , my region is central US . anyone else who lives in the worst part of the country may be able to relate more.
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@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452795#Comment_2452795
hahaha that's a flex for sure! But no, the DC penalty has not changed, it goes up in increments, kept short initially but increases the more you DC. And the penalty naturally decays over time.
yeah it decays after like half a freaking week . if i d/c today on wednesday , then d/c again on friday - its at 15 minutes, lmao.
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@Kalinikta said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452698#Comment_2452698
You bought a multiplayer game and each player is entitled to play the game for their self enjoyment. The fact is that you are not entitled to ruin the game for others by rage quiting a match because you don't like how it is going. You are not owed a win for buying the game or having the game go your way. Just as you do not owe others anyone anything, they don't owe you anything either... win or lose you signed up to playing the game with other people, so play the game. You can rage quit and ruin the game for everyone else, but that is your choice and you are to bear the consequences for your own actions.
You act like I never have a bad game, I will try and win and you can do the same... if I lose I however don't complain and demand to be able to ruin the enjoyment of others because they need to sacrifice their good time because I am not having a good game. You are the karen in this conversation... you can try and turn it around, but just take the L and play out the game.
If you want to quit the moment things do not go your way; play against bots!
'' The fact is that you are not entitled to ruin the game for others by rage quiting a match because you don't like how it is going.''
uh , yeah , i am , karen . i don't owe you anything. its that simple. what have you done for people that d/c in a match ? are you their parent ? you bought their game or something ? you pay for their internet ? no ?
well then .
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452774#Comment_2452774
I believe the "too bad so sad" goes to the people who rack up 30+ minute penalties. :P
yeah , i bet you wish that was me huh ? too bad so sad . ;)
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@FancyMrB said:
Doesn't matter how you see this game. It is a multi-player game meaning when you hit ready you are telling 4 other people you are here to play.
If you can't be a good sport, then you shouldn't be allowed to play. That simple.
Entity bless the DC penalty. I only wish serial DCers would be banished to the shadow realm to play with their own kind ^^
and it doesn't matter what you have to say about it , see how that works ? nobody owes you anything , and your comment is just an opinion .
entitled.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452768#Comment_2452768
The point is that the DC ruins the game for the Survivors by immediately and unfairly stacking the game against them heavily.
too bad so sad. HYPOTHETICALLY , if there was no d/c penalty , you could leave too and find another match. but the d/c penalty forces everyone to stay even if someone leaves , LMAO!
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452734#Comment_2452734
And the vast majority of the community, dbd's "society", agree that ragequitting is selfish and ruins a trial for everyone else, therefore is frowned upon and gets penalized.
Just like for example urinating in public in the real world.
it's selfish but its not wrong . people should look after themselves first.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452740#Comment_2452740
How does one literally imply something?
literal as in you can clearly read where its implied . the implication is literally in their sentences .
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452726#Comment_2452726
You agreed to the "terms and services" and while yes, most of us didn't read it, it is still there, valid and has our everyones signature.
So we all have to obey the general rules of this "DBD society" just like in real life. And just like there is police and other forms of law enforcement, do has DBD it's ways.
alright , youre right . i disagree with it and think its BS for video games to have you by the ****s but you're right . i got nothing else to say . i signed their stupid ToS thats abused by corporations , so i deal with it . video games are serious ######### these days.
/thread
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that includes friends. if your friends got it - you all got it for eachother . nobody else , i.e. complete strangers that think you owe them a good time despite yours .
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452721#Comment_2452721
The last two people you replied to did not say anything about removing the DC penalty.
they implied it.
they literally implied it. i said nothing about removing it .
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@PhantomChimera said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452698#Comment_2452698
I like many, many others also paid for the game and bought it for my own enjoyment.
When you DC you are negatively impacting 4 other players. Players who rage quit should not have a grace period just because they don't like how a match is going.
and we all don't owe eachother anything . i don't get why you guys think people owe others something in a video game . we all got the game for ourselves not to care about whoever else is playing it .
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452698#Comment_2452698
And the devs don't own it to you to support this mentality in online pvp multiplayer games.
The user agreement has paragraphs including the behaviour that the distributor of the software sets as requirement to participate. Otherwise they make use of their right to limit the user in their accessibility to their software, up to a Perma ban.
what do i owe them though ?
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452706#Comment_2452706
The problem that causes so many others to have to deal with a boring 3v1. I’ve seen people DC on their FIRST DOWN and when things don’t go their way when they’re not entitled that. DCing is a huge problem and the penalty is good for the game.
who said anything about removing it for the 3rd time ? the bots are out in full force .
and hypothetically , if there was no penalty , guess what ? sigh you could D/C too! find another match .
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@Mandy said:
If you're DC'ing, you are quite simply ruining the game for the other 4 players in that match - hence we have the DC penalty in place, as it's clearly not behaviour that's wanted in the game.
whats the point of this comment ? who said anything about removing it ?
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2452706#Comment_2452706
The problem of thinking that DC penalty should be lessened.
imagine being put in time-out by a video game in real-time . it should be lessened , its just a game . 30 minutes is more than enough , you never sat in time-out for 30 minutes at recess before have you angel?
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@GannTM said:
You’re part of the problem sounds like.
and what delusional first-world problem is that ?
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@Kalinikta said:
If it is such a casual game, why are you rage quiting because things are not going your way... entitled much?
- Because i paid for the game , you didn't buy my copy
- I bought it for my own self enjoyment , i don't owe anyone or complete strangers online jackshit , that never did anything for me. didnt pay for my internet , didnt pay for my console, didnt pay for my subscription , but yet i owe somebody online something ?
you're the entitled one for thinking people should sacrifice their own enjoyment of a game for yours .
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and wraith is boring af too . he was always boring to go against , now hes just worse.
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@Razorbeam said:
Swf games are way more fun for killer than pure solo q once you have played enough swf games to understand the difference in mentality. I have also never in all my time playing solo q survivor ever once felt I got ######### over by a premade, even if I did that would be pure speculation on my end and most likely just me blaming my team mates for all the misplays I made that game.
''swf games are way more fun for killer than pure solo q" 😂🤣😂🤣
''to understand the difference in mentality'' - you mean how a huge portion of the playerbase is so bad at a simple game that they need to group up on comms to hold m1 ? either hold m1 or run from the killer , but again - typical SWF excuses
you say you never got f'd over by a premade but didnt mention your region , or rank . ok.
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@MadmegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406785#Comment_2406785
I truly play solo 99 percent of my 4k hours in this game. Somehow I’ve never had a problem with people playing with there friends lol. Grow up dude
As soon as your grow out of your titanic ego , ill maybe consider what some inconsiderate ''mad'' boy has to say.
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@MadmegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406754#Comment_2406754
Except your post isnt a valid complaint. Its a pathetic one
And cheating with friends is an invalid pathetic way to play the game , instead of going to custom games that only SWFs can play . Keep making excuses without jack-S** to back it up. thats all you sweatsquads do is point-fingers at the OP because you have no rebuttal for your garbage game-breaking playstyle.
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@gilgamer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406769#Comment_2406769
Well one just because you started the thread doesn't give you ownership over it, I can do or say what I want on this thread. Two your statement isn't valid just because you feel strongly about it also the majority of the playerbase plays at least somewhat in swf disabling it or separating queues would not be good for the game and definitely not for solo queue.
So let's address your idea of "just go into customs" so whats a group of 2, 3, or even 4 supposed to do in custom games? The games not balanced for it. Another thing how much enjoyment can you get out of playing against the same 4 people over and over again? What about how devastating removing swfs would be to queue times? You know a large portion of the population would quit the game over swf removal right?
SWFs was an addition to the game it wasn't there at launch or at least it wasn't there in its earliest forms not sure (not sure when exactly it was added) it was highly requested why would they remove it now years later?
Can you answer those questions legitimately since you brought up this whole topic ill drop the "personal" attacks I want your legit answer to those questions. Obviously you don't have to answer but all that tells me is that you don't have an answer to them.
Good. for. you.
Your entire posts is just making excuses with strawman arguments , you people know the sh** is unfair why the hell is it such an endeavor to fix your lips to admit that ? How the hell can custom games be unbalanced ? You have free- reign over game rules , maps , and you're all on coms and can negotiate what perks yall wanna use . The fact that you're trying to find an excuse for why custom-games isn't the perfect fit for friends is just - EXCUSES.
Then you said - ''what if its 2 or 3'' ? then the inconsiderate 2-3 of you just ruin the game for the solo-survivor and the killer , all the while wasting 3 slots that other solo-players could've had. not only that - but you screw up the algorithm with your rainbow ranks or ranks in general that just throws off the matchmaking . why cant 2 swfs be matched with another 2 swfs is beyond me also - but keep making excuses for sleezy , greasy and sweaty ways to play that suck .
Nobody cares about the ''what if's'' with the SWF the point is that ITS NOT FAIR AND RUINS THE GAME. wheres the dispute with that ? there is NONE .
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@MadmegMain said:
This post reads as someone who cant make friends.
ITT : Triggered SWF boys , keep making excuses .
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@gilgamer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406754#Comment_2406754
"Your opinion is invalid my opinion is fact" are you a child?
You can go to another thread now ; retorting to ad-hominems and making it personal is not my problem . i made a valid statement thats worth a complaint and you got a problem with it because it conflicts with your inconsiderate and self-absorbed ego . bye bye now .
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@gilgamer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406716#Comment_2406716
Bro I'm a killer main, playing with friends is like maybe 10% of my game time and survivor is at most 20% of my 1k hours I've done every survivor challenge from the last 4 tome chapters and all the ones from this chapter so far and you don't see me b*tching.
My friends stopped playing dbd well before I got to rank 1 survivor and don't get me wrong solo queue sucks at times which is why I play mostly killer but don't delude yourself into thinking it ruins the game.
good for you ; your track record , personal experiences , and opinions are irrelevant - this thread is valid complaints based in facts . keep making excuses for wanting to sweatwithfriends instead of just owning up to the fact that its a slimeball way to play the game . instead of going to custom games , that the mode was designed for.
excuses , excuses .
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@MrBuffalo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406602#Comment_2406602
You know what used to happen when killers could tell they were versing a SWF? They would lobby dodge and then no one would find games which is why BHVR had to put things in to stop people from dodging every single lobby just cause people didnt like what they were looking at.
And for good reason - nobody (killers) likes SWF . Solo survivors don't like them & they waste slots for solo-players . The reasons for dodging are valid and make 100% sense.
SWF ruins the game.
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@Heartbound said:
Back when the game was new there was no survive with friends option and survivors would enter and exit lobbies until they found their friends and a lot of people were vocal about wanting a survive with friends feature. People were going to find each other anyway. (Game population wasn't nearly as big, its just the way it was.)
That's why it's here. It wasn't really a game balance thing. It was an inevitability. I don't think this game was ever supposed to be taken competitively anyway. It was just cheeky slasher hide and seek. Winning and losing were kinda after thoughts.
Aside from rank , SWF is another driving factor that forces this game to be a ''wanna-be competitive'' mess. Basically - SWF ruins the game.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406727#Comment_2406727
Yeah. I grab the person I know for 20 years now and we decided, we just want to play together to ruin other players experience. Like, not that we enjoy playing together, we solely play to make the life of others miserable.
Whether you like it or not , you break the poor-balance of the game even more , and ruin the game for solo-players i.e others. you and your friend just wasted 2 slots for solo-players to be able to link-up and play clean matches. Like i said , only selfish , inconsiderate SWF boys and girls disagree with this - you people can't even admit the way you play is gross , and just continue on with your nuisance ways.
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@Zozzy said:
Seen to many solo survivors left to die on hook or left alone in the trial after a 3 man swf ragequit. I avoid them as survivor.
@Kyxlect said:
I agree. There needs to be an option to filter out these SWF groups from searches as both Survivor and Killer.
@Clowning said:
Letting Killers know whether they're facing a SWF would help a lot, since it's no fun for anyone when a Killer brings meme perks for fun only to meet four dudes with LED gaming chairs.
Matter of fact, even as a Survivor I'd love to know who is with who, so I can adjust perks and my expectations accordingly.
And yes, lobby dodging would be a concern, but eh...
Excellent posts. Only triggered inconsiderate SweatWithFriend crutch boys and gals disagree. This isn't a matter of opinions - SWFs ruin the game.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
As with about LITERALLY every other COMMON complain about what ABSOLUTELY RUINS THE GAME ( keys, hatch, moris, DH, DS, BT, NOED, SPIRIT, Deathslinger, Twins, Trickster, Hatch etc) this all boils down to one thing:
Every time something is perceived as 'ruining the game' one of the involved parties stubbornly tried to play in an utterly selfish 'win at every cost' way.
Heck, I just had someone have a go at me because I 'ruined their' match because they couldn't find me after tunneling, camping and slugging with doctor for the 12 hooks. They got insulting because I bled out instead of giving them 12 hooks...
Too many people play this game with these kinds of approaches, be it killer or survivor. And THAT is what ruins the game
Poor balance and logic is what ruins this game , something SWF single-handedly breaks .
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@DragonMasterDarren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406722#Comment_2406722
custom games shouldn't be the only way you can play with friends mate, the devs added SWF because they want people to play with friends, if you are that upset over it, blame Discord and other 3rd party communication software over a system that was intended to just let buddies play with each other and nothing more
''custom games shouldn't be the only way you can play with friends ''
What more can you ask for , thats literally the best mode in the game . People just want to group-up and pub-stomp and ruin solo players experiences for both sides. SWF sucks. whether you're killer or survivor you're the stooge to them .
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@DragonMasterDarren said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2406541#Comment_2406541
That would be because it IS a insult to the people who just want to play with friends
then. go . play . custom . games . literally a mode designed for friends to play together . ######### is the hold-up ?
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@HaunterofShadows said:
This feels more like an insult to the people who just want to play with friends
so what , they ruin the game & thats not subjective .
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@KweenPlease said:
This post is very cringey and sad . . . someone is really projecting their own insecurities.
Not all SWF are selfish either. My group definitely isn't and my group has a mix of people from ones I know IRL to ones I met online and we talk all the time. I'm not special either so I know there are plenty of people in the same boat as me.
If you want people to play with, put yourself out there. There are other friendless, insecurity projecting survivors who blame everyone else for their lack of ability to play other than you. I promise. <3
and your response is excuses. go to custom games and stop ruining the game for solo players.
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@gilgamer said:
You know most swfs are 2-3 people most aren't full stacks and with each person more it becomes harder to find another. Also id day "ruin" is a bit of an overreaction to say the least. Maybe try getting friends.
go to custom games and stop ruining the game for people who play alone .
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@Jasix said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2398251#Comment_2398251
I don't run meta builds as survivor or killer and have been red rank over 4 years. I frequently run both with no perks/items/addons.
I find the challenge of red rank fun - way less camping/tunneling killers and less "toxic" survivors.
I track every match and can say with 100% confidence that my matches are composed of way more variety of killers than what you stated. Spirit and Blight are seen way less than most killers for me. My top 5 killers I have faced for the past 3 months: Nemesis, Bubba, Wraith, Nurse, and Pig.
So instead of attacking your exaggerations since it was your first post - I stated a fact. Once SBMM is active - rank will be irrelevant. I never said that would happen next month or even this year - but when it does - rank will be irrelevant.
good for you .
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@Jasix said:
Uhhh ok. Well lucky for you - rank will not matter at all in matchmaking once Skill Based Match Making goes live. Everyone will reset to rank 20 every month and rank will not matter at all - only your "skill" will be used when it comes to matchmaking.
I would play red rank ANY day rather than green or purple - when I watch people play in those ranks the amount of camping/tunneling is stupidly ridiculous.
''once Skill Based Match Making goes live''
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