BBQ Rework
I see Barbeque and Chilli as a pretty powerful perk. I know that there is counterplay to it but I frei like in most Matches with Billy, Spirit or Nurse that run the perk I am the only one using lockers which results in me constantly running back to the locker because my teammates fall like flys.
So i suggest a reasonable change to the perk: After hooking a survivor you only see the auras of survivors that have not been hooked in this match yet.
this change does not affect the extra BP for the Killer and even makes it slightly easier for them to get the requirements.
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There is gens you can hide behind very easily. Or get close to the killer when he hooks a survivor. Distortion. Juking the killer with scratch marks. You can even show your aura to take the heat off your injured friends. So there's plenty of counterplay beyond running to a locker every hooking.
And against all the killers you just mentioned, they have limited vision when using their power. Assuming you hid behind a gen, Nurse would have to be looking specifically at your gen and teleport at an angle to see you, Billy can't turn his camera well when sprinting, and Spirit can't even see auras when phase walking.
BBQ right now has too much counterplay to justify only showing unhooked survivors auras. Its in a good spot anyway, so leave it alone and adapt to it by not using lockers.
No. There are more than enough counters already.
BBQ is made with counterplay ingrained - if people fail to capitalize on it, they're failing to learn from their mistakes. No changes needed.
Thanks for listing every counter again, but I know them. The biggest problem is: Not everyone knows/uses them and besides the locker they are not very reliable. Getting near enough is not possible and if you missjudge it you are in a very bad spot. Generators are not as reliable as it is made out often, also there are gens wehre you cant hide at all. And juking with the Killers i mentioned is also very risky.
It wouldnt be that much of nerf anyway and it would help you get all your hooks, so that there is not the last survivor that was never hooked that gets away through the hatch.
maybe slightly increase the reveal with this change
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Exactly, just because some survivors are not utilizing the counters already built in does not mean it needs further nerfing
Nope, BBQ does not need a nerf. It's already not great in anything other than BPs.
No no no. BBQ has too many counters to get a nerf. It seems you are new so here is the list:
1) Use the Distortion perk
2) Use lockers
3) Hide behind gens
4) When the killer downS a survivor just stay within the 40 meter range
5) Count to 5 and then change direction
6) And the last but not least GIT GUD
7) Run one way, after 5 seconds run another.
Good survivor is different from a bad one not only in how well they can loop a killer.
It is the responsibility of the COMMUNITY to inform people about counterplay, you can take any more proposed BBQ nerfs and shove them in some imaginative places.
Sure, because people don't know how to counter, we need to spoon-fed them by nerfing a perk. Seems legit.
*nerf
The Survivors you are encountering just need to get good. People have already listed the counters here. We shouldn’t nerf anything because of incompetent players.
Sure, sure keep telling yourself that.
If you all think it's useless for anything but BPs, then it's fine to nerf the aura reading, right?
8) Sole Survivor.
Doesn't come up often but I just wanted to be complete
> Not everyone knows/uses them.
That's like saying clown needs a nerf because not everyone knows to drop the pallet early.
There is no reason to make any changes good or bad to BBQ. It works as intended and has the right amount of counter play.
The aura reading isn't useless, but a lot of people know how to counter it. If you can't, then that's on you, not the perk.
It isn't hard to play around BBQ.