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Addon Dependent Killers

Blueberry Blueberry
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Which killers and addons do y’all feel are generally speaking “required” for them to play how you think they should at base kit and should have those built in? And why.

I’ll start.

Dredge. Haddies Calendar and Boat Key

Dredge even with both these addons cannot teleport fast enough for mid chase teleport plays against good survivors, much less the embarrassingly slow speed without them. Even though there are also other good addons Dredge has these are what make them fun to me. Without mindgame teleports mid chase they're boring. So while they have many other interesting addons I feel I can never actually get the chance to run them since these are perpetually auto locked for me.

Knight. Call to Arms and Map of the Realm

We're expected to play Knight with long range guard placements but it doesn't even function at a base level without using these. The rest of his addons are terrible, but even if they were good you couldn't afford to drop these to run them anyway.

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  • Sngfun Sngfun

    Bubba with chill + beast marks. His power is a joke without these.

    Myers with TOMBSTONE. Goes from f tier to A tier with a single addon, there is not a single killer who has such a big powerspike with an addon, but a the same time is dogshit without said addon.

  • OrangeBear OrangeBear

    Trickster's memento blades are a must have at the moment

  • Reinami Reinami

    @Blueberry said:

    Which killers and addons do y’all feel are generally speaking “required” for them to play how you think they should at base kit and should have those built in? And why.

    I’ll start.

    Dredge. Haddies Calendar and Boat Key

    Dredge even with both these addons cannot teleport fast enough for mid chase teleport plays against good survivors, much less the embarrassingly slow speed without them. Even though there are also other good addons Dredge has these are what make them fun to me. Without mindgame teleports mid chase they're boring. So while they have many other interesting addons I feel I can never actually get the chance to run them since these are perpetually auto locked for me.

    • Myers: Tomestone makes him A-S tier, without it he's one of the worst
    • Hag: Range addons (the new basekit changes might make it better but haven't played her yet
    • Doctor: Range addons (same as hag)
    • Bubba: Chil + Beast marks basically required
    • Freddy: Iri that starts everyone asleep required
    • Pig: Charge speed required
    • Legion: Duration+Movementspeed required
    • Plague: Iri required (because survivors never cleanse)
    • Deathslinger: Reload Required
    • Twins: Toy sword requried
    • Pinhead: Extra chains spawning when they break them with the environment required
    • Wesker: Egg required
    • Knight: Map required
    • Chucky: Vaulting thing required


    Those are all the ones where, yeah it isn't necessarily REQUIRED. But it feels really bad to not use these addons.

  • glitchboi glitchboi

    Unless you're running Coup de Grace, Soma Photo for Singularity. I've tried so many games as Singularity without this add-on to little success. Coup is his best perk if you're not running Soma Photo because you can insta TP then hyperlunge through a pallet.

    Also, Swift Hunt for Wraith. Trying to use his anti-loop without a single Swift Hunt add-on is a death wish that you might as well play hit & run Wraith. Swift Hunt is what allows you to play Wraith like a chase killer because of how slow Wraith is when uncloaking (I want the old speed boost back) and makes him 10 times more enjoyable to play as, while encouraging a playstyle that is more fun to go against.

  • North85 North85

    Trapper. The old boy needs all the help he can get.

  • Yharwick Yharwick

    Xeno and the star chart or E-Helmet, there's no reason to not always run one of them.

  • BlackRabies BlackRabies

    Knight: Map of the Realm and Call to Arms

    Use them or your gonna be handicapping yourself really hard.

  • fussy fussy

    Most obvious 5 for me:

    1. Knight. Map of the Realm and Dried Horsemeat. I saw many players mentioned Call to Arms instead of Horsemeat, and this is where i can't agree at all. Without Horsemeat guards do nearly to nothing and it's impossible to land a hit with Guard without Horsemeat. CtA just a nice addon to have, it's not something you can't use your power without. MotR for obvious reasons.
    2. Singularity. Family Photo. At least partially. 2% for 1 Slipstreamed survivor, 3% for 2, 4% for 3 and 5% for 4 survivors. Singularity with and without this addons are two different killers, simply as that.
    3. Legion. Mischief List. I rarely go into matches without this addon, because without it chain 4 hits in Frenzy literally impossible (without tablets ofc) against semi-good survivor. While i understand that chain 4 hits in Frenzy shouldn't be something crazy consistent, i believe +2 seconds is what he needs badly.
    4. Trapper. Bloody Coil. I just don't understand how the weakest ability in the game almost does not require any time to completely cancel it, and does not even punish it in any way. Should be basekit just to make Trapper D tier from F tier, and i will stand on that hill forever.
    5. Huntress. Shiny Pin. It's sad that good change was reverted because of enormous amount of crying, because high B tier killer can't be A tier killer somehow, but they can at least stand somewhere in between and give her Shiny Pin basekit.

    I agree with Dredge, it seems like he needs half of his addons basekit just to be good tbf.

    Bubba really depends on his speed or chili or both.

    Pig could have Last Will basekit, her current Ambush is only somehow okish with this addon (without downside). Additional movespeed while crouching too maybe.

    I would like to see whole Warden's Keys basekit for Deathslinger. But even more than this i want Prison Chain basekit for how useful it can be.

    100% Impaling Wire for Cenobite. He is awful without this addon.

  • Devil_hit11 Devil_hit11

    @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/408532/addon-dependent-killers

    • Myers: Tomestone makes him A-S tier, without it he's one of the worst
    • Hag: Range addons (the new basekit changes might make it better but haven't played her yet
    • Doctor: Range addons (same as hag)
    • Bubba: Chil + Beast marks basically required
    • Freddy: Iri that starts everyone asleep required
    • Pig: Charge speed required
    • Legion: Duration+Movementspeed required
    • Plague: Iri required (because survivors never cleanse)
    • Deathslinger: Reload Required
    • Twins: Toy sword requried
    • Pinhead: Extra chains spawning when they break them with the environment required
    • Wesker: Egg required
    • Knight: Map required
    • Chucky: Vaulting thing required

    Those are all the ones where, yeah it isn't necessarily REQUIRED. But it feels really bad to not use these addons.

    i like myer's one: Mori's required!. Myer's is finally S-tier in blood moon event. 300% lunge in tier 3. I am only playing myer's during this event. I can't believe i am outplayed god pallets.... GOD PALLETS. SHACK PALLETS!!!!! as m1. event base-kit please.

    Plague one is interesting. Otz says that iri seal is broken. I use it with plague because I feel a bit underwhelming without it. My reasoning is that I feel like plague's m/s when charging is too slow and rubbing oil doesn't give enough charge speed alongside her base infection being too slow. Like I wish she had Emetic potion+Infected emetic+Rubbing oil base-kit.

    Chucky in my opinion should have Power drill base-kit. His cooldown is too long when he hits.

    @Blueberry said:

    Which killers and addons do y’all feel are generally speaking “required” for them to play how you think they should at base kit and should have those built in? And why.

    I’ll start.

    Dredge. Haddies Calendar and Boat Key

    Dredge even with both these addons cannot teleport fast enough for mid chase teleport plays against good survivors, much less the embarrassingly slow speed without them. Even though there are also other good addons Dredge has these are what make them fun to me. Without mindgame teleports mid chase they're boring. So while they have many other interesting addons I feel I can never actually get the chance to run them since these are perpetually auto locked for me.

    Singularity with Soma family photo+Kids ball glove.

    You lose distance for using overclock. Kids ball glove takes away the need to infect two survivors.

  • Snowbawlzzz Snowbawlzzz

    When was the last time you saw a Myers that wasn't running Tombstone or scratched mirror? He sucks so bad default that you have to use his wacky stuff.

  • HexHuntressThighs HexHuntressThighs

    Huntress’s Shiny Pin is an absolute must run. It has one of the highest pick rates by far for a reason. We were so close to having a respectable movement speed on her.

  • RFSa09 RFSa09

    Trapper, Michael, doctor, freddy, bubba, pig, legion, demogorgon, blight (yes, blight is a bit addon dependent to have an actual anti loop), twins, trickster, nemesis, sadako, knight, singularity are all addon dependent, they need them to really be good, or at least decent

  • Archol123 Archol123

    @Reinami said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/408532/addon-dependent-killers

    • Myers: Tomestone makes him A-S tier, without it he's one of the worst
    • Hag: Range addons (the new basekit changes might make it better but haven't played her yet
    • Doctor: Range addons (same as hag)
    • Bubba: Chil + Beast marks basically required
    • Freddy: Iri that starts everyone asleep required
    • Pig: Charge speed required
    • Legion: Duration+Movementspeed required
    • Plague: Iri required (because survivors never cleanse)
    • Deathslinger: Reload Required
    • Twins: Toy sword requried
    • Pinhead: Extra chains spawning when they break them with the environment required
    • Wesker: Egg required
    • Knight: Map required
    • Chucky: Vaulting thing required

    Those are all the ones where, yeah it isn't necessarily REQUIRED. But it feels really bad to not use these addons.

    For Legion, I saw a video about his addons some time ago, where someone did the math on the speed increase per frenzy hit addon... And apparently unless you run never sleep pills the brown addon that increases your lunge is better than that addon. I did not check if the math done was correct, but the explanation seemed reasonable.

  • MrRetsej MrRetsej

    Weighing on this for the killers I regularly play.

    • Dredge: Haddie's Calender. Malthinker's Skull -- Nightfall is one of his strongest features, and without the Skull, it feels like you might get two per match tops. With the Skulll plus Sloppy and some hit and run, you can actually use the other half of his power.
    • Wraith: Swift Hunt, at least the green --- Without it, well, good luck.
    • Myers: J. Myers Memorial -- Unless I'm running one of the mirrors, this just makes his stalking feel worthwhile. Also, why isn't he more effective stalking from range than up close? Doing it from a distance would be more lore accurate.
    • Hag: Dried Cicada. Bloodied Mud post the latest update.
    • Freddy: Red Paint Brush.
    • Legion: Mischief List
    • Ghost Face: "Philly", Walleye's Matchbook. Why aren't these basekit?
    • Deathslinger: Warden's Keys
    • Executioner: Wax Doll, Burning Man Painting -- Everything else is a waste to run
    • Trickster: Memento Blades, Caged Heart Shoes
    • Knight: Map of the Realm
    • Skull Merchant: Adaptive Lighting, Ultrasonic Speaker
    • Singularity: Soma Family Photo
    • Xenomorph: Crew Headset, Emergency Helmet
    • Unknown: Blurry Photo
  • Yippiekiyah Yippiekiyah

    Add-ons i run every single time

    Knight- Map Of The Realm

    Myers- J Myers Memorial

    Doctor- Range (The basekit buff wasn't large enough to change this)

    Xenomorph- Helmet and Lamberts Map

    Ghost Face- Walleye's Matchbook

    Bubba- Award Winning Chilli

    Twins-Toy Sword

  • E5150 E5150

    I don't care much about most add-ons, but i can't for the life of me play:

    Xeno without Helmet/Star map

    Knight without Map of the Realm

    Dredge without Calendar

    Bubba without chilli

    Anything else i can work with, but these are non-negotiable, especially Xeno.

  • Dwight_Fairfield Dwight_Fairfield

    Mikey main here. Anyone who said J Myers memorial for him is correct. That 25% extra stalking speed is so nice its hard to imagine life without it. Really helps get your tier 3 ready to pop.

  • NerfDHalready NerfDHalready

    i'll just repeat what most people already pointed out: haddie's calendar, toy sword, map of the realm, uncloak speed for wraith, chili, charge speed for pig if you're ever planning to use her ambush, mischief list, range for pphead, at least one of the turret add ons for xeno, soma photo and i guess skull merchant's add on that reduces survivors' immunity to scans but who cares.

  • JamJam JamJam

    @Blueberry said:

    Which killers and addons do y’all feel are generally speaking “required” for them to play how you think they should at base kit and should have those built in? And why.

    I’ll start.

    Dredge. Haddies Calendar and Boat Key

    Dredge even with both these addons cannot teleport fast enough for mid chase teleport plays against good survivors, much less the embarrassingly slow speed without them. Even though there are also other good addons Dredge has these are what make them fun to me. Without mindgame teleports mid chase they're boring. So while they have many other interesting addons I feel I can never actually get the chance to run them since these are perpetually auto locked for me.

    Knight. Call to Arms and Map of the Realm

    We're expected to play Knight with long range guard placements but it doesn't even function at a base level without using these. The rest of his addons are terrible, but even if they were good you couldn't afford to drop these to run them anyway.

    Dredge with calendar, it just feels so slow clunky to teleport around without it especially since going around and smacking locks doesn't feel great to do when you're always pressed on time as a killer.

  • Huge_Bush Huge_Bush

    @fussy said:

    Most obvious 5 for me:

    1. Knight. Map of the Realm and Dried Horsemeat. I saw many players mentioned Call to Arms instead of Horsemeat, and this is where i can't agree at all. Without Horsemeat guards do nearly to nothing and it's impossible to land a hit with Guard without Horsemeat. CtA just a nice addon to have, it's not something you can't use your power without. MotR for obvious reasons.
    2. Singularity. Family Photo. At least partially. 2% for 1 Slipstreamed survivor, 3% for 2, 4% for 3 and 5% for 4 survivors. Singularity with and without this addons are two different killers, simply as that.
    3. Legion. Mischief List. I rarely go into matches without this addon, because without it chain 4 hits in Frenzy literally impossible (without tablets ofc) against semi-good survivor. While i understand that chain 4 hits in Frenzy shouldn't be something crazy consistent, i believe +2 seconds is what he needs badly.
    4. Trapper. Bloody Coil. I just don't understand how the weakest ability in the game almost does not require any time to completely cancel it, and does not even punish it in any way. Should be basekit just to make Trapper D tier from F tier, and i will stand on that hill forever.
    5. Huntress. Shiny Pin. It's sad that good change was reverted because of enormous amount of crying, because high B tier killer can't be A tier killer somehow, but they can at least stand somewhere in between and give her Shiny Pin basekit.

    I agree with Dredge, it seems like he needs half of his addons basekit just to be good tbf.

    Bubba really depends on his speed or chili or both.

    Pig could have Last Will basekit, her current Ambush is only somehow okish with this addon (without downside). Additional movespeed while crouching too maybe.

    I would like to see whole Warden's Keys basekit for Deathslinger. But even more than this i want Prison Chain basekit for how useful it can be.

    100% Impaling Wire for Cenobite. He is awful without this addon.

    Making Bloody Coil base-kit would make him upper B tier. While I like the idea, I’d prefer the other iridescent as base-kit.

  • fussy fussy

    @Huge_Bush said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3679912#Comment_3679912

    Making Bloody Coil base-kit would make him upper B tier. While I like the idea, I’d prefer the other iridescent as base-kit.

    Can't agree with this, not even close. Maybe C tier at best. In SWF you can ignore this addon completely and allow one survivor to deal with all traps. In solo it will be just games against less annoying Legion. Trapper with both Iri maybe B tier, but not with Bloody Coil only.

  • Huge_Bush Huge_Bush

    @fussy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3681458#Comment_3681458

    Can't agree with this, not even close. Maybe C tier at best. In SWF you can ignore this addon completely and allow one survivor to deal with all traps. In solo it will be just games against less annoying Legion. Trapper with both Iri maybe B tier, but not with Bloody Coil only.

    That’s fine. We can agree to disagree.

  • fussy fussy

    @Huge_Bush said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3681464#Comment_3681464

    That’s fine. We can agree to disagree.

    But i can say two years ago i also was on a side with making Iri Stone basekit. Later i changed my mind, because less time to make your power less cost to have at least some ability again is good, but not when its complete cancellation is so free.

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