Give killers ability to choose addons in chaos shuffle
Half of the roaster is unplayable without certain addons (billy, cenobite, blight without speed addons, wraith, gf, etc) and there are a lot of addons that just ruin your experience and make you want to dc the moment you see them on your hud (every meme addon and some other cases like ph addon that decreases your m2 width by 25%). Survivors get to choose item and everyone is running medkits because you can’t possibly get bad addons and in the worst case its 1 self heal with no downsides. Either make items random or allow killers to choose addons to compensate the necessity of gen perks to make the game longer than 5 minutes.
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That would negate the entire point of Chaos Shuffle if they did that. They shouldnt have brought back things like Iri Remote for Sadoko or other vast power changing addons. It was fine the way it was before.
If you want to disconnect because the chaotic randomizer game mode gave you random chaotic stuff instead of the strongest add-ons possible, I think you need to just stick to regular mode. You don't "need" those add-ons to win, especially in a mode where everything is randomized. You aren't at any worse of a disadvantage than survivors. Like, the most they get to pick that isn't for both sides is an item type, not even add-ons, rarity of the item, and there's only like 6, you get to choose between up to 43 powers (depending on the amount of killers you've bought). So again, if queueing up as a specific killer in the randomizer game mode is going to cause you to disconnect if it doesn't give you the strongest stuff and/or what feels best for you, either pick a different killer that doesn't have that criteria or play the regular queue.
Ehm yeah they are in a disadvantage. Survivors not only are allowed to bring every item and addons they want they also don't have any negative addons. Killers have a lot of addons that make the power worse or even useless.
Wraith has a addon that gives him a terror radius while cloaked which removes his stealth hit factor.
Trapper has a addon that make his traps do no damage
Sadiko has addons that remove and change how the condemned works.
Blight has a addon that makes his rushing slower and one that auto turns.
Nurse has two addons that turn her into a m1 killer with less or no blinks.
And that are just some of the addons that are in my head right now. Yeah the chance is low to get these addons but don't say "You aren't at any worse of a disadvantage"
And no, no mither is not a disadvantage, you leave no blood, make no sounds and can't get slugged.
No mither is an insane disadvantage, if I'm not playing trapper you will be out the game insanely quickly because nothing stops me from hitting you once 3 times and just tunneling you. Also even if you're able to loop for longer you will waste a lot of palettes so you'll make the game harder for the rest of the team. Oh also no blood is completely irrelevant because I still hear you, no mither doesn't make you quiet just 75% quieter, and also why would I slug a free tunnel I can get out in sometimes 2 minutes if the survivors are generous? xD
To even say something to the initial post:
I don't think it makes sense to be able to choose addons yourself because it would go against the point of everything being random. While I agree that it also doesn't make sense to let survivors choose their item, I'm also okay with it because they don't have any protection against tunneling or slugging - most people bring flashlights anyways.
No. Previous iterations of Chaos Shuffle allowed that, the end result was that sweaty people just used the best stuff outside of Perks.
If you really can only play Killer with the best Add Ons, you should stick to the regular queue.
What on earth do you think the mode Chaos Shuffle is for? If you want to pick what parts you want then the normal mode is right there. Unusable is extreme and wanting the Killer to have an advantage in a mode with random items and perks on the survivor side is ludicrous.
Have you not thought of seeing the No Mither player and thinking "Oh they got No Mither, I'll go easy on them" I did that today, went after someone else first, and then gave the No Mither player an extra chance after the chase by leaving them on the ground to recover. Later in the game I hooked her twice so all good.
P.S. No Mither is now 100% no grunts of pain..
It is? I actually even looked it up before writting that so the website was wrong too!! xD
Well my fault, but that makes sense now. I thought the person got no mither and iron will by chance and I forgot to look at the perks yesterday. So she was quiet because of no mither actually :D
Also no, I usually like to win and I surely won't let a person just do gens for free xD
No thank you. Even though i regularily get garbage or actively hindering addons in this mode, that is the exact spirit of the experience.
It's not about the Killer having an advantage, it's about the lack of fairness. If Survivors can pick their item then Killers should be able to pick their add-ons. A Med-kit / Beamer / Toolkit is still a useful item regardless of the add-ons it comes with but some Killer add-ons are actively detrimental.
It should be fully random for both sides or you preserve some choice and Survivors get to choose their items and Killers get to choose their add-ons, but it shouldn't be that Survivors get some choice in their build but Killers don't.
That sounds more like an issue with the add-ons themselves. If there are add-ons that are never or hardly ever run at all they should look into that, regardless of the game mode.
Agreed, but then I also enjoyed some of the meme add-on that they got rid of (like the Clown one that switched bottle colours). I think they help remind players that DBD's not meant to be taken super seriously. I guess it depends on what the player base want the game to be. But I will say this, beamer squads are loving this mode because Killers can't bring anything to combat them.
I'm still surprised that wanting both sides to have equally random load outs would be such a hot take. I thought that was the whole point of the mode, but I guess I was wrong about that...
I really don't get this community sometimes.
No, I like more randomness. I'd be totally fine with random items for survivors too, even though comparing them to add-ons when survivors are for the most part just cosmetic is a little wrong, it's closer to how the killer can choose what killer to play (which I by no means want to stop being a thing)
I've gotten meme addons as killer and true mastermind builds like the no mither/resurgence/second wind/overcome I got earlier today. Did it go that well? Not at all, but that's just how it is in the mode sometimes 😄